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Germany Convenes International Meeting to Discuss Scientology Threat

by Dr. Lilly von Marcab
Germany’s Department of Interior Affairs this week convened a three hour seminar on Scientology.  The meeting, called "This is Scientology! Reports from the USA," was held in Hamburg. Unlike the situation in the United States, where it has "religion" status, Scientology in Germany is considered to be a "Threat to Democracy," ranked right alongside "Islamic extremism" and "Racist skinheads."
The program was organized by Ursula Caberta, who heads the Scientology Task Force of the Hamburg Interior Authority. Caberta invited a number of prominent American Scientology critics to the forum, including Hollywood actor Jason Beghe, who recently left the cult after 14 years; Marc Headley, who defected a couple of years ago, and who used to work closely with cult leader David Miscavige; Larry Brennan, a former high-ranking Scientologist who has personal knowledge of the process of "religious cloaking" done by the Scientology cult, for the express purpose of obtaining tax-exempt "religion" status; and Graham Berry, a heroic attorney who has fought the cult for more than 20 years. Also in attendance were several Anonymous members from the USA, as well as from German and other European countries; dignitaries from other countries; and, importantly, a representative from the US Consulate in Hamburg.

Scientology's main offices in Hollywood and Clearwater dispatched a delegation of their most vicious lawyers and PR guys. Notably, these included Tommy Davis, who was seen flipping out with rage as he bull-baited BBC reporter John Sweeney in the 2007 program "Scientology and Me"; and attorney Kendrick Moxon, one of the most vile human beings alive.

I am going to quote at length the reports from several people who were there, as they eloquently describe the meeting and the events leading up to it. I will annotate where needed in [brackets].

The event came off flawlessly and the presence from Anonymous was impressive. All of us did several TV interviews and got the word out to as many stations both in EU and US in the time that we had. The government officials that we were able to talk to one on one were amazing and Europe is going to see a huge surge of activity regarding investigating Scientology across the boards. The US delegation of Scilons [Scientologists] that traveled to Germany was dealt a bonanza of epic fail. Not only were they not allowed to disrupt the meeting in any way, because they came so late and did nothing to get on the guest list until the day before, they were denied access to the meeting and not allowed to even come to the podium. There were only enough seats up front for who was scheduled to speak.

They were busy little bees behind the scenes though.
  1. All of the speakers flying in from the US were given black PR flyers [saying nasty things about Scientology's critics] at US airports. OSA [Scientology's Office of Special Affairs, its spy unit] being the advanced organization that they are gave us flyers in German! This has a huge effect on us as we do not speak German so they were essentially useless and caused no effect on us whatsoever.
  2. Private investigators were hired in the US and paid to spy on us on the way here and while in Hamburg. (Note to OSA for Future PI’s: tell these fuckers to keep their damn distance. I mean one of them sat in front of us on the plane over here and Jason and I must have woken the guy up 75 times crawling over him to get up. I kicked his chair at least 20 times during the flight and he said not a word. The other one stood out like a sore thumb and hung out so close to me in the airport I though he might be attracted to me. My gaydar was on red alert. Turns out he was a Capricorn and it would have never worked out. Oh yeah, and I am married with two kids already.) These PI’s were indentified and spotted in the US, on the plane and when they showed up at our hotel, the gig was up. We shut their asses down. We even tried to talk to one of them at the hotel and he nearly swallowed his frigging tongue. We got a big kick out of that.
  3. Attempts by PI’s to get into our rooms were thwarted.
  4. Attempts by PI’s to contact us through other means were thwarted.
OSA did not plan on us having multiple secret service personnel with us at all times. Seems they did not do much homework or planning for this wasted trip over here. Note to OSA: tell your boys that when they get back to LA, we can meet up for coffee in Santa Monica. Yeah, that’s right, we did our own little homework and know where your boys live - bitches. Next time tell them if they are going to get so close, don’t let their baggage tags with their names on them show so clearly! Also, the blonde PI dude needs to spend some of his hard earned scilon cash for some new luggage. You can’t be an international PI running around with a friggin’ school kid’s back pack from Kmart. I do not think that OSA knew they were going to have police escorts while here either. They had their own police full time (for their protection) that were talking to our police and so forth. It was like playing spy vs. spy, except for OSA did not have any spies.

