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Rainbow Children Detained in the name of Homeland Security!!!!
by 1st Ammendment at risk
Tuesday Jun 27th, 2006 11:54 AM
right to assemble
Rainbow Children Detained in the name of Homeland Security!!!!



Please take the time to read this and do your part to help. Details are at the bottom on how to help.


Thanks: The Freedom Files w Heretic.X
I Have Woken UP!
Corporations_Ate_My_BABY!

Summary:

Since 1972 people from all over the US and the world make a trek to the National Forests for something called "The Gathering Of The Tribes" to express activism mixed with alternative spiritual practices and prayer.

The Bush Administration has spent millions of dollars trying to stop the Rainbow Gatherings. 500 people who have been issued citations, are then being herded into "trials" like none anyone has seen before in America.

These pseudo trials are likely prototypes for what Homeland Security will use in the cases of insurrection or even a plague. Defendants inexplicably lose the right to a public hearing (this year these hearings are being held behind closed doors in a firehouse garage near the site.)

Attorneys and legal observers have been denied the right to even view these trials. The defendants are not explained their rights nor afforded the right to an attorney, the right to summon witnesses, the right to a jury trial, even fresh water!

We must understand that if these citizens lose their constitutional right to gather, we all lose such rights. This year the Rainbow Gathering is being used to set precedents that will be turned against drug policy, civil liberty, anti-war or other activists in the near future. Phone Numbers and A list Of Actions You Can Take Are listed at the end of the full story posted below and marked with **asterisks**.


Original Post From:

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Fight American Fascism

EVERYONE!. This is serious businesss. This is not a joke, or anytime to ignore what is really going on. I am posting this again in an attempt to get EVERYONE involved. These people are having all of their rights violated and being thrown into all of those nice prison camps that we have heard so much about. It is your American duty to help these people. I have inclosed latest letter that I recieved right below. PLEASE help in every way possible so we can show the department of Homeland Security that we are not afraid and that they can not do this!

From: LEXX

My Original post has been deleted and they will not let me post this any more.
At last contact, there are about 2-300 sites on other side of Roadblock. They are arresting EVERYONE! Any one on road or in area are being taken to a round up point to be taken to Detention camps! The family has been determined to be a threat to Homeland Security, so begins the first MASS ARRESTS!
THIS NEEDS TO GET OUT VERY SERIOUSLY! THIS IS A WACO TYPE SCENARIO ABOUT TO HAPPEN!
PLEASE GET THIS OUT TO EVERY ONE YOU KNOW
THANKS,LEXX
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I don't care who you are, or what you're beliefs are, you NEED to help with this in order to protect our freedoms. Please read this article and voice you're support by calling you're representatives and everyone else. I know most of you don't read or act on what I post but PLEASE do it this time. We have now lost our free internet because we didn't do enough, let's not lose our right to assemble.


From: LEXX

Dear Friends and Family,

I need your help to protect my family, the collective efforts of tens of thousands of citizens known as the "Rainbow Family." This week, near Steamboat Springs, Colorado, the U.S. Forest Service has taken illegal action to stop this annual assembly for expression and prayer, in gross violation of the participants essential Constitutional rights.

The 'Rainbow' Gatherings have borne a legacy of spiritual & cultural pilgrimage to the National Forests since 1972, the purest exercise of open consensual assembly in our time. The annual 'Gathering of the Tribes' draws thousands over the first week of July, focusing on the 4th as a holy day of prayer for peace and freedom. In recent years small regional events in this mode have emerged, and such gatherings have taken place in many nations around the world.

THE GATHERING EXPERIENCE --

Some say the "Rainbow" Gathering is the continuation of the idealism of Woodstock. I think of it more as my annual spiritual retreat and family reunion. Since 1980, I have gathered with my family to compare ideas and pray for peace. I arrive loaded with the burdens of my work, depressed about the world situation. Each year I depart with my faith in humankind renewed and with the energy to fight the beast another year.

The rainbow family is not organized in any way; it is an exercise in self-determination and cooperation in the public interest, without need of government controls. We understand that no matter what comes down, it is the respect and care for each other that win in the end. We have no leaders or leadership, we have no offices or officers, we have no treasurer or treasury. We sit in counsel, often for days at a time in order to make mutual decisions, but there is no power to enforce these decisions on any individual. In the end, just like in society, it works because enough responsible people make sure that what needs to be done gets done.

We have been doing rainbow gatherings for over 30 years, each time in a different national forest across the country. We come in and set up a village in the woods. Cooperative kitchens pour out a wide variety of foods. Seminars on just about any topic are run by the hour.

The Rainbow is known as a healing gathering; people with various ailments come for help. Here in one place they can receive healing, from herbalists, acupuncturists, chiropractors and masseuses working with osteopaths and physicians. These healers work as a team and share their knowledge in a holistic approach that teaches all involved a lot about the roots of medicine.

Religious groups, ranging from Christians to Hare Krishnas set up camps. It's truly a free society. We go pretty far back in the woods to get away from the ills of civilization like alcohol and hard drugs. We have our gathering and then restore any damage we cause to the woods. And we have a perfect record of restoration of the forest.

It's great to walk through a gathering and see so many people but not a scrap of paper on the ground, not a cigarette butt in sight. Each year we train thousands of newcomers how to get along in the woods without destroying the place. Knowledgeable Forest Servide 'Resource' personnel love us; it's the Federal bureaucrats and police from Washington who are on our case.

REPRESSIVE FEDERAL POLICIES --

The Bush Administration has spent millions of dollars trying to stop the Rainbow Gatherings. They are enforcing a 'Noncommercial Group Use' permit regulation that is impossible for unaffiliated individuals to comply with. 36 CFR 251.54 They require that that someone sign as an agent for a fictional group entity named as permit Holder -- which then must assume full liability from the Government and bind participants vicariously to its terms.

By the creed of the gatherings, no one can appoint themselves to such a position. More importantly, such an ad hoc gathering has no legal capacity to designate agents or act as a group party in any way. As a result, individuals are denied personal standing in First Amendment exercise and subjected to harsh criminal prosecution for being anywhere near the area

The Forest Service requires that a permit be applied for in advance of the gathering. And they use any excuse possible to deny a permit application when we manage to submit one. This year their denial was based on the fact that a logging company had a permit to log in a nearby parcel of the national forest, even though there is no logging activity present whatsoever. The site is far remote from any inhabitants -- but still the Forest Service is all over our case.

Millions of taxpayer dollars are being spent to block this harmless gathering from taking place. The scariest aspect of all this is how Homeland Security is using these gatherings to perfect their techniques of martial law. Regulations written for the Federal Emergency Management Authority to deal with natural disasters are now being used to crush dissent in this country.

Each year the Rainbow Gathering is declared a "National Incident" and federal military law ensues. A Special Agent is appointed "Incident Commander", with a Delegation of Authority, a large law enforcement "Team", and huge budget to control the gathering. Qualified Forest Service administrators lose their power, while the county sheriff and other officials are brought into targeted law enforcement actions by inclusion in the Incident Team and other inter-agency agreements.

