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NV State Engineer Rules Against Goshute Tribe and in Favor of SNWA Pipeline
The Nevada State Engineer's decision last week supports the SNWA proposed pipeline despite numerous objections from the indigenous Goshute Nation and many other scientists who warn that the finite aquifers of the Snake and Spring Valley targeted by the SNWA pipeline would not sustain this amount of extraction without causing ecosystem collapse as springs dry and species become extinct. It could be said that removal of water from the sovereign Goshute Nation by the SNWA is a form of cultural genocide.
Goshute Tribe: Nevada State Engineer Over-allocates Water to Las Vegas
Jason King published a decision today on the most important water rights battle ever decided by any Nevada State Engineer. The ruling could allow for 83,988 acre feet of water to be removed from four valleys in the Great Salt Lake Desert aquifer to send to Las Vegas under a proposal made by the Southern Nevada Water Authority. SNWA had applied for 125,976 acre-feet from these valleys and plans to request more from Snake Valley.
Details on the ruling can be found online
at: http://water.nv.gov/hearings/past/springetal/documents.cfm?DIR=Final%20Rulings
The Goshute Tribe has been defending itself from the threat of this project for nine years, but with little support from the federal government, which has a trust responsibility to protect the tribe’s interests. On its own, the tribe interviewed almost every one of its tribal elders to document cultural uses and sites they consider sacred within its ancestral landscape in preparation for this hearing. The tribe detailed its hunting and gathering areas, massacre sites, historic villages, burial sites, sacred springs, and more as part of this process. This substantive information was presented to the State Engineer during the six week hearing (see cultural map online which is available for media use), but does not appear to have influenced the decision in any meaningful way.
Tribal Chairman Ed Naranjo stated, “I fear Mr. King’s decision today might literally wipe out our tribe. What is most frustrating though, is that millions of people who will be severely impacted by this project, have never even heard of it. Goshute people never damaged the earth, we never messed with the balance, but others are out to destroy us, and seemingly for only one reason, the almighty dollar.”
Additionally, six Goshute witnesses testified and detailed the Goshute’s strong cultural ties to this area and spiritual beliefs about the importance of water. During this testimony, SNWA’s attorney asked the Goshute witness to explain the difference between Goshute spiritual beliefs, and his own childhood belief in the bogeyman. The were numerous protestants arguing against SNWA’s proposal during the hearing, including the LDS Church, Salt Lake, Millard, Juab, and Tooele Counties in Utah, Great Basin Water Network, and the Ely and Duckwater Shoshone Tribes.
The Goshute tribe has 30 days to decide whether to appeal of the State Engineers decision in court.
Vice-Chair of the Goshute Tribal Council, Madeline Greymountain says, “Las Vegas might believe it has hit the jackpot with today’s decision, but the tribe has no intentions of letting this go without more fight. Goshute People are determined to protect the abundant life that exists in Spring Valley. These natural resources are vital to our existence, spiritual balance and well-being. This land is part of our ancestral lineage. It is as important to our people today, as it was to our past, and will be to our future generations. So we must protect it in every way we can.
NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE________________________MARCH 23, 2012
CONTACT: Paul Echohawk- 208-478-1624, or Asher Koles- 801-633-7201
http://greatbasinwater.net/pubs/GoshutePressRelease.pdf
http://www.greatbasinwater.net/news/news_display.php?id=622
http://www.goshutewater.org
Nevada Pipeline Opponents Slam State Engineer Grant of Rural Water Rights to Southern Nevada Water Authority
by Abigail Johnson Kcsg Television Published - 03/22/12 - 08:15 PM
(Carson City, NV) - Nevada State Engineer Jason King Thursday granted the Southern Nevada Water Authority rights to pump up to 83,988 acre-feet of the groundwater from four eastern Nevada valleys drew a swift and stern response from pipeline opponents, who called the ruling “excessive and ill-considered.”
Simeon Herskovits, attorney for the pipeline opponents, said the ruling will be attacked in state courts.
“We believe that the State Engineer has ignored or dismissed compelling hydrological evidence that we and other protestants submitted – evidence that clearly showed that there is no unappropriated water available in Cave, Dry Lake and Delamar Valleys. Pumping the granted water rights from Spring Valley would be unsustainable, environmentally destructive and illegal groundwater mining,” said Susan Lynn, coordinator of the Great Basin Water Network. “We will consider our options carefully but this ruling will not go without challenge.”
