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Cops train to kill: Salinas police Chief says, "We do not train to shoot people in the leg"
by paz
Saturday May 24th, 2014 10:08 AM
A reporter asked Chief of Salinas police why the officers didn't just shoot Mejia (Salinas Man Shot by Salinas Murdering Police) in the leg to stop him.

"When we apply force, the force is designed to eliminate a threat. There is no guarantee that a single bullet is going to do that. We do not train to shoot people in the leg. Police are trained to shoot until that threat is eliminated,"
A reporter asked why the officers didn't just shoot Mejia (Salinas Man Shot by Salinas Murdering Police) in the leg to stop him.

"When we apply force, the force is designed to eliminate a threat. There is no guarantee that a single bullet is going to do that. We do not train to shoot people in the leg. Police are trained to shoot until that threat is eliminated," the chief said. Since when? and why doesn't the community know about this type of training. What about due process, and since when did cops become the Judge, remember your a chief of police not a judge.

Now you know how police train to kill the threat not just stop it now. Why is the supreme court allowing this type of mentality in police academies, and not doing anything about it?

No where in this video do you see the man being arrested lunge at police, like what the chief of police was saying. Chief McMillin say's "officers repeatedly tried to get Mejia to drop the shears, and said they were fearful he would enter a nearby bakery and hurt someone there. Because the incident took place about noon, there were also many pedestrians potentially in harm's way, he said." So using deadly force by shooting him protects civilians by police, and in broad day light in front of kids? Now both officers have been placed on paid administrative leave while the incident is investigated? WTF they get vacation for murdering someone point blank.

Police said they opened fire seconds after the man turned around to face them and lunged toward officers with the shears. I do not see him lunge at them, and instead we see the Murdering officers shoot at point blank..?

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2014/05/21/18756054.php#18756083


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by meaningless standard
Saturday May 24th, 2014 12:31 PM
cops kill and kill and get away with it. DA's view everything as reasonable and justified. cops pretty much have to shoot somebody in the back on multiple cameras to be prosecuted for anything (Mehserle)

- his hands were at his waistband, so I thought he was going for a gun (where do our hands naturally lay??)

- he lunged at me, he made aggressive gestures, he said mean things to me

- I was afraid for my life because he had [fill in the blank] in his hands

on and on and on. it's a familiar and tragic story of cops killing unarmed people

by require
Saturday May 24th, 2014 1:43 PM
santa barbara incident is in line with casual american violence. american war culture is it. police no different than mass killers.
An excellent book: Police Misconduct: Law and Litigation by Avery, Blum, & Rudovsky.

It is expensive but can be read for free in law libraries. I do not recall it mentioning abuse of lethal force but (if I recall correctly) it does touch on LEO overreactions to 'harsh language'.
by ntuit
Monday May 26th, 2014 5:56 PM
It has become obvious over the years that police shoot to kill even when they could easily disable someone by shooting in the leg. To me, this says murder because if I can keep from killing someone and disable them - then I have acted with prudence.


Police training is out of control and not under the public's control. How they live with themselves? I do not know but it is a psychopathic mentality.
by read some
Tuesday May 27th, 2014 9:24 AM
This is how ALL cops are trained everywhere. Why? Because while shooting someone in the leg seems like a rational way to stop someone, it often doesn't work out that way. People in escalated situations have enormous amounts of adrenaline and are still quite capable of launching an attack even with a bullet in their leg. Think PCP users. People watch too much Hollywood stuff with people "winging" their targets to bring them down well-targeted shots. Uh uh, that's fantasy, guns blow holes in people. Big holes. That's what they do.

We can argue about whether or not a person is a threat to a cop in individual instances. THAT is legitimate line of inquiry. But once a cop pulls his gun, they are ready to shoot to stop the threat. If that threat can be ended by a shot to the head or the upper body, that is where the target will be. GOOD cops are able to negotiate and de-escalate a situation so they never have to pull their gun. But once that gun is out, it's on the attacker to drop their weapon and get their hands up, as cops want to go home and see their families that night just like anyone else. They are not going to take a chance that a perp is going to launch an attack after being shot in the leg or arm or something.
by G
Tuesday May 27th, 2014 10:01 AM
"But once that gun is out, it's on the attacker to drop their weapon and get their hands up, as cops want to go home and see their families that night just like anyone else."

So, using that line of argument, once LEO draws a weapon it's on the 'perp' to shoot to kill, or be killed?

When LEO murder people, including those that are handcuffed and face down, there is little to no recourse. That is bad for society, because people will only put up with so much before they overthrow unjust tyranny by any means necessary.

When LEO murder people they should be investigated, prosecuted, and incarcerated, just like anyone else.
by G
Tuesday May 27th, 2014 1:51 PM
People have been murdered by LEO, while in custody, in hand cuffs, face down. People have been murdered by LEO, by taser. People have been murdered by LEO, by hand, while pleading for mercy. Something you seem to be unconcerned about.

When you say they should surrender, you are ignoring the FACT that they may be murdered, on a whim, by LEO. Something you seem to be unconcerned about.

By trying to excuse the apparent policy of Salinas LEO (shoot to kill), you ignore the FACT that they may be murdered, on a whim. Something you seem to be unconcerned about.

Yet you seem VERY concerned about the idea of self defense. Unless LEO are allegedly doing it, which you argue is a must, a given. As a fan of LEO, your opinion is protected, by abuse of lethal force. Perhaps that is why you show such a lack of concern when it comes to travesties of justice. Perhaps that is why your view is a danger to peace, and to justice.
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by ograheem
Wednesday Jul 9th, 2014 8:25 PM
The most racist creatures on this planet is. The insecure police most are on drugs, homosexuals.rapist,and child molesters they use guns on ,children pregnant mothers and the disabled.they, murder an lie to cover it up they are no more than hired murderers