Indybay Regions North Coast Central Valley North Bay East Bay South Bay San Francisco Peninsula Santa Cruz IMC - Independent Media Center for the Monterey Bay Area North Coast Central Valley North Bay East Bay South Bay San Francisco Peninsula Santa Cruz IMC - Independent Media Center for the Monterey Bay Area California United States International Americas Haiti Iraq Palestine Afghanistan
From the Open-Publishing Calendar
From the Open-Publishing Newswire
Indybay Feature

RELATOS ZAPATISTAS special podcast on "THE POLITICS OF VICTIMHOOD" [december 2010]

by relatos zapatistas (relatoszapatistas [at]
THE POLITICS OF VICTIMHOOD: special podcast featuring interviews with zach levenson, a UC berkeley student involved in protests around police brutality and the murder of oscar grant, and the privatization of public education; and john gibler, a reporter who's extensively covered mexican social movements and conflicts including the zapatistas' "other campaign," the oaxaca rebellion of 2006, and the mexican government's narco-wars. (1:15, mp3)
Listen now:
Copy the code below to embed this audio into a web page:
On the evening of November 5, after BART cop Johannes Mehserle was given the minimum sentence for the murder of Oscar Grant, over 150 people were arrested during a protest in downtown Oakland. Instead of declaring an unlawful assembly, which would have allowed protesters to disperse, the Oakland police simply declared the march a "crime scene," blocked off all escape routes, and arrested everyone. Oakland Chief of Police Anthony Batts later told the news media that the final straw was when a protester took an officer's gun and pointed at him.

On November 17, students protested at the UCSF Mission Bay campus, where the UC Regents were meeting to approve an 8 percent tuition increase, on top of the 32 percent increase last year. When protesters tried to push their way into the meeting, police fought back with batons and pepper spray. At one point, a police officer Jared Kemper drew his gun and aimed it at a group of unarmed students. UCSF Chief of Police Pamela Roskowski later told reporters that the officer was forced to defend himself when a protester had snatched his baton and attacked him with it.

We begin this month's show with these moments, in which heavily armed riot police backed by the full juridical authority of the state are portrayed as victims, in order to think about "the politics of victimhood." What does it mean for the state to position itself as the victim, or being victimized in these situations? Being that the states defining characteristic could be the monopoly on violence, what mechanisms does it use to reasonably represent its agents and institutions as victims? How do movements on the left address and confront the states implications of "victimhood"? Is "victim" always a representation, an ideological position, and if so, what does that mean for solidarity politics based on an acknowledgment of victimhood? We are interested in victimhood as a category for analyzing the rhetorical positionings that underpin political and ideological conflict.

In the first part of the show, we'll talk with one of the protesters who was present on both November 5th and 17th, who will tell us about the actions and the police response in each case. The point is not to show that "we're the real victims!" but to think through the political implications of that label.

In the second part of the show, we turn from what to how. We suggest that the mainstream media is not "liberal" or "conservative," but obsessed with the state. Those press conferences where police spokespeople tell reporters "exactly what happened" are the symptom of a disease: they can't think outside the state and its agents as the primary source of knowledge, of absolute truth. We'll talk with a reporter who has worked with both mainstream and alternative media in order to explore how the mainstream media’s fetishization of the state enables these claims of victimhood. We close the show with a discussion around the importance of alternative media which, by providing other venues to tell and create different histories and struggles, disrupts the crystallized networks of complicity that link the mass media to the state.
Add Your Comments
We are 100% volunteer and depend on your participation to sustain our efforts!


$255.00 donated
in the past month

Get Involved

If you'd like to help with maintaining or developing the website, contact us.


Publish your stories and upcoming events on Indybay.

IMC Network