Each year Homeland Security gains more power over the individuals involved.

RIGHTS CRISIS IN COLORADO --

At this writing Forest Service law enforcement has issued over 500 tickets to the early arrivals at the gathering in Colorado. They have blocked the road and have prevented food and water from reaching those who managed to get into the gathering before the police roadblock was set up.

The 500 people with tickets are being herded into trials like none anyone has seen before in America. These pseudo trials are prototypes for what Homeland Security will use in the cases of insurrection or even a plague. Defendants lose the right to a public hearing (this year these hearings are being held behind closed doors in a firehouse garage near the site.

Attorneys and legal observers have been denied the right to even view these trials. The defendants are not explained their rights nor afforded the right to an attorney, the right to summon witnesses, the right to a jury trial, etc. Defendants ordered to appear each day at 9:00 a.m. and sit in the hot sun without water or sanitary facilities until their trials. Some have now been waiting for several days. These abbreviated trials only take a few minutes. Last year I tried to help a string of defendants defend themselves in these trials but felt helpless to do much as the system was clearly stacked against them.

This year is especially frustrating to me as I have to watch this come down from 6000 miles away. Right now I am in Hungary at a medical conference for my employment. I am flying home on Thursday and plan on being in court Saturday, July 1st, to defend some of my best friends who got a ticket for illegally gathering as they drove down a public highway.

WHAT TO DO --

The confrontation this year is getting more intense by the minute, which is why I am asking for your help. The only way to stop a massive conflagration in Colorado in the next few days is to get thousands of people to contact their political representatives as well as the responsible administrators at the Forest Service to demand that this repression stop immediately.

Please, even if you can never conceive of yourself at a Rainbow Gathering, you must understand that if these citizens lose their constitutional right to gather, we all lose such rights. This year the Rainbow Gathering is being used to set precedents that will be turned against drug policy, civil liberty, anti-war or other activists in the near future.
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Following are some instructions on who to write and/or call

We hope to start flooding the Department of Agriculture and the Forest Service with complaints starting Monday morning and not stopping until harassment stops. It is especially important that we get a few Congressional representative and Senators concerned enough to write the Forest Service for an explanation of why so much money is being spent to keep people from camping in the National Forest set aside for exactly that purpose.

Please keep the pressure on these bureaucrats until we are able to spread the word that the government has backed off and that the gathering can proceed unhindered.

If you do not know the contact information for your Congressman or Senator, you can find this here. You can call your representative at 212-224-3121. Besides your representatives in Washington, please call and write the following people to voice your protest to this harsh treatment of people who just want to go on a camping trip in the woods. Keep the calls coming until word is passed around that the government has called off their dogs. Please forward this letter to your friends and feel free to re-post it on any listserv or website you wish. Email me if you have any questions.

Don E Wirtshafter
Attorney at Law
Box 18 Guysville, OH 45735
740 662 5297
don [at] hempery.com

USDA, Natural Resources & Environment
Mark Rey, USDA Undersecretary
1400 Independence Ave. SW, .. 217-E
Washington, DC 20250
202-720-7173 Fax: 202-720-0632
mark.rey [at] usda.gov

Kathleen Gause, Director 202-205-8534
USDA Forest Service
Civil Rights Staff
Stop Code 1142
1400 Independence Ave., S.W.
Washington., DC 20250-1142
Tel (202) 205-1585


Office of the Chief
Dale Bosworth, Chief
USDA Forest Service
Yates Federal Building (4NW Yates)
201 14th Street, SW - Washington, DCÊ20250
202-205-1661; Fx: 202-205-1765
Executive Assistant...Karla Hawley, 202 -205-1195

Medicine Bow-Routt National Forests,
Mary H. Peterson, Supervisor
2468 Jackson Street -- Laramie, WY 82070-6535
307-745-2300 Fax: 307-745-2398

U.S. Forest Service, Rocky Mountain Region (R-2)
Rick Cables, Regional Forester
Mail: P.O. Box 25127 -- Lakewood, CO 80225-0127
303-275-5451
Richard Stem, Deputy Regional Forester, Resources: 303-275-5451

Steve Silverman, Office of General Counsel, Regional Attorney: 303-275-5536

Bill Fox, Law Enforcement & Investigations, Special Agent in Charge: 303-275-5253

Jerome Romero, Deputy Director of Civil Rights: 303-275-5340

Some resources to research these issues further:

The best Rainbow website:
http://www.welcomehome.org

A good article written before the feds came down hard:
http://www.csindy.com

More recent coverage:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com and

http://www.denverpost.com
§Rumour Control
by starfire Thursday Jun 29th, 2006 10:59 PM
Well, in response to this post, I feel the need to do some rumour control here. I'll preface this by saying that it is longstanding Rainbow Family consensus that nobody has ever, or ever will represent the Rainbow Family.

The main thing I want to point out, is that some of the "information" given here is at the very least a week old, if it is anywhere near accurate at all, and that things have changed considerably on the ground since the time some of the stuff in this post was put out there. And some of the claims here have not actually ever happened; The main fictional claims are that there have been no internment camps set up, and that people are not actually being "rounded up".

This is not to say that people aren't having their civil rights violated, but not necessarily to the extent that this poster makes it seem... And it's not to say people shouldn't be calling their congressional reps about the constitutional violation of civil liberties that is definitely happening by harassing Rainbow Gatherers; I just want to be sure that people who may be calling/writing, will be doing so with some of the more current information, and that folks have a little more context than the Common Dreams article (http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0629-34.htm)
gives, and a little more accuracy than the above post gives.


This is actually NOT the first year that Rainbow has been targetted by FS law enforcement efforts to shut down the Gatherings... it has been happening since Day One (1972, in Granby Colorado, roads were blocked and 5,000 folks put on their packs and walked in 5 miles to the gathering site)... and it got worse during Bush I regime, in 1988 when the Texas Gathering was roadblocked completely, and supplies had to be brought in by boat. Since 1995, when the Forest disService anti-gathering regulations passed, it has been "illegal" to gather in the national forest in groups of over 75 without a special-use occupancy permit.

Most of us have resisted signing such a permit, on the grounds that it is our constitutional and goddess-given right to gather on public lands, for the purposes of free assembly, religion, and speech... we have consistently fought this regulation in the courts and have lost every time, with several of our Family serving up to 90 days in federal prison for their resistance.

There are many reasons we have resisted this rulemaking. One of them is that since 1984 people in our family, with the backing of the Family Council, have consistently entered into agreements, called "Operating Plans" with the Forest Service Resource Managers (not to be confused with LEO's/Incident Command officers/treepigs) who are familiar with the unique needs of their national forests, and who can help us locate appropriate sites for our shitters, compost pits, and kitchens in a way that is suitable for the area, keeping hydrology and geology in mind...

