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University of Colorado Set To Fire Ward Churchill
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 : So it's a very good bet that the Regents will indeed give Churchill the axe. The only thing that might change their minds is an outpouring of public opinion supporting a professor's right to voice unpopular views.
The Regents' decision is not merely a local affair. It has enormous impact on the whole country. That gives you the right -- and the responsibility -- to let them know what you think. The chair of the University of Colorado Board of Regents is Patricia Hayes. You can write to her at: Patricia.Hayes@cu.edu.
Why should you bother? It's still a rare occasion when a tenured professor is fired because he is an outspoken leftist. But every time a witchhunt is successful, it encourages other right-wingers to go after their favorite target. It brings the next witchhunt closer and increases the odds that it will succeed.
I'm an outspoken leftie professor at the University of Colorado too, so I've got a personal stake in this. Someone once asked me to wear a big button that said, "I am Ward Churchill." I said I'd prefer a button reading, "I am Next." But you never know who will be next. There is nothing very special about Colorado. It can happen anywhere. The witchhunters may be coming to a campus near you. That's one reason the fate of Ward Churchill matters to you.
The visible fallout from the Churchill case -- the future attacks on leftist academics -- is only the tip of the iceberg. The bigger effect is one we'll never see or hear: the silence of all those, on and off campuses, who start censoring themselves, not speaking their minds completely and directly, avoiding controversial topics in their teaching and research, because they see which way the political wind blows.
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The issues are plagiarisms, and also the fact that he wrote articles under pseudonyms, that he later used to provide references for a publication made under his name.
His in fact has no Native American ancestry, and lied. He stated that he was part of a long range reconnaissance squad during Vietnam, when actually he was a truck driver and projectionist.
The man is not ethical, I think it has more to do with his narcissism bringing about his downfall.
His in fact has no Native American ancestry, and lied. He stated that he was part of a long range reconnaissance squad during Vietnam, when actually he was a truck driver and projectionist.
The man is not ethical, I think it has more to do with his narcissism bringing about his downfall.
Churchill also worked with CIA during Iran-Contra, supporting the Miskito indians against the Sandinistas. He is either an obnoxious self-promoter or a provocateur plant meant to discredit the left with moronic statements. Either way, not to be trusted. Plus the above poster is right, he's NOT a real Native American!
i would say for sure , he does have indian ancestry. i know what mixed people look like. for example , i always thought elvis presley looked a little bit indian, turns out he had some dark colored confirmed indian ancestors. a mixed person would recognize those features.
Speaking as an actual "mixed person", I can't really say that I do or don't see it in him. What, because he had long hair? Many Native Americans don't have long hair and wear theirs short. It's a stereotype that they all have long hair. Also, many Native Americans have mixed blood and can look very "white" even though they are a full 50% Native! There are Filipinos and Italians who could be said to look "more Native American" than actual Native Americans if one is going by hair color, facial structure, etc. In other words, stuff like this points out how stupid racism and even notions of "race" are. However, I'm going with the FACTS rather than surface observations on this one: Ward Churchill is not a Native American. Don't you think that the Native tribes that he claims to be a part of would support his contentions? Well, they don't!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Churchill
In 1993, he and other local AIM leaders, including Russell Means, Glen Morris, Bob Robideau, and David Hill, broke with the national AIM leadership, including Dennis Banks and Vernon and Clyde Bellecourt, claiming that all AIM chapters are autonomous. The schism continues, with the national AIM leadership claiming that the local AIM leaders, such as Churchill, are tools of the government which uses them against other American Indians. The leaders of the national AIM organization claim that Churchill has worked in the past as an underground counter-intelligence source for the U.S. government, for example the FBI, and local, non-Indian, police forces, to subvert the national AIM organization. They cite several examples but specifically a 1993 Boulder interview with Jodi Rave, a former columnist for the Denver Post, where Churchill stated that he "was teaching the Rapid City Police Department about the American Indian Movement."[24]
Both of his birth parents are listed as white on the 1930 census, as are all of his other known ancestors on previous censuses and other official documents. [27]
Churchill claims ancestry of three different tribes, Creek[28][29], Cherokee[30], and Metis[31][32] and states that he is an enrolled[33] member of the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians. The Rocky Mountain News investigated and found "no evidence of a single Indian ancestor" [of Churchill's].[34] The Denver Post's genealogical investigation resulted in the same conclusion. Ernestine Berry, who was on the tribe's enrollment committee (Keetoowah) and served on the tribal council for four years, told the The Denver Post: "He (Churchill) was trying to get recognized as an Indian. He could not prove he was an Indian (Cherokee) at all." [35] Moreover, the United Keetoowah Band responded to Churchill's claim by clarifying that he was not an enrolled member, but an honorary associate member (just as former President Bill Clinton was) for few months in 1994. According to tribal chief George Wickliffe, Churchill's claims to Keetowah membership "are deemed fraudulent by the United Keetoowah Band," and that Churchill "could not prove any Cherokee ancestry." [36] According to a statement issued by the Keetowah tribe, Churchill's membership claim after receiving an associate membership "is akin to receiving an honorary doctorate, and then claiming to have received eight years worth of university education." [37]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Churchill
In 1993, he and other local AIM leaders, including Russell Means, Glen Morris, Bob Robideau, and David Hill, broke with the national AIM leadership, including Dennis Banks and Vernon and Clyde Bellecourt, claiming that all AIM chapters are autonomous. The schism continues, with the national AIM leadership claiming that the local AIM leaders, such as Churchill, are tools of the government which uses them against other American Indians. The leaders of the national AIM organization claim that Churchill has worked in the past as an underground counter-intelligence source for the U.S. government, for example the FBI, and local, non-Indian, police forces, to subvert the national AIM organization. They cite several examples but specifically a 1993 Boulder interview with Jodi Rave, a former columnist for the Denver Post, where Churchill stated that he "was teaching the Rapid City Police Department about the American Indian Movement."[24]
Both of his birth parents are listed as white on the 1930 census, as are all of his other known ancestors on previous censuses and other official documents. [27]
Churchill claims ancestry of three different tribes, Creek[28][29], Cherokee[30], and Metis[31][32] and states that he is an enrolled[33] member of the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians. The Rocky Mountain News investigated and found "no evidence of a single Indian ancestor" [of Churchill's].[34] The Denver Post's genealogical investigation resulted in the same conclusion. Ernestine Berry, who was on the tribe's enrollment committee (Keetoowah) and served on the tribal council for four years, told the The Denver Post: "He (Churchill) was trying to get recognized as an Indian. He could not prove he was an Indian (Cherokee) at all." [35] Moreover, the United Keetoowah Band responded to Churchill's claim by clarifying that he was not an enrolled member, but an honorary associate member (just as former President Bill Clinton was) for few months in 1994. According to tribal chief George Wickliffe, Churchill's claims to Keetowah membership "are deemed fraudulent by the United Keetoowah Band," and that Churchill "could not prove any Cherokee ancestry." [36] According to a statement issued by the Keetowah tribe, Churchill's membership claim after receiving an associate membership "is akin to receiving an honorary doctorate, and then claiming to have received eight years worth of university education." [37]
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Ward is part of the movement, whether he has any indigenous blood or not. We should support him.
Why support him? Why support someone who is a LIAR? Why not put that energy to actual Native Americans and their struggles? And, if you read the post above, he ISN'T considered part of the actual American Indian Movement, but runs a schism group that is not considered part of the movement by the actual Native activists! Two other things to keep in mind when considering "what side" Churchill is on: 1) in Vietnam, he was a mobile propagandist, who would drive around a truck showing propaganda films to the troops and 2) one of his first jobs stateside was as an editor for Soldier of Fortune magazine! Some anarchist/leftist...
http://www.indymedia.org/fr/2005/03/870582.shtml
Ken Lawrence Covert Action Writer Exposes Ward/CIA connection!
AIM PART 1 16.Feb.2005 21:07
I confess to having thought that a political introduction was a courtesy inan unsolicited communication. I bear no responsibility for Louis's post of mye-mail on this list, which he then attacked as though I had posted theinformation myself, and some others also have done. Inadvertently, I got under Louis's skin. He professes to relish that as sport when he can inflict it onothers, but turns nasty and irrational when it happens to him.Louis manages to see the clay feet on everyone else's radical heroes, withwhich I concurred generally, and added a few points to his, in a private communication. But the purpose of my e-mail was to note for his benefit, inthe event he had not been aware of it, that Ward Churchill, the hero of his own post, also has clay feet.I wrote as someone who had worked with Ward on a number of projects over a decade's time, always cordially, though in later years our disagreements strained our ability to unite on the political field of struggle.
Ward and I dicussed and debated our differences at his home, his office, at public forums, and on the telephone. When I objected to Ward that his book on Marxism was a caricature, he replied that perhaps it was, but it reported on Marxists as he knew them.By the mid-1980s, Ward regarded CISPES as his main political enemy in Boulder and Denver. I was heavily involved in solidarity work with the FMLN, and sanctuary support, which included speaking/organizing engagements in Colorado. As far as I could tell, Ward's hostility to the FMLN was derivative, because of its political alliance with Sandinista Nicaragua. To my knowledge, no indigenous Salvadorans were oppressed or politically mistreated by the FMLN or by any of its constituent parties. At about that time, Ward condemned the American Indian Movement leadership --specifically Bill Means and Vernon Bellecourt by name -- as stooges of theleft (his words, not mine).
Ward and his supporters set up Colorado AIM to advance their political agenda. So much for Louis's assertion that "There isno other activist/intellectual in the American Indian movement who is more resolutely opposed to capitalism than Ward Churchill."Of necessity, many of us who personally deplored the split in AIM nevertheless were obliged to work politically with Colorado AIM on solidarity issues of great importance. (Louis's vain boast of being the only Marxist supporter of indigenous people and their struggles is so much wind.) In this arena, the culture of machismo cast a pall over much of the work, aswomen were assigned menial tasks but excluded from the circle where decisions were taken. One woman raised a fuss; I concurred with her point; Ward sought to put out the fire, but without implementing change at the top. I hope that things have improved in the decade since.On the national level, Ward and I continued to collaborate on issues of agreement, particularly political repression in the United States. I had developed a considerable body of information on Jill and Gi Shafer, the FBI(and CIA, according to one reporter who interviewed Gi Schafer long afterward)provocateurs at Wounded Knee, much of it learned from Joe Burton, a self-confessed undercover FBI spy who had targeted my work in a small way, but had worked throughout the U.S. and Canada with the Shafers to set up phony communist collectives under FBI control. (Nearly all had Red in the title --Red Star Cadre, Red Sun, Red Collective, and so forth.)
Ward and Ken Tilsen had information on Doug Durham and others who had caused similar damage. Our disagreements were acknowledged with uneasy humor. Ward would call to tease/taunt me -- for example, about his meeting with Brooklyn Rivera andEliott Abrams ("What will our Covert Action friends say about that?" he mocked) and about his barroom encounters with Robert K. Brown. I baited him back ("If Roxanne was bad to rat on her comrades to a HUAC investigator, how can you justify your hat-in-hand meeting with the most enthusiastic war criminal inWashington?").
If anyone knows a better way to function under difficult circumstances, I'm all ears.Louis denies that Ward chose to ally with the CIA, but ended up on the CIA's side by virtue of his support to the Miskito struggle. The latter point istrue, but -- once more for effect -- Ward eventually penned (with Glenn Morris) a political justification for alliance with the CIA, using the Hmong people of Laos as his principal example. If Louis hasn't read the Cultural Survival article, he should read it before he comments further. If he has read it, his postings here are dishonest. Although Louis states that the Miskito alliance with the CIA was a mistake, Ward and Glenn argued the opposite,following the Laotian example.
PART 2 of Ward and the CIA
Ken Lawrence former co-worker of Ward's 16.Feb.2005 21:08
Earlier, at the Boulder anti-apartheid teach-in, Ward had proposed that he and I debate our differences. It was after the CS article appeared that I renewed the proposal to hold a public debate. I asserted the necessity of anti-capitalism and anti-imperialism as the central political ingredients of liberation; Ward and Glenn rejected them. Glenn offered to provide a platform for the debate, which never occurred. After the Sandinista defeat, there was scant political interest in Denver or Boulder, but I still proposed to write and publish it. Ward was willing; unfortunately, our editor was not.In the years since, we have drifted apart, and have not remained in touch.Nevertheless, despite our fierce differences, I have always regarded Ward as a friend and as I reconstructed these events, find that I still do.Now back to the beginning:Ward and I met shortly after he had published his insider account of Soldier of Fortune magazine in the political journal on Africa published at DU, whosetitle I have forgotten. Louis asks for the facts; he should look up that article. I do not have access to my Mississippi archive at this time. Besides those details, which are politically valuable, I asked Ward how he had taken such a revolting job in the first place.
Ward is a professional graphic artist of outstanding talent, as anyone familiar with his work will attest. In an encounter with SoF'sowner/publisher/editor Robert K. Brown, Ward told Brown that his magazine was ugly and amateurish. Brown offered him a job to spruce up and professionalize SoF, which Ward accepted. According to Ward, their political differences wereknown to both (specifically, Ward's association with SDS in the sixties, and Brown's work as a CIA asset), but they both enjoyed the military-macho banter that defined the magazine's culture, and continued to relate on that level even long after Ward had published his kiss-and-tell exposé. This was in the mid-1970s, when both Ward and I were working, in very different political arenas, to thwart CIA mercenary recruitment, in solidarity with Angola and with the Zimbabwe liberation movement.
Any time I was in the vicinity of Denver or Boulder, he helped set up speaking opportunities.As I recall, the last time he did so was in the fall of 1983, shortly before my trip to Nicaragua. Ward and other friends organized several meetings forme, including one at which I was scheduled to debate Brown and Gen. John Singlaub. Their agreed participation could only have been arranged by Ward,but in the end Brown and Singlaub backed out. (Singlaub's secretary attended my talk at UCD, presumably to gather intelligence for her boss.) The closest we came to an actual debate occurred when Brown called a radio talk show that hosted my appearance, with this remark about the previous several weeks' events: "His guys got our guys in Beirut, but our guys got his guys in Grenada."
Part Three of Ward and the CIA
ken Lawrence 16.Feb.2005 21:09
At that time, Ward was warmly encouraging of my visit to Nicaragua as a member of an Oxfam delegation. One person I met at Puerto Cabezas was the then editor of Navajo Times, Mark Trahant (I hope I'm recalling his name correctly), who had toured the entire Atlantic Coast war zone without a Sandinista escort, and wrote his report upon his return. Both of us agreedthat the Sandinistas had made dreadful political mistakes, but that they had recognized this, apologized, and honestly sought to make amends, the results of which were palpable everywhere we went.Another was Roxanne Dunbar, then a Sandinista publicist, whose account did not differ significantly from Trahant's. Meanwhile, the contra Miskitos wered irecting their war efforts against the radical pro-Sandinista Indians,clinics, agricultural co-operatives, and other manifestations of modernity and reconstruction, and torching whole villages (our group visited Sukat Pin after such an attack, and while another was in progress a mile or so away) while seeking allies among the older, traditional leaders. Trahant's serialized Navajo Times report bears study by any radical who wishes to discuss this issue honestly and intelligently.Upon my return, Ward and I had detailed discussions of all this. Ward saidthat he had been asked by Tomás Borge to mediate an accord with the Miskito insurgents, based on the program that Louis professes to have been correct.Initially, Ward agreed, but later changed his position. Although embarrassedby Russ Means's declaration that he was going to Nicaragua "to kill a Sandinista," and his false charge that Borge had ordered the Sandinista army"to shoot the Indians out of the trees like they shoot monkeys," Ward's Colorado AIM backed and publicized the Means/Morris military adventure, which had been funded by the Moonie ultra-right front, CAUSA.That brings me full circle.Having no ability to respond politically to my points, Louis attacked me for reporting my political experiences as an indulgence. Evidently he prefers Web-site Marxism/indigenism derived from the experiences of strangers. My teachers taught that our duty was to join the struggles of workers and oppressed people, and to report on them that they may be propagated. I have done my best to live up to that.With Rosa Luxemburg, I believe that the mistakes of a truly revolutionary proletariat (and of the oppressed) are more valuable and more instructive than the finest decisions of the most excellent central committee. With Antonio Gramsci, I believe that the greatest barrier to socialist revolution is notthe armed might of the state and the ruling class -- though that is capitalism's ultimate prop, after the initial barrier is breached -- but rather the ruling class culture and world view that has been internalized by workers and oppressed people.As for the extended narrative I have presented here, no one needs to take myword for anything. Though Ward and I have not spoken in many years, it would surprise me if he would fail to verify my factual account. To be sure, hewould have a robustly different political perspective on these events, andperhaps on his movement's strategy. Others who participated in many of these struggles include such Colorado activists as Larry Mosqueda (no longer there,but still engaged in struggle), Priscilla Falcon, Ricardo Romero, Kiko Martinez, Lowell May, Elaine Heinrichs, and Jim and Jenny van der Wall.Perhaps even Louis will eventually be able to manage the more complex,contradictory, and ambiguous nuances of real revolutionary struggle, after his next political conversion. He seems to have defined his political career by those phases, which accounts for his knee-jerk retort to my simile of Trotskyism. Lest he get away with that remark, I close with this: By the timeC.L.R. James came to dwell in Chicago, where I lived and worked in the 1960s,the term Troskyist was as perjorative for him as my usage that caused Louis to smart -- like a towel snapped on his bum, I guess. The more things change . ..Ken Lawrence
http://www.indymedia.org/fr/2005/03/870582.shtml
Ken Lawrence Covert Action Writer Exposes Ward/CIA connection!
AIM PART 1 16.Feb.2005 21:07
I confess to having thought that a political introduction was a courtesy inan unsolicited communication. I bear no responsibility for Louis's post of mye-mail on this list, which he then attacked as though I had posted theinformation myself, and some others also have done. Inadvertently, I got under Louis's skin. He professes to relish that as sport when he can inflict it onothers, but turns nasty and irrational when it happens to him.Louis manages to see the clay feet on everyone else's radical heroes, withwhich I concurred generally, and added a few points to his, in a private communication. But the purpose of my e-mail was to note for his benefit, inthe event he had not been aware of it, that Ward Churchill, the hero of his own post, also has clay feet.I wrote as someone who had worked with Ward on a number of projects over a decade's time, always cordially, though in later years our disagreements strained our ability to unite on the political field of struggle.
Ward and I dicussed and debated our differences at his home, his office, at public forums, and on the telephone. When I objected to Ward that his book on Marxism was a caricature, he replied that perhaps it was, but it reported on Marxists as he knew them.By the mid-1980s, Ward regarded CISPES as his main political enemy in Boulder and Denver. I was heavily involved in solidarity work with the FMLN, and sanctuary support, which included speaking/organizing engagements in Colorado. As far as I could tell, Ward's hostility to the FMLN was derivative, because of its political alliance with Sandinista Nicaragua. To my knowledge, no indigenous Salvadorans were oppressed or politically mistreated by the FMLN or by any of its constituent parties. At about that time, Ward condemned the American Indian Movement leadership --specifically Bill Means and Vernon Bellecourt by name -- as stooges of theleft (his words, not mine).
Ward and his supporters set up Colorado AIM to advance their political agenda. So much for Louis's assertion that "There isno other activist/intellectual in the American Indian movement who is more resolutely opposed to capitalism than Ward Churchill."Of necessity, many of us who personally deplored the split in AIM nevertheless were obliged to work politically with Colorado AIM on solidarity issues of great importance. (Louis's vain boast of being the only Marxist supporter of indigenous people and their struggles is so much wind.) In this arena, the culture of machismo cast a pall over much of the work, aswomen were assigned menial tasks but excluded from the circle where decisions were taken. One woman raised a fuss; I concurred with her point; Ward sought to put out the fire, but without implementing change at the top. I hope that things have improved in the decade since.On the national level, Ward and I continued to collaborate on issues of agreement, particularly political repression in the United States. I had developed a considerable body of information on Jill and Gi Shafer, the FBI(and CIA, according to one reporter who interviewed Gi Schafer long afterward)provocateurs at Wounded Knee, much of it learned from Joe Burton, a self-confessed undercover FBI spy who had targeted my work in a small way, but had worked throughout the U.S. and Canada with the Shafers to set up phony communist collectives under FBI control. (Nearly all had Red in the title --Red Star Cadre, Red Sun, Red Collective, and so forth.)
Ward and Ken Tilsen had information on Doug Durham and others who had caused similar damage. Our disagreements were acknowledged with uneasy humor. Ward would call to tease/taunt me -- for example, about his meeting with Brooklyn Rivera andEliott Abrams ("What will our Covert Action friends say about that?" he mocked) and about his barroom encounters with Robert K. Brown. I baited him back ("If Roxanne was bad to rat on her comrades to a HUAC investigator, how can you justify your hat-in-hand meeting with the most enthusiastic war criminal inWashington?").
If anyone knows a better way to function under difficult circumstances, I'm all ears.Louis denies that Ward chose to ally with the CIA, but ended up on the CIA's side by virtue of his support to the Miskito struggle. The latter point istrue, but -- once more for effect -- Ward eventually penned (with Glenn Morris) a political justification for alliance with the CIA, using the Hmong people of Laos as his principal example. If Louis hasn't read the Cultural Survival article, he should read it before he comments further. If he has read it, his postings here are dishonest. Although Louis states that the Miskito alliance with the CIA was a mistake, Ward and Glenn argued the opposite,following the Laotian example.
PART 2 of Ward and the CIA
Ken Lawrence former co-worker of Ward's 16.Feb.2005 21:08
Earlier, at the Boulder anti-apartheid teach-in, Ward had proposed that he and I debate our differences. It was after the CS article appeared that I renewed the proposal to hold a public debate. I asserted the necessity of anti-capitalism and anti-imperialism as the central political ingredients of liberation; Ward and Glenn rejected them. Glenn offered to provide a platform for the debate, which never occurred. After the Sandinista defeat, there was scant political interest in Denver or Boulder, but I still proposed to write and publish it. Ward was willing; unfortunately, our editor was not.In the years since, we have drifted apart, and have not remained in touch.Nevertheless, despite our fierce differences, I have always regarded Ward as a friend and as I reconstructed these events, find that I still do.Now back to the beginning:Ward and I met shortly after he had published his insider account of Soldier of Fortune magazine in the political journal on Africa published at DU, whosetitle I have forgotten. Louis asks for the facts; he should look up that article. I do not have access to my Mississippi archive at this time. Besides those details, which are politically valuable, I asked Ward how he had taken such a revolting job in the first place.
Ward is a professional graphic artist of outstanding talent, as anyone familiar with his work will attest. In an encounter with SoF'sowner/publisher/editor Robert K. Brown, Ward told Brown that his magazine was ugly and amateurish. Brown offered him a job to spruce up and professionalize SoF, which Ward accepted. According to Ward, their political differences wereknown to both (specifically, Ward's association with SDS in the sixties, and Brown's work as a CIA asset), but they both enjoyed the military-macho banter that defined the magazine's culture, and continued to relate on that level even long after Ward had published his kiss-and-tell exposé. This was in the mid-1970s, when both Ward and I were working, in very different political arenas, to thwart CIA mercenary recruitment, in solidarity with Angola and with the Zimbabwe liberation movement.
Any time I was in the vicinity of Denver or Boulder, he helped set up speaking opportunities.As I recall, the last time he did so was in the fall of 1983, shortly before my trip to Nicaragua. Ward and other friends organized several meetings forme, including one at which I was scheduled to debate Brown and Gen. John Singlaub. Their agreed participation could only have been arranged by Ward,but in the end Brown and Singlaub backed out. (Singlaub's secretary attended my talk at UCD, presumably to gather intelligence for her boss.) The closest we came to an actual debate occurred when Brown called a radio talk show that hosted my appearance, with this remark about the previous several weeks' events: "His guys got our guys in Beirut, but our guys got his guys in Grenada."
Part Three of Ward and the CIA
ken Lawrence 16.Feb.2005 21:09
At that time, Ward was warmly encouraging of my visit to Nicaragua as a member of an Oxfam delegation. One person I met at Puerto Cabezas was the then editor of Navajo Times, Mark Trahant (I hope I'm recalling his name correctly), who had toured the entire Atlantic Coast war zone without a Sandinista escort, and wrote his report upon his return. Both of us agreedthat the Sandinistas had made dreadful political mistakes, but that they had recognized this, apologized, and honestly sought to make amends, the results of which were palpable everywhere we went.Another was Roxanne Dunbar, then a Sandinista publicist, whose account did not differ significantly from Trahant's. Meanwhile, the contra Miskitos wered irecting their war efforts against the radical pro-Sandinista Indians,clinics, agricultural co-operatives, and other manifestations of modernity and reconstruction, and torching whole villages (our group visited Sukat Pin after such an attack, and while another was in progress a mile or so away) while seeking allies among the older, traditional leaders. Trahant's serialized Navajo Times report bears study by any radical who wishes to discuss this issue honestly and intelligently.Upon my return, Ward and I had detailed discussions of all this. Ward saidthat he had been asked by Tomás Borge to mediate an accord with the Miskito insurgents, based on the program that Louis professes to have been correct.Initially, Ward agreed, but later changed his position. Although embarrassedby Russ Means's declaration that he was going to Nicaragua "to kill a Sandinista," and his false charge that Borge had ordered the Sandinista army"to shoot the Indians out of the trees like they shoot monkeys," Ward's Colorado AIM backed and publicized the Means/Morris military adventure, which had been funded by the Moonie ultra-right front, CAUSA.That brings me full circle.Having no ability to respond politically to my points, Louis attacked me for reporting my political experiences as an indulgence. Evidently he prefers Web-site Marxism/indigenism derived from the experiences of strangers. My teachers taught that our duty was to join the struggles of workers and oppressed people, and to report on them that they may be propagated. I have done my best to live up to that.With Rosa Luxemburg, I believe that the mistakes of a truly revolutionary proletariat (and of the oppressed) are more valuable and more instructive than the finest decisions of the most excellent central committee. With Antonio Gramsci, I believe that the greatest barrier to socialist revolution is notthe armed might of the state and the ruling class -- though that is capitalism's ultimate prop, after the initial barrier is breached -- but rather the ruling class culture and world view that has been internalized by workers and oppressed people.As for the extended narrative I have presented here, no one needs to take myword for anything. Though Ward and I have not spoken in many years, it would surprise me if he would fail to verify my factual account. To be sure, hewould have a robustly different political perspective on these events, andperhaps on his movement's strategy. Others who participated in many of these struggles include such Colorado activists as Larry Mosqueda (no longer there,but still engaged in struggle), Priscilla Falcon, Ricardo Romero, Kiko Martinez, Lowell May, Elaine Heinrichs, and Jim and Jenny van der Wall.Perhaps even Louis will eventually be able to manage the more complex,contradictory, and ambiguous nuances of real revolutionary struggle, after his next political conversion. He seems to have defined his political career by those phases, which accounts for his knee-jerk retort to my simile of Trotskyism. Lest he get away with that remark, I close with this: By the timeC.L.R. James came to dwell in Chicago, where I lived and worked in the 1960s,the term Troskyist was as perjorative for him as my usage that caused Louis to smart -- like a towel snapped on his bum, I guess. The more things change . ..Ken Lawrence
I have to say that as a Colorado tax payer, I am glad to see him leave. He is a fraud. You guys are really picking the wrong guy to support.
IMC supports a gang of blacks that attacked a white kid because he allegedly said something offensive to the black kids. You support a group of lesbians that attacked a guy because of what he allegedly said. Now Churchill has referred to the victims of 9/11 as nazis. According to the sentiment on this site, you should support the victims' families if they beat the tar out of him.
IMC supports a gang of blacks that attacked a white kid because he allegedly said something offensive to the black kids. You support a group of lesbians that attacked a guy because of what he allegedly said. Now Churchill has referred to the victims of 9/11 as nazis. According to the sentiment on this site, you should support the victims' families if they beat the tar out of him.
America is a sewer of fucking shitty, greedy, horrible people -- 'Good Germans' -- 90% of whom need to get fucking NUKED, like, TODAY, and NYC is nothing more than Hitler's and Eva Braun's shining fuck-nest on the hill.
Good Germans, especially the ones guiding Adolf's dick into Eva's pussy, just don't like hearing the TRUTH about themselves, that's all. That's why all the explosions of spite against Churchill for stating the clear simple plain TRUTH.
IT'S SO OBVIOUS!
His shit was so fucking BEAUTIFUL!!
"There may be a real utility to reflecting further, this time upon the fact that it was pious Americans who led the way in assigning the onus of collective guilt to the German people as a whole, not for things they as individuals had done, but for what they had allowed – nay, empowered – their leaders and their soldiers to do in their name.
"If the principle was valid then, it remains so now, as applicable to Good Americans as it was the Good Germans. And the price exacted from the Germans for the faultiness of their moral fiber was truly ghastly. Returning now to the children, and to the effects of the post-Gulf War embargo – continued bull force by Bush the Elder's successors in the Clinton administration as a gesture of its "resolve" to finalize what George himself had dubbed the "New World Order" of American military/economic domination – it should be noted that not one but two high United Nations officials attempting to coordinate delivery of humanitarian aid to Iraq resigned in succession as protests against US policy.
"One of them, former U.N. Assistant Secretary General Denis Halladay, repeatedly denounced what was happening as "a systematic program . . . of deliberate genocide." His statements appeared in the New York Times and other papers during the fall of 1998, so it can hardly be contended that the American public was "unaware" of them. Shortly thereafter, Secretary of State Madeline Albright openly confirmed Halladay's assessment. Asked during the widely-viewed TV program Meet the Press to respond to his "allegations," she calmly announced that she'd decided it was "worth the price" to see that U.S. objectives were achieved.
The Politics of a Perpetrator Population
"As a whole, the American public greeted these revelations with yawns.. There were, after all, far more pressing things than the unrelenting misery/death of a few hundred thousand Iraqi tikes to be concerned with. Getting "Jeremy" and "Ellington" to their weekly soccer game, for instance, or seeing to it that little "Tiffany" and "Ashley" had just the right roll-neck sweaters to go with their new cords. And, to be sure, there was the yuppie holy war against ashtrays – for "our kids," no less – as an all-absorbing point of political focus...
AY. Fucking. MEN. Ward!
He has all you assholes' numbers to PERFECTION, America -- he is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about NYC, in ways you are simply too blind and selfish to see -- and YOU CAN NOT FUCKING STAND IT!!
http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/s11/churchill.html
Somebody should record this thing on a looped tape and keep playing it back into your shitty, greedy Good German ears at 80 decibels, 24-7, until you finally stick your shitty, greedy Good German heads into hydraulic presses, which need to be right there on hand, cycling constantly.
Good Germans, especially the ones guiding Adolf's dick into Eva's pussy, just don't like hearing the TRUTH about themselves, that's all. That's why all the explosions of spite against Churchill for stating the clear simple plain TRUTH.
IT'S SO OBVIOUS!
His shit was so fucking BEAUTIFUL!!
"There may be a real utility to reflecting further, this time upon the fact that it was pious Americans who led the way in assigning the onus of collective guilt to the German people as a whole, not for things they as individuals had done, but for what they had allowed – nay, empowered – their leaders and their soldiers to do in their name.
"If the principle was valid then, it remains so now, as applicable to Good Americans as it was the Good Germans. And the price exacted from the Germans for the faultiness of their moral fiber was truly ghastly. Returning now to the children, and to the effects of the post-Gulf War embargo – continued bull force by Bush the Elder's successors in the Clinton administration as a gesture of its "resolve" to finalize what George himself had dubbed the "New World Order" of American military/economic domination – it should be noted that not one but two high United Nations officials attempting to coordinate delivery of humanitarian aid to Iraq resigned in succession as protests against US policy.
"One of them, former U.N. Assistant Secretary General Denis Halladay, repeatedly denounced what was happening as "a systematic program . . . of deliberate genocide." His statements appeared in the New York Times and other papers during the fall of 1998, so it can hardly be contended that the American public was "unaware" of them. Shortly thereafter, Secretary of State Madeline Albright openly confirmed Halladay's assessment. Asked during the widely-viewed TV program Meet the Press to respond to his "allegations," she calmly announced that she'd decided it was "worth the price" to see that U.S. objectives were achieved.
The Politics of a Perpetrator Population
"As a whole, the American public greeted these revelations with yawns.. There were, after all, far more pressing things than the unrelenting misery/death of a few hundred thousand Iraqi tikes to be concerned with. Getting "Jeremy" and "Ellington" to their weekly soccer game, for instance, or seeing to it that little "Tiffany" and "Ashley" had just the right roll-neck sweaters to go with their new cords. And, to be sure, there was the yuppie holy war against ashtrays – for "our kids," no less – as an all-absorbing point of political focus...
AY. Fucking. MEN. Ward!
He has all you assholes' numbers to PERFECTION, America -- he is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about NYC, in ways you are simply too blind and selfish to see -- and YOU CAN NOT FUCKING STAND IT!!
http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/s11/churchill.html
Somebody should record this thing on a looped tape and keep playing it back into your shitty, greedy Good German ears at 80 decibels, 24-7, until you finally stick your shitty, greedy Good German heads into hydraulic presses, which need to be right there on hand, cycling constantly.
http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/s11/churchill.html
"Be it said as well, AND THIS IS REALLY THE CRUX OF IT, that the "resistance" expended the bulk of its time and energy harnessed to the systemically-useful task of trying to ensure, as "a principle of moral virtue" that nobody went further than waving signs as a means of "challenging" the patently exterminatory pursuit of Pax Americana. So pure of principle were these "dissidents," in fact, that they began literally to supplant the police in protecting corporations profiting by the carnage against suffering such retaliatory "violence" as having their windows broken by persons less "enlightened" – or perhaps more outraged – than the self-anointed "peacekeepers."
"Property before people, it seems – or at least the equation of property to people – is a value by no means restricted to America's boardrooms...
