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Emergency Protest: No New War on Korea!
Date Monday November 29
Time 5:00 PM - 6:00 PM
Location Details
Powell and Market Sts.
Event Type Protest
Organizer/AuthorANSWER Coalition
Emailanswer [at] answersf.org
Phone415-821-6545
AddressANSWER Office: 2489 Mission St. #24
No New Korean War!
Stop the Provocations – U.S. Military Out of Asia Now!

The Obama administration and its South Korean client government led by the rabidly anti-communist President Lee Myung-bak are blaming the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea) for the latest escalation of hostilities in the Korean Peninsula.

But in reality the crisis there is the result of a policy of deliberate provocation by the U.S. and South Korea over the past several months. These provocations are targeting both the DPRK and the People’s Republic of China, countries where the often-concealed but very real aim of U.S. leaders -- Democrats and Republicans alike – is “regime change.” They could also lead to a new Korean war, one that could expand to wider regional, and potentially nuclear, conflict.

While hypocritically calling for “calm” in words, Washington is escalating the crisis by its actions. A U.S. naval group led by the nuclear “super-carrier” USS George Washington is on its way to carry out joint military maneuvers with South Korean warships in the Yellow Sea, menacing both China and the DPRK. By moving this huge aircraft carrier into the Yellow Sea the Pentagon and White House are sending a direct, threatening message of escalation since China considers these waters to be part of its sovereign territory.

On November 24, an unnamed “senior administration official” confirmed that the U.S. is escalating pressure on China: “China clearly does not like to see U.S aircraft carriers, for example, in the Yellow Sea.” (NY Times, Nov. 25, 2010)
What's needed to resolve the crisis

The DPRK wants direct talks with the United States, a formal Peace Treaty ending the Korean War, and a normalization of relations with the United States. This seemed like a realizable goal in the last months of the Bill Clinton administration in 1999 and 2000. George W. Bush scuttled these efforts shortly after taking office in 2001. The Obama administration continued this policy with new sanctions and endless war games simulating the invasion and bombing of North Korea.

The anti-war movement and all progressive people and organizations should stand against any new war, and demand an end to the U.S.-South Korean provocations.

In the latest incident, the North and South Korean armies exchanged artillery fire on November 23. Two South Korean soldiers and two civilians were reported killed and others wounded. Casualties on the North Korean side have not been reported. As in all such previous incidents, U.S. and South Korean leaders condemned the DPRK. But, as even a close reading of the universally anti-North corporate media here reveals, the first shells were fired by the South during military exercises staged in a disputed sea area close to the west coast of North Korea.
The North Korean government stated that it was "reacting to the military provocation of the puppet group with a prompt powerful physical strike," and accused Seoul of starting the skirmish with its "reckless military provocation as firing dozens of shells inside the territorial waters of the" North.

The roots of the crisis

The western sea border between the North and South is not recognized as legitimate by the DPRK. It was unilaterally created by the United States, using the mantle of the United Nations as a fig leaf and cover for its actions, at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War. The U.S. and allied forces fought the DPRK under the UN flag, slaughtering millions of Korean people and leveling the northern half of the country by massive bombing. That war further divided a historically unified society into competing states. While an armistice was signed in July 1953, the U.S. has refused the demands of the DPRK to sign a Peace Treaty formally bringing the war to an end.U.S.

“War Games” = Preparation for Real War

In recent years there have been at least three clashes in the same area as the November 23 incident. The DPRK had repeatedly warned South Korea against carrying out the latest “war games” the area. In fact, the term “war games” is a misnomer -- these maneuvers should correctly be called dress rehearsals for war. No one knows, moreover, whether any particular military exercises is practice or the real thing, until it is over and done with. This is especially true when the “war games” take place in extremely close proximity to an enemy state.

The U.S. and South Korea annually stage such exercises close to both China and the DPRK. The latest and largest joint drills were held this past summer despite strong protests from both the PRC and DPRK. Those “games,” labeled “Invincible Spirit,” included a simulated invasion of the North.

China’s defense ministry especially objected to the presence of a U.S. aircraft carrier close to its coast. In typical arrogant fashion, a U.S. Defense Department spokesperson responded: “Where we exercise, when we exercise, with whom and how, using what assets and so forth, are determinations made by the U.S. Navy, the Department of Defense, by the United States government.” (Agence France Presse, July 15, 2010)

Imagine for a moment the reaction in Washington if the Chinese navy announced that it was planning to hold similar maneuvers right off-shore of New York or Los Angeles.

The Number 1 Provocation – U.S. Military Presence

The biggest provocation of all is the massive presence of U.S. military bases, troop, nuclear and conventional weapons in the region. In 2010, 65 years after the end of World War II, there are scores of U.S. Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine bases in Korea, Okinawa, and all across Japan. The U.S. has provided high tech weaponry of all kinds to Taiwan. Trident submarines, each of which can launch hundreds of nuclear warheads, and nuclear-armed aircraft carriers prowl the eastern Pacific round-the-clock.

This vast deployment of military power halfway around the world far exceeds that of any other country. It and the tens of billions of dollars it burns up every year is justified to the people here as being for “defensive purposes.” But that is just another Big Lie.

The real purpose of this monstrous military machine is to secure and further the interests of the U.S. corporate power and strategic domination in Asia and around the world. It is the enemy of the people of Korea, China, Japan and the people of the United States.

There will be also be emergency anti-war protests on Nov. 27 at 12 Noon in front of the White House, and on Nov. 29 in Los Angeles.
Added to the calendar on Friday Nov 26th, 2010 1:38 PM

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by eastbayguy
Friday Nov 26th, 2010 4:46 PM
Of COURSE we would expect ANSWER to support the Norks. It's what they do, being unrepentant Stalinsts and all.

Just fucking pathetic. North Korea: Where starvation costs no more!
by Three Cheers for Answer
Friday Nov 26th, 2010 11:21 PM
We are lucky to have ANSWER in this area and everyone who can should be at this demonstration. This is an escalation to a possible nuclear war with China, promoted by Democrats and Republicans together. The Democrat-Republican warmongers are raving lunatics destroying the planet for their insatiable greed for profits. Stop the lunatics now!
by miles
Saturday Nov 27th, 2010 11:53 AM
The sky is always falling for people who support Popular Fronts -- cross-class alliances to fight some "Greater Evil" (in this case the US nuke warmongers). The fact that North Korea is arguably the most oppressive nation in the world in terms of their repression of internal dissent (why do you think people from the North flee to China??!!) means nothing to the Stalinist warmongers of ANSWER, the Parties they front (Worker's World, Party for Liberation and Socialism) and others who support North Korea (Freedom Road). The fact that the North's annual military budget is the highest anywhere in the world, while upwards of 2/3 of the civilian population is literally starving means nothing to the Stalinists of ANSWER and Freedom Road. The repressive militarists of North Korea are more likely to wage nuclear warfare on its neighbors than the US or China because they have nothing to lose; they have only prestige to gain from stupid anti-imperialists who still believe that anyone who resists the US and its allies is struggling for some kind of liberation. Like the obscurantist Iranian ruling class, like the misogynist homophobes of Hezbollah, like the anti-proletarian petty bourgeois Chavez in Venezuela, like the pro-capitalist Cuban ruling elite. Fuck that bullshit. Stand against the provocative wargames of the US and China, but stand for the working class and peasants of BOTH Koreas against their respective ruling classes. Fuck ANSWER, fuck Stalinism. Real revolution demands it.
by History Lesson
Saturday Nov 27th, 2010 4:13 PM
From: "The Korean crisis and the threat of a wider war," by Bill Van Auken,
27 November 2010, World Socialist Website at http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/nov2010/pers-n27.shtml
THIS TIME, BOTH CHINA AND THE US HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
Pertinent paragraphs:

This week marks the 60th anniversary of China’s entry in force into the Korean War. The attack carried out by some 300,000 Chinese troops resulted in one of the most stunning defeats suffered by the US military in its entire history.

What followed was a protracted and bloody stalemate that ended only with the armistice declared in July 1953. The war had claimed the lives of more than four million people, the vast majority of them Korean civilians.

Six decades after US and Chinese troops waged bitter hand-to-hand combat south of the Yalu River, tensions on the Korean peninsula are arguably at their highest since the end of the Korean War. They are being fed by and are in turn exacerbating great power conflicts between Washington and Beijing.

The arrival in the Yellow Sea this weekend of a naval battle group led by the US nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, the USS George Washington, signals another escalation in the current crisis.

The dispatch of the giant warship was announced in the immediate wake of the North Korean shelling Tuesday of the island of Yeonpyeong, killing two South Korean marines and two construction workers.

North Korea has said that its bombardment was in response to shells fired into its territorial waters by the South Korean military during war games held only a few miles from the North’s coastline. South Korea launched a retaliatory barrage that it claimed inflicted significant damage, but no casualty reports have been issued in the North. Now new war games—this time with a massive US component—create the conditions for another clash.

Incendiary rhetoric has accompanied the crisis on both sides of Korea’s demilitarized zone. On Friday, North Korea denounced the planned joint US-South Korean exercises as a provocation and warned, “The situation on the Korean peninsula is inching closer to the brink of war.”