Before this 1995 administrative rulemaking, these resource manager folks also helped us with site locations for regionals, as well as helping us get the appropriate vegetation seed for the area during cleanup. We typically arrange emergency medical transport as well as planning for how recycling and garbage disposal will happen, as well as contacting local tribes and local businesses to let them know what to expect, and to find out if there are special sites we need to protect/avoid. (Nowadays those that seem to be starting to sympathize with us & help us out are often transferred out of the area for the time of the Gathering)

Businesses in the area around a Rainbow Gathering typically make between a quarter million and a million dollars in revenues from the presence of our temporary village. We are also often the only location for many miles where it rains for a couple weeks, even during drought spells... (How can you have a Rainbow without the Rain?)

Another reason some of us have felt the need to resist this rulemaking, and indeed it was fought successfully for over 10 years before it finally passed in it's current form in 1995, is because of our deeply held belief in the concept of the Commons; Public land should be available to the Public to use.

This is what is so frightening to those who like to think they're in Power, because if we can do it, then anybody can. And that's the biggest threat, as the public lands get increasingly co-opted by privatization by corporations who are steadily charging more and more for the Public to enjoy Public lands...

So, to get into the nuts and bolts of the rest of this story, now that I've provided a little background, for context, since this on as well as the Common Dreams article leaves the reader wondering why this "sudden" targetting is happening, and we are left with the impression that this is an action being taken by the government seemingly out of "nowhere"... I'll now try and fill you all in on what I believe to be true, although I am not at this moment on the ground at the Colorado Gathering, much to my sadness, so cannot attest that what I believed to be "true" this morning hasn't already changed as things do when thousands are working together to create H.O.M.E... Heaven On Mother Earth.

Yes, I believe that still, right now at the 2006 Rainbow Gathering of the Tribes, there is a "roadblock" of sorts; During the daylight hours around every 3 cars are stopped and those in the vehicle are told by the officers that the Gathering in Colorado is illegal, and that those entering are subject to being ticketed for participating in an unpermitted gathering.... The actual offense is: "Use or occupancy of National Forest System land or facilities without special-use authorization when such authorization is required."

As is typical when the "Incident Command Team" is invoked by the presence of an "Incident" - which means there are over 1000 people at the site - the local law enforcement is called upon to help the FS Law Enforcement (Tree Pigs) out. This is nothing new, and is a typical situation when ICT (formerly FEMA) is brought into the picture, as it has been every year since I can remember - I've been going to Rainbow Gatherings since 1989, and my first National Gathering was in Colorado in 1992.

Many of us fit the description in the Common Dreams article, with broken down vehicles and are hitching to the Gathering, and some don't have cell phones... but I must say that the around one million dollars in revenue is coming from somewhere and if you do the math, for only around 10,000 people to be bringing that much money to the local towns, (and spending a lot more in preparation before we arrive) - many of us are also affluent, and most of us hold down regular jobs, have careers, mortgages, families, farms, and even (gasp) well-running vehicles!! We bring what we want to contribute - our skills, our workshops, our costumes, our literature, our food, our kitchens, our medical and herbal skills, our tipi lodges, our shovels, our tarps, rope, saws, water filtration for 10,000 people, barrels for the ovens, blankets for the sweat lodges, and most of all, our love. And our desire to create intentional community every year in a different National Forest. To pray for world peace and healing, to send our healing message to the universe.... that people CAN do this in the forest, that total strangers CAN work together and solve all the problems that come with this kind of an autonomous, leaderless Gathering... of 10,000 + people in the middle of the forest for a couple weeks... and clean it up without a trace except soil compaction...

This kind of co-operation has been severely limited in recent years, because anyone who tries to work with the FS gets labelled an "organizer" of an illegal gathering, and pressured to sign a permit or do jail time... various creative responses have been offered over the years, resulting in little change in this targetting process, and making it very difficult for necessary preparations to be made before the Family comes H.O.M.E.

To get back to what is going on; As of today, Thursday June 29th, we are told by our Sisters and Brothers on the land that Roadblocks start around 10am and stop around 6pm, and are gone by dark. Then the cars are generally waved on, although some are searched and some are ticketed. The cars then generally continue driving into the Gathering from the roadblock according to all the reports I've read... it was estimated by one source that there were between 2,000 and 3,500 people at the Gathering right now as of this morning, although the FS says around 4,000 have arrived.

No, there are not people being "rounded up", nor is there any "detention camp", as has been mentioned in the above post, although ticketing is still happening, both on the road and inside the Gathering. pretty much wherever the treepigs want to hand out tickets... for participating in an illegal Gathering. Tickets are generally $100.00, and have been handed out for the past 5 years or so at all the Gatherings that don't have permits, (like this one) and then after the permits are signed, (and even when they aren't) tickets continue to be given out for nudity, dogs off leash, digging shitters, setting up kitchens/waterpipe & filtration apparatus... etc.

As I said already, this repression is happening as a result of the power the FS Law Enforcement branch gained after the 1995 passage of the anti-gathering regulations. At around the same time, similar laws passed governing gatherings on BLM land, and gatherings in city parks were also severely restricted around that same time period, give or take a couple years. At least half a dozen Rainbows have now served time in federal prison, 3 months generally, for opposing these regulations, and Rainbows have lost in court time and time again on all sorts of different approaches to fight these anti-gathering regulations.

As of this morning's report, Rainbow gatherers report that roadblocks in Colorado currently go into place around 10am thru 6pm and that water filtration is going into place, and until that fully happens (generally by the 1st), bringing water is essential.

The timing of the above post may have been just a little late, because this time last week there WAS an actual blockade solidly in place until lots of Rainbows encircled the cops... and ... with love I assume, convinced these cops to back off, and abandon that blockade, allowing folks to re-enter the Gathering who had been blocked out for a time. Apparently the cops left after being encircled without citing anyone.

People went to court last Friday and got either reductions in their fine or set court dates for those pleading innocent, set for 2 dates in early July. The court dates on Friday didn't have anything to do with this encircling incident and they were not trials, just people pleading innocent or guilty and paying fines or getting court dates set, and the reason there were not public defenders assigned to the people in court, is because the prosecution is not seeking any jail time for those ticketed.

So I guess what I'm trying to get across is not that people's civil rights AREN'T being violated, or that people shouldn't call their congressional reps to alert them to this breach of civil liberties.. but I just wanted to put this situation into a little broader context than the authors of this article and the Common Dreams article have done, so that people can understand a little better what this is actually all about.


p.s. Regarding the exclusion of attorneys, or legal observers, and callout for help from one attorney who works with our Family, below is the first hand report that came out Monday June 26th, 3 days after Friday's court date, as it was reported on by a Rainbow legal observer who's been in our Family for well over 20 years, and who posted the following to our Rainbow list. This posting and one before it apparently generated some misunderstandings and some folks have been posting various interpretations of this post around at various websites, so I'm reposting this here in the hope that this will clarify where some of the more hysterical callouts may have been started. The plea for help was generated last week when there was a complete blockade. That is no longer the case, and as things change fast during the Gathering, it is best to find out what's really going on by going to the Gathering yourself. Now that Family is on the Land, Family will deal with all these situations on the Land as it has been doing for well over 3 decades.

