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Local Christian Nightclub Confronts Readers with Racist Jokes

by Rebecca Gonzalez
FRESNO CALIFORNIA- Anti Muslim / Arab jokes and discrimination aren't too hard to find in conservative Fresno California. On the website of a local Christian Night Club called 'Kuppajoe' readers were blasted with racist, alienating jokes.
FRESNO CALIFORNIA- Anti Muslim / Arab jokes and discrimination aren't too hard to find in conservative Fresno California. On the website of a local Christian Night Club called 'Kuppajoe' readers were blasted with racist, alienating jokes. The club has been in existence for a few years in central Fresno and is a small all-ages venue.

There is dialog on the website's guestbook about the offensive jokes. One poster who calls himself 'Batman' says "99% of jokes are making fun of people. That's what a joke is."

In Fresno there is a large muslim population. There are three mosques, student clubs on the college campuses and various stores that cater to the Muslim community.

The main website for the Kuppajoe Christian Club is located at: http://www.kuppajoe.com
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by adolf
TEN THINGS EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT RACE
Our eyes tell us that people look different. No one has trouble distinguishing a Czech from a Chinese, but what do those differences mean? Are they biological? Has race always been with us? How does race affect people today? There’s less – and more – to race than meets the eye:
1. Race is a modern idea. Ancient societies, like the Greeks, did not divide people according to physical distinctions, but according to religion, status, class, even language. The English language didn’t even have the word ‘race’ until it turns up in 1508 in a poem by William Dunbar referring to a line of kings.
2. Race has no genetic basis. Not one characteristic, trait or even gene distinguishes all the members of one so-called race from all the members of another so-called race.
3. Human subspecies don’t exist. Unlike many animals, modern humans simply haven’t been around long enough or isolated enough to evolve into separate subspecies or races. Despite surface appearances, we are one of the most similar of all species.
4. Skin color really is only skin deep. Most traits are inherited independently from one another. The genes influencing skin color have nothing to do with the genes influencing hair form, eye shape, blood type, musical talent, athletic ability or forms of intelligence.
Knowing someone’s skin color doesn’t necessarily tell you anything else about him or her.
5. Most variation is within, not between, “races.” Of the small amount of total human variation, 85% exists within any local population, be they Italians, Kurds, Koreans or Cherokees. About 94% can be found within any continent. That means two random Koreans may be as genetically different as a Korean and an Italian.
6. Slavery predates race. Throughout much of human history, societies have enslaved others, often as a result of conquest or war, even debt, but not because of physical characteristics or a belief in natural inferiority. Due to a unique set of historical circumstances, ours was the first slave system where all the slaves shared similar physical characteristics.
7. Race and freedom evolved together. The U.S. was founded on the radical new principle that “All men are created equal.” But our early economy was based largely on slavery. How could this anomaly be rationalized? The new idea of race helped explain why some people
could be denied the rights and freedoms that others took for granted.
8. Race justified social inequalities as natural. As the race idea evolved, white superiority became “common sense” in America. It justified not only slavery but also the extermination of Indians, exclusion of Asian immigrants, and the taking of Mexican lands by a nation that professed a belief in democracy. Racial practices were institutionalized within American government, laws, and society.
9. Race isn’t biological, but racism is still real. Race is a powerful social idea that gives people different access to opportunities and resources. Our government and social institutions have created advantages that disproportionately channel wealth, power, and resources to white people. This affects everyone, whether we are aware of it or not.
10. Colorblindness will not end racism. Pretending race doesn’t exist is not the same as creating equality. Race is more than stereotypes and individual prejudice. To combat racism, we need to identify and remedy social policies and institutional practices that advantage some groups at the expense of others.
by D.L. Brown (dbrowndini [at] juno.com)
Please tell me that you're kidding. Tell me that you're stretching the truth to make a point. Just don't try and tell me that you actually believe what you wrote.

I know this situation personally because I'm the one who put the joke on the website. This is another perfect example of ad hominem, name calling liberalism that seeks to spread it's own message with intimidation and lies.

Here's the truth about the kuppajoe.com website:
1) The joke was taken from the David Letterman show, so the analysis of a Fresno racist movement is ridiculous
2) The joke made no comments about worth or value, no attempt to diminish value based upon race, and no attempt to evaluate racial superiority. Do you even know what race the author was? Of course not, Mr. Blair.
3) The joke was merely a tongue-in-cheek play on words comparing Afghani life (as per national television news stories) to the names of popular U.S. TV shows (ie, a TV show called "Husseinfeld")

How about if I start making comments about Indymedia's attempt to censor anyone who make any comments about politics or war which may disagree with their own? And before actually speaking with the person involved--the MATURE thing to do--in an attempt to find intellectual stasis, I'll just post it all over my website.

But then I would be a typical 21st century liberal.

You should be ashamed.
by SERENA KELLY (RENJAMINKELLY [at] HOTMAIL.COM)
I THINK EVERYONE TAKES JOKES TOO SERIOUSLY THESE DAYS - IF IT ALL BECOMES TABOO, WILL WE BE ABLE TO LAUGH AT ANYTHING? PEOPLE STILL JOKE ABOUT WOMEN, WHY SHOULDNT THEY JOKE ABOUT RACISM? TO SAY YOU CANT JOKE ABOUT IT IS PREPOSTEROUS - ITS JUST MAKING IT A BIGGER DEAL THAN IT NEED BE. JUST FOR THE RECORD I AM A MIXED RACE YOUNG WOMAN. RELAX A BIT, PEOPLE. THE WORLD IS GETTING TOO UPTIGHT!
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