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The smell of death

by ab o
Another herism act of the al-awda and al-kas Yassar Arafat Freedom fighters
I just came from Neve Shanan, the site of yesterday double homicide bombings where 23 people were murdered and over a hundred wounded. The semll of fire and death is in the air.

It is a place I know too well, I have been there at least 6 times over the past two weeks to prepare a photo essay on the foreign workers community in Israel. I actually had photos of Chinese immigrants sitting just last Friday at the exact restaurant that was destroyed yesterday - they were looking at photos of their sweethearts.

The damage is unbelievable, many stores at both sides of the streets and in near by street are damaged beyond belief. Opposing the main restaurant that was hit there was a small Chinese food place - it is completely burned with food still at the Wok. 2 stories above the stores there are several severly-damaged apartments. I have seen places of suicide bombing before but this is the worst - I can not understand the scope of that damage - this is not a bomb belt - this must have been a heavy backpack or a suitcase full of explosives.

The street itself was washed but there are places on the sides where t is still bloody. The worst is all the small pieces of human remains that are smashed on the floors some as high as the 3rd floor - there were people literally scratching these remains out of the walls.

Someone showed me example of what was in the explosive charge: a bolt of about 3/8 of an inch thick cut in diagonal and sharpened at all ends to create maximum tearing affect.

The population that was wounded is mostly non-Israeli: Chinese, Philippines - including a family all of them where moderately wounded including a 6-month pregnant women who lost her baby - ukteranians, many Romanians, Russians, many Africans and more. Of course there are also Israeli victims: About half of the dead are Israeli civilians.

I do not think you will hear about it in falsepoints.

Abu
by Jim
Some brave soul should do this attack at the Rainbow Coop and show the leftist scum of San Francisco what its like.
by ilk
You mean like in the post that started this thread?
by Jeremy Milgrom (jmilgrom [at] hotmail.com)
no such thing as pure scum, Fresca. Hard as it is, our job is to sift through the mud and to find the nuggets. Sure, most of what is in those racist articles from that Aryan superiority site ("Nation Vangard", etc.) makes for nauseating reading -- you can immediately tell by the generalizations -- but if you're already commenting, it's best to leave an opening for enlightenment. The author, and the person who posted, are probably unreachable, but what about the rest of the audience?

best wishes,

Rabbi Jeremy Milgrom
Clergy for Peace, Jerusalem
by x
I would hope that SF Indy editors can get the IP addresses of those that post stuff like Jim's comment above, and provide that information to the FBI if there ever is an attack. Jim's comment is totally unacceptable.

thnx for the pointer, nessie
by Jim
Its acceptable to say "I hope they kill the Zionists in Israel" but not "I hope they kill the leftist Jew-haters in San Francisco". Nazi motherfucker.
by x
The only appearance of an expression of hope that Zionists in Israel are killed within this thread is your fake reportage.

It's kind of odd that you seem to think that the left that happens to be against Israeli State oppression of Palestinians also happens to be anti-Jewish. The VAST majority of the left are not of this opinion. Only the most extremist of people would have that view.

You demonstrate you are an extremist of a different sort.

"Nazi motherfucker," you call me? Uh, maybe you might want to walk outside and take a big, deep breath of fresh air. Chill out. Get some perspective.
by x
Well, it's clear that "Jim" and "fresca" are likely the same people.

The other funny thing worth noting is that fresca's first comment was at 8:49am, a time when most Bay Area folks wouldn't have been around to have seen the "ab o" (spelled his own name incorrectly ;-) post as people were either asleep or just starting their day.
by fresca er. Jim
"The other funny thing worth noting is that fresca's first comment was at 8:49am, a time when most Bay Area folks wouldn't have been around to have seen the "ab o" (spelled his own name incorrectly ;-) post as people were either asleep or just starting their day. "

Well let's see, it's now about 12:40 AM and I'm still waiting for post NUMBER ONE even remotely refering to the bombings let alone comdemning them. I guess you guys in Frisco really sleep late. I'm sure, as fine upstanding lovers of all life you'll get right on it. The neutron bomb had to have been designed with your town in mind.



by x
the bombings are sick. period.

it was noted in the first message of this thread and just because no one jumps up and adds more info means nothing

again, go outside and get some fresh air now and then. you need it.

The VAST majority of leftists are STRONGLY against Palestinian acts of violence. If you can't see that, you need to educate yourself. Good bye and good luck........... over and out
by moshe = fresca = Jim = Abu?
they sure seem like the same person, given the history of the timestamps on their various posts and allied assault on the mythical leftist majority that, in moshe's world view, supports Palestinian attacks on Israelis.

Yeah, right... most leftists support Palestinian attacks on Israelis.... Just another message post by you all (or just you) to increase the noise on SF Indymedia. It should be patently obvious to most visitors stopping by briefly to read news here that your contention that leftists support Palestinian attacks on Israelis is nonsense. You're paranoid and delusional.
moshe = fresca = Jim = Abu?

Yes you are right, we have already realized that in your eyes, We are all the same…Jews Zionists Israelis...

You are nothing but a racist Anti-Semite!!!


by moshe = fresca = Jim = Abu?
Newsflash: I'm actually Jewish and in favor of a Jewish homeland in the current State of Israel as defined by international law (i.e., everything inside the green line).

2nd Newsflash: One can be in favor of Palestinian rights and have progressive views without being 1 iota in favor of Arab (or anyone) attacks on Jews.

3rd Newsflash: You need to stop reading the crap on the "Nation Vanguard" website. It's fucking with your mind.
1. Self-hatred is a subject for psychologists …

2. Progressive? How did you come to that conclusion, it is amazing how left wingers like to think highly of themselves, their opinions and righteousness, while seeing everything that contradicts them as just the opposite…
Progressive sounds like progress advanced, smells good…
Hate to disapoint you, your opinions are as old as the history of religion my Jew friend – Identifying the Jewish/Zionist/Israeli victim and crucifying him.

And the fact that these “Progressive” opinions comes from a Jew is no surprise at all, for the essence of left is the ability to look from above and CRITISIZE all the rest of us “simple” human beings, from its “Non Existent Higher Moral Ground”…
by moshe = fresca = Jim = Abu?
what an incredible pile of bullshit. None of what you said applies to me nor anything I said. There's not much I can say other than goodbye and good luck. You need the later, as it appears you think there are plenty of bogeymen out there
by moshe = fresca = Jim = Abu?

Here's an example of the dude above posting as "fresca"

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/01/1557379_comment.php#1557545

The message speaks for itself.

by ...........
It's all black and white with you, isn't it Fresca? Too many comic books I think.
Amazing how hard it is for you all to accept the simple fact: You are racist…
It is so simple say it out loud for a few times and you might be able to deal with it in the future, acknowledging the problem is part of the solution.
There is nothing to be ashamed of, can happen to the best of us.
The way in which you criticize Israel and Zionism tells the entire story of Anti-Semitism. In a very few web pages you have summarized it all.
Believing, saying and thinking that everything you write is the truth and nothing but the truth is natural as well, the Nazis were sure to be right as well, Centuries ago anti-Semites used to say the same thing about Jews, they were sure to be right as well.
That is a very common mechanism of self-defense; one has to be able to look in the mirror without lowering the eyes.
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