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[This Report is from Court near/in Steamboat Springs Colorado on Friday June 23rd - this report was not archived on the unofficial newsgroup archive, but was instead sent out to one of the public Rainbow listserves, so maybe this wasn't read by the person posting the above article. ]

Presiding was Magistrate West from Durango doing an admirable job of advising pro-se defendants of constitutional rights; prosecuting was Wade Angelo (sp) from the U.S. Attorney's Office who did a good job of advising the pro se defendants in turn what the consequences of various pleas to the Forest Service charges might entail. Most of the charges for the Rainbow family members stemmed from being in the National Forest north of Steamboat in a gathering of more than 75 people without a special-use permit and they were being prosecuted under 36 CFR Ch. II s 261.10 (k): "Use or occupancy of National Forest System land or facilities without special-use authorization when such authorization is required."

We provided some minimal pro bono advice. Since the government had waived seeking any jail time, the defendants apparently were not eligible for FPD. Most of the defendants plead "No Contest" to the charges and the government requested only a minimal fine of $100.00 (plus an administrative surcharge of $25.00 and victims' compensate charge of $10.00). If the Court felt during sentencing there were extenuating circumstances, it often lowered the base fine to $50.00. Several defendants requested continuances until the next Court date which is June 30 or July 7 to consult with legal counsel. While it was like any arraignment...reminiscent of a cattle being led to slaughter...one time a U.S. Marshall provided some friendly assistance on whether or not the charges would show up on an F.B.I. check and once a security screening guard helped a defendant with change for the court fines. One defendant plead not-guilty and a trial to the Court was to be held after the arraignments were finished. This is like Orwell with Heller's Catch 22 and Arlo Guthrie's Alice's Restaurant --

If you go to witness the proceedings or to provide pro bono advice, watch out for the National Forest Law Enforcement folks and ask, politely, to speak with a U.S. Marshall and do not let the Forest Service "pretend" like they are seeing if it would be alright for you to attend. Be amazed at the sheer mass of humanity being ushered through a legal system most cannot comprehend. But also you might be impressed that the Federal Court and particularly Magistrate West are doing a pretty good job under the circumstances. Some photos are here:

....If these trials are ongoing, I would request that someone in the area go there simply to observe - not as a defense attorney (don't flash a bar card, but get the names and agency of anyone denying you access) - and if you/they are denied access, you/they are prospective plaintiffs. It is better to go with several than simply as an individual, and better to get the interaction on tape if you have a recorder or video camera. Each of us has a right to attend public court hearings and would have standing to raise a claim in federal court if our right to attend is curtailed.

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by Jim Harpin II
Tuesday Jun 27th, 2006 2:40 PM
The US gov't violated the first amendment by caging protestors, and forcing Amazon to stop stocking books like "America Deceived" by E.A. Blayre III.
The US gov't violated the fourth amendment by NSA wiretapping all calls WITHOUT a warrant.
The US gov't violated the Constitution by starting illegal wars.
The 'Rainbow Children' should be relieved they weren't sent into detention camps.
Support indy media.
Last link (before US gov't forces it off Google Books):
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by Shoshanna
Tuesday Jun 27th, 2006 3:49 PM
I ASKED JEFF RENSE ( www.rense.com ) to link to this page and he has........This should bring an outcry and publicity. I've been a Family Member since Georgia in the '80's, Minnesota, Nevada, Texas..........and am sending BIG "I love you"'s into the ethers for our brothers and sisters in Colorado. Also sent the link to several major media outlets.....Let's hope they pick up the story with the RIGHTS issue in forefront. Blessings in the Light, Sho
by Al
Tuesday Jun 27th, 2006 5:10 PM
from 1967-1970 and was told I was defending Freedom and isn't one of those Freedoms the ability to Peacefully Assemble?
by Bushman
Tuesday Jun 27th, 2006 5:55 PM
The real reason it's open season on Rainbows, and part of HLS, is that one of them set the national forest on fire here in Sedona, on his or her way to the gathering. Sedona, now considers the rainbows as transients. Theres bad, stoned out of thier gourds rainbows leaving a trail of trash, ruinning it for the ones that are in the right. Is sad , but true, they want the fire starter.
by Mad Plato
Tuesday Jun 27th, 2006 7:10 PM
I will side with the Rainbow Family on this, not the neo-fascism of the Bush regime. I attended a Gathering of the Tribes in Granby, Colorado in the seventies. Although it was a rather wild and weird "gathering", it was mainly benign. I helped carry food into the forest.
by east of the divide
Tuesday Jun 27th, 2006 7:22 PM
The forets of the west are mostly part of a national forest system that absolutely does not 'belong' to townies who have cropped up in the last half century. These suberbs mostly are illegal developments that should never have been built due to the high instance of natural forest fire activity.

Deciding they like the view - its the suburban dweller that has cost state and federal tax dollars billions in forest fire fighting costs - whereas in the past these lands would have natural burn off seasonally.

The squatters of Colorado have no right to complain about 'visitors'. Most of them shouldn't be year round dwellers anyway. Everyone there should be a visitor and not a year round drag on the eco system.
First i woulkd like to address certain parts of this post, some of it is true but the part about children and arrests is not. the site has no raodblocks as of this date, there are 4000+ people with more coming everyday, there has been aprox. 283 tickets for no permit, and these are being addressed by the fs at a firehouse, fine has been 125dollars with 1 year probation to stay away from agethering. i don't know who posted this but they should have their facts straight before posting this sensationalism and untruths. second thing to address is the interment camps, this is also untrue, only place that poster could have gotten that info was on alt.gathering.rainbow it is total bunk, some trolls were using those exact words about these camps, and there are none that are being used nor is there any planned either. like i said the original poster has posted some big whoppers. people are on the land kitchens are running and people are digging shitters. to see what has been happening of late, i would suggest the steamboat pilot, google it up and read all articles pertaining to the gathering, you will find different answers than what this person wrote. and for more info i would suggest those who are truely interested feel free to join a yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ColoradoRainbowFamily/ and read the archives, i have posted many emails from those inside tha gathering who have painted a totaly different picture. \ my two cents mike twofeathers
by Algonquin
Wednesday Jun 28th, 2006 6:16 AM
Thank you Mike Two Feathers for your unbiased input. It sounds like the original poster was someone who did not buy a camping permit and subsequently was issued a ticket, and in a fit of childish anger wants to get back at the forest service. Why do people ignore the rules and then complain when they get caught????
by Stex
Wednesday Jun 28th, 2006 7:15 AM
When they (the govt) came for the Loggers, they (tree huggers) cheered. When they came for the Miners, they cheered. When they came for the Homesteaders, they cheered. When they came for the Hunters, they cheered. When they came for the Bikers, they cheered. When they came for the Rock Hounds, they cheered. When they came for the Boy Socuts, they cheered. When they came for the Pot Farmers, they cheered...now when they come for the Rainbow Campers, all of America cheered. Stupid World Biosphere Adventure Pass Nazi Dupes.
by Don Villa
Wednesday Jun 28th, 2006 10:51 AM
I just spoke with Denise Ottaviano part of the 50-person team assigned to monitor this event. So far there has been one fire and two assaults on federal officers. Gathering in this number 10-20000 people puts tremendous pressure on the land as any resonable person can imagine. Yes I have been to several gatherings and support both the right to gather and more importantly the communal prayer for eco-salvation. But don't point the finger at the federal officers who are responsible for the public welfare. The site selected does not allow for evacuation in the case of fire and places undue pressure on water resources--yes sanitation is part of human evolution! The people-land relationship is the very essence of this discussion. !st ammendment rights are not being compromised but safty and sanity are. Peace Don
by Luther R. Norman
Wednesday Jun 28th, 2006 1:50 PM
June 28, 2006

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: (I think this concerns all of us!)

I am so sorry to hear about this travesty! What crime is it these people are said to have committed? Is there no end to the harrassment of the jackbooted thugs of Homeland Security?

Is it now illegal to take a drive with the family or will it soon be illegal to go on vacation in your own car? These are some of the many things the Bush administration is using to repeal freedom of speech, movement and choice in this land of confusion.

Bush and his minions do not work for the good of the citizens of this country! No, they have a separate agenda and the people they answer to are strategically located in other lands, yet can be found in the international banking system. The main thing that they must accomplish is to completely bankrupt and financially drain this country to the point that recovery is impossible. It will simply be in the condition of a third world country, and borders eradicated to make a republic of North America (including Mexico and Canada) and one of South America (including Central America). In the meantime, it has become necessary to spy on American citizens and find ways to railroad them into detention camps on phony charges of 'terrorism'. This seems to be what Alberto Gonzalez does best, balk at human rights while saying the president has absolute power to supercede these rights. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Adolph Hitler think his power superceded human rights too? That's how far we have come...

Some would say that was then and this is now, but I 'm sure you see the similarities, even the irony of this and other situations. Like the Rainbow Children (which I call the Rainbow Family), people across this nation have to put their petty differences behind them and join together against this tyranny! It makes no difference what they call it in America, it must be truly recognized for what it is, tyranny and nothing less!!!

Now let's get busy before they start coming for the rest of us. Use what is given here and look for others sources to get help for us all.
by east of the divide
Wednesday Jun 28th, 2006 2:16 PM
There are no secondary sources for this story on the web at all.
No posts. No witnesses.
The colsest comes from COLO. indy media which says some got tickets and a police roadblock was put up that everyone seems to be able to sneak around.

There are no news accounts of any detentions.

Provide verification or remove this post. Its a big distraction.
by brother daniel
Wednesday Jun 28th, 2006 6:55 PM
Beloved ,
As a disciple of Jesus Christ I am concerned about what is being done in the name of the United States citizens against those who are gathering as THE RAINBOW FAMILY In their national assembly in Colorado.
For those who needa secondary witness, here is one.

By Deborah Frazier and Sue Lindsay, Rocky Mountain News
June 28, 2006
Rainbow Family members on trial for camping without a permit and other charges should be tried in a larger public courtroom – not a small, rural firehouse near Steamboat Springs, attorney David Lane said today.
In a complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Denver, Lane said the public and some of the attorneys for more than 200 Rainbow Family members facing trial were denied access.
He said the firehouse’s limited space effectively turned the trials into "secret proceedings," and he has asked for a temporary restraining order to stop the proceedings.
An estimated 20,000 members of the Rainbow Family plan to gather next week in the Routt National Forest, but they have been unable to get a permit for the gathering because of the fire danger. About 4,000 members have already arrived.
U.S. Marshals and Forest Service enforcement officers have arrested about 249 members for camping without a permit. Some also face alcohol and drugs charges.
The trials, which started last weekend and were scheduled to resume Friday, were held in the modest firehouse, which had room to seat the judge and 17 defendants and prosecutors. There was limited standing room for the public and the media.
"The Rainbow Family chose a remote location for their gathering, and the government wanted to provide a court facility that would not be inconvenient for them," said Jeff Dorschner, spokesman for the U.S. Attorney.
Dorschner said the trials were not closed to the public or the media, but the extra seats and standing room area was "first come" and "first served."
Federal officials were considering building a public address system so more people could listen to the proceedings outside the firehouse, he said
June 28, 2006

Remember its Jesus Christ who has died for us so that we could know how to LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
The price has been paid for our FREEDOM to do the right thing.
not freedom to trash out our neighbor
Let us be patient, gentile and kind.
With love in Christ
brother daniel


by Trueman
Thursday Jun 29th, 2006 1:39 AM
I appreciate being alerted to this situation by Mr. Wirtshafter. I must say immediately, however, that his please-ask-the-government-for-help remedy is WAY off-target in my opinion, but to be expected of an attorney at law (with all due respect to Mr. W. as a man).

The coporate government has NO authority to intrude on the PRIVATE rights of PRIVATE men and women operating in their PRIVATE capacity, outside of the realm of commerce, and it BACKS OFF when properly informed on the subject. This is not so much a 1st Amend. issue as one implicating the Fifth and 14th.

Anyone desiring a true, lasting remedy that he/she can read, understand, study, and USE for him/herself--without the need to be observed or "helped" by state-licensed "[a]ttorneys and legal observers"--may choose to visit peoples-rights.com and begin the (fairly short) journey to a happy, healthy, viable life FREE of "the system." Mr. W. is welcome to visit there, too. He sounds like a nice enough guy.

Just a friendly suggestion. I have no connection with the site mentioned, just compassion for apparently well-intentioned folks who don't know "who they are, where they are, or what time it is."

Your own freedom to act responsibly without government intrusion is MUCH closer than you may realize. I'll see you there.

Peace, love, joy.
by True Man
Thursday Jun 29th, 2006 1:43 AM
P.S. to my last (of two minutes ago):

The typo in the second word of the second paragraph of my posting was unintentional, a Freudian slip, if you will.

If you like it, you are free to use. I will not cop-yright it. :)
by Bill Freeman
(billfreeman [at] dodgeit.com) Thursday Jun 29th, 2006 4:05 PM
I am a nearby resident to the family gathering. I considered myself a flower child at one time, and still condsider myself quite liberal on most issues. The US circuit court has upheld the permit process via the US forest service. Many of the environmental values the family holds dear are parallel to the US Forest service. I was under the impression that every one of the participants would be willing to sign a form declaring that they would be responsable for protecting the wilderness areas they planned to enjoy. (I worry that this group isn't the same as the one I knew only 10 years ago.) The area selected for the gathering was perfect, back when we still got rain from time to time and foreign beetle species didn't decimate fir stands moving on to leave dead fuel for fire, and did I mention the freak meteorlogical event known to local residents as the "blowdown" that flattened thousands of acres in the area when the jet stream actually was forced down below 6000 feet. The area is beautiful and dangerous. One road in, same road out. I fear that the families of these kind and loving individuals will have stories compared to Whitesnake concertgoers in Rhode Island. Does the federal government have a responsability to keep people from camping on the lava fields of Hawaii or the crater of Mt. St. Helens? I think there should be an open dialogue between differing viewpoints considering the awareness level these recent events have brought 1st Ammendment concerns. You can't yell fire in a crowded theatre. That's a fact and the ACLU won't even touch that with a 10 ft pole. What happens with fire in a crowded forest?
by Karen Kilroy
Friday Jun 30th, 2006 8:58 AM
Thank you very much for the additional information.

The intent of the Common Dreams article, which I co-wrote, was to encourage discussion of what is happening before more serious problems are allowed to occur. Information from the Gathering has been very hard to come by, it seems to be trickling out days after things happen. We decided to take a wide swipe at this issue anyway in order to help get the word out, and we felt time was of the essence.

We have a diary on Daily Kos where updates can be posted - that is how I found your response.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/30/73135/8665

thanks again, and we'll be watching for updates.
Karen
by ACLU
Friday Jun 30th, 2006 3:56 PM
If you haven't already done so, contact the Colorado ACLU for possible help this year, and the state ACLU for whichever state you have the next gathering, for next year (http://www.ACLU.org):

American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado
400 Corona Street
Denver, Colorado 80218
(303) 777-5482
(303) 777-1773 fax
info [at] aclu-co.org
by Eris
Friday Jun 30th, 2006 10:09 PM
I live in Colorado. I'm pagan, and normally wouldn't have word one to say against this gathering. But right now our state is facing serious fire concerns. Families have lost homes, loved ones, livelihoods because of fires. Firfighters have been seriously and permently injured and have died because of the forest fires.

Lets be clear here, there are no secret evil trials going on. We have laws to protect the people in this state, one of those laws requires large gatherings to get a special permit. Which the Rainbow family did not even attempt to do until AFTER the Forest Service set up check points.

Lets also be clear, the members of the Rainbow family are the ones that began the intimidation, and the violence against the Forest Service for crying out loud.

In Colorado we have several festivals that happen, some are public and some are private. I go to a private one every year, we get the proper permits, and we abide by the posted fire restrictions.

You know why? Because to ignore them puts peoples lives at risk. But I guess none of you give a damn about us folk who live here in Colorado. I guess none of you give a damn about the Forest Service Rangers that have been injured, or intimiadated. Talk about Terrorist Tactics, 200 Rainbow family members surrounding 15 Rangers. Get real people, the only propaganda is coming out of the "Family" because they think our state laws don't apply to them.

News flash, you want to break the law, go to another state. If you all are responsible for starting another forest fire, one that takes lives, destroys homes, and kills fire fighters, as well as destroying our state forest lands, then I will be first in line to make damn sure you all are prosecuted to the fullest extent of our state laws.

I've read through two dozen reports so far, and only one, that is right only one talks about 1 single Ranger using excessive force, but there are dozens, including articles from indipendant and liberal agencies that have reports about the Family using aggression, violence and intimadation tactics.

Oh, and FYI, the trials are open to the public, its a small building, its first come first served, and there is also a PA system set up so that anyone outside can hear what is going on, which so far is only fines for violating state regulations.

You all are risking lives, homes, and our forest land, don't bitch when we say we don't want you here.

You all ought to be ashamed of yourselves, actually I might just drive up for the so-called bullshit Peace rally just so I can flash the pictures of the Rainbow family members throwing rocks and attacking Park Rangers around.

go home
by rabid
Friday Jun 30th, 2006 11:26 PM
keep coming to colorado, everyone. its unfortunate that i cant post this above the original scary post, but for anyone who continues this far down the page, dont be scared! after reading articles from several sources, i'm afraid that the article from on top of this page is mainly paranoid ramblings the end result of which seems aimed at scaring people away from the gathering.

the true situation is that a handful of people were pulled in on petty charges. several thousand have already arived at the camp without a problem.

so keep coming to steamboat springs. call local authorities and representatives for those being detained. be safe. be smart. drive in at night if youre worried about a small fine. and most importantly, pick up hitch hikers, i.e. me. see you all in a couple days!
by B.Free
Saturday Jul 1st, 2006 11:16 AM
Just a note to those worried about fire and Rainbow Gatherings. I attented 2 Gatherings (Arizona and Montana) during peak fire seasons. There were no fires caused by the Rainbow family during these gatherings and Although a sever fire later swept through the Montana site, it ocurred much later and after everyone had left and the site cleaned up. It was clear to me in Arizona that there were lots of fires raging miles away from the site. Most of the people at the gathering were very concerned about fire safety and tried to urge people not to smoke outside 'safe' areas. If there were fire circles they were carefully maintained and surrounded by large moats of water. And then it rained! (Arizona) Not so much rain in Montana, but there were no out of control fires. There seems to be a lot of 'hysteria' about Rainbow gatherings. Probably happens at the beginning of most all of them since 1972! Lets' just pray for Peace, Love and an end to hatred and cold-heartedness on both sides! Peace and Love, J. B. Free
by Christian LaHaroi
(veritasofthecathars [at] Gmail.com) Saturday Jul 1st, 2006 11:48 AM
THANKS! This sort of balanced reporting is ESSENTIAL in order to give credance to the reporting, & to keep these sorts of "events" (both the "Gathering" as well as the "Official" resistance) out there in the public domain, with appreciable value!

For our National Interests, such events as the "Gatherings" SHOULD be fully reported, & ALL "reactions" equally & openly reported, (minus emotionalisms & cliche' sensationalisms). That will make any sorts of "Official" or "Gathering" missdeeds less likely, and definately more easily determined, as to the "perps" & the innocent!

Keep up the good & balanced work! THANKS AGAIN!
by Wednesday
Saturday Jul 1st, 2006 12:55 PM
Do not let fear hold you back from going HOME.
Know your rights, and speak softly.
Let your light shine and your smile be true.
C'ya all at high noon on the 4th!!!
by peludo
Saturday Jul 1st, 2006 2:38 PM
A few years back at an annual regional gathering in Ocala National Forest (FL) a fire was started by some (non-Rainbow) local fisherman that were camped nearby the gathering. Although there was speculation that it might have been intentionally started to sabotage and create trouble for the Rainbows, it was only speculation.

However, it was Rainbows, in an incredibly concerted effort of coordinated yet improvised teamwork that did put the fire out. It was truly a marvel to watch and participate in. That's not to say that there aren't knuckleheads at these gatherings who could just as easily start one....

