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Police Brutality In NYC
by nyimc repost
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 4:58 PM
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At the NY Public Library, an older woman was hit in the face by an undercover cop, shocking those who witnessed the incident. Cops would not arrest the man despite the attempts of the woman who was struck.

06:20 PM

Protesters from the library are at 42nd and 6th. 40 cops on scooters ran after protesters with nets. Apx. 50 have been entrapped with nets. Police attacked protesters within the nets. Reports of a cop using a bike to hit someone. Several hundred are in the surrounding area.

06:16 PM

War Resisters League is heading north on 5th Avenue toward Madison Square Garden. 250 people are in the march.

06:15 PM

There are already 500 police at the library and apparently more are on the way. Nets have been pulled out.

06:11 PM

People from the bike bloc are being arrested at 40th and Broadway. The crowd which was at the library is being pushed down 40th. 15-20 arrests reported so far with an "absolutely obnoxious police presence."

06:08 PM

At 7PM, protesters will attempt to reconvene at Madison Square Garden, 34th and 7th.

http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/109998/index.php
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by Joe
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 8:30 PM
Damn. This guy is scary. Congrats to the person who took these shots.
by YankInOZ
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 8:57 PM
Vote for change, and I don't mean Kerry. Only Nader is a viable alternative. If we band together with a chain letter that all recipients forward to ten others, and those to ten others, by the eighth generation we will have reached 100,000,000, not counting many who will receive the email from more than one sender. And many who are not on the web at all, and will have to be told by word of mouth. Do it today. You want a link to beef up your argument? Use this one: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_5154.shtml
But the important thing is to get this chain letter going.
by Krishna Manohar
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 8:59 PM
Death camps and an American holocaust are not too far now.
What is the world coming too?
:(
by MdPeacenik
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 9:26 PM
Voting for Nadar is only voting to keep Bush in office. You can send out your emails if youlike, but its only going to hurt our chances of re-defeating Bush. Hell, in many states Nadar wont even appear on the ballot. And have you forgoten about the electorate college??? I highly doubt they will be casting many votes nadars way, and no matter how many of us vote for Nadar, if the electorate doesnt do the same then its all just in vein. Think about it.
by YankInOZ
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 9:42 PM
You say I should get real because Nader has no chance, and thus a vote for Nader is one for Bush by taking Nader's vote away from Kerry. How can you fail to see that a vote for Kerry is also a vote for Bush's same agenda, but just with Kerry in the White House. Putting Kerry in the White House is the same as putting Bush in there all over again. Same s***, different as*****s. How in the world can you believe Kerry is any kind of improvement over Bush?

Perhaps you accept that Kerry is only incrementally better, rather than a quantum better, and you are willing to settle for that. So it feels good that Kerry will pull the shaft out a few inches, compared to having in it there up to the hilt.

But this is like hammering yourself in the head because it feels so good when you stop. Anyhow, I'm not at all certain that the ultimate direction will be an incremental improvement, rather than an incremental worsening.

Like a lobster put into cold water in a pot on the stove, and turning up the fire, Bush and his PATRIOT and other Acts have nicked away freedoms, and apparently there are many who are only willing to take the least token action to do anything about it.

All I can do is warn you and suggest a solution. And so I get greeted with a "No can do" attitude. Least little obstacle, and you are perfectly willing to repotatoe on the nearest couch with a gasp of exhaustion.

No offense.
by howdy!
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 9:52 PM
what the fuck NADER vs BUSH vs KERRY has the hell to do with the violation of our human rights and busting the heads of peaceful protesters? hmmm? A senior has his face bloodied and that's all the hell you guys can talk about? What if this was your uncle from Jersey? Would that help to explain what's really going on here?
by MdPeacenik
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 10:31 PM
I get what your saying, and I agree with you, but like it or not Nadar has NO chance of winning, NONE!!! If Nadar really wanted to get into the white house then maybe he should have started his campaign drive about 2 years ago and really tried to build a solid base instead of waiting till the last minute to make his announcement like he did. If Kerry's 3 inches is the only possible gain we can strive for then Im all about it. And hopefully the Greens will get there shit together and we can make a run for it in '08. I know it's coke or pepsi, but just look at how damaging Bush is. He's got to go! 4 more years of Bush may be too much for America to handle.
by MdPeacenik
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 10:47 PM
Your right howdy, we should stop bickering amungst ourselves and figure out somthing to do about these atrocities we see before us. any suggstions?
by eb
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 11:25 PM
This is an appeal to the Nader crowd. I like Ralph Nader, but unfortunately he will not be on enough ballots to secure the needed electoral college votes to become president.
I urge you to consider the Libertarian Michael Badnarik. Badnarik will be on the ballot on at least 49 states. Badnarik is 100% against the War in Iraq while Kerry and Bush are arguing over who can wage the war more effectively.
The Libertarians are also very supportive of gay rights, medical marijuana, and a host of other issues that the protesters also support.
I wouldn't think of asking anyone to change their vote from one 3rd party to another, but please take a look at http://www.badnarik.org and see what the Libertarian candidate supports. I believe you will like what you see.
by Robert Sprye
(beowulf [at] affv.nu) Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 11:53 PM
The issue is not whether or not Nader can or cannot make a showing of substance with regard to his election chances which are beyond any debate zip and nil.

One need look no further than the so called "Democratic" party´s machinations to contain the Nader effort in order to come to the, for some sickening, for others all too obvious, realization that liberty and justice for all is NOT on the policy platform of either so called "party". Their self interest agenda of the falsely privileged is the same, the only difference is in social method...

Any fool can see this and for those who at this late stage are still ignorant enough to wave little party flags at the DNC and pretend to themselves that "they are helping support change", your true character profile is quite clear;

The majority of you are bigoted hypocrites who refuse to stand for truth and justice, refuse to call out your administration that represents YOU for its open criminal acts of lawless aggression for the profits of a few American owned corporations, refuse to demand and strike until provided, a clear and unbiased investigation of that regimes role in the events leading up to, during, and after 911, as well as willingly put on the uniform of fascist ideology while pretending you represent freedom and democracy.

Instead you wave little party flags and whimper tripe about how you are "incrementally" moving the nation and the world towards positive change.

The world does not have time to wait for the "incremental changes" of largely ignorant and manipulated American consumers, and will not.

Nader is hardly the stuff Presidents are made of, but he IS at the least a man with the character required to stand for ones convictions concerning truth and justice, liberty for all.

That at this stage is a rare occurence and an even more rare individual in the political arena.

A vote for anybody at all is a clear signal that Bush, Kerry, the entire sham of Republican/Democrat "politics", which is something my European friends and I have laughed at since 1970, is over.

Even American consumers will eventually stumble onto the awful truths of our sordid existence as wage slaves to the corporate tyranny that temporarily rules the planet.

Either we will wreak radical change on the face and actions of corporate endeavour or they will succumb with the rest of us as our resources and our social fabric continue to evaporate and crumble.

A vote for no candidate, which is how the MAJORITY of American citizens have voted since...? is also a clear signal but one that the propaganda apparatus of the falsely privileged (well, that term "media" is so misleading) will NOT print or debate. For obvious reasons.

You do not have a voice.

A clear signal that the majority of Americans, that is the wage slave segment of the population, are well aware that the political institution of this nation is merely a stage play of little relevance to the actual events that the oligarch plans and intends. Hence a vote, any vote at all, is entirely meaningless in a corrupted system.

I wager that the social situation will have deteriorated to such a degree thanks to the regimes inabiliy to recognize which tactics best ensure its own survival, that in 2008 a 3rd party candidate will provide a strong race.

I did not say win. The largest likelihood is that the 3rd party will be bought off in one form or another. Still, candidates come and go, like all opportunists, yet the people remain.

It is the machinations of the opposition itself that will call forth the sustained and concerted reaction of the populace and no amount of idealism, civic courage, or self sacrifice will avail against the abject surrender of individual citizenship and personal responsibility to self gratification and escapism by the vast majority of Americans as others.

So, as I said in the previous election I say again; it is good that Bush or Kerry will win because they are in fact the very catalysts for radical change needed, thanks to their inept brand of violent aggression against peoples, laws, and their own interests.

Their actions do more than all the words struck.

The imperative issue for now is to prepare a shadow infrastructure that will be prepared to immediately step into the chaos they are quickly establishing.

This is merely the beginning. .
by Chicago
Tuesday Aug 31st, 2004 11:56 PM
The man in the picture on the top has a red mark on his neck (his left side) I assume he was hit there by a night stick.

The rest of the pictures just look like arrest. Be careful, keep taking pictures. None of these pictures (except the top one) look that brutal.
by YankInOZ
Wednesday Sep 1st, 2004 2:02 AM
I put Nader out there because in these internet polls, he is the only alternative I've ever seen. However, it does seem Badnarik has a very similar agenda for the people, like Nader has, rather than for the "have mores," as Bush described his "base." Similar to how I believe Kerry will just be another Bush, so perhaps Badnarik would be another Nader. There is no denying his advantage in being on the ballot in 49 states - it's just that he doesn't pop up enough for most folks to notice.
However, an email chain letter can rectify that. After all, Nader's only got 3% to 4%, so it's not like turning away great gobs of voters. For me, I do not have a problem with either Badnarik or Nader. But I do want to avoid going off prematurely, like I did once in Chicago in 1982. I really kept on Richard Daley Jr to run against the incumbent Jane Byrne for Mayor, and actively supported him when he did. But then the next thing, here is this Black, Harold Washington, who announced out of the blue and went ahead to win when the White vote was split. Had I known Washington was running, I would have been in his camp instead of Daley's.

Even in 1982, there was a lot of N***** this and N***** that, and I believe all crendentialed racial, cultural, etc. diversity is what we ought to strive for at every turn.

And so Howdy!, we are trying to do something about the atrocities you pointed out of the police's beating old and young people as they peacefully petition their government with grievances. After all, they've taken our guns, and we're up against laser missles and gun ships, with no regard for whatever "collateral damage" might occur. After all, FDR set up Pearl Harbor by embargoing their oil and steel - acts of war. So yeah, sure, Pearl was a real surprise after all those ships steamed slowly across the Pacific. FDR strung out 3,000 innocent souls as live bait.

Anyhow, all we can do is organize with the vote. Unless you personally are feeling very bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. I think I will cut it there, lest I be accused of enciting a riot. Anyhow, what I was wondering is if you went to Texas A&M University, where "howdy" is the standard greeting, and Bush Sr's presidential library is located. I was there 1984 to 1991.

And Chicago, did you go to the 1968 DNC? I watched it at my place in Hyde Park, home of the University of Chicago, and the school attended by such Weathermen Underground luminaries as Bernadine Dorhn. My girl wanted to go, but I was chicken. Maybe I ought to use ChickenInOZ. Later after I got married, I was driving a cab through school, and Judge Julius Hoffman (who presided over the trial of the Chicago Seven resulting from disruption of the 1968 DNC) actually got into my cab from some party at the Drake Hotel. He road up to the end of Lake Shore Drive at North Avenue, I think some address like 1598 N LSD. Interesting, Daley Sr. have given the order to shoot to maim, so the police went rather rampant. At that time, Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion was at 1400 North State Street, and even he got bopped in the head with a nightstick when he ventured out. Boy, those were the days! Thanks for the memories.

Okay, so do we agree on Badnarik?
by Frustrated
(frustratedpatient [at] yahoo.com) Wednesday Sep 1st, 2004 12:49 PM
I think that what people are trying to do is find an alternative choice for president so that we can get these unconstitutional fucks out of the white house. There are some choice out there in the constitution party and a man named John Buchanan. I would love to hear more details about some of the things going on in New York. My prayers are with you and I hope that you keep up the good fight because those of us who enjoy freedom are rooting you on in Arkansas.
by YankInOZ
Wednesday Sep 1st, 2004 3:32 PM
I was swayed over to Badnarik from Nader because Badnarik has the advantage of being on the ballots in 49 states, with both Badnarik and Nader promising genuine relief for us.

Probably the Constitution Party's John Buchanan is another worthwhile choice for us. But is the Constitution Party on most of the states' ballots? These alternatives all seem to be the right kind of guy, so the big question is whether, after the chain letter hits the net, those who received it will see the candidate for whom they're looking actually on the ballot when they go to vote.
by Richard
(nate136_66 [at] yahoo.com) Thursday Sep 2nd, 2004 11:53 AM
What about Cobb of the Green Party?

First, great shots. It's hard to get the real brutal stuff unless your videotaping or are clairvoyant and know before hand when a cop will strike. Second, here in CA, some guy name Petroika is running as the Constitutional Party candidate. Third, there is also David Cobb of the Green Party running in 30 plus states for Prez. Better yet, we should all vote for our hopes & vision. If more than 80% of the registered voters voted, then maybe the media would be forced to show that the combined efforts of more than half of the voters were for someone the multi-nationals never would sponsor.

Otherwise, dance while you can or until the cops come to your door.

since less than
by MdPeacenik
Friday Sep 3rd, 2004 5:19 AM

Traitor to the Left, the hypocrite who still takes big $ from the G.O.P., and idiot ego-maniac, Ralph Nader, announced his run
to steal Democratic votes and re-select Bush. The "Great Betrayer" admitted twice publicly in 2000 that he wanted Bush to win.
The multi-millionaire has many stock holdings in defense industries and oil companies, and benefited greatly from the
'Welfare Program' that Smirk designed to further enrich the wealthiest Americans, paid for by the middle class taxpayers.
Nader also attended the Bush Victory dinner, sitting at the same table with Katherine Harris.
by Mdpeacenik
Friday Sep 3rd, 2004 5:34 AM
I admire that you all have too much pride to toss your vote the democrats way bieng that they arent a whole lot better than the pukes. But at the cost of another 4 years of Bush??? God help us all these next few years.
by YankInOZ
Saturday Sep 4th, 2004 3:51 AM
Thanks for the info about Nader's sleeping with the GOP. I am always eager to learn where I have been wrong, and in my opinion, I was wrong big time about Nader. However, I still am not convinced Kerry is really better than Bush.

Even you admit, "I admire that you all have too much pride to toss your vote the democrats way bieng that they arent a whole lot better than the pukes. But at the cost of another 4 years of Bush???"

While Nader may have been to the GOP dinner, Kerry and Bush were in the same frat, the infamous Skull & Bones.

JohnKerry.com is the campaign website that has links to several issues, and I got this from one of Kerry's links on Homeland Security: "I do not fault George Bush for doing too much in the war on terror, I believe he's done too little," Kerry said.

So, there's a very real possibility that war and its attendant pollution and debt will increase dramatically under Kerry. The main thing is Kerry's (or any other candidate's) devotion to Israel, because Middle East wars are Sharon's agenda, and he's the one calling the shots.

From the comments that I've read, Badnarik is still the best candidate.

However, in the days since my last post here, I've read other comments on another NYC RNC protestor site that was extremely alarming because of the significant number of Bush and Iraq War supporters. They really believe that stuff, and that you're stupid, ignorant, and all the other things that we believe they are for disagreeing with us, for anyone disagreeing with them. And if you have an education, they jump on you for being an intellectual elite lacking in common sense.

It is really scary that so many people have such a strong believe system that they get kicked mercilessly in the butt, and cheer the guy doing it.

This goes all the way back to a comprimised public education system that intentionally dumbs down its students so they are only capable of loyalty to authority figures. Read "Savage Inequalities" by Jon Kozol. Then make sure your passport is up to date while you can still quietly slip across the border, and keep abreast of international flight schedules for leaving Canada and Mexico. Good luck.
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