In the South, the government replaced its defense minister with a former chairman of the military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff and announced the adoption of new rules of engagement that would allow the military to respond with disproportionate force to attacks from the North. The garrison on Yeonpyeong (just seven miles from the North Korean coast), meanwhile, has been reinforced with more troops and heavy weapons.

Right-wing legislators, meanwhile have denounced the government of President Lee Myung-bak for failing to take more aggressive action, including the use of air strikes, against the North.

Lee and his Grand National Party (GNP), the party of the former military dictatorships that ruled South Korea with US support, came into office promising a hard-line stance toward North Korea. Its cutting off of aid and rejection of the “Sunshine Policy,” through which previous South Korean governments sought reconciliation via investments and aid, have played a significant role in provoking the escalating conflict. Now Lee is under pressure from his own supporters and elements within the military to make good on his hard-line rhetoric.

The potential for a catastrophic confrontation on the Korean peninsula is high. It is difficult to imagine another armed confrontation not provoking a major retaliation by the South Korean military.

What makes the situation all the more fraught with danger is the way in which it is being exploited by Washington to pursue its own strategic aims in the region, particularly vis-à-vis China.

US officials have acknowledged that the dispatch of the USS Washington and its accompanying destroyers and other escort ships to the Yellow Sea is aimed as much, if not more, at China as at North Korea.

In the wake of the world capitalist financial meltdown, geostrategic offensive has been coupled with increasingly aggressive demands for Chinese currency revaluations and trade concessions.

Fundamentally, the growing US-China tensions are rooted in deep-going shifts in the world economy and the global balance of forces: China’s rise to the position of the world’s second-largest economy, eclipsing Japan, on the one hand, and the relative economic decline of US imperialism, combined with its growing use of military force, on the other.

This conflict threatens to turn Northeast Asia and the entire planet into a tinderbox. Much as in the period preceding the First World War, seemingly isolated regional confrontations between minor powers have the potential of precipitating a global conflagration, this time between nuclear-armed adversaries.

Such a catastrophe can be prevented only through the political mobilization of the international working class in the struggle for socialism.
by miles
Saturday Nov 27th, 2010 4:49 PM
"[any] catastrophe can be prevented only through the political mobilization of the international working class in the struggle for socialism."

That's the Stalinist answer for everything. Anyone with half a brain sees right through this apologia for state capitalism, a vast network of secret police, and the active stifling of any manifestation of proletarian self-activity. Fuck off.
by read this fool
Saturday Nov 27th, 2010 5:52 PM
fuck north Korea and china's totalitarian "communist" governments and all nuclear weapons. read up on what north Korea is doing with there state of the art nuclear faculty capable of making depleted uranium and nuclear weapons that they will with out a doubt use.
you answer people are pathetic and probably would have protested against ww2 with your picket signs and peaceful bullshit.
yea America is fucked up but some things need to be done and a lot of progress has happened over the years not anuf in my eyes but still

north Korea's leader is not a stable person he is fucking insane don't defend that low life peace of shit who has committed too many to count horrible acts against human rights. look at there prison system, look how they treat there people. don't just listen to liberal media look at both sides get the real facts, reserch


peace is not always an option almost never has been i wish it was but its not its the world we live in deal with it and fight for what you believe in but not every god dam thing that you want to its like your addicted to protesting. i did not see answer in the streets of Pittsburgh, Oakland, Denver, the twin citys, Toronto, Copenhagen when we needed you you back off every time when the going got tuff just like green peace and peta

this is coming from a paramedic and a political science and history major who is also a free lance conflict zone photo journalist who has been to Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, and every g20, g8, political and environmental summit since 2007

by FedUp !
Saturday Nov 27th, 2010 8:05 PM
This is not about ANSWER. This is about a protest. Someone had to organize it. If you don't like ANSWER, then stay home, don't go to the protest or organize your own protest. It's that simple.

Most of the comments here are like what I read on corporate sites from the rabid right. The right wing is trying to saturate and take over all websites, including this one from the looks of things. Some of what they write about North Korea sounds like the same spew and pack of lies we were told about Iraq and why that needed to be taken over and terrorized with a "shock & awe" killing thousands and thousands of innocent people for the PNAC agenda. We all know how Iraq turned out. A damned mess to this day. The dysfunctional people of the right wing won't be content until the capitalist D and R Machine picks fights with every nation on the planet. We're going to get our ass kicked and rightly so if we take on North Korea. How many more wars do we need Mr Change we can believe in? And where the hell do you plan to get the money for them?

Why is it that the U.S. and SOME other nations are allowed to have nuclear weapons, but North Korea can't? Who are we to tell other nations what they can and cannot have? How arrogant! The U.S. is one of the most hypocritical nations on the planet. Look at North Korea's record on invading other nations, compared to the invasive and belligerent U.S. The U.S. is the #1 terrorist nation on the planet followed by Israel. How many nuclear weapons has North Korea used on other nations? None. The U.S. is the only nation to have used nuclear weapons on a civilian population and is the largest exporter of weapons to other nation.

BBC has an article about it:

North Korea warning over South Korea-US military drill
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11855162

by Had enough
Sunday Nov 28th, 2010 1:24 AM
The foul mouth illiterates attacking our peace movement apparently have no concept of the stupidity of the US government's warmongering in Asia and its effect on the population that is closest to Asia, namely those of us who live on the Pacific Coast. California's population is 38 million, of whom 12% are Asian American or 4.5 million people, a little more than half of the nation's Asian American population. Over 1 million people of Korean ancestry and over 1 million people of Chinese ancestry live in California. Like the rest of us, the Asian American population is primarily in the urban areas. They are also very high percentages of the university population, being 46% at UC Berkeley, 40% at UCLA, 29% at San Francisco State, 40% at City College of San Francisco, and so forth. The State of Washington and Oregon also have signicant Asian American populations. Attacks on China and North Korea are not viewed favorably in these communities, and they are all voting communities, having a high level of education. The memory of the illegal round-up of Japanese Americans in 1942 by that good Democrat Roosevelt is very strong and increases the horror of war by the US in Asia among Asian Americans. US imperialism is not capable of doing anything good in the world and no decent person can support its heinous actions. Everyone who can be at this demonstration should make it a top priority to be there.
by miles
Sunday Nov 28th, 2010 9:48 AM
Look Fed up, if you were actually paying attention, you'd see that nothing I have said would ever be said by a right-winger. I am for a self-organized (i.e. without a vanguard party) working class (which includes peasants and poor people) revolution to abolish private property (capitalism) and the state (all states, not just the ones I happen to dislike more intensely). There's nothing remotely right-wing about that. So take your Cold War dualistic polarities and cross-class alliances (Popular Fronts) and pro-Stalinist meanderings and shove em.

And to the previous poster, if you think that the uncritical support ANSWER and its satellite groups have for North Korea constitutes something approximating a "peace movement" then you are not paying attention either. North Korea has one of the most bloated (in terms of ratio to men in uniform to the civilian population) military infrastructures in the world, with military spending and preparedness (if not outright war mobilization) among the highest anywhere. Supporting that kind of situation is not "peace" other than in the most Orwellian sense. Get a clue.
by Stop Doing Damage Control For Democrats
Sunday Nov 28th, 2010 9:53 AM
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One of the interesting things about the local anti-war protests particularly those called by Answer/PSL and even the recent protest against US imperialist moves against North Korea and China is the failure to go after the war mongers here in the bay area like Pelosi and Feinstein. These Democratic party war criminals have pushed full funding for the US military empire and have backed every US military operation in the world yet these politicians usually are unmentioned at most of these anti-war rallies. The failure to go after the war criminals in our midst shows the political disconnect and political weakness of those who say they oppose US imperialism. Maybe the next time they call a protest do it at Pelosi's house in Pacific Heights but that might be too radical.
by David Roknich
Sunday Nov 28th, 2010 10:47 AM
If you had the brains and courage you would take your "protest" to Pyongyang. Get a clue.
by Native San Franciscan
Sunday Nov 28th, 2010 11:08 AM
PUBLICITY AND FUNDRAISING DEPTS OF THE PEACE MOVEMENT, PLEASE NOTE:
In addition to the above figures, you should also note that San Francisco is probably 50% Asian American, mostly Chinese. And 60% of the students at Lowell High School, the public school with an academic entrance test, are Asian American. I strongly suggest that the hat be passed at this rally as the support from the people of San Francisco as well as many visitors will be tremendous. We saw the huge outpouring of support for China from the Chinese American community when the CIA-Tibet crowd tried to desecrate the Olympic torch and we will see the same again when the capitalist class, this time led by a Democrat, Obama, tries to attack China. And all you possible candidates for mayor, doing stupid, reactionary things like attacking China by supporting the separation of oil-rich Tibet from China, which has been part of China for over 700 years and will remain so forever, guarantees that you cannot be mayor of San Francisco. That certainly ends any possibility of Chris Daly being mayor. As to demonstrating anywhere, demonstrations are best held where there is a maximum number of people both for outreach and for organizing. Demonstrations are by definition voting with our feet. If the rally is big enough, we can have a march. I guarantee you, a march opposing US attacks on China will be warmly applauded all over San Francisco, for a change. You can be sure the Democratic Party will be criticized, starting first and foremost with Obama, and no Democratic politician will show their face at this rally. After all, they are all busy, with the Republicans, supporting the CIA-Tibet oil profiteering racket.
Here are some other figures of Chinese American population, demonstrating that Obama's stupid attack on China is a guarantee that the peace movement will be bigger and better than ever:
(Note, the Census figures are for 2000 for the Chinese-American population, so you can add a few points, and for cities like San Francisco, at least double the figure plus a little more for the other Asian-American populations)

Monterey Park 42%
San Marino 40%
Arcadia 34%
San Gabriel 33%
East San Gabriel 28%
Cupertino 23%
Alhambra 33%
Rosemead 30%
Rowland Heights 30%
Walnut 28%
Temple City 28%
Hacienda Heights 22%
San Francisco 20%
Diamond Bar 18%
Millbrae 16%
Foster City 16%
Cerritos 15%
Fremont 14%
Daly City 13%
Albany 13%
Milpitas 13%
El Cerrito 13%
Piedmont 11%
Emeryville 10%
San Leandro 10%
El Monte 10%
Irvine 10%
Sunnyvale 9%
Union City 8%
Oakland 8%
Berkeley 8%
San Jose 6%
Sacramento 5%
San Diego 3%
Los Angeles 2%

More on Chinese American population in the State of Washington, also on the Pacific Coast, may be found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_significant_Chinese_American_populations

THREE CHEERS FOR ANSWER AND BE AT THE DEMONSTRATION IF YOU CAN POSSIBLY GET THERE. You will finally see a warm embrace from everyone who walks by, as no matter what their politics, people of Chinese and Korean ancestry respect their ancestral homeland and oppose any attacks on China and Korea. For those of us who have been attending peace marches in San Francisco for 60 years, this is a major milestone. As you blow kisses with one hand to the San Francisco population on the peace march, be sure to have a collection bucket in the other outreached hand. This will certainly help put an end to the Democratic-Republican Party in San Francisco!

by David Roknich
Sunday Nov 28th, 2010 10:37 PM
this is completely unsubstantiated rhetoric, even the part about Tibet being "oil rich"
the only fact provided is the population data.

Who is ANSWER? I do not see one name on their site.
by ?
Monday Nov 29th, 2010 2:40 AM
Who is David Roknich? Is he the austerity candidate for mayor of Galeburg, Illinois at
http://www.galesburg.com/news/local_elections/x599205294/Mayoral-candidate-David-Roknich and http://roknich.org/ and http://nowaitweb.com/

Whoever this illiterate is, he did not bother to read the announcement where it clearly states ANSWER is sponsoring this event. He also does not live in California because he would know without reading any statistics that Asian Americans are a significant and growing sector of the population in California, and in San Francisco, which has always been a center of Chinese-American population since the 19th century, Asian Americans are easily 50% of the population. And here is more on oil and other minerals in Tibet:
"The Tibet Card" by Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich, 3/27/08 at
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8462
and
Alexander’s Gas and Oil Connections, 11/11/04, “Qiangtang Basin in Tibet estimated to Hold Oil and Gas Reserves
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/nts44532.htm

by David Roknich
Monday Nov 29th, 2010 1:39 PM
I lived on the coast for almost a decade, that shouldn't matter regarding my credentials to speak on issues, and I use my name when I do.

So now the only straight facts presented by the anonymous failures above are the population statistics.
According to the Asian press, in both Korea and China, only about 2 dozen protesters showed up in Seoul for a rally similar to the one they are trying to organize.

South Korea has been pushing their leaders to retaliate for the Chenoa incident, where the North Koreans murdered 46 Koreans in a torpedo attack they still won't admit - in spite of an investigation by China and the UN that detaermined that the torpedo was indeed a North Korean weapon, and fired from a North Korean vessle.

North Korea recently murdered 2 civilians, and left 1500 homeless in a sensless attack on a civilian settlement in South Korean territory. China has chastised them for this on China's official information portal.

North Korea has 1 million troops armed with chemical weapons stationed within a hour's drive of Seoul, and 2 years ago withdrew from the conditions of the 1953 armistice agreement.

China does not condone their behavior, niether does the rest of Asia.

There have been to many attempts to derail and dissipate the Peace Movement and I predict this one will be largely igmored.

Chimese saying:
"You can whitewash a crow, but it won't last"

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