Please pass this URL on to all:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wrh_9-11_index.html
by maus
Monday Jul 3rd, 2006 12:02 AM
as a pagan, you'd agree that wild fires are a natural function of forests...i'd think. not that anyone except a wingnut would purposely set one. a fire-watch patrol has been a long-standing tradition at rainbow gatherings. individuals who join forces to police any and all open fires. putting out dangerous ones, and educating folks about how to have a safe one. that's all they do, or mostly all. and with the exception of a few yahoo incidents here and there, the fire-watch finds more safe fires than not. this is because for the most part, gatherers being somewhat of the tree-hugger variety know about root fires, and thus remove roots from under and around their fire pits to the depth/radius of two feet. what i'm saying here is not that there is no risk from fire, but that there is less risk than you might think, and certainly less risk than when your average idiot goes camping.

the state laws you mention - permits and such. the gathering is on federal land...that's federal laws. the reasons there was no permit applied for is A) freedom of assembly, B) freedom of religion, C) if one lets the forest service know where a gathering will be beforehand, they're likely to go in and plant saplings in all the meadows a few weeks before anyone arrives (i've seen this), or otherwise attempt to prevent the gathering from happening.

let me be clear, people who bring sidearms to a gathering of largely un-armed people are the ones who begin the intimidation. the violence (and threat of it) and intimidation of mostly peaceable gatherers by law enforcement goons has been going on since the very first rainbow gathering in 1972. there's a history here if you're willing to acknowledge it.

p.s. himmler was a pagan too, so don't think that earns you any points.
by ex-Rainbow Guy
Tuesday Jul 4th, 2006 5:34 AM
I USED to attend RF gatherings for YEARS. I stopped attending when I realized the environmental DAMAGE they do. I agree with this person 100%. SORRY, you can call me and him names which is what a lot of RF people do to defend their taking over the forests. Many Earth loving Pagans have distanced thamselves from the Rainbow Family. I saw people being hurt at RF gatherings. Sick people being hurt there. Needy, depressed and Suicidal people being treated like garbage, Women being sexually harrassed and I am SURE now that RF defenders will call me a "wingnut" which is their favorite name to DISCOUNT and marginalize people, or other bad names. They always hate their critics. Whenever anyone posts a criticism of them they ALWAYS have to attack their critics including those who attended MANY RF gatherings in the past. I am glad I left their gatherings many years ago. I will NEVER go back! I prefer to let the forests be free of an invasion of thousands of humans.THIS GOES FOR ANY LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE!
Once I saw a developmentally abused young man with staph infection being abused by his RF caregivers at a gathering and nobody helped him. The caregivers made him sleep under their schoolbus IN THE POUORING RAIN with their dogs and when I asked them why, they said he was misbehaving. Of course posters here will say, "that is not the whole group" and it is NOT the whole group, but others in the RF just sit by and LET many isolated incidents like this happen. They don't lift a finger to STOP them from happening. They don't report these incidents to outside authorities or stop them themselves. If and when they do, it is way too late. The damage to the victims is already done. I saw plenty of such incidents. I saw a suicidal woman getting NO real professional help there for years. She was left to suffer and people called her names and made fun of her. She was blamed for being too needy and dependent on the RF for support.She would attempt suicide right at their gatherings! They would stop her but she would be back doing it again and again and they would NEVER take her to any hospitals or clinics outside of their gatherings and then when the gatherings were over they sent her on her way. Some would hug her, and tell her they loved her, but it did not help her in the least! Her depression was severe and obviously due to a chemical imbalance! Another young woman, "Laughing Deer", also had chronic mental health problems (in and out of mental hospitals) and she was sexually used by guys) and she did not get any real help at all the RF gatherings she attended. She claimed a guy raped her and she wsa called a "crazy wingnut" even though other women said the SAME guy raped them too! But nothing was done to the guy! That was in 1989 at the Nevada National Gatherings and the guy had plenty of defenders. He got away with it. Whether he raped her or not, nothing was done to him. He was popular in The Rainbow Family. They do turn over some people to police though. They do turn over child molestors which is good. They have turned over murderers. They even beat up child molestors at Rainbow gatherings. They protect children and put children first. There are loving people there too. . But there is also sexual harrassment of young women there. I know there will be lots of posts to DISCOUNT this post now because that is what they do when criticized. It happens all the time. For all the "crazy wingnuts" who used to attend RF gatherings who were HURT there, I SUPPORT YOU! for the forest animals and the cats and dogs who are dumped there when the gathering is over, I am glad I am not contributing to the destruction of Mother Earth by attenting anymore. As for forest fires, YES THAT IS A REAL DANGER! The forest animals cannot speak for themselves. ANY large group ought to think of that right now.
I saw other things which I would rather NOT post about.
by Brother Daniel
(bglinsmann [at] comcast.net) Wednesday Jul 5th, 2006 10:45 AM
Dear Brother everything you have said is great except one thing about JESUS you can believe he died for our sins but we are not sinner and not born one either. HE DIED TO LET US ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEATH. YOU ARE NOT YOUR BODY MY FRIEND. It is for the use of living to learn the joys of having a body and experiencing life in it the joys the sorrows and the greatest of all the LOVE
by Eochaidh MacDhalaigh OghaChruithne
Tuesday Jul 11th, 2006 10:09 PM
If anyone is ever in the Lordsburg, New Mexico area, feel free to stop by for a meal, place to park or sleep, and gas. I can also show you some isolated places to camp.

1325 South Animas Street

505-542-3587
by chuck
Tuesday Jul 18th, 2006 8:13 AM
rainbows dont trash the forest. the forest service does this. there are TONS of links out there about the STELLAR clean-up efforst of rainbow. get your facts straight and use your HEART to decide
TRUTH.

the forrest (dis)serice allows logging, cattle ranching, and deveploment on public land. rainbows are just people using OUR land.


LOVE is the answer
by link
Tuesday Jul 18th, 2006 8:54 AM
Don Hopey, Staff Writer, "Post-Gazette." Pittsburg, PA. Sunday, July 4, 1999.
" The Rainbow Family's annual be-in features thousands of people, music and light in the forest" http://www.post-gazette.com/regionstate/19990704rrainbow1.asp

