Google China Adopts New Logo

We are all waiting for Bush administration whistleblowers!

Who is brave enough to whistle-blow Google?

the chinese people overwhelmingly support their government, which in turn is successfully providing unprecedented prosperity to an unprecedented number of chinese people.

maybe your righteous indignation over western-style "rights" &c. is a form of 21st century cultural imperialism?

especially when these "rights" are under such intense assault at home.

just asking.

>>the chinese people overwhelmingly
>>support their government,

And you base this upon what? Did you do some independent randomized polling? Or was it the results of the free and open public elections that never happened? Maybe, for you, it's the lack of an overt internal revolutionary movement? For you, does the phrase "Tiananmen Square" bring to mind memories of the loyal masses singing the praises of their glorious rulers? Maybe you've forgotten the killings, the repression of an authentic movement for the peoples' freedom, the lengthy prison sentences for idealistic young activists.


>>[the govt] which in turn is successfully
>>providing unprecedented prosperity to an
>>unprecedented number of chinese people.

Let us henceforth hold high the marketplace as the sole arbiter by which to determine the quality of life of a people. All else shall be deemed "externalities" not worthy of further mention.


>>maybe your righteous indignation
>>over western-style "rights" &c. is
>>a form of 21st century cultural
>>imperialism?

Ah, yes. Why didn't I realize it before? My insistence that all persons should be free to think and speak openly of their beliefs and desires is merely "cultural imperialism." I didn't realize that freedom was "western", apparently not valued or understood by others.

Freedom is neither "western" nor "eastern." It beats in the heart of every individual who recognizes the shackles of her oppression. Freedom -- not as a concept, but as a tangible reality -- is that thing which is most feared and despised by bullies, thugs and murderers, regardless of which idiotic flag they insist that their victims salute.


>>especially when these
>>"rights" are under such intense
>>assault at home.

Once again, we are chastised as hypocrites because we call for the freedom of others at a time when our own freedoms are in jeopardy. Should I ignore the oppression of billions of others? Should I remain silent about the crimes committed by a murderous government "over there" simply because I live under a murderous and increasingly oppressive government "over here"? Your criticism would be valid, perhaps, if I were silent about the the crimes of the murderers and thieves who rule the country in which I live. But I am not silent. I will not stand mute in the face of evil, wherever it appears.

what was cut:

"But I am not silent. I will not stand mute in the face of evil, wherever it appears."


oh joy. here come the americans, to "free" us all again...

the Chinese aren't censoring anything. they're simply refusing to pay for messages they disagree with on the part of the internet they pay for.

something liek the right indymedia asserts to control for content that fits the mission, you might say.

what, would you deny others the rights you demand for yourself?

>the Chinese aren't censoring anything

This is simply false. The Chinese government itself admits, quite openly, that it censors many many things, including the internet.

Anyone who would suggