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Hypocritical Church of Scientology Says Ban Gay Marriage

by Brandon Walsh
The Church of Scientology which claims to support human rights is supporting California's same sex marriage ban Prop 8. And Scientology, a religion which denies the existence of Jesus Christ, is attempting to use Yes on 8 to curry favor with conservative Christian groups
The Church of Scientology consistently claims to promote human rights, however those rights do not apply to all. The San Diego branch of Scientology has recently joined forces with other conservative fundamentalist groups to oppose same-sex marriage in California.

"It's a way for Scientology to gain legitimacy in the eyes of other churches," explains one religious expert who prefers to remain anonymous. "This is deceptive, in that at the upper levels Scientology denies the existence of Jesus Christ. These Christian churches are being deceived."

The Church of Scientology has campaigned publicly to show they support human rights and civil liberties by creating two front groups, Youth for Human Rights (YHR) and the International Foundation for Human Rights and Tolerance (IHFRT). Both loudly promote human rights and purport to support the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights which includes this phrase:


“All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.”

The creed of the Church of Scientology states in part: "We of the Church believe: That all men of whatever race, color or creed were created with equal rights; That all men have inalienable rights to their own religious practices and their performance… That all men have inalienable rights to their own lives…"

"Opposing the rights of a couple, regardless of their genders, to join in a legal union and have the same rights as others actually opposes the very thing Scientology claims to uphold," continues the expert, who declines to be named out of concerns of retaliation by Scientology.

Even more disturbingly, in a recent video a well know Scientology operative, Tim Armer, was asked on video how he felt about Scientology's founder L. Ron Hubbard stating that homosexuals should be killed. "Fine, " replied Armer, "Fine." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YSHXJNV0D8

The interviewer was referring to a passage from The Scientology text Science of Survival in which Hubbard wrote that sexual deviants, into which he grouped homosexuals, should be "removed from society quietly and without remorse" if Scientology's version of reparative therapy, known as auditing, did not work to "cure" the homosexual. Hubbard wrote, and Scientologists believe, that homosexuals are part of a group that they consider to be "unsaveable.”

In July masked internet civil rights activists calling themselves Anonymous marched in San Diego's Pride Parade to alert the public and media about Scientology's anti-gay agenda. Says one Anonymous who participated in the parade, "Civil rights are just that, and marriage is a civil function. That marriage license is a piece of paper mandated by the state, and should not be denied to anyone. This right and other civil rights which Scientology wishes to deny citizens are why we protest. And speaking for myself, voting No on 8 sends a message that no church should legislate a state function, and more importantly who we love."

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/21809/anonymous-marches-in-san-diego-pride-parade
http://www.protectmarriage.com/endorsements/churches-endorsing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YSHXJNV0D8
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by Louanne
Hi, the Church of Scientology does not support the same sex marriage ban Prop 8. You omit to give a source and that is probably because THERE IS NONE. Scientology does neither support nor reject Propositions, especially not something that is so not on the Church's radar screen like LGBT issues.

Brandon, this is now the third article you invented. Why are you lying?
Lets not forgot the cult of scientology's other front group which claims to support human rights - CCHR = Citizens Commission on Human Rights.

The unsuspecting public gets suckered into either donating money or volunteering to help this cult of scientology front group. The cult, in turn, gets the publics money and personal information and will start to send them information about their cult and all the "good work" they are doing to try to get them to join their cult. The cult then tries to get money out of our government to support their programs - money that goes directly back to the church. Shame on the cult of scientology.
Gays will have to wait in line to be killed if Scientology comes to power. First come the critics of the church, then the mentally retarded, all psychiatrists and psychologists, media people who have written negative stories or books about the church, anyone who refuses to do Scientology services and anyone who demands that free speech and freedom of religion not be abolished. Then the gays are lined up and exterminated. If you liked the Nazi’s in the 1930s and 40s then you’ll love Scientology.
Hey Louanne,

Check out the URL http://www.protectmarriage.com/endorsements/churches-endorsing
I guess you dont know what all the Churches of Scientology are doing, but the San Diego one is saying YES on 8! Check it out for yourself! You should always check the data before saying something isnt true!

There's a long list of Churches that support the Marriage Ban at that website. Here's a partial list:

Church of the Nazarene
Church of the Rock
Church of Scientology of San Diego
Community Counseling Services, Inc.
Community Christian Alliance Church
Core Christian Fellowship, Murrieta
by Anton Mousse
Louanne, what's the matter, you aren't allowed to click through the links to check the facts? Go check and lern 2 werd clere.

Oh and why was your onw sentence post "Anonymous Owned by Scientology" taken down after getting a bunch of strike thrus? Facts didnt match? Tsk Tsk, Louanne, you are down stat. You must try harder.
by Fredric L. Rice (frice [at] skeptictank.org)
Scientology hates rights, liberties, and freedoms, hates Democracy and the rule of law, hates equality. The Christofascist hate mongers trying to deny people their equal rights under the law here in California are driven by Christian hate and bigotry, but the Scientology crime syndicate is driven by money. The syndicate wants to jump on to the bandwagon of hate in an attempt to appear to be a legitimate hate-filled religion when in fact it's just a money-driven criminal enterprise.

My opinions only and only my opinions.
by Louanne
I bet an ice cream that the San Diego Church does not know that they are on this list.

I bet another ice cream that thorough research will determine that an Anonymous asshole pretended to be from the Church and put its name on the list. Why? Well, that's obvious, isn't it? So bold-lie articles like this can be written.
by David Davidson
@ Louanne
Hubbard himself advocated for the killing of all gay people. Get your facts straight you plant.
by David Mudkip
Well then, Louanne, it would seem that you owe us some ice cream. Considering Scientology's long history of homophobia ( are you really going to claim that those quotes from Dianetics on pages 122 to 123 aren't in the book or something? Or that Quentin Hubbard wasn't gay and didn't kill himself? Or something similarly unfounded? ) Scientology endorsing Prop 8 is unsuprising, to say the least. Your management probably consideres gays "Illegal PCs", why would they support them?

I'll take two chocolates.
by Leo Venuti (wheatonview [at] aol.com)
Let's not forget that in L. Ron Hubbards book that he is quoted as saying that gays should be quarintined and are sexual perverts and devients..
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