“Pumping and exporting 12 billion gallons of groundwater annually from Spring Valley will dry up springs and harm existing water rights both in Spring Valley and down-gradient in Snake Valley, into which the groundwater flows,” said protestant Abigail Johnson. “The amount of pumping this decision allows would lower the groundwater table by up to 200 feet, and equilibrium in the water table will not reached for centuries, with strong likelihood of irreparably harming Nevada’s only national park.”
Simeon Herskovits, attorney for Great Basin Water Network and other pipeline opponents, said the acceptance of the so-called “monitoring and mitigation” process promised by the SNWA was particularly problematic given that few, if any, specifics exist for how that would be done.
“The supposed monitoring provides no assurance of protection for water rights holders, communities or habitat in the region,” he noted.
Tom Myers, a hydrologist who has studied the Great Basin in detail, predicted that it would not be possible for SNWA to pump the billions of gallons annually from the well locations specified by the water agency. That means SNWA will have to “file countless change applications to drill additional wells,” he said.
Las Vegan Launce Rake noted that SNWA has said repeatedly that they won’t proceed with the pipeline project until they absolutely must have water for use in Las Vegas, which could be decades in the future. “This begs the question of whether SNWA has fully established a need for this water, and whether they have the ability to finance this enormously expensive project,” Rake said.
“My biggest concern is that this will be an incentive to further degrade Las Vegas’ already struggling water conservation programs in an effort to boost water use and justify the project,” he said. “We can’t afford the pipeline, fiscally or environmentally.”
A businesswoman in the Snake Valley, near Great Basin National Park, agreed.
“Holding on to these water rights for 25 to 50 years without putting them to beneficial use not only flouts the prohibition against speculation in Nevada water law, but it unfairly inhibits opportunities for future growth and development in the affected basins in Lincoln and White Pine Counties,” said Denys Koyle, Baker businesswoman.
And Native Americans who would be affected by pumping also were concerned with the ruling.
“The ruling brushes aside the need to protect the public trust, ignoring the negative effects of excessive pumping upon Great Basin National Park, tribal sacred and cultural sites, threatened and endangered species, and national wildlife refuges and wetlands,” tribal member Delaine Spilsbury stated.
“Great Basin National Park, which adjoins Spring Valley, faces great peril with the decision to ultimately pump over 61,000 acre feet each year,” said Lynn Davis, Nevada Field Office Manager for the National Parks Conservation Association. The national park’s historic and unusual caves are threatened because they are hydrologically linked to Spring Valley’s groundwater, according to Davis.
GBWN Utah Coordinator Steve Erickson said that Utahns should also oppose this ruling because of its impact on the ranching communities in Utah’s portion of Snake Valley. “Thousands of acre feet of groundwater that now flows down into Snake Valley each year from Spring Valley will be pumped away before it can get there, and that will have negative impacts on farming, wildlife, and possibly air quality in the Wasatch Front.
"It is especially heart-breaking that we learned of this decision on World Water Day, a day that is supposed to be about human needs and the environment," said Ann Brauer of Indian Springs. "Instead, this decision, if it stands, gives a green light to SNWA to defoliate the Great Basin, destroy Native American communities, dismantle conservation programs, plant water-hungry turf, encourage unneeded development and stick the ratepayers of Clark County with a $15 billion bill."
http://www.kcsg.com/view/full_story/17977412/article-Nevada-Pipeline-Opponents-Slam-State-Engineer-Water-Ruling?instance=home_first_stories
Jason King published a decision today on the most important water rights battle ever decided by any Nevada State Engineer. The ruling could allow for 83,988 acre feet of water to be removed from four valleys in the Great Salt Lake Desert aquifer to send to Las Vegas under a proposal made by the Southern Nevada Water Authority. SNWA had applied for 125,976 acre-feet from these valleys and plans to request more from Snake Valley.
Details on the ruling can be found online
at: http://water.nv.gov/hearings/past/springetal/documents.cfm?DIR=Final%20Rulings
The Goshute Tribe has been defending itself from the threat of this project for nine years, but with little support from the federal government, which has a trust responsibility to protect the tribe’s interests. On its own, the tribe interviewed almost every one of its tribal elders to document cultural uses and sites they consider sacred within its ancestral landscape in preparation for this hearing. The tribe detailed its hunting and gathering areas, massacre sites, historic villages, burial sites, sacred springs, and more as part of this process. This substantive information was presented to the State Engineer during the six week hearing (see cultural map online which is available for media use), but does not appear to have influenced the decision in any meaningful way.
Tribal Chairman Ed Naranjo stated, “I fear Mr. King’s decision today might literally wipe out our tribe. What is most frustrating though, is that millions of people who will be severely impacted by this project, have never even heard of it. Goshute people never damaged the earth, we never messed with the balance, but others are out to destroy us, and seemingly for only one reason, the almighty dollar.”
Additionally, six Goshute witnesses testified and detailed the Goshute’s strong cultural ties to this area and spiritual beliefs about the importance of water. During this testimony, SNWA’s attorney asked the Goshute witness to explain the difference between Goshute spiritual beliefs, and his own childhood belief in the bogeyman. The were numerous protestants arguing against SNWA’s proposal during the hearing, including the LDS Church, Salt Lake, Millard, Juab, and Tooele Counties in Utah, Great Basin Water Network, and the Ely and Duckwater Shoshone Tribes.
The Goshute tribe has 30 days to decide whether to appeal of the State Engineers decision in court.
Vice-Chair of the Goshute Tribal Council, Madeline Greymountain says, “Las Vegas might believe it has hit the jackpot with today’s decision, but the tribe has no intentions of letting this go without more fight. Goshute People are determined to protect the abundant life that exists in Spring Valley. These natural resources are vital to our existence, spiritual balance and well-being. This land is part of our ancestral lineage. It is as important to our people today, as it was to our past, and will be to our future generations. So we must protect it in every way we can.
NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE________________________MARCH 23, 2012
CONTACT: Paul Echohawk- 208-478-1624, or Asher Koles- 801-633-7201
http://greatbasinwater.net/pubs/GoshutePressRelease.pdf
http://www.greatbasinwater.net/news/news_display.php?id=622
http://www.goshutewater.org
Nevada Pipeline Opponents Slam State Engineer Grant of Rural Water Rights to Southern Nevada Water Authority
by Abigail Johnson Kcsg Television Published - 03/22/12 - 08:15 PM
(Carson City, NV) - Nevada State Engineer Jason King Thursday granted the Southern Nevada Water Authority rights to pump up to 83,988 acre-feet of the groundwater from four eastern Nevada valleys drew a swift and stern response from pipeline opponents, who called the ruling “excessive and ill-considered.”
Simeon Herskovits, attorney for the pipeline opponents, said the ruling will be attacked in state courts.
“We believe that the State Engineer has ignored or dismissed compelling hydrological evidence that we and other protestants submitted – evidence that clearly showed that there is no unappropriated water available in Cave, Dry Lake and Delamar Valleys. Pumping the granted water rights from Spring Valley would be unsustainable, environmentally destructive and illegal groundwater mining,” said Susan Lynn, coordinator of the Great Basin Water Network. “We will consider our options carefully but this ruling will not go without challenge.”
“Pumping and exporting 12 billion gallons of groundwater annually from Spring Valley will dry up springs and harm existing water rights both in Spring Valley and down-gradient in Snake Valley, into which the groundwater flows,” said protestant Abigail Johnson. “The amount of pumping this decision allows would lower the groundwater table by up to 200 feet, and equilibrium in the water table will not reached for centuries, with strong likelihood of irreparably harming Nevada’s only national park.”
Simeon Herskovits, attorney for Great Basin Water Network and other pipeline opponents, said the acceptance of the so-called “monitoring and mitigation” process promised by the SNWA was particularly problematic given that few, if any, specifics exist for how that would be done.
“The supposed monitoring provides no assurance of protection for water rights holders, communities or habitat in the region,” he noted.
Tom Myers, a hydrologist who has studied the Great Basin in detail, predicted that it would not be possible for SNWA to pump the billions of gallons annually from the well locations specified by the water agency. That means SNWA will have to “file countless change applications to drill additional wells,” he said.
Las Vegan Launce Rake noted that SNWA has said repeatedly that they won’t proceed with the pipeline project until they absolutely must have water for use in Las Vegas, which could be decades in the future. “This begs the question of whether SNWA has fully established a need for this water, and whether they have the ability to finance this enormously expensive project,” Rake said.
“My biggest concern is that this will be an incentive to further degrade Las Vegas’ already struggling water conservation programs in an effort to boost water use and justify the project,” he said. “We can’t afford the pipeline, fiscally or environmentally.”
A businesswoman in the Snake Valley, near Great Basin National Park, agreed.
“Holding on to these water rights for 25 to 50 years without putting them to beneficial use not only flouts the prohibition against speculation in Nevada water law, but it unfairly inhibits opportunities for future growth and development in the affected basins in Lincoln and White Pine Counties,” said Denys Koyle, Baker businesswoman.
And Native Americans who would be affected by pumping also were concerned with the ruling.
“The ruling brushes aside the need to protect the public trust, ignoring the negative effects of excessive pumping upon Great Basin National Park, tribal sacred and cultural sites, threatened and endangered species, and national wildlife refuges and wetlands,” tribal member Delaine Spilsbury stated.
“Great Basin National Park, which adjoins Spring Valley, faces great peril with the decision to ultimately pump over 61,000 acre feet each year,” said Lynn Davis, Nevada Field Office Manager for the National Parks Conservation Association. The national park’s historic and unusual caves are threatened because they are hydrologically linked to Spring Valley’s groundwater, according to Davis.
GBWN Utah Coordinator Steve Erickson said that Utahns should also oppose this ruling because of its impact on the ranching communities in Utah’s portion of Snake Valley. “Thousands of acre feet of groundwater that now flows down into Snake Valley each year from Spring Valley will be pumped away before it can get there, and that will have negative impacts on farming, wildlife, and possibly air quality in the Wasatch Front.
"It is especially heart-breaking that we learned of this decision on World Water Day, a day that is supposed to be about human needs and the environment," said Ann Brauer of Indian Springs. "Instead, this decision, if it stands, gives a green light to SNWA to defoliate the Great Basin, destroy Native American communities, dismantle conservation programs, plant water-hungry turf, encourage unneeded development and stick the ratepayers of Clark County with a $15 billion bill."
http://www.kcsg.com/view/full_story/17977412/article-Nevada-Pipeline-Opponents-Slam-State-Engineer-Water-Ruling?instance=home_first_stories
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I am confused as to why this water issue was never decided in Federal Court. Why was this decision to allocate water to Las Vegas, that impacts Federally protected land (the Great Basin National Park), the Federally protected people of the Confederated Tribes of the Goshute Reservation, and several states (Utah, California, Idaho, Oregon, Wyoming, as well as Nevada), left for one man to decide the outcome? How was Nevada State Engineer, Jason King, given the right, the authority, and the jurisdiction to decide this monumental water rights decision that can impact so many people, so many states, so many ecosystems, and an ancient NATIVE AMERICAN culture? It is obvious to me (and I am certain I am not alone) that Mr. King was acting in his state's own best interest, and maybe his own, as well (if indeed he was receiving bribes), when he made this decision because he clearly has not thought about the immense consequences of his decision and what it is potentially responsible for destroying. I don't believe these states, these people, these ecosystems and any Native American culture should pay the price for Las Vegas ignorance. Whomever was responsible for planning that urban sprawling mess that is now Las Vegas, without considering where they would get the water from, to water all of the people and businesses this sprawling urban mess has produced, BEFORE it manifested to the mess it is now, is to blame. Las Vegas made it's bed, now it should lay in it, without robbing any other innocent entities of it's rightly owned and entitled water. I have no sympathy for Las Vegas and the mess it has become, and again, I'm sure I am not alone in that thinking. I think that the planners of Las Vegas, and Jason King, are ignorant for wanting other states, Federally protected lands, Federally protected people and ecosystems to bail them out of the mess they created themselves, and give up their water rights. I ask AGAIN, WHY wasn't this decision brought to FEDERAL COURT?
There is no confusion to the motives of the SNWA and developers who are trying to get the urban ratepayers of Las Vegas to pick up the tab for the SNWA pipeline that will ultimately benefit suburban sprawl developers like Harvey Whittemore and the Coyote Springs development north of Vegas, with 100,000 more houses in the works provided that the SNWA pipeline becomes reality.
This really does mirror the Owens Valley water grab nearly a century ago that was a financial bonanza for the developers of the San Fernando Valley. Turns out the residents of L.A. never needed that much water at the time of the construction of the Owens aqueduct, hence the water ended up in the SFV and L.A. ratepayers picked up the tab. This process is likely to repeat itself in Las Vegas as most modern residents are unaware of the deception used in the planning of the Owens Lake water heist.
The SNWA under the militant leadership of General Manager Patricia Mulroy has been advancing the pipeline proposal for decades since their initial start up funding from H. Whittemore that he is trying to get people to forget. Fear is the tool of the SNWA as it was the tool of the LADWP to get their ratepayers to concede to these expensive projects that only add more sprawl to the region and thus more smog and congestion.
There are plenty of other similarities between the Owens Lake water grab and the potential water grab from northern Nevada. Have detailed some similarities in this report;
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2012/03/252200.php
This really does mirror the Owens Valley water grab nearly a century ago that was a financial bonanza for the developers of the San Fernando Valley. Turns out the residents of L.A. never needed that much water at the time of the construction of the Owens aqueduct, hence the water ended up in the SFV and L.A. ratepayers picked up the tab. This process is likely to repeat itself in Las Vegas as most modern residents are unaware of the deception used in the planning of the Owens Lake water heist.
The SNWA under the militant leadership of General Manager Patricia Mulroy has been advancing the pipeline proposal for decades since their initial start up funding from H. Whittemore that he is trying to get people to forget. Fear is the tool of the SNWA as it was the tool of the LADWP to get their ratepayers to concede to these expensive projects that only add more sprawl to the region and thus more smog and congestion.
There are plenty of other similarities between the Owens Lake water grab and the potential water grab from northern Nevada. Have detailed some similarities in this report;
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2012/03/252200.php
SNWA General Manager Patricia Mulroy lacks any concerns for the results her proposed pipeline from Snake and Spring Valley will have on the nearby Goshute Nation who share the same aquifer.
Here's the definition of cultural genocide according to the United Nations;
"Article 7 of a 1994 draft of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples uses the phrase "cultural genocide" and declares that indigenous peoples have the "collective and individual right not to be subjected to ethnocide and cultural genocide, including prevention of and redress for:
(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
(c) Any form of population transfer which has the aim or effect of violating or undermining any of their rights;
(d) Any form of assimilation or integration by other cultures or ways of life imposed on them by legislative, administrative or other measures;
(e) Any form of propaganda directed against them."
http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/home/green-glossary-cultural-genocide.htm
When an entity such as the SNWA makes attempts to remove the water from beneath the Goshute Nation with a pipeline by using deceptive propaganda that action meets the definition of cultural genocide. Maybe with General Mulroy's German ancestry this type of action would be something best avoided? How would you like to be remembered by history General Patricia Mulroy? The person in this century responsible for the destruction of the cultural integrity of the Goshute Nation? With all that education available at the public library, and yet General Mulroy still feels that water transfers are the best way to go?
Guess that you think that you can play God, Gen Manager Mulroy?
Would like to nominate SNWA General Manager Patricia Mulroy for the #1 Narcissistic Personality Disorder of the Year 2012 award!!
BTW - For German people who are trying to live down the bad name we got from Adolf Hitler, you are not helping our collective credibility by waging political war against the Goshute Nation!!!
Curses can be applied to those individuals in positions of authority who are arrogant to the point of causing cultural genocide against the best interest of those they claim to represent (NOT in our name!). We WILL protect the ecosystem against your destructive forces by any means neccesary. We're not all nice like those Sierra Club folks either!
We have angels like Metatron (aka Metatron the Merciless) on our side and your authoritarian and deceptive attempt to destroy the Goshute Nation by stealing their water with a pipeline for your developer friends will fail miserably, as will you.
Don't worry General Manager Patricia Mulroy, you can still dance after you leave this physical realm. By your looks you are halfway there anyway. Your actions made me this cruel!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbI7zaRiQnY
On a more positive note, there is life in resourcefullness;
Rainwater harvesting helps prevent flash flooding by reducing surface area and catching rooftop runoff to store directly below ground.
Potential energy of evaporated ocean water (sea level to clouds) can be regained by installing turbines in rainwater harvesting tubes to charge as energy collected from gravity forcing water down the tube.
Rainwater harvesting will be reliable as backup water sources to be stored in below ground cisterns.
Every year it will rain in Las Vegas for the next century. That is a promise that can be delivered in physical reality, unlike distant aquifer water from pipelines!!
Lots of LONG TERM green jobs from rainwater harvesting, as opposed to SHORT TERM jobs from the SNWA pipeline!
"The practice of rainwater harvesting dates back to the earliest days of civilization yet was nearly lost in the age of inexpensive and readily available municipal water supplies.
Lately, with the cost and supply of municipal water becoming an issue, there has been a growing resurgence of interest in rainwater harvesting by home and building owners. Thousands of small systems suppliers have emerged to fill the demands of homeowners across the country. But there are special challenges for the more sophisticated systems installed in commercial and institutional buildings. The vastly larger quantities of rainwater collected require more sophisticated processing and storage, and the engineering standards and approval requirements are significantly more rigorous.
Wahaso focuses entirely on the commercial and institutional building market - and has developed proven, large-scale rainwater harvesting systems that meet rigorous building and regulatory requirements.
The following section provides a general overview of the system components of a commercial rainwater harvesting system from Wahaso."
http://www.wahaso.com/rainwater_system.php
http://www.rainbrothers.com/large-scale.html
Here's the definition of cultural genocide according to the United Nations;
"Article 7 of a 1994 draft of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples uses the phrase "cultural genocide" and declares that indigenous peoples have the "collective and individual right not to be subjected to ethnocide and cultural genocide, including prevention of and redress for:
(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
(c) Any form of population transfer which has the aim or effect of violating or undermining any of their rights;
(d) Any form of assimilation or integration by other cultures or ways of life imposed on them by legislative, administrative or other measures;
(e) Any form of propaganda directed against them."
http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/home/green-glossary-cultural-genocide.htm
When an entity such as the SNWA makes attempts to remove the water from beneath the Goshute Nation with a pipeline by using deceptive propaganda that action meets the definition of cultural genocide. Maybe with General Mulroy's German ancestry this type of action would be something best avoided? How would you like to be remembered by history General Patricia Mulroy? The person in this century responsible for the destruction of the cultural integrity of the Goshute Nation? With all that education available at the public library, and yet General Mulroy still feels that water transfers are the best way to go?
Guess that you think that you can play God, Gen Manager Mulroy?
Would like to nominate SNWA General Manager Patricia Mulroy for the #1 Narcissistic Personality Disorder of the Year 2012 award!!
BTW - For German people who are trying to live down the bad name we got from Adolf Hitler, you are not helping our collective credibility by waging political war against the Goshute Nation!!!
Curses can be applied to those individuals in positions of authority who are arrogant to the point of causing cultural genocide against the best interest of those they claim to represent (NOT in our name!). We WILL protect the ecosystem against your destructive forces by any means neccesary. We're not all nice like those Sierra Club folks either!
We have angels like Metatron (aka Metatron the Merciless) on our side and your authoritarian and deceptive attempt to destroy the Goshute Nation by stealing their water with a pipeline for your developer friends will fail miserably, as will you.
Don't worry General Manager Patricia Mulroy, you can still dance after you leave this physical realm. By your looks you are halfway there anyway. Your actions made me this cruel!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbI7zaRiQnY
On a more positive note, there is life in resourcefullness;
Rainwater harvesting helps prevent flash flooding by reducing surface area and catching rooftop runoff to store directly below ground.
Potential energy of evaporated ocean water (sea level to clouds) can be regained by installing turbines in rainwater harvesting tubes to charge as energy collected from gravity forcing water down the tube.
Rainwater harvesting will be reliable as backup water sources to be stored in below ground cisterns.
Every year it will rain in Las Vegas for the next century. That is a promise that can be delivered in physical reality, unlike distant aquifer water from pipelines!!
Lots of LONG TERM green jobs from rainwater harvesting, as opposed to SHORT TERM jobs from the SNWA pipeline!
"The practice of rainwater harvesting dates back to the earliest days of civilization yet was nearly lost in the age of inexpensive and readily available municipal water supplies.
Lately, with the cost and supply of municipal water becoming an issue, there has been a growing resurgence of interest in rainwater harvesting by home and building owners. Thousands of small systems suppliers have emerged to fill the demands of homeowners across the country. But there are special challenges for the more sophisticated systems installed in commercial and institutional buildings. The vastly larger quantities of rainwater collected require more sophisticated processing and storage, and the engineering standards and approval requirements are significantly more rigorous.
Wahaso focuses entirely on the commercial and institutional building market - and has developed proven, large-scale rainwater harvesting systems that meet rigorous building and regulatory requirements.
The following section provides a general overview of the system components of a commercial rainwater harvesting system from Wahaso."
http://www.wahaso.com/rainwater_system.php
http://www.rainbrothers.com/large-scale.html
my last comment;
"Don't worry General Manager Patricia Mulroy, you can still dance after you leave this physical realm. By your looks you are halfway there anyway. Your actions made me this cruel!"
That was my mistake, making an ad hominem attack against Gen. Patricia Mulroy. Though she does indeed drive me crazy with her actions, ad hominem attacks remain fallacies of logic and cannot be used to justify an otherwise cogent argument that the SNWA pipeline is indeed a form of cultural genocide against the Goshute Nation.
Metatron is a angel and shows mercy to the weak and oppressed. Metatron does NOT show any mercy to wicked individuals in positions of authority who abuse their power by exploiting those weaker than them. For abusive authoritarians like General Manager Patricia Mulroy, he would be considered "Metatron the Merciless", though for the ecosystem, spring snails and the Goshute, he would be considered "Metatron the Merciful Savior".
"METATRON ADDRESS TO THE UNITED NATIONS
~ Archangel Metatron Channel via James Tyberonn
Greetings ! I am Metatron, Lord of Light, and I embrace you with love, unconditional love
1st World Nations
Now, there are some that will say that the prominent nations of what you term the 1st world, the financially dominant and powerful, are more like corporations than countries. Corporations based on profits whose residents are treated more as employees than citizens, especially within the United States.
That the gap between the ' haves & have-nots' is growing increasingly wider. There are some that would say that the overall masses of the United States are controlled and manipulated by media, intoxicated by quantity and enslaved by debt. That sovereignty of the individual has been lost. Yet a light still shines, and it is growing brighter. A new generation across the planet are coming into power, and they will quicken the change.
We tell you the time is nearing in which people will awaken to the knowledge that it is not their encumbering debt that ties them to their beliefs, rather their beliefs that shackle them to the burden of debt.
The global economic system will change, but it will not free-fall & crash irreparably in planetary chaos. . To do so in utter chaos would not serve what is to come. Rather it will be forced into change, drastic change, and positive elements will come forward to enable a better way.
The New Earth, the New Humans cannot and will not create its better future by simply discarding its past. The change will come by learning from the past and adjusting in the present, one step at a time. The new Humans in the generations that is coming into power in the next decade will choose a new pattern as a work in progress, and that economic shift will occur.
The Power of Love
Masters, we have said before and we say again, that when the love of power is replaced by the power of love, humanity will make a quantum leap, but know that love without strength is incomplete. Love without strength is not integral LOVE.
The changes the next 15 generations of humanity will make will create the flowering of the Ascension.
Change is occurring all around you, and it is not hard to see. Look at what has happened and is happening even now in North Africa and the Middle East. And look at how this shift began. It took strength, it took will, it takes courage.. . This is what we mean when we say integral LOVE requires strength, and that strength was an accomplish of great will and courage.
The Strength of Love
One courageous young man in Algeria decided enough was enough, and he wasn't going to take the injustice of tyrannical corruption anymore. He extinguished his life with a flame and that fire burnt into the face of tyranny. ...and it is still burning. A purifying crucible. Look at what the actions of one pure soul created, it spawned a revolution that is still turning wheels and changing the world.
The energy of the planet is changing, and the 'old guard' of political power over love simply cannot stand in the new paradigm. Nations that rule by brute force are falling, one tyrant, one corrupt government at a time.
And so we say to all governing bodies that unless change is brought from the top, it will be summoned from the bottom, and mightily so."
http://lightworkers.org/channeling/140855/recent-metatron-address-un-tyberonn
Angels like Metatron are not confined to Christianity and exist as powerful spirits of positive energy for pagans and indigenous peoples. Belief in rescuing angels should not be used to discredit my science that is always referenced in facts!
The pop theme songs from the eighties all have lyrics relevent to the article it is attached to. Since they tried to take away youtube, am taking advantage of that resource while i still can!
There are some members of the Christian community who discredit individuals who talk with angels, calling them heathens. However, it sounds like the message from Metatron condradicts the status quo in the Church and also the governments. Those in positions of power always fear the truth!!
"At school they taught me how to be
So pure in thought and word and deed
They didn't quite succeed..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7I5UaB7mx4
"Don't worry General Manager Patricia Mulroy, you can still dance after you leave this physical realm. By your looks you are halfway there anyway. Your actions made me this cruel!"
That was my mistake, making an ad hominem attack against Gen. Patricia Mulroy. Though she does indeed drive me crazy with her actions, ad hominem attacks remain fallacies of logic and cannot be used to justify an otherwise cogent argument that the SNWA pipeline is indeed a form of cultural genocide against the Goshute Nation.
Metatron is a angel and shows mercy to the weak and oppressed. Metatron does NOT show any mercy to wicked individuals in positions of authority who abuse their power by exploiting those weaker than them. For abusive authoritarians like General Manager Patricia Mulroy, he would be considered "Metatron the Merciless", though for the ecosystem, spring snails and the Goshute, he would be considered "Metatron the Merciful Savior".
"METATRON ADDRESS TO THE UNITED NATIONS
~ Archangel Metatron Channel via James Tyberonn
Greetings ! I am Metatron, Lord of Light, and I embrace you with love, unconditional love
1st World Nations
Now, there are some that will say that the prominent nations of what you term the 1st world, the financially dominant and powerful, are more like corporations than countries. Corporations based on profits whose residents are treated more as employees than citizens, especially within the United States.
That the gap between the ' haves & have-nots' is growing increasingly wider. There are some that would say that the overall masses of the United States are controlled and manipulated by media, intoxicated by quantity and enslaved by debt. That sovereignty of the individual has been lost. Yet a light still shines, and it is growing brighter. A new generation across the planet are coming into power, and they will quicken the change.
We tell you the time is nearing in which people will awaken to the knowledge that it is not their encumbering debt that ties them to their beliefs, rather their beliefs that shackle them to the burden of debt.
The global economic system will change, but it will not free-fall & crash irreparably in planetary chaos. . To do so in utter chaos would not serve what is to come. Rather it will be forced into change, drastic change, and positive elements will come forward to enable a better way.
The New Earth, the New Humans cannot and will not create its better future by simply discarding its past. The change will come by learning from the past and adjusting in the present, one step at a time. The new Humans in the generations that is coming into power in the next decade will choose a new pattern as a work in progress, and that economic shift will occur.
The Power of Love
Masters, we have said before and we say again, that when the love of power is replaced by the power of love, humanity will make a quantum leap, but know that love without strength is incomplete. Love without strength is not integral LOVE.
The changes the next 15 generations of humanity will make will create the flowering of the Ascension.
Change is occurring all around you, and it is not hard to see. Look at what has happened and is happening even now in North Africa and the Middle East. And look at how this shift began. It took strength, it took will, it takes courage.. . This is what we mean when we say integral LOVE requires strength, and that strength was an accomplish of great will and courage.
The Strength of Love
One courageous young man in Algeria decided enough was enough, and he wasn't going to take the injustice of tyrannical corruption anymore. He extinguished his life with a flame and that fire burnt into the face of tyranny. ...and it is still burning. A purifying crucible. Look at what the actions of one pure soul created, it spawned a revolution that is still turning wheels and changing the world.
The energy of the planet is changing, and the 'old guard' of political power over love simply cannot stand in the new paradigm. Nations that rule by brute force are falling, one tyrant, one corrupt government at a time.
And so we say to all governing bodies that unless change is brought from the top, it will be summoned from the bottom, and mightily so."
http://lightworkers.org/channeling/140855/recent-metatron-address-un-tyberonn
Angels like Metatron are not confined to Christianity and exist as powerful spirits of positive energy for pagans and indigenous peoples. Belief in rescuing angels should not be used to discredit my science that is always referenced in facts!
The pop theme songs from the eighties all have lyrics relevent to the article it is attached to. Since they tried to take away youtube, am taking advantage of that resource while i still can!
There are some members of the Christian community who discredit individuals who talk with angels, calling them heathens. However, it sounds like the message from Metatron condradicts the status quo in the Church and also the governments. Those in positions of power always fear the truth!!
"At school they taught me how to be
So pure in thought and word and deed
They didn't quite succeed..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7I5UaB7mx4
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