top
Santa Cruz IMC
Santa Cruz IMC
Indybay
Indybay
Indybay
Regions
Indybay Regions North Coast Central Valley North Bay East Bay South Bay San Francisco Peninsula Santa Cruz IMC - Independent Media Center for the Monterey Bay Area North Coast Central Valley North Bay East Bay South Bay San Francisco Peninsula Santa Cruz IMC - Independent Media Center for the Monterey Bay Area California United States International Americas Haiti Iraq Palestine Afghanistan
Topics
Newswire
Features
From the Open-Publishing Calendar
From the Open-Publishing Newswire
Indybay Feature

Not Our Fault Won't Vote for Clinton

by Elise Casby
This is a response to a Berniecrat who wrote to other Berniecrats on his way home from Philadelphia.
He is worried about not defeating Trump, and imploring us to vote for Hillary. My response to him, in this letter, is also a reasoned argument for why we should not vote for Hillary.
Thursday, August 4, 2016
Dear Harvey,
I agree with you, about Trump.
However, as a long time patient activist, I have grown extremely tired with the Clinton machine, the conservatism that Hillary displays, and yes, the crooked dealings of the DNC.
For several decades now, I have been patient, and so have many other progressives and voters.
Hillary may fail, but it is not the fault of us voters who are democrats, or greens, or socialists, or just people who want help and change, we have been working hard.
That is more than thirty years of patience, dedicated striving, that I and many, many others have delivered in order to build a sustainable future for humans in the world and us in the U.S.
I have been working on the grassroots level for change in areas such as pro-labor, the environmental movement, anti-war, and other grassroots movements on the left, and I have worked to get Democrats elected continuously.
Hillary, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and other establishment Dems are not strongly enough "about" the future, and "they" have not delivered at all for us.
Whereas, though Trump is a fascist, we are out of waiting time.
We who are not particularly brilliant, or wealthy, or who have not any great status, understood years ago, that the time for empire is over.
It is time for more change, for less war, for more alternative media and energy and a green mind-set.
Sadly, the Democratic Party made this decision to force our votes before.
For so many years, we did what "they", the establishment Democrats said, and now, we are finished with "the lesser of two evils" and Clinton.
We know Bernie actually would have won, because we did the math, and we clearly analyzed with rationality that was credible, accurate, and saw the DNC do illegal things to force a victory for Hillary.
We also knew however, that our votes might not be counted.
So, we all watched very, very closely this year, and of course, "they", the Democrats of the establishment did not count our votes, again.
We saw the mainstream media, essentially play the same game "they" played in 2000, duping us out of going to vote, by "calling" the election early.
We were finished a long time ago, with the Dems, yet we voted for them, for decades to prevent, "the worse of two evils".
Yet, "they", (the DNC, Hillary, etc.), kept refusing to really hear us, meet our needs, believe us...she voted for the attack on Iraq...and so much else.
The urgency we activists understood twenty years ago, in 1996, of the need for change, motivated us to give so much, for decades, for our country.
We gave and gave to get Al Gore elected, while he refused to recount all of Florida, he refused to fully reject the theft of that election of the year 2000.
Then we gave to John Kerry, only to have him concede to Bush, in the election of 2004, for what reason, we will never know.
Then, we worked hard, so very hard and gave so much to get Obama elected and he did not fully deliver.
Now, Obama has endorsed Hillary.
We thought for the past twenty years that we should work for our futures, and give up the money and effort we could have expended on ourselves.
But, Harvey, we have not seen that "they" appreciated our work for them, or even really understood what we needed them to do, not John Kerry, not Al Gore, and no, not Obama, or Hillary.
Hillary's world-view is extremely stale and old, outdated and unhelpful.
Sadly, we are over it.
We have watched for decades as "they" have lied, those democrats of the establishment, and we saw them manipulate the truth, so many times that many people now actually fully "know it".
Now, twenty four years after the first Clinton got elected and did not help us much, we still have given a lot to our grassroots movements, and we voted continually, for the "lesser of two evils", we are fed-up.
Now, in the last days and years when we might save ourselves on this planet, we are sickened by that tactic, and can no longer force ourselves to do it.
We will get the changes we need, and we know that Hillary will not do this for us.
So, perhaps Harvey, this is something you can still stomach, voting for "the lesser of two evils".
As much as Trump is the worst ever, truly, we can no longer allow ourselves to be manipulated, and forced.
We think "they" forced Trump on us, so we would vote for the "lesser of two evils", and we watched the corruption of the DNC unravel our attempts at democratic elections.
We know that Hillary won't help us, enough, and that it is because of the weaknesses and the corruption of the Democratic Party, the DNC, and the establishment Dems that we have been delivered over to Trump.
Therefore, we do not wish to vote for Trump, however, neither can we allow the fabrications, falsifications and the forced- vote, that is the very actually, coerced vote for Hillary.
We have been put into an impossible position.
It is not our fault.
We did not bring this on ourselves.
We have been working very hard for change, "they" the democratic establishment brought it upon us.
We will not be moved, and vote for "the lesser of two evils", and we will hold accountable those other establishment Democrats who delivered this mess upon us, for a change.
Sincerely,
Elise Casby
Long time democratic activist

Add Your Comments

Comments (Hide Comments)
by CorruptionKiller
Nothing against the DiGiralamos, but Bill Clinton pardoned Phil DiGiralamo in the late 80s for a tax evasion conviction that was related to FBI drug smuggling investigations in Moss Landing. They busted a whole ring - see CNBC documentary entitled Marijuana Inc. and its sequel.

A ringleader from Florida led a group of smugglers comprised of fishing boats to bring in beaucoup mj from latin america, just before our own mj industry took off. They had an electronics-equipped RV up and down Skyline Blvd to track the whole west coast Coast Guard fleet locations. They only got caught because the leader left a crucial notebook in a diner in Corning CA area.

Sally DiGiralamo was Democratic mayor of santa cruz in the early days. The real question is, WAS THIS A PARDON FOR CASH DEAL. Many believe so.

All citizens must watch Hillary's America for your own info, regardless of your voting pref's.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton

cnbc.com/marijuana-inc-inside-americas-pot-industry/
by Register Peace & Freedom or Green
It is good to see people are finally saying No to the twin parties of war & fascism, the Democrat-Republicans. They have terrorized Americans since 1945 to vote Democrat as the so-called lesser evil, actually the evil of 2 lessers. We need millions more to finally vote their conscience.

As to the current election, Republican Trump was a Democrat for most of his voting life, giving thousands of dollars to the Democrats and the Clinton Foundation. See Political Affiliations at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
He is now the PRE-ARRANGED bogeyman who says all kinds of crazy things to make sure you vote for Clinton. No serious candidate of any party would say all the ridiculous things he is known for. The Democrat-Republicans always stage their presidential campaigns since they cannot afford to leave anything to chance. Neither party has anything to offer the workingclass, the 80% of us who sell our labor for less than $80,000 a year.

The history of the Democratic Party can be seen in the following chant:

We remember Hiroshima-Nagasaki (Democrat Truman);
We remember the frame-up and eventual execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg (Truman);
We remember Korea, with 3 million dead Koreans, 1 million dead Chinese, 36,000 dead Americans (Truman);
We remember Vietnam, with 3 million dead Vietnamese, 1 million dead Cambodians, 58,000 dead Americans and thousands of other dead people (Truman, Kennedy, Johnson since the US paid 80% the French war against Vietnam after WW2);
We remember Iraq and Yugoslavia, both victims of “depleted” uranium, and in the case of Iraq, over 1 million dead and hundreds of thousands displaced (Bill Clinton);
We remember Sudan, Somalia and many more (Clinton) (See http://technoccult.net/archives/2007/10/11/war-casualties-under-clinton-and-bush/)
We remember Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria, installation of Nazi Ukraine where they worship a proud Nazi, the late Stepan Bandera and have just named a street after him, drone killing, targeted assassination lists, praise of US war crimes in Vietnam, accelerated destruction of Civil Liberties (See “The Obama Legacy Part V: Waging War on Civil Liberties,” 8/2/16, by Danny Haiphong at http://www.blackagendareport.com/obama_legacy_civil_liberties (Barack Obama)
We remember Palestine being destroyed by Israel (Truman through Obama, Democrats and Republicans together, 100%)
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, WE KNOW WHICH SIDE YOU ARE ON!

Since most of the workingclass never votes, we need everyone who does to register and vote either Peace & Freedom or Green, the only 2 pro-labor, pro-peace and pro-environment parties. Please go online to register at https://covr.sos.ca.gov/?language=en-US

For more information, see
http://www.peaceandfreedom.org/home
http://www.glorialariva4president.com/
http://www.glorialariva4president.com/program (Gloria LaRiva for President with a serious socialist program)

and
http://www.cagreens.org/
http://www.gp.org/
http://www.jill2016.com/ (Jill Stein for President)
http://www.jill2016.com/platform

ALL ABOARD THE PEACE & FREEDOM PARTY-GREEN PARTY FREEDOM TRAIN!
by Register Peace & Freedom of Green
Democrat Pres Jimmy Carter's 4 years in office deserve a mention in the chant, which is amended as follows:
We remember Hiroshima-Nagasaki (Democrat Truman);
We remember the frame-up and eventual execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg (framed by Truman);
We remember Korea, with 3 million dead Koreans, 1 million dead Chinese, 36,000 dead Americans (Truman);
We remember Vietnam, with 3 million dead Vietnamese, 1 million dead Cambodians, 58,000 dead Americans and thousands of other dead people (Truman, Kennedy, Johnson since the US paid 80% the French war against Vietnam after WW2);
We remember Unemployment Insurance being tax-free until 1978, the 1979 bipartisan Advisory Council which promoted taxing of Social Security which bipartisan Congress legalized in 1983 (See https://www.ssa.gov/history/taxationofbenefits.html), the disastrous effects of the 1978 Airline Deregulation Act (See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-morris/airline-deregulation-ideology-over-evidence_b_4399150.html); the US aid to the murderous Indonesian government at war with East Timor in 1977, US aid to CIA terrorists in Afghanistan in 1978, US aid to the fascist dictatorship of El Salvador in 1980 that murdered Archbishop Oscar Romero and thousands of other people, and the beginning of the homeless crisis in 1980 (Democrat Carter);
We remember Iraq and Yugoslavia, both victims of “depleted” uranium, and in the case of Iraq, over 1 million dead and hundreds of thousands displaced (Bill Clinton);
We remember Sudan, Somalia and many more (Clinton) (See http://technoccult.net/archives/2007/10/11/war-casualties-under-clinton-and-bush/);
We remember Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria, installation of Nazi Ukraine where they worship a proud Nazi, the late Stepan Bandera and have just named a street after him, drone killing, targeted assassination lists, praise of US war crimes in Vietnam, accelerated destruction of Civil Liberties (See “The Obama Legacy Part V: Waging War on Civil Liberties,” 8/2/16, by Danny Haiphong at http://www.blackagendareport.com/obama_legacy_civil_liberties (Barack Obama);
We remember Palestine being destroyed by Israel (Truman through Obama, Democrats and Republicans together, 100%)
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, WE KNOW WHICH SIDE YOU ARE ON!
We are 100% volunteer and depend on your participation to sustain our efforts!

Donate

$160.00 donated
in the past month

Get Involved

If you'd like to help with maintaining or developing the website, contact us.

Publish

Publish your stories and upcoming events on Indybay.

IMC Network