Checkpoints and roadblocks used at the Rainbow's 1996 gathering in Missouri bought the government agency a federal lawsuit that was decided in the Rainbows' favor last week. Noting that the gauntlet of checkpoints at the gathering of 15,000 uncovered only four felony drug cases worth pursuing, Senior U.S. District Judge Russell Clark said targeting the group was unacceptable and ordered it stopped. "Subjecting Rainbow Family members to a 'shakedown' to achieve ignominious results," Clark wrote in his opinion, "should strike fear into any citizen who values ... personal liberty." Rose Davis, a Forest Service spokeswoman with the National Incident Management team, said checkpoints hadn't been used since 1996. She said police patrols through Friday had issued 147 violation notices, the majority for traffic violations. " She knew of no felony reports.
by tibor
Friday Jul 21st, 2006 11:18 PM
Howdy folks,
My first gathering was Montana 1976 ,Glacier National Forest.It changed my life and I became very involved. I have been to all the gatherings on the west half of the country ever since except this year. This was the first time in 30 years that I voluntarily refused to partake.Let me explain and I hope that maybe I can gain support for some changes.
Rainbow Gatherings,to me, are a very inportant event in our culture and a necessary expression of our right to peaceably assemble to pray for world peace.In the 1980's the concept of a trade "circle" came up and I was vehamently against it in council.Rainbow is about sharing spirit not stuff. There is a time and place for all things and barter fairs are for stuff and Rainbow is all about leaving stuff behind and sharing everything and being ONE IN THE SPIRIT. Well that changed with the trade"circle".At my last gathering 2 years ago it was quite evident that my view 25 years ago was right. Trading has taken away the focus of rainbow and become a real negative energy.It is the dirtiest place and needs the most rehab after the 7th. It draws people who have no interest in the true gathering and has, to me, made it hard to focus folks for real healing of the earth and sharing spirit on the highest level. This is not to say that is still doesn't go on but it has become more difficult. For years I have tried to rile up the "old timers" to do away with the trading with no support so I have finally.regretfully.given up and and decided after 30 years to no longer attend until changes happen.It really is too bad because of how inportant gathering is to me.I am taking this time to see if there is any hope for change. Opinions? Tibor
by Bush
Friday Jul 28th, 2006 12:55 PM
Everyone has a belly button. That means everyone has fulfilled all requirements to be a rainbow. That means if they make all rainbows terrorists they have made you a terrorist. Come on, if you have fulfilled all the requirements to join this organization, how can you claim not to be a member. The rainbow family does not represent me. I do not represent it. But if I do nothing to protect the religious freedoms of others, I should not be surprised when I loose my own religious freedoms. Imagine the Nazis insisting I'm Jewish because I was circumcised.
Rev. J. Bush
by ex-maybe-futurehitchhiker
Sunday Jul 30th, 2006 9:51 AM
went to my first in 79....got naked...got baptized...rumors of federal tough guys patrolling around the margins there in Arizona....electronic ELF or VLF
broadcast attacks on the People alleged by some....folks getting spasmodically sick and headache---my first sweat lodge....pounding the drums 'til my hands were swollen....fun and frolic.....wheat grass-veggie
viktoras kulvinskas spoke on his "survival into the 21st century" book.
also other various types of vegan--organic--spiritual disciplines around the
site.....but yes, the negative stuff is real....at the last one i attended in '92
there seemed to be way too much of a street-punk, hostile talking, jail-type of characters hanging around with their "fuk-the-world" kind of
attitude right there around the welcome center....this trip about tolerating
the "A" camp....I figure goddm drunks deserve to be jailed and forced
into rehab....can't stand Rainbow liberty-advocates speaking in a pollyanna manner, protecting scumbag undisciplined delinquent bums,
degenerates, who would be castigated, despized, and runn-oft from any
real tribal-society camp. Now we get the "Let's Roll" brainwashed Jock
so-called "law enforcement officers" who haven't got the slightest idea what our American constitution is all about---these uniformed parasites.
I won't be going again to one of these....they hassle even regular-old van campers in the woods these days....folks who are not even setting out their stuff on a picnic table much less making a fire.....it is all about pushy pig mentality being enforced among the cop
conspiracy in all government agencies....they need to justify their continued revenue-extortion policing so they can all get their promotions and continued funding and justification for more police combat--assault weapons so they can be big tough guaranteed-salary
boos boys over all us mere hippie peasants....
...We have certainly proved over and over again that we don't need the Federal, State nor Secret authorities wasting taxpayer dollars to hassle
our people as we all attend and exercise our God-given and Constitutionally recognized Rights....it is a fact....go ahead be an Evil
member of a Secret Criminal police agency if you really think it is
what God intended for you....but just be sure you understand, all you police...You, Poleece-Man, are Stealing from us Good people when you invent reasons
and exaggerate infractions to arrest and charge people money
and cost people their jobs, and pay for your disgusting overtime by selectively enforcing ticketable "offenses"....we are not going to tolerate your traffic-stop, revenue-extortion activities when all this corrupt gubbermint ship hits the fan, which appears to be very soon....all you
tough boys in your nice uniforms will have to get a REAL JOB in which you actually PRODUCE something beneficial for society, becaus we aren't going to let your thieving punk criminal asses continue to live in our neighborhoods...
by individual
Thursday Aug 10th, 2006 4:32 PM
That is incredible, and so reminiscent of my experiences. I don't work for the government or any agencies but I will certainly think a lot about this when I am next at the scene. I like rainbows. And pillows. Oh - and Ialso like movies that talk about alternative worlds - they make me laugh a lot! Think of a number between one and ten. Imagine it. Got it? Well I have too - it's the number, oops hang on I've dropped - no I got it! It is the number seven. I knew it all along. There we go, a great trick for all you rainbow loving folk!
by BS Detective
Wednesday Jul 9th, 2008 5:44 PM
It's stupid to blindly accept the Rainbow version of the evern. Just as it's stupid to blindly accept the law enforcement verion of events. The Rainbow family is a cult, like $cientology. They train their members to provoke the LEOs to make themselves look like victims whenever they are getting a lot of bad press. When 7000 people show up on public lands, they leave behind feces and uring. The Rainbows don't have degrees in environmental science. They create their own reality. When you bury 4.2 tons of human feces in mother earth (a conservative estimate for the 6 days of the main even) it seeps into the ground, it gets into the water table, it threatens fragile environments. Rainbows tend to love mother earth to death. They don't understand the impact that their huge numbers has on the environment and they're too woo woo to trust modern science to measure the levels of e coli and other nasty stuff they ALWAYS leave behind them. The Rainbows were starting to get a lot of bad press about not getting a permit - part of the permit process determines the environmental and cultural impact that the gathering would have. The Rainbows refuse to listen to anyone outside of their cult - especially the Shoshone who don't want them disturbing culturally senstivie areas. Not getting a permit alllows the Rainbows to ignore the concerns of true environmentalists, nature lovers and indigenous people and just do what they want to. The Rainbows should be held to the same standards of proof that everyone else is and they should have to obey all the environmental/cultural laws that are they to protect all of us. The Rainbows new they were losing popular support so they provoked a confrontation with the FS. They use weapons of mass distraction just as skillfully as the neo-cons do. They are not the canarys in the coal mine in terms of civils rights. They are spoiled children who successfully maniupulate the media and get everyone to look at the forest service's behavior so that no one looks too closely at the Rainbow's behavior.

A good blog on this subject is I Speak of Dreams

http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2004/07/rainbow_family_.html

Don't believe everything you hear -- especially if it comes from a Rainbow.
They are a cult.
They know a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth.