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LBAM the stuff they will unleash on us.
by Undercover Scientist
Monday Oct 15th, 2007 8:22 PM
You must spread the news fast ! Repost all over !!
***Another inert to be familiar with.***
It was in the famous list on Sept. 28, 2007 print edition of the Santa Cruz Sentinel

Methyltrioctylammonium chloride aka - Trioctyl methyl ammonium chloride
Toxicity of Trioctyl methyl ammonium chloride:
Dangerous to the environment
Harmful when swallowed
Irritating to skin
Risk of serious damage to eyes
Very Toxic to aquatic organisms
May cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment
Avoid release in the environment.
Material disposed as hazardous waste


"The commonest and most serious troubles, however, are those affecting the respiratory systems."
by Concerned Commoner Monday Oct 15th, 2007 10:27 PM
The Sentinel actually reported the ingredient to be "tricaprylyl methyl ammonium chloride"... and not "methyltrioctylammonium chloride". However, the EPA website does say that the two are synonymous ( Since I'm not a scientist, for all I know, they could be exactly the same thing. But I thought that this distinction should be pointed out just in case. If they are the same thing, then it's definitely worth examining all the warnings and cautions that are mentioned. Thanks for the info.
§Tricaprylyl Methyl Ammonium Chloride -- Dangers
by Digger Tuesday Oct 16th, 2007 12:47 PM
As "Concerned Commoner pointed out, the two names aren't the same. But the substance with the correct name is just as bad.

By going to, you can read about "tricaprylyl methyl ammonium chloride" and it's risks and safety.


Tricaprylyl Methyl Ammonium Chloride

Here are its "Hazards":
* Harmful
* Dangerous for the environment

Here are its "Risk Statements":
* Harmful if swallowed
* Irritating to the skin
* Risk of serious damage to eyes
* Very Toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment

Here are its "Safety Statements":
* In case of contact with eyes, rinse immediately with plenty of water and seek medical advice
* Wear eye/face protection
* This material and/or its container must be disposed of as hazardous waste
* Avoid release to the environment. Refer to special instructions safety data sheet


And since we're now told that the reported ingredients are "supposedly" wrong, then I suppose there's nothing wrong with listing them all here again. As reported on the front page of The Santa Cruz Sentinel on Sept. 28th:

"According to the EPA, some of the key ingredients are (Z)-11-Tetradecenyl acedtate, 11-Tetradecen-1-ol, acetate, (E)-. Inert Ingredients are water, polyvinyl alcohol, tricaprylyl methyl ammonium chloride, sodium phosphate, and polymethylene polyphenyl isocyanate."
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