Moxon did manage to show up for a few minutes when we were on a small break and Jason Beghe bitch slapped his ass all over the place. Moxon could do nothing but walk away with his tiny junk up his trunk.

We met up at the main station, Scilons were already there with cameras and cell phones, trying to intimidate us. Irishfags were there, Londonfags were there and a lot of fags from all over Germany. [The suffix "-fags" is the current slang, neutral in tone, for "person from..." or "person who is/does..." etc.]. We used the subway and were followed by OSA in the coach behind us, we went further by foot to the event ... Police met up with us and warned us to keep our flyers and flags down because we could be sued. They ensured us police would be on our side, and we should not give the scilons any possibility to hit us. We went further and saw that a whole bunch of scilons were there, a lot of high ranking German scilons, some we already met at the protests, some we met the CCHR [Scientology's main anti-psychiatry front group] exhibits, also Sabine Weber [head of Scientology in Germany], and the international Scilon elite like Moxon....

The first thing we heard was that the Scilons tried to stop the event until the last hour, and when this didn't work out, they tried to get Tommy Davis in... which failed miserably. Quote "If you discuss the dangers of illegal drugs, you do not invite the drug dealer to speak on stage." Then there were good speeches, and Anonymous had a professional camera team there from the Netherlands ... so expect the speeches in good quality on the tubes soon... These speeches were just EPIC. Lots of European government officials were there, local newspapers and the national tv. So it was WIN. 

Inside we found Sabine (apparently the top Scifag in Germany) on her mobile phone looking like someone had eaten her cat. Also present was Toxon himself who looked like someone had shat in his cornflakes.A procession of masked Anons then made their way to the event to be confronted outside by the Scifag [Scientologist] protest. They looked dour, to say the least, and never made any noise. Our protests are definitely much more fun. They did take the brave step of getting two six-year-old-looking kids to give us black PR. Was very humourous when one tried to bullbait myself and one of the Britfags [Britons]. That didn't work too well given that we hadn't a word of German between us and didn't know what he was saying.

The Scientologists in the morning of the event were outside with their police registered event (This is normal under German law). They had their, made by the local printer, signboards which were by some of them also a refuge, all you could see behind the signs was the lower part of the body. There were about ten demonstrators, and half in their 50 - 60's. I didn't recognize anyone only Sabine Weber. They started again in the afternoon and before the event. There flyer was the usual mixture of information and disinformation which reinforced the presence to the public, that no one really knows if Scientology is a scam or not, including the OSA. One mistake they made was to represent a swastika on their flyer. This is strongly forbidden here in Germany, I wonder why the police didn't notice and confiscate it?

Mrs Caberta had invited a Scientology representative to present their point of view, but nobody turned up. Everyone was filtered before entering the hall and there were subsequently only guests that had a genuine interest that came in. At the back of the room were perhaps 8 translators in their individual cubicles, with enough translations receivers for everybody.

Larry Brenner started everything off with a good speaker presence, and lots of examples. i.e."That Hubbard over the two year period of the "Religious Cloaking" gave the orders personally, the whole time, instructing the new religious use of Scientology". The impression from all the speakers was what they had to say, didn't include the normal Scientology misinformation, their information originated from personal experience, and elaborated all the Scientology mysteries that occur when one mixes opinion and fact together. To me it all seemed credible, it explained a feasible reality, a genuine attempt to distinguish fact from fiction. Each speaker spoke from their personal and factual experience. They had really no motive, to lie or exaggerate or make a religious attack. Here was a audience, a need to inform oneself, of what Scientology really is, and how or if it fits into the German democracy. The last speaker, lawyer Graham Berry really closed many of the legal ambiguities....

