Why Is Dennis Lying like this ?

"Abu":

1) What was the context of the sentence you quoted?

2) What incident was Dennis referring to?

3) When did he say it?

4) What is the evidence that it was false?

5) If it was false, what is the evidence that Dennis would have known it was false at the time he said it?

P.S. You use an Arab-sounding pseudonym, but why should we believe you are Arab? Wasn't that used just to give more credibility to an attack on a pro-Palestinian activist?

Hey Zionist, who is Dennis? What are you doing on this website?

They're talking about Dennis Bernstein

see

http://www.flashpoints.net/

Aaron's questions are the way to respond. Don't need to get nasty (not saying you are, but it seems to be just below the surface, but I may be totally off base ;-)

Let's adress the questions

Was there any execusion in Gaza ?

No the only executions taking place in Gaza are those of Palestinians who are suspects of being colaborators with Israel. They are exceuted sometimes with any trial and some times after a mock trial that takes 2 hours + confirmation of the sentence by the Rais Arafat.

You can accuse me of being a zionist but what i wrote above is confirmed by HRW and amnesty

see:

http://www.hrw.org/press/2001/01/pa-ltr0130.htm

http://makeashorterlink.com/?S35E245F2

http://makeashorterlink.com/?S66E235F2



http://makeashorterlink.com/?W59E315F2


http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/pa/isrpa1101-04.htm

So to sum up there was NO EXecusion of any palestinian youth in gaza b Israelis and Dennis knows it too well. I'll address the other issues soon.

I wrote to him. I told him the truth: Palestinian organization send kids for "bravery mission" to infltrate into Gaza settlemnts. This is a suicide heroism mission.

Dennis accused me of using only "Israeli army radio" as my source when I wrote him back that I was quoting from Jennifer Lawstein he never botherd responding back.

Next question.

What does this has to do with the issue of truth ?

but if you want to know - I am against the Israeli settlemnts in Gaza. I fully support the labor candidate Mitzna who said that if he get elected the first thing he does is remove all 6000 settlers from the Gaza strip back to Israel. I hope the empty settlemnts and the land they now occupy can be given to Palestinian refugees - the current density in gaza is one of the worse in the world and it is only getting worse.

Rais Arafat called on Palestinian women to have more children. He said: "The womb of the Palestinian mother is our startigic weapon" as a result every women in palestine see her self as a mormon women from the "Monkey ranch gang" and trying to have at least 12 kids. Most families I know have 10 kids. The population growth rate in gaza is the bigget in the world 3.92/1000 per year. (Nigeria is at 2.62, India is at 1.51)

So to sum up the issue of truth in reporting has nothing to do with the question of being a zionist or muslim.

The settlemnts are not *jewish only* land.

The settlemnts have Palestinian Arabs who work there every day. The fact that these settlemnts should be evacuted from jews and given to Palestinians to become Palestinian only land has nothing to do with how Dennis reports it.

The daily situation is that every day and night Palestinian terrorist are trying to inflrate into jewish homes and kill the residents (yes the residents that should NOT be there but murder is NOT the answer)

As a result there are high fences and everyone in gaza knows very well where not to go and what is dangerous.

Still, someone sent those kids, with knifes, with fence cutters, to inflatrate into the settlment ? Who sent them on this suicide / bravery mission ? He is the one that Dennis should accuse of sending KIDS to their death.

Abu : You support cleansing the settlemnts out of their Jewish population and turning them into Palestinian only land ?

This is Ethnic Cleansing !

This is similar to what took place in Hebron in 1929 when the Arab killed all the jews in Hebron and Ethnically cleansed it from jews . This is similar to the massacre of Gush Etzion in 1948 where Arabs killed al the jewish residents of the Gush.

Yes. I fully support the complete dismentling of all the settlemnts and removing of settlers from them turning the land to br purely Palestinians.

I think Palestinian desreve to have their homeland, free of jewsih setlers. I think Israelis (jews and Arabs) desreve to have their homeland as well.

You can call me racist or supporter of Ethnic Cleansing, other may call me zionist - I do not care about labels only about solutions .

After World War 2 tens if not hundred of people were moved. No one thinks now about returning Germans to the sudet area in Check republic or reurting russions to Poland or returning the jews to homes they had in Arab countries. We need to be partical, look how Europe is now blosseming. This can be the case for Israel and Palestine if each has their won country without settlers in Palestine and with Israelis in Israel not in Palestine.

After WW-2 tens or hundreds OF MILLIONS changed address .

When a palestinian goes on a bus full of school children strapped with 20 pounds of explosives and sharp metal objects (similar to the ones used in Flachette) that are designed to kill everyone on the bus

(see http://www.e-bski.org/Israel/Gimmon.htm)

How exectly do you report this:

"Kids exceuted becase they are Jewish" ?

"Kids brutaly murdered bnecasue they are israeli in their national origin" ?

"Freedom fighters move a step closer in cleansing the country from the infadels " ?

Abu: So You are supporting the murder of the jewsih settlers ?

I support efforts by the Israeli goverment to be to remove the ettlers back to israel.

I do not support killing them, I do not support sending Kids to be killed there as well.

I just fixed a couple of really long links in a post by "Abu." They were screwin up the wrap on this page. Do not post really long links. It screws up the wrap. Do not screw up the wrap. It's rude. Instead, use http://makeashorterlink.com/index.php

This time I fixed it because it's a bright, sunny morning and I'm in a good mood. If you do it again, especially when I'm not in a good mood, I'll simply remove the comment and if you want to put it back you'll have to do the work yourself. I'm a volunteer here. I don't get paid. None of us do. We resent having to do otherwise unnecessary work, simply because some of you people out there lack the common courtesy not to screw things up for others. Don't let it happen again.

Sure. Thanks.

I am glad it is nice in San Fran. Enjoy your Sunday !

At last, somebody thanked us for something. This is examplary behabior. Good for you, Abu.

BTW, it's still Saturday here. Where are you located?

Well it is not sunday yet but getting close. I confused and thought you are ahead of me but I am ten hours ahead of you on the longitude of South Africa, Gaza, Tel-Aviv and Moscow.

But I happend to be in Netanya - have you heard about the town ?

That my daughter enlish teacher was one of the statistics you read about. She was near the March 4th, 2001 attack ona shoping mall, was not phisically hurt but suffered a heart attack at the scene and never went back to teaching.

She is not one of the many dead that Netayna suffered, she is not one of the many wounded she is just one more victim of terror that no one knows about.

Or should I tell about my neighberhood, home to Jews and christians from many countries, including black jews from Ethiopia and Christians from russia. Should I tell of black ethiopian kids playing with blond russian origin kids ? Of Arabs who used to live here (until 2 years ago) and some still work here side by side with jews - I see then everywhere in the supremarket, pharmacy, in goverment offices, unemployment line - everywhere. But what I read about it in Flashpoints web site - that this is a racist place.

Nothing is far from the truth, if california would have 1/10 of the inter-race relationships there are in Netanya you would have made a giant step forward.

Maybe i'll tell about another thing you never heard about. You know all about the big bombings that were here with tens of wounded.

But one day, my friend the local baker, noticed a painter working near his bakery has left his lader and bucket. After 15-20 minutes he decide to take a look in the bucket and saw nails, clock and wires. He shouted to everyone to get away, the bakery is a simple one, mostly poor people gather there to buy bread, as they all ran away the bucket blow-up.

I saw the place, the whole in the ground, the broken galsses all around, the heavy metal public telephone that got cut in half from the explosion but I remember most of all are the thousands small holes made by the nails that spiked the bomb - they were stuck in the plaster wallls all around the area at least 30 ft away.

Tens of people could have those nails in their hearts and heads. See some picture of an event that did not end up that well at:

http://www.e-bski.org/Israel/Gimmon.htm

These pictures where taken from victims of the school bus bombing in Jerusalem but do not expect DB to tell you about it.

Before the elections Dennis hosted the liberterian candidate on his show. Why ? becasue he is against Israel.

http://www.nyc.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=42767

Dennis probably had the Libertarian Party candidate on because he is anti-war. And the existence of a third-party candidate is big news. Abu-Ghazalah received 7% of the vote.

Did they discuss the libertarian agenda: free capitalism, guns to everyone or just Israel bashing ?

They discussed Iraq, Israel, the media's blackout of the race, a debate, civil liberties, racism, ... why don't you listen yourself? It's archived at http://www.flashpoints.net/realaudio/fp20021104.ram (interview with Maad Abu Ghazalah is 20:15 into it) with notes at http://www.flashpoints.net/index-2002-11-04.html

The segment also includes background on Tom Lantos's war-mongering and a fascinating interview with Greg Palast about Florida elections.

Abu still hasn't answered the five questions I asked in the comment that immediately follows his original posting.

I also want to point out to Abu that, since he(?) is not identifiable, nothing he says about things he has seen or heard constitutes evidence. An anonymous (or otherwise unidentifiable) poster can reasonably give references and make arguments based on such references or on generally known facts, but cannot be taken seriously as a witness to anything.

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/01/1557405.php

“Abu still hasn't answered the five questions I asked in the comment that immediately follows his original posting.
I also want to point out to Abu that, since he(?) is not identifiable, nothing he says about things he has seen or heard constitutes evidence. An anonymous (or otherwise unidentifiable) poster can reasonably give references and make arguments based on such references or on generally known facts, but cannot be taken seriously as a witness to anything. “
Amazing it has just struck me for the first time, people on this board take the nonsense they publish pretty seriously. They really believe in the hate propaganda they send from one to another that they want readers who disagree, with the lies and hate they are spreading; to bring evidence that will show that their lies are actually lies.
Truly amazing…

It is very unfortunate that such ignorance exists in the US of the 21st century.
Israel is no evil empire; its very existent is threatened on a daily basis by the Arab states and the 1.7 billion Muslims it is surrounded by.
These countries and individuals have never accepted the existence of a Jewish Israeli state in the region, in their ignorance and propaganda they do not recognize the right of any non-Arab or Muslim to live in this area. In their ignorance they do not recognize the facts of the past non-interruptible Jewish presence in this area. For them Israel never existed in this area and all archeological ruins that proves otherwise are no more that a Jewish propaganda that is and was deliberately and maliciously spread by the Zionist and Jewish lobby that controls the media. Arab, as well as left wing European and American movements r hatred towards Israel is being marketed to the free world every day as a form of Humanistic Justice liberal movement, where in fact it is no more than modern Nazism and Racism.

Nazism and Racism towards Jews, unfortunately, are not going to die or disappear, they are here to stay, 2000 years of hatred were, obviously, not enough. But still the opinions represented by you and your kind are soon to be obsolete, your fellow Muslims does the ambassadors diplomatic work for the state of Israel –
Do you know what is the most popular name in the Muslim world this year?
It was Osama…and from what other name did Osama take the lead? Saddam…

And I rest my case,

Have a good day, Sir.

Your message is hyperbole.

The fact is that Israeli IDF generals and many intelligence officers do not view the threat of total annihilation as a clear and present danger. They note this on public record (and no, I'm not going to provide references as I'm too lazy, but it's the truth and you can look it up if you wish)

Examination of the issues can be done without hyperbole -- the hyperbole found on both sides.

Israel being push into the sea was possible before 1967. Today, it's recognized as a myth, with the ultimate "check-mate" option being over 200 hydrogen nuclear warheads. Period, end of report. To say Israel can be defeated militarily is to distort reality.

I am not Farncessac or Moshe or what ever.

I did answered your fair questions the best I can in the URL you provided. If any of my replies has not answered your questions please clarify what else you need.

BTW, are you posting here under other names ?

There is a pesron that send many lies like that all the dead in Tel-Aviv attack are chineese and since no jews were killed it must be a mossad work. This is very similar to the 4000 jews claim by Al-manar TV (the TV channel of Hizzbualla = in arabic = the political party of god) that was later adopted by Baraka. In any case, the style of your post (with all the "=" marks in the name) is similar to the liar that posted about the attcack and if you areindeed that person I have no desire to argue with you.

In any case many people on the pacifica now mailing list know me for a year so while I amy not be identifable I have a consitent track rocored, Dennis also knows me but he nevr answer to simple question that i pose to him except to accuse me in things I have no connection too - but that is dennis, you should know him by now. I will repeat my question:
Anyone know why is Dennis lying ?
Anyone contacted him about it to get his comment ?

I stand by my accusation that he knows the truth.

Abu