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An Open Letter to Those who voted No on Prop K
An Open Letter to Those who voted No on Prop K
I don’t live in San Francisco. I don’t even live in California. I live in one of those traditionally, until last eve, red states. Republican, moral right, conservative red. I also happen to be a sex worker. Now, where I live? Something even like Prop K on a ballot? Well, that’s like a kid who has long since known the myths of childhood still believing in the tooth fairy. I’d expect a Prop K on my ballot the same way I’d expect a couple bucks under my pillow for a lost molar at age 40. However, even seeing a Prop K? Anywhere? Well, that made me want to believe. It gave me, and countless other sex workers out there, in and out of San Francisco, some sort of hope. It gave us this crazy idea that maybe, just maybe, we counted as humans to the rest of you, that we mattered, even just a little bit, to the rest of you.
Those of you who voted no, and those of you who campaigned for others to vote no, and those of you who claim to care about us, make book deals and educational credentials off of us and convinced others to vote no…well, you’ve proven that hope was ill-fated and you do not care, and that no matter what we, actual sex workers, say or do or plead for, we don’t matter, not even a little bit, to you. We don’t count as humans the way you do.
Prop K did not making trafficking legal. Prop K did not make the sexual abuse, rape, or exploitation of minors legal. Those things are and would have remained illegal. Prop K would not have ended sex worker outreach or exit programs. Yet those were the arguments you used to shoot down Prop K. You worried about your precious neighborhoods, which apparently mean more to you than the lives of sex workers and prostituted people. You used the lives and stories of the very people you then threw to the lions to make your case and defeat something that would have meant so much to all of us, even those of us who live in places where things like Prop K are just a fanciful dream.
And what has your no vote done? Well, people: women, men, boys, girls, of all colors, of all sexual orientations, of all ages, cis and transgender, will still be involved in prostitution. In homes, in hotels, in cars, in massage parlors, in alleys, in clubs, everywhere. The sex trade will continue on, just as it always has. Whether there by choice, or by force, or because there are no other options, people of all kinds will still be selling sex, and people will still be buying it. You know it, and I know it. However, thanks to you, when a young woman is raped, when a young man is beaten, when any of these people get cut up, sodomized, violated, abused, mutilated, harassed, tortured or robbed, they will still have no where to go. They will still fear the law; they will still carry, along with the stigma of being a whore, the stigma of being a criminal. Their murders will still be written up with the tag NHI (No Humans Involved). You have not helped these people, why yes, real live human beings with thoughts, dreams and emotions just like you, at all. You’ve only hurt and marginalized them further.
Your exit programs and assistance- for those who even want such things- includes arrests, jail time and criminal records, which are so helpful when trying to find a legitimate job. Your concern includes relegating these people to the shadows, after all, if you don’t see them in your little neighborhoods they don’t exist, right? Your vote has insured these people do not have the same rights and protections that you do; they do not have the same status as human beings as you do. Someone mugs you, beats you, stabs you, rapes you, well, you can go to the police and look for justice. Your no vote makes that a dream, a myth, much like the tooth fairy, for sex workers. So tonight, when a sex worker, when many sex workers, get abused, raped, beaten or robbed and have no place to go, out of fear, out of dehumanization, out of criminalization, I hope you are happy. I hope you are satisfied with yourself. Actually, I hope you have the same kind of nightmares those sex workers have, that is, if they survive. You live in fear for your neighborhoods? We live in fear for our lives, our liberty, and our pursuit of happiness. Things you people take for granted.
And whom did you listen to when making your decision to vote no? Your pastors? Your politicians? Anti-Prostitution academics? Well, pastors and politicians have wonderful records with staying away from sex workers themselves now, don’t they? Anti-Prostitution academics whore us out for their own reasons and profit from our labor. All of these people make money and build credentials off of us. My question is did you listen to any sex workers? Did you wonder, for a second, what they wanted? What they needed? What they supported? Did you ponder them for a second; do you even care about them at all? Do they even count as humans to you? Your vote says otherwise.
But trust me when I say this, you, who worry about your neighborhoods and vote no and do not care at all…somewhere, sometime, in your life, you know, will know or have known a sex worker, someone who does, or has done, what you’ve decided deserves to remain criminalized. Look around you. We’re out there, and we are no less human or deserving of legal rights than you are.
But also know this: Even all the way out here in that generally red state, I still want to believe. I want to think that maybe one day people will see sex workers of all kinds as people too. We’ll also continue to fight for that, if we have to make you see us as such, then so be it. This fight isn’t over yet.
So, those of you who voted no? Know that. You may not see us when you don’t want to, but we do exist, and we’re not done with this yet. Not by a long shot.
Sincerely-
Renegade Evolution
Those of you who voted no, and those of you who campaigned for others to vote no, and those of you who claim to care about us, make book deals and educational credentials off of us and convinced others to vote no…well, you’ve proven that hope was ill-fated and you do not care, and that no matter what we, actual sex workers, say or do or plead for, we don’t matter, not even a little bit, to you. We don’t count as humans the way you do.
Prop K did not making trafficking legal. Prop K did not make the sexual abuse, rape, or exploitation of minors legal. Those things are and would have remained illegal. Prop K would not have ended sex worker outreach or exit programs. Yet those were the arguments you used to shoot down Prop K. You worried about your precious neighborhoods, which apparently mean more to you than the lives of sex workers and prostituted people. You used the lives and stories of the very people you then threw to the lions to make your case and defeat something that would have meant so much to all of us, even those of us who live in places where things like Prop K are just a fanciful dream.
And what has your no vote done? Well, people: women, men, boys, girls, of all colors, of all sexual orientations, of all ages, cis and transgender, will still be involved in prostitution. In homes, in hotels, in cars, in massage parlors, in alleys, in clubs, everywhere. The sex trade will continue on, just as it always has. Whether there by choice, or by force, or because there are no other options, people of all kinds will still be selling sex, and people will still be buying it. You know it, and I know it. However, thanks to you, when a young woman is raped, when a young man is beaten, when any of these people get cut up, sodomized, violated, abused, mutilated, harassed, tortured or robbed, they will still have no where to go. They will still fear the law; they will still carry, along with the stigma of being a whore, the stigma of being a criminal. Their murders will still be written up with the tag NHI (No Humans Involved). You have not helped these people, why yes, real live human beings with thoughts, dreams and emotions just like you, at all. You’ve only hurt and marginalized them further.
Your exit programs and assistance- for those who even want such things- includes arrests, jail time and criminal records, which are so helpful when trying to find a legitimate job. Your concern includes relegating these people to the shadows, after all, if you don’t see them in your little neighborhoods they don’t exist, right? Your vote has insured these people do not have the same rights and protections that you do; they do not have the same status as human beings as you do. Someone mugs you, beats you, stabs you, rapes you, well, you can go to the police and look for justice. Your no vote makes that a dream, a myth, much like the tooth fairy, for sex workers. So tonight, when a sex worker, when many sex workers, get abused, raped, beaten or robbed and have no place to go, out of fear, out of dehumanization, out of criminalization, I hope you are happy. I hope you are satisfied with yourself. Actually, I hope you have the same kind of nightmares those sex workers have, that is, if they survive. You live in fear for your neighborhoods? We live in fear for our lives, our liberty, and our pursuit of happiness. Things you people take for granted.
And whom did you listen to when making your decision to vote no? Your pastors? Your politicians? Anti-Prostitution academics? Well, pastors and politicians have wonderful records with staying away from sex workers themselves now, don’t they? Anti-Prostitution academics whore us out for their own reasons and profit from our labor. All of these people make money and build credentials off of us. My question is did you listen to any sex workers? Did you wonder, for a second, what they wanted? What they needed? What they supported? Did you ponder them for a second; do you even care about them at all? Do they even count as humans to you? Your vote says otherwise.
But trust me when I say this, you, who worry about your neighborhoods and vote no and do not care at all…somewhere, sometime, in your life, you know, will know or have known a sex worker, someone who does, or has done, what you’ve decided deserves to remain criminalized. Look around you. We’re out there, and we are no less human or deserving of legal rights than you are.
But also know this: Even all the way out here in that generally red state, I still want to believe. I want to think that maybe one day people will see sex workers of all kinds as people too. We’ll also continue to fight for that, if we have to make you see us as such, then so be it. This fight isn’t over yet.
So, those of you who voted no? Know that. You may not see us when you don’t want to, but we do exist, and we’re not done with this yet. Not by a long shot.
Sincerely-
Renegade Evolution
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thank you for putting this message out there. i hope it educates someone about the reality of being a sex worker. this is an issue of the quality of those lives. sex workers are human beings a like everyone else who work for a living. you point out that sex workers walk amongst the rest of society. we are part of it whether they see us or not. i vow to fight with you for prop k and against the anti- prostitution pledge or any anti-prostitution policy count me in with the renegade evolution!
the lives of sex workers matter!
the lives of sex workers matter!
For more information:
http://www.thebiz-meeting.blogspot.com
I watched Proposition K from here in the UK. I was always hopeful that San Francisco would look towards helping is sex workers as it has done with its gay community. This would have decriminalized sex work and allowed sex workers more protection from abuse. Unfortunately the police and mayor did not see it that way, and the residents of the city were not convinced. A great well fare opportunity has been lost. Renegade Evolution makes some excellent points, there is nothing I can disagree with.
San Francisco sex workers have lost out in this, and I believe all residents of that city have also lost out. Sex work will never go away, and decriminalising the work will make it easier to leave, and will make it less obtrusive.
I speak as someone who has visited SF, but lives in Edinburgh Scotland. Presently prostitution is legal in the United Kingdom, but brothel keeping, street work is illegal. In Edinburgh brothels are licensed by the Local Authority, though they are in law illegal, they are visited by the local police and prostitution out reach workers.
The result is very little street prostitution in that city compared with Glasgow where the authorities close down and prosecute the brothel owners. There is very little abuse and trafficking. Where there is trafficking, its not in the licensed brothels but in unlicensed flats. These get raided and closed down and successful prosecutions brought against the abusers. Glasgow also sees far more murders and rapes of prostitutes than does Edinburgh. Two cities no more than 50 miles apart with totally different outlooks on prostitution.
The brothels exist all over Edinburgh in the centre and are discreet causing no disruption to residents or businesses.
Even in this almost ideal world, there are people out there trying to close this industry down. Why? It not harming anyone. It is consenting sex between adults for a payment. The brothels are drug free, and trafficking free. Outreach organisations have access to the women, and those wanting to leave can be helped if that's what they want.
If a women is trafficked into a 'legal' brothel by an outside agency (pimp, boy friend), then the brothel owners and the other prostitutes will see this and report it. This trafficking does happen, and the ability of the other prostitutes to report their fears is a great safety net. Once all this becomes illegal you will see a horrific rise in abuse.
The legislation in Scotland, made penalties for street prostitution and for kerb crawlers, (Johns) far more expensive last year. This has been enforced in Edinburgh with the result street work now occurs in residential areas, and attacks on street prostitutes has doubled in that city in the year. Take a look at the Scottish outreach website http://www.scot-pep.org.uk/
Unfortunately there are large forces battling prostitution, these people equate prostitution and trafficking. These people do not understand why women and men become prostitutes, these people say they want to save prostitutes from abuse, but do they ever actually speak and listen to prostitutes.
Sex workers from San Francisco keep up your fight, don't lose heart. We our selves in the UK have a large fight before us keeping some of the freedoms we have in sex work. Not ideal freedoms as in New Zealand though.
San Francisco sex workers have lost out in this, and I believe all residents of that city have also lost out. Sex work will never go away, and decriminalising the work will make it easier to leave, and will make it less obtrusive.
I speak as someone who has visited SF, but lives in Edinburgh Scotland. Presently prostitution is legal in the United Kingdom, but brothel keeping, street work is illegal. In Edinburgh brothels are licensed by the Local Authority, though they are in law illegal, they are visited by the local police and prostitution out reach workers.
The result is very little street prostitution in that city compared with Glasgow where the authorities close down and prosecute the brothel owners. There is very little abuse and trafficking. Where there is trafficking, its not in the licensed brothels but in unlicensed flats. These get raided and closed down and successful prosecutions brought against the abusers. Glasgow also sees far more murders and rapes of prostitutes than does Edinburgh. Two cities no more than 50 miles apart with totally different outlooks on prostitution.
The brothels exist all over Edinburgh in the centre and are discreet causing no disruption to residents or businesses.
Even in this almost ideal world, there are people out there trying to close this industry down. Why? It not harming anyone. It is consenting sex between adults for a payment. The brothels are drug free, and trafficking free. Outreach organisations have access to the women, and those wanting to leave can be helped if that's what they want.
If a women is trafficked into a 'legal' brothel by an outside agency (pimp, boy friend), then the brothel owners and the other prostitutes will see this and report it. This trafficking does happen, and the ability of the other prostitutes to report their fears is a great safety net. Once all this becomes illegal you will see a horrific rise in abuse.
The legislation in Scotland, made penalties for street prostitution and for kerb crawlers, (Johns) far more expensive last year. This has been enforced in Edinburgh with the result street work now occurs in residential areas, and attacks on street prostitutes has doubled in that city in the year. Take a look at the Scottish outreach website http://www.scot-pep.org.uk/
Unfortunately there are large forces battling prostitution, these people equate prostitution and trafficking. These people do not understand why women and men become prostitutes, these people say they want to save prostitutes from abuse, but do they ever actually speak and listen to prostitutes.
Sex workers from San Francisco keep up your fight, don't lose heart. We our selves in the UK have a large fight before us keeping some of the freedoms we have in sex work. Not ideal freedoms as in New Zealand though.
For more information:
http://www.selectanescort.com
SF just reelected a woman to Congress, Nancy Pelosi, who knew about torture and did nothing. Knew about illegal wiretapping and did nothing. Gave Bush all the funds he needed for the Iraq war and took impeachment off the table.
San Francisco is a machine politics town which votes tradionalist democratic ballot not a progressive ballot. It is a strange city - many progressive ideas start there but it is still very, very traditional and very, very conservative.
San Francisco is a machine politics town which votes tradionalist democratic ballot not a progressive ballot. It is a strange city - many progressive ideas start there but it is still very, very traditional and very, very conservative.
Hi Renegade, thanks for sharing your thoughts. It's really cool that you spoke from the heart. Well, I guess I hope that I can help you understand where we're coming from on this. Look, of course we agree that prostitutes are human too. We're certainly not out to dehumanize prostitutes. Most people believe that prostitution is morally wrong, and very bad for society, and so of course we really can't legitimize it. We'd like to see you get out, especially if you want to. Sure, we know that prostitution is always going to exist, and yeah we'll be more-or-less tolerant because we know that after all you're a regular human being just in a bad situation. But if you do get caught, we can't take away the punishment or the criminal record. That's just law and order, it's what's fair for everybody. In some ways, what you do is a lot like drug dealing. You do something that most people feel is very detrimental to society, you make big cash, you make it quick, but you take big risks. What the prostitutes are asking for with proposition K is essentially to take away that risk. Of course we can't do that, because the punishment for the crime is what we rely upon to try to cut down on the crime rate. It's kind of what makes us feel like it's fair for you to choose to be a prostitute if you want to, even though we don't agree with your choice. After all, you're the one taking the risk of jail, fines, criminal record, etc. We don't look at you as less than human. Sure, you might get arrested and jailed or whatever, but it's nothing personal against you at all. I know that a big complaint we're hearing is that prostitutes are abused and they feel like they have no recourse. We believe unfortunately that it's probably fairly true, what you girls are saying. Believe me, we don't want to see you abused. Honestly though, the best thing you can do is take yourself out of that environment, because if you get away from street crime, really you're a lot less likely to be raped or mugged or whatever happens to you girls out there. Besides that, I guess the next best thing you can do is go to the police for help. Hopefully if you have a serious crime to report, they'll look primarily at you as a victim of a serious crime and won't give you too much trouble about being a prostitute. Maybe not though, maybe they'll arrest you and put you in jail - I don't know. If somebody did you really wrong though, it'd be worth it to go to the police anyhow, wouldn't it? I guess that's mostly all I wanted to say. I just want you to know that yeah we recognize that you girls are real people, maybe who have made some mistakes or bad choices, and who are in a really bad situation. We'd like to help you out of the situation if possible, but if you want to stay in it, well I guess we're willing to sort of accept that choice. It's your body and your life. But when you're caught, well of course there's going to be consequences. We can't take away the legal sting, I mean after all, you're a criminal. And out there on the streets, yeah you're at great bodily risk too. If you're a big risk taker, there's big monetary rewards, which you enjoy. If you don't like those odds, we'll definitely help you back into something above board. I mean you can get some loans and go to community college, or whatever. There's so much opportunity out there. After all, this is still America. You can pretty much do whatever you want here. Even if you want to continue being a prostitute, you can probably pretty-much get away with it if you're willing to be in and out of jail frequently and deal with the rough and tumble that comes along with a street lifestyle. But realistically there's nothing we can do to take the rough and tumble part out of the street crime lifestyle, it just comes with the territory, and as a society we can't afford to say that prostitution is okay, or allow you to do it without being punished whenever you're caught. I hope you understand at least where we're coming from.
You make some good points, but saying "You girls" is very condescending, Lincoln. Kinda shows where you are coming from. Females 18 and over are WOMEN and that's we are talking about here...women's rights (not underage girls) to take responsibility for what they do with their own bodies.
What an ignorant, condescending, mysoginistic statement made by Lincoln. This is a complete blame-the-victim. It is a completely patronizing response to Renegade Evolution.
Lincoln says we have laws. Well, we USED to have laws against Black people sitting at the same lunch counter as White people, and we got rid of them. And we got rid of them because they were UNJUST.
We have laws against prostitutes, and we NEED to get rid of them because they are UNJUST.
Decriminalize prostitution NOW!!
Lincoln says we have laws. Well, we USED to have laws against Black people sitting at the same lunch counter as White people, and we got rid of them. And we got rid of them because they were UNJUST.
We have laws against prostitutes, and we NEED to get rid of them because they are UNJUST.
Decriminalize prostitution NOW!!
Renegade evolution, Maxine Doogan, and the other prostitution promoters have one message to poor women...JUST SUCK IT. We're poor, we should be grateful for the opportunity to suck it and make money. They think laws should be written for pimps and "high end prostitutes" and the rest of us should just put up with us and our daughters being dragged into prostitution against our will. Well screw them.
We're not all prostitutes and we don't WANT to be prostitutes. But San Francisco's Prop K very clearly said that no laws against prostitution could be upheld. Any pimp that want to force my 15 year old into prostitution, telling her that he will KILL ME, cannot be investigated or prosecuted because it's just a business transaction of sex work and we can't have the cops investigate anything to do with prostiution.
Do you people have any idea what it is like to live with a gang in YOUR neighborhood that insists that ALL the hispanic girls belong to them and will either prostitute or be gang raped? You ever had that happen in YOUR neighborhood? I didn't think so.
I can work like a dog,get myself into community college, try for a better life, and then pimps like Maxine Doogan come along and tell me that the cops won't protect my daughter from the pimps on the corner. We can't go to the cops and complain because the Prop K people say it's just a business transaction and it's none of the cops business.
For the life of me I cannot figure out why our political representatives wont' stand up for us. Sandoval has suddenly dissapeared and won't stand up against Prop K. At least Sophie Maxwell gets it. Maybe that's because it is black and latino girls who will suffer under these prostitution laws whle the nice white "upscale escorts" won't have to live with what we have to live with.
So screw all the pimps who are pushing Prop K down our throats. We're not all whores you junkie pimp. You don't own us or our neighborhood. So you want to support the gangster boy down the street as he tries to turn us into whores. Well we say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're not all prostitutes and we don't WANT to be prostitutes. But San Francisco's Prop K very clearly said that no laws against prostitution could be upheld. Any pimp that want to force my 15 year old into prostitution, telling her that he will KILL ME, cannot be investigated or prosecuted because it's just a business transaction of sex work and we can't have the cops investigate anything to do with prostiution.
Do you people have any idea what it is like to live with a gang in YOUR neighborhood that insists that ALL the hispanic girls belong to them and will either prostitute or be gang raped? You ever had that happen in YOUR neighborhood? I didn't think so.
I can work like a dog,get myself into community college, try for a better life, and then pimps like Maxine Doogan come along and tell me that the cops won't protect my daughter from the pimps on the corner. We can't go to the cops and complain because the Prop K people say it's just a business transaction and it's none of the cops business.
For the life of me I cannot figure out why our political representatives wont' stand up for us. Sandoval has suddenly dissapeared and won't stand up against Prop K. At least Sophie Maxwell gets it. Maybe that's because it is black and latino girls who will suffer under these prostitution laws whle the nice white "upscale escorts" won't have to live with what we have to live with.
So screw all the pimps who are pushing Prop K down our throats. We're not all whores you junkie pimp. You don't own us or our neighborhood. So you want to support the gangster boy down the street as he tries to turn us into whores. Well we say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the Netherlands a measure like propostion K was adopted, but it did not lead to a decrease in violence against sex-workers. The industry stayed in the hands of criminals. The Dutch government is now trying to reverse its course. There are hardly any women at all who do this job of their free will. The blackmail and abuse by pimps and customers is very difficult to prove. Prohibition is the only way to end this form of forced labor.
Poorwoman, Prop K did say the authorities should not enforce laws against prostitution. It also said the authorities SHOULD enforce laws against coercion, extortion, battery, rape and other violent crimes AGAINST sex workers. Prop K was about protection for sex workers.
For more information:
http://www.yesonpropk.org
Proposition K is not about "letting pimps have girls". It's about decriminalizing prostitution. And that means when a pimp beats up a girl, she can go to the police.
And why is it always WHITE ESCORTS? Why is it always WHITE CALL-GIRLS? There are BLACK and LATINO and ASIAN escorts and call-girls. It never, ever seems to occur to people like apoorwoman that high-class call-girls can be anything but white. Geez.
And why is it always WHITE ESCORTS? Why is it always WHITE CALL-GIRLS? There are BLACK and LATINO and ASIAN escorts and call-girls. It never, ever seems to occur to people like apoorwoman that high-class call-girls can be anything but white. Geez.
The situation in the Netherlands has nothing to do with trafficking. That's just an excuse to kick out the brothels so the real estate can be used for something else. You should do your homework, Sal.
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