He doesn't hate your guts because HE's "hateful," America, no-no -- you just WANT to believe that -- he despises you BECAUSE YOU'RE COMPLETELY FUCKING DESPICABLE!! You're the image of SATAN now! It's YOU who are hateful! You hate him irrationally for seeing you too clearly! For holding a simple flat mirror up in front of you, instead of one of those inverting fun-house pieces of shit you SO prefer!
"Be it said as well, AND THIS IS REALLY THE CRUX OF IT, that the "resistance" expended the bulk of its time and energy harnessed to the systemically-useful task of trying to ensure, as "a principle of moral virtue" that nobody went further than waving signs as a means of "challenging" the patently exterminatory pursuit of Pax Americana. So pure of principle were these "dissidents," in fact, that they began literally to supplant the police in protecting corporations profiting by the carnage against suffering such retaliatory "violence" as having their windows broken by persons less "enlightened" – or perhaps more outraged – than the self-anointed "peacekeepers."
"Property before people, it seems – or at least the equation of property to people – is a value by no means restricted to America's boardrooms...
He doesn't hate your guts because HE's "hateful," America, no-no -- you just WANT to believe that -- he despises you BECAUSE YOU'RE COMPLETELY FUCKING DESPICABLE!! You're the image of SATAN now! It's YOU who are hateful! You hate him irrationally for seeing you too clearly! For holding a simple flat mirror up in front of you, instead of one of those inverting fun-house pieces of shit you SO prefer!
If what he has to say is so fucking amazing, why did he have to fabricate sources for his publications? Why did he have to lie about being a Native American? Why did he have to lie about what he did in the military?
Anywho, judging from your posts, a rational discussion is not what you're here for.
Anywho, judging from your posts, a rational discussion is not what you're here for.
Thank you for posting the illuminating essay by Professor Churchill. Although the essay is 99% accurate, there is a fatal flaw in this line...
Evil – for those inclined to embrace the banality of such a concept – was perfectly incarnated in that malignant toad known as Madeline Albright, squatting in her studio chair like Jaba the Hutt, blandly spewing the news that she'd imposed a collective death sentence upon the unoffending youth of Iraq.
...Having received the Star Wars trilogy on DVD for Christmas, I would like to point out that Jabba the Hut (two b's, one t) did not squat in a studio chair, he reclined on a raised dais overlooking the floor where he received important guests. By comparing Jabba's seating style to that of Albright, Dr. Churchill demeans not only Jabba, but legions of loyal Star Wars fans the world over. If, like me, you are offended by Professor Churchill's misrepresentation of one of George Lucas' most compelling and memorable characters, please join me in petitioning the CU Board of Regents in favor of Dr. Churchill's dismissal. Please forward this to any other Star Wars fans you know, unless they are fans of Jar Jar Binks, a latter-day Joseph Goebbels who willingly served as a propagandist for the genocidal, imperialist monarchy of Queen Amidala, and later served in the Galactic Senate as an apologist for the Gungan use of biological weapaons in the dispute with the Trade Federation
Evil – for those inclined to embrace the banality of such a concept – was perfectly incarnated in that malignant toad known as Madeline Albright, squatting in her studio chair like Jaba the Hutt, blandly spewing the news that she'd imposed a collective death sentence upon the unoffending youth of Iraq.
...Having received the Star Wars trilogy on DVD for Christmas, I would like to point out that Jabba the Hut (two b's, one t) did not squat in a studio chair, he reclined on a raised dais overlooking the floor where he received important guests. By comparing Jabba's seating style to that of Albright, Dr. Churchill demeans not only Jabba, but legions of loyal Star Wars fans the world over. If, like me, you are offended by Professor Churchill's misrepresentation of one of George Lucas' most compelling and memorable characters, please join me in petitioning the CU Board of Regents in favor of Dr. Churchill's dismissal. Please forward this to any other Star Wars fans you know, unless they are fans of Jar Jar Binks, a latter-day Joseph Goebbels who willingly served as a propagandist for the genocidal, imperialist monarchy of Queen Amidala, and later served in the Galactic Senate as an apologist for the Gungan use of biological weapaons in the dispute with the Trade Federation
The internet is tricky, you can never be sure when someone is being serious, or just parodying...
Ward Churchill Interview
http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/140172/index.php
July 30, 2007
VoxUnion Media
Jazz & Justice
This week's "redux" features our interview with Professor Ward Churchill. Churchill describes the nature of his recent removal from the University of Colorado.
Part 1: http://voxunion.com/realaudio/coupradio/073007p1.mp3
Part 2: http://voxunion.com/realaudio/coupradio/073007p2.mp3
http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/140172/index.php
July 30, 2007
VoxUnion Media
Jazz & Justice
This week's "redux" features our interview with Professor Ward Churchill. Churchill describes the nature of his recent removal from the University of Colorado.
Part 1: http://voxunion.com/realaudio/coupradio/073007p1.mp3
Part 2: http://voxunion.com/realaudio/coupradio/073007p2.mp3
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