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Callouts for Bush Protests

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Varius groups have given callouts for bush protests
Direct Action Against the War callout:

Protest George W. Bush during his visit to United Defense Technologies

California Says No to Bush!

Protest George W. Bush during his visit to United Defense Technologies, Santa Clara

Friday, May 2, 2003, 8:30 AM

Meet at the Santa Clara Caltrain station at 8:30 am. Exact location to be announced (see below)

George W. Bush is making a speech at United Defense Technologies located at 1205 Coleman Ave, in Santa Clara 95050 (Near Costco). Bush will arrive between 9 and 9:30 AM on Friday and speak for an hour. Please join thousands of residents in the Bay Area and various organizations - South Bay Mobilization, California Peace Action, Direct Action to Stop the War, Global Exchange, International ANSWER, Not In Our Name, Peninsula Peace and Justice Center, Bay Area Against War, Labor for Peace and Justice, and United for Peace and Justice, and many more, as we tell him:
Money for jobs, education and people's needs, not for war!

Details:

- Take the Caltrain to the Santa Clara Caltrain Station and a shuttle will be provided to take you to the protest site.

- If you are driving, park at or near Marshalli Park (local map calls this Lafayette Park) at the corner of Lafayette and El Camino Real. Shuttles will be provided to take you to the protest site.

- Buses are available from San Francisco and Oakland. Call Global Exchange at 415-575-5555 to reserve a seat or to help with carpooling.

- If you have a van or SUV, call 408-998-8504 to help with shuttling people to the protest site (only 1 mile away).

- Carpools will leave from the South Bay Mobilization office at 8:00 am. We are located at 480 North First Street, San Jose, CA 95103

STAY TUNED FOR UPDATES! Bring your own signs to let Bush know what do you think about his economic plan for Silicon Valley with the highest unemployment rate in America.

For a flyer and a map of the location, please check
http://www.southbaymobilization.org

For more information, contact:
Peninsula Peace and Justice Center, (650) 326-8837,
South Bay Mobilization, (408) 998-8504,

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United for Peace and Justice Callout:
California Says No to Bush! Protest George W. Bush in Santa Clara, CA
FRIDAY, MAY 2, 8:30 AM
Exact location to be announced (see below).

George W. Bush is making a speech at United Defense Technologies in Santa Clara at 9:30 AM on Friday. Please join California Peace Action, Direct Action to Stop the War, Global Exchange, International ANSWER, Peninsula Peace and Justice Center, and the South Bay Mobilization as well
tell him:

Money for jobs, education and people's needs, not for war!

Check with sponsors listed below for exact event location. For people taking public transportation, shuttles will be available from the Santa
Clara Caltrain station. Buses available from SF and Oakland--call Global Exchange to reserve a seat or help with carpooling.

For more information, contact:
Direct Action to Stop the War, http://www.actagainstwar.org
Global Exchange, 415-575-5555, http://www.unitedforpeace.org
International ANSWER, 415-821-6545, http://www.internationalanswer.org
Peninsula Peace and Justice Center, (650) 326-8837,
http://www.peaceandjustice.org
South Bay Mobilization, 408-998-8504
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by Pringles
Toss German Pretzels at Bush, they almost made him choke.

Spread the word. Buy German pretzels if possible.
Hit Bush where it hurts!
by Isolationist
Anyone else find this line a bit ironic?

“If you have a van or SUV, call 408-998-8504 to help with shuttling people to the protest site (only 1 mile away).”

Especially coming from California Peace Action, Direct Action to Stop the War, Global Exchange, International ANSWER, Peninsula Peace and Justice Center, and the South Bay Mobilization considering that the past month or two they were creating signs that said No War For Oil/SUV’s?
by aaron
they're car-pooling, numb-nuts.

capitalist society is organized around the private auto.

perhaps if you and your "libertarian" friends helped fight for efficient and viable public transit alternatives there'd be less of a need to rely on cars.

oh--i forgot: that would go against your silly little market religion.

(would they avoid your oppobrium if they walked along-side 101?)

by Isolationist
How about a call for fuel-efficient vehicles to carpool the 1-mile instead of SUV’s and Vans? The net fuel efficiency using 33mpg 5 passenger cars is better than 10mpg 8 passenger SUVs.

How about a critical mass and cycling the 1 mile? Hey there was even a time when people walked 1 mile, that might be an interesting concept.

And yes we are a car driven society, but Caltrans gets you within a half a mile of United Defense which is pretty damn good. But as you’ve proven time and time again, you only practice what you preach when it’s convenient. And obviously 1 mile from the Lafayette and El Camino Real meeting spot or the half-mile from the Santa Clara Station is too much of an inconvenience for you to practice what you preach.

Oh and some more helpful advice, from either of these meeting spots you only use surface streets and this way you can avoid my “scornful scowls” from 101.
Ye who calls them self, 'Isolationist', is punished with the opprobrium of the good and fair people, whom the so called, 'Isolationist', has tried to discredit with disingenuous remarks.

By the way, ye who calls them self, 'Isolationist', if you really wanted to try and be an isolationist, you should not be interacting with others, maybe more truly, you are just are bored, lonely, sick, or what ever, get better soon, or just do your thing, as in political and personal isolationism, in others words, keep to your self and do not harangue others.
by Isolationist
A rose by any other name is still a rose. And you still avoid addressing the double standards of the SUV/Van issue, but if all else fails, if you can't intelligently debate your side of the issue then one can always fall back on name calling.
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by i
What are you trying to do Isolationist, actually make people think? For shame...
by aaron
what's this talk about a 1-mile trek? for a large number of people intending to go to this protest, this thing is far more than 1-mile away.

for many who want to attend and not lose a full day's work taking a car is a virtual necessity.

if people want to do a critical mass, more power to them. for many many people, for all sorts of reasons, biking is not an option however.

BTW, i don't think that these wars are for "our" SUV culture, although cheaper fuel MAY be an outcome. it's more accurate in my view to say these wars are being fought for the maintenance of the capitalist system of accumulation with the US ruling class as the continued hyper/super-power. oil, of course, is part of this.

i rarely drive a car, and would consider the use of energy efficient transit to be preferable, but i'm not gonna advocate hog-tying ourselves to methods of transport that are a recipe for a poorly attended event.
not, at least, until our foes are willing to do the same.

you say:
"as you’ve proven time and time again, you only practice what you preach when it’s convenient."

i say:
how the hell could you know what i "practice"? does your computer have functions that i'm not aware of?


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We know that, you/ 'Isolationist', are only trying to be an obnoxious jerk, which indeed you are, as the clear logic of the situation is apparent to all, but you it seems, as you babble on about how there is a, and this is a quote from you, “double standards of the SUV/Van issue”, ha ha ha, you transparent pathetic little bug, you know, or should know, that a person or persons can be against some thing in the general context of the issue and still in a specific instance where it may seem counter or a so called double standard to do so, do that very thing, but, try an understand, it comes down to a common sense of doing with what one finds them self with in the present World, of there now being the, polluting SUV.

In a future that is being strived for, yes, strived for, it will be wonderful to have non-polluting Vehicles, and if there is and or was a choice we would choose and will choose the non-polluting Vehicles.

Now, the explanation above, was all ready known and fully comprehended by all it seems, but you, and we believe that you also knew this, but being the bug that you are, you just had to try and be buggy, as in being a jerk, and yes, you fully deserve the opprobrium brought upon your self, which includes the so called name calling to try a capture your essence, you disingenuous little bug.

So, one more time, for, 'Isolationist'/transparent little bug, if a person or persons that are against the abuse of the Planet by ones who would abuse the Planet by unnecessarily using a gas guzzling and polluting vehicle such as the aforementioned SUV that is replicated, thousands, and thousands, and thousands of times around the World, that in that greater context, yes, hello, follow this you little transparent bug if you can, if in this context, the context of the countless thousands of SUV’s polluting the planet we as a people can replace them with a better, a hopefully non-polluting vehicle, wonderful, we are for that, but in the immediate and current moment if using that same polluting SUV to get us to that point of being able to make the World a better place, well, hellooo, yes, we, for sure, will do that, it is maybe to obtuse for you to comprehend, and if it is to obtuse, or difficult, or impossible for you to understand, or you just do not want to acknowledge that you understand, well that’s fine, you little transparent bug who calls your self, ‘Isolationist’, you will just go on babbling, or hopefully as we are driving over to the demonstration, to try and make this a better World, one in which there is a better SUV, one that is as non-polluting as possible, well any way, as I was saying to you, and as a Soothsayer and no, I am not the person you referred to as Aaron, but any ways, again as I the Soothsayer was saying to you, I envision the SUV driving on over to the demonstration site, where we will hopefully be able to take another step in the journey of making this a better World, one with out the need for vehicles to be as polluting as they are right now, and one with out the Evil Bushites and transparent little bugs that endeavor to do harm for their own, ‘Isolationist’, and selfish reasons, I envision as I am riding over to the site, in or not in a SUV vehicle, that all of a sudden I hear a splat on the windshield, (ha ha ha), I will think of you, you little transparent bug who call your self, ‘Isolationist'.

Just say, “KNOW”
Power to the peaceful
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by i
"you will just go on babbling.."

You accuse someone ELSE of babbling? *L*
Nice job of tripping all over yourself trying to justify your hypocritical use of SUV's. Are you trying to explain that people within your ranks own SUV's but that's OK 'cuz they only use them to transport large numbers of protesters to the next No Blood For Oil rally?
Too funny. Are you really Baghdad Bob, the Iraqi Information Minister?
You are so sad and pathetic and o' so, transparent, (‘I’), / 'Isolationist', you give your self away, yes so transparent, very sad and yet comical in a weird way, at the same time.

We figured your kind, would continue to babble on, so continue on, (i), - [lol] -, but if you ever do get your synapses firing more then a few times a day you will hopefully become sentient enough to realizes how obstinate, disingenuous, and stupid you have been.

LOL
Just say Know
Power to the peaceful

p.s.

Why don't you sign in this next time instead of, (i), or, 'Isolationist', try, Dork Head.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
by Isolationist
Aaron, The 1 mile came from Direct Action Against the War/The Poster directly: “If you have a van or SUV, call 408-998-8504 to help with shuttling people to the protest site (only 1 mile away).” The 2-meeting/staging areas for the United Defense Protest are within 1 mile and they requested vans or SUV’s to serve as shuttles to the protest. Many of the organizers have advocated a No War for Oil and a banning of SUVs in favor of more fuel-efficient vehicles viewpoint. But now that they have a need for transportation for 1 mile, SUV’s are now on there ok list? And you don’t see any irony in this at all because you’re afraid the net result would be a poorly attended event? If one believes in an issue so strongly, then one will support that regardless of it being inconvenient. As the organizers have proven, anyone can give lip service to an issue, but their call for SUV’s shows how truly dedicated they are to their cause. This lunacy is identical to the hypocritical Catholic Church preaching morality while they sweep child abuse by their priest under the table.

Soothsayer Slayer, I don’t need to use alternative identities to defend my viewpoint; I can defend it fine under this name. But I do have to say nice jpeg, sounds like a mantra you recited several times a day as it seems you don’t question the authority of the event organizers and their use of inefficient SUV’s to serve as shuttles to United Defense. Your overly verbose meandering tirade, 1,001 excuses for why SUV’s are now good, and name-calling were great and remind me of posters on Free Republic. You are the definition of the “faithful follower”, just like the Freepers, you let the puppeteer pull your strings and believe that you have “independent thought”. You’ve proven you can’t debate the issue either on an intellectual or philosophical level. I do need a good laugh and maybe on your rebuttal you can call me a “Poopie Head” or something really nasty and get me really “mad”.
If you only had a foundationally true view point, but alas, you do not, and no amount of your trying to twist, spin, minimize, trivialize, marginalize, or fabricate what I have said, or your obvious lack of comprehension, as well as your disingenuousness, is going to alter that.

Yes, I understand you have difficulty comprehending what I say, to you with the mind-set that you have, but that is something that you, will need to seek help for, also what you in denial and not wanting to acknowledge my reasoned points, to which you refer to as excuses, but in fact are salient, clear, logical points, yes we understand the need you have to believe that you have an intellectual or philosophical argument that has a foundation and a purpose that elevates, but again, alas, you do not.

No need for me to call you a Poop head, you have already done that to your self.

P.S. As I mentioned in the title, “Last life line out to the so called, 'Isolationist', who has spun to deceive.

So do not hold your breath waiting for me to expend any more time on you then I already have, and seriously you should try and take advantage of some good counseling, that allows you to try and be a part of an enriching, giving and loving life.


Power to the peaceful

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Just say, "KNOW"!
by Isolationist
A faithful follower, you’re nothing more. No cares for self-examination or expansion of your mind beyond what you’re told. Of course you think I need to seek counseling, because I dare to ask the question why and point out the hypocrisies when I see them regardless of them being conservative or liberal.

Go onto the world and spread your master’s gospel like a good faithful follower, no questions, nor concerns, and without thoughts of asking why. Go on knowing that you’re “safe” because your puppeteer feeds you lines you so desperately seek. I cast away your “lifeline” because this is the same line that binds you so close to your puppeteer. I’ve cut my strings and won’t bow to your master’s feet.
by a
If SUVs and pickup trucks are actually used for their real purpose, hauling stuff or large numbers of people around, that's fine. What I personally object to about SUVs is how people buy them just for their "macho" image. If you have a large family, an SUV or station wagon is not such a bad idea. If you are single or are a couple, it's idiotic.

So here, if the SUVs are used to transport a lot of people, that's fine. But as it's only half a mile from Caltrain most people can and should walk it.
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To the one calling them self, 'Isolationist', and thinks they have cut all strings. No, you have not, you are so very tied up by your life’s trials and tribulations that you are acting delusional, or just very very weird, in talking about me having a Master whose feet you do not want to kiss, hey, get a grip, you are losing it, you talk about me being this or that, after, you say, “Go onto the world and spread your master’s gospel like a good faithful follower, no questions, nor concerns, and without thoughts of asking why”.

I do not need to go, onto the World, I already am on the World, (lol), and I am my own arbiter, no matter how convenient if might be for you to say or think otherwise.

And as I have made clear above, numerous times, my points, you continue to go tripping into some weird tirade about a puppeteer feeding me lines, (lol), I have no one feeding me lines, this is my own material, (lol), you have to try and get a grip on your self, and if you can not, get help.

Just needed to let you know, that you seemed to be becoming even stranger then you have been, like you have wires, springs, cords, connections, strings, or something snapping, cracking, or breaking down, inside of you, get well if you can.

Power to the peaceful

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Emerson, in his famous poem, “The Sphinx,” asks the old, old question: what is the secret of the universe? Near the end of the poem the Sphinx speaks and says,

Man-child, I am thy spirit,
Of thine eye, I am eyebeam.


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***** Imagine *****

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

.............................................................................


Yes, you see even one who is their own Arbiter is still able to take from other sources, even thou that may come as a contradiction to you, it is not, and it does not mean you are a puppet.

O’ well, I have tried to help you, now it is up to you, to remain, cynical, obstinate, and pig headed, or not.
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Power to the peaceful
by Isolationist
Not surprised or shocked that you don’t understand Soothsayer Slayer nor did I expect you too. You are the faithful follower and you don’t want to hear things that makes you question and thinking about your belief system.

I’ve tried my best to open awaken you from your slumber but you chose to stay asleep. I just hope you open your eyes before you find yourself in the proverbial Jonestown.
by J. T. S.
Isolationist it looks like you are in denial, like you are so far up your butt, you can not see that it is you that is the Cult follower of the sick system that controlls you.

An Observation by the Observer.

J. T. S.
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