The next day, and in the days to follow, Anonymous conducted raids (our word for protests) on Scientology offices in Hamburg and in cities all over the world. Won't you join us for the next big raid, on Saturday, 13 September, 11 am local time, in cities everywhere?


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§Anonymous arrives on the scene in Hamburg
by Dr. Lilly von Marcab
§The audience
by Dr. Lilly von Marcab
§Scientology children hanging out "black PR"
by Dr. Lilly von Marcab
§After the meeting
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§Anonymous, with Sabine Weber, head of Scientology in Germany
by Dr. Lilly von Marcab
Anonymous, with Sabine Weber, head of Scientology in Germany Poor Sabine doesn't look very happy. Maybe she should leave the cult.
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by Dr. Lilly von Marcab
by Tinky Winky
All I see here are a bunch of obnoxious kids in masks harassing innocent people over their religious beliefs, and then ridiculing them for not taking kindly to being harassed by placing "BAWWW!" captions in their mouths. This has gone past mere activism and has entered the realm of actual sadism.
by Anonomalous
As a Scientologist, it is natural that you are not happy about this. Please consider:

If Scientology worked as well as the Church of Scientology claims, what would the church be like?

If Scientology worked, the citizens of Clearwater, Florida, would, by now, be extremely happy to have "Flag, the Mecca of Scientology" in their fair city. After all, the vast benefits and good community work would have won them over completely. But, excluding Scientologists themselves, the people of Clearwater are still very upset with how the church "snuck" into town and would be very pleased if the church just snuck right back out.

If Scientology worked, their superior public-relations technology would ensure that the public image of the Church of Scientology was overwhelmingly positive, all over the world.

If Scientology worked, the church would never be embarrassed when their videos are leaked (and found to contain bogus claims by bogus "officials").

If Scientology worked, their powerful OT-8s would make everything go right, not only for Scientology but for the whole world. They are, after all, cause over life, form, matter, energy, space and time ... aren't they?

If Scientology worked, there would be no accusations of abuse, crimes or fraud. Their superior technology would quickly clear up everyone's difficulties, and would effectively "shatter" any suppression so that there would be no victims and no enemies.

If Scientology worked, there would be world-wide acclaim at the Church's effective solutions in disaster areas, war zones and poverty regions. The demand for Scientology solutions would be overwhelming. People outside of Scientology would actually be aware of these "solutions".

If Scientology worked, the huge news announced in the big Scientology events would actually be true and would be reported by regular news sources outside of the events.

If Scientology worked, no one would ever want to leave the church. All promises would have been kept, all promised benefits would have been true and the number of Scientologists, world-wide, really would be in the tens of millions (instead of the actual figure of less than 50,000 and falling).

If Scientology worked, the Church would not be desperately hammering the few remaining Scientologists for money, more money and even more money.

If Scientology worked, all the top executives of the Church would still be there, on post, instead of only David Miscavige.

If Scientology worked, they would not have to lock disaffected staff up in pseudo-prison camps to keep them from leaving and telling their stories.

If Scientology worked, I wouldn't be writing this post.
by tengah tengah
Obviously, you're free to believe what you like (including that Anonymous is a dying movement -- LOL!). But if you are an ordinary "public" Scientologist, your Scientology is doing (and has been doing) many very bad things that you may know nothing about. That's giving you the benefit of the doubt. Hundreds of ex-Scientologists, many at high OT levels, with very consistent stories of what's going on?

Are you getting your money's worth out of Scientology?

You are told "Only believe Scientologists. Don't believe anyone else." Whatever happened to critical thinking abilities? Use it or lose it. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.


The secret most un-exposed about Scientology is that is it an “applied physiological philosophy” rather than an “applied religious philosophy”. All Scientology courses, all auditing processes, and all the management and professional courses are based on physiological phenomenas, psychophysiology, emotions, human behavior patterns etc., that are our birth right and used in Scientology as their own discoveries. Even their PTS-SP data is based upon how a “Symptom” re-stimulation is brought out by physiological reactions of the mind affecting the body when under stress. They blame innocent human beings called by them “suppressive persons” for bringing out a symptom that was there to warn you of hidden real illnesses caused by non-suppressive sources such as parasites, chemicals, poisons, toxins, viruses and bacteria. The data on PTS-SP is twisted by them to blame innocent people in order to keep them in line.

The only way to fight them is to expose to the world--how Scientology has used physiological phenomenas as the basis for a false religion. How it has harmed families by claiming that innocent mothers and fathers are SPs -- when they lied about symptom re-stimulations to the world.

No where in Scientology will you find courses or services on any bible, there is no study or belief in heaven, hell, saints, angels, the devil, or even God himself. They do not study religion or even believe in religions. They do not share common values with any other religion. Their goal is to eliminate all other religions.

The E-meter reads your physiological reactions, the Ronbots never calls it that—they call it the “CHARGE” or the “MASS” or “ENGRAMS” OR “MENTAL IMAGE PICTURES” that you have in your brain—all meant to distract you from the truth.

Know this fact --- There is a law of Nature or law of God called “Physiological Reactions” that is the true secret behind Scientology’s Dianectic study technology.

AUDITING ERASES AND LESSONS YOUR PHYSIOLOGICAL REACTIONS!!! Once they are gone – your symptoms can’t be re-stimulated by stress or arguments. This is NOT a good thing, because ALL doctors depend on symptoms to guide them in treating you! This is why they prohibit you from seeing the doctors of your choice!!! Understand now how the scam works? Now when you argue with your mother and don’t get sick – you think she was the cause of all your illnesses.

If you were audited a hundred times over and over again (repetitive auditing) for a word that you were ordered to never clear or understand, and then made to read a page that contained that word—it would never again read on the Emeter or cause a physiological reaction.
Both Psychiatry and Scientology treats the symptoms of the mind and not the real causes of mental illnesses, one with drugs and one with erasing physiological reactions called Engrams or mental image pictures! Which one is worst? Drugs you can stop, but the other is irreversible and also a dangerous and deadly scam.

With the knowledge contained here, psychiatry will defeat $cientology easily.

LRH discovered that when you passed a misunderstood word—you manifested many reactions of various types: Yawning, sleepiness, not there feeling, dizziness, blurry eyes, nervousness and dozens more.

Being the liar that he was, he claimed that physiological reactions which he now calls “Dianetics” was “‘his” invention and not a law of God; he hid the fact that it is our human inheritance since time began.

Granted that his power of obnosis (observation) was the best in the world, his crime against humanity was to make a “religion” based upon the falsehood, that it was his very own invention or creation and not a law of God belonging to all Humanity as their lawful right.

For proof that the Cult has lied to you: -- Google “L. Ron Hubbard and Physiological Reactions” or visit their own Godless websites: or

LRH used God’s Natural laws to make slaves of mankind!

“So long as a physiological phenomenon remains the knowledge of a few and is denied to the many it can be utilized to control the many.” LRH (from Journal of Scientology Issue 4-G from Oct. 1952)

“This universe has long been looking for new ways to make slaves. Well, we've got some new ways to make slaves here.” LRH (from PDC tape lecture #20 “Formative State of Scientology, Definition of Logic”, given on 6 Dec 52)

"All men shall be my slaves! LRH

All women shall submit to my charms! LRH

All mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!" [L. Ron Hubbard, "Affirmations", late 1940s] Affirmations, exhibits 500-4D, E, F & G. See Church of Scientology v Armstrong, transcript volume 11, p.1886.

"Somebody some day will say 'this is illegal'.
By then be sure the orgs say what is legal or not."
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 4 January 1966

"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM”. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them." - L. Ron Hubbard, "Off the Time Track," lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418

" not a religion." - L. Ron Hubbard, CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY, 1954, p. 251
L. Ron Hubbard’s religion before he discovered physiological reactions was “Satanism”.
He wanted to invent a new religion masked as being good, but in fact was totally evil so that he could take his place on the "Throne of the Beast," which he firmly believed himself to be the rightful heir. Being an evil Satanist he wanted to destroy all other religions and have Scientology as the only religion left on Earth. He wanted to be the RULER of the NEW WORLD ORDER and sit on the Throne of the Beast.

All living beings have physiological (The functions and activities of life or of living matter such as the organic processes of organs, tissues, or cells) phenomenas (observable reactions known through the senses rather than by thought or intuition), or physical manifestations (made evident by showing or displaying) or physical reactions, that we see or feel as symptoms, and they are external and/or internal or visible signs or warnings given to us, by our creator to help us survive, help us increase our potential, our knowledge and our health.
All life on Earth has these cause and effect reactions called physiological phenomenas. All living beings whether they are plant, insect, retile or animal or human could not live without these reactions. They influence the body’s and the mind’s reactions to any form of stimuli, and have an influence on every cell of the body and mind.
[Noun. Physiological reaction – Is an automatic instinctive unlearned reaction to a stimulus.]
[Examples of physiological reactions: inborn reflex, innate reflex, instinctive reflex, reflex response, unconditioned reflex, accommodation reflex, Babinski reflex, belching, headache, migraines, swelling, sweating, erections, blinking, blushing, burping, defecation reflex, disgorgement, involuntary eye blinking, farting, skin flush, gag reflex, goose bump, goose pimple, gooseflesh, involuntary gulping, involuntary hiccup, knee-jerk reflex, light reflex, puking, papillary reflex, rectal reflex, regurgitation, shaking, shiver, shock, sneezing, startle, stretch reflex, suckling reflex, trembling, upset stomach, vomiting, involuntary winking, yawn, yawning -- plus hundreds more.]
Ron studied Physiological reactions more than most scientists and applied it to invent a new Religion.
He did not invent but copied the laws of nature and scammed the whole world into thinking that he alone discovered these reactions and no one else did. What he did do - was noticed the reactions of students and from this scam invented Dianetics “study tech”.
Examples of Physiological reactions of the body and mind when reading:
Falling asleep while reading - yawning, confusion, feeling blank, feeling anxious, not there feeling, tearing eyes, eyes going out of focus, dizziness, reeling, rebelliousness, headaches, skipping words, feeling nauseous, fidgeting, jumpy while reading, can’t stay still, mispronouncing words, feeling as if you are squashed, feeling as if you are over-whelmed, twitching, can’t apply what you are reading, can’t understand what you are reading, etc. are all due to physiological reactions when you read misunderstood words or misunderstood definitions.
The Cult’s method of healing called “Touch Assist” is nothing more than erasing the physiological reactions of PAIN. Physiological reactions are the clues from the law of God called “The Law of Cause and Effect”; for every action there is a reaction. A complete understand of these two laws of God can be used to learn to self-heal.
To understand the sinful secrets of your enemy –is to know exactly where to hurt him.
Scientology’s copyrighted files on based upon the laws of Nature and laws of God; they are in violation of copyrights and patent rights. Therefore, the contents or subjects can be used by anyone and can be talked about without fear of any lawsuit.
Everything you do produces a reaction in your body and mind. Every time you read, eat, sleep, rest, run, etc. produces a reaction.
To tell your mother that you invented a new religion, because you discovered why you farted, is a good example of the scam that Ron pulled on you. He got away with it because the world did not see these reactions as they applied to reading. Or if some scientist saw and knew it—he did not protest it and allowed a Cult to claim it as their own new discovery.
If you want to destroy the cult, study your own reactions each time you do something—learn to read yourself and use your own power of obnosis to discover the real world within and around you.

Yours truly

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Or maybe get the butter and jam ready. This is good stuff, along with today's news that Scientology has been charged in France with fraud and drug crimes.
by Mary McConnell
It's exciting to see the con game exposed by a country that will not tolerate deception and fraud at the expense of it's citizen's welfare.

The Sabine photo is priceless -The hate of scientology in contrast to the love of people who carefor it's victims.
Kudos to all.
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