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Occupy Oakland Death to Capitalism Banner
by Dave Id
Wednesday Nov 2nd, 2011 12:14 PM
General Strike. Occupy Everything.
Death to Capitalism

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by Mike
Wednesday Nov 2nd, 2011 9:18 PM
Under the true definitions of capitalism, these banks and bigwigs would have failed and died long ago.

The problem with today's society isn't capitalism. It is plutocracy. Our economy is a plutonomy and our government is a plutocracy.

A more accurate message would be something along the lines of 'death to plutarchy'.

A banner like this only hurts the movement because it shows the large amounts of ignorance within the movemnet.
by Jim
Thursday Nov 3rd, 2011 1:43 AM
But with respect to future debt; would it not be wise and just for that nation to declare in the constitution they are forming that neither the legislature, nor the nation itself can validly contract more debt, than they may pay within their own age, or within the term of 19 years.
Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, September 6, 1789
by Ben
Thursday Nov 3rd, 2011 1:50 AM
Before the equal voting rights movement managed to end it in the early 20th century, many countries used a system where rich persons had more votes than poor. A factory owner may for instance have had 2000 votes while a worker had one, or if they were very poor no right to vote at all. Even artificial persons such as companies had voting rights.[citation needed] This is still the case in municipal governments of many countries, where the franchise is based on rate-paying and not citizenship alone
by Adam
Thursday Nov 3rd, 2011 8:21 AM
Hear, Hear! Thank you, Ben.

I think we call all point at this current system and agree that it needs change, even drastic change. But to call this current system "capitalism" is to miss the point; labels like "plutocracy", "fascism", "corporatism", and "socialism for the wealthy" hit far closer to the reality.

Worse, words like these alienate a great number of people who would otherwise be natural allies. Far better to attack the rampant fraud and theft that has been perpetrated by banks and their pet politicians. Fraud has always been illegal, it's high time we started punishing people for it.
by Adam
Thursday Nov 3rd, 2011 8:23 AM
Doh! Mike, not Ben.
by ............
Thursday Nov 3rd, 2011 5:00 PM
you could say in a banner , ''the death of capitalism !'', if that banner seems too harsh for some!
by Impressed
Sunday Nov 6th, 2011 9:02 AM
WTF? That banner is amazing. Don't be so quick to call others ignorant. I'm mightily inspired by what's happened in Oakland, and that banner is spot on. Capitalism is crisis.
by Sly Fox
Friday Aug 24th, 2012 7:35 PM
Down With Currency Slavery. One way or another everyone is going to have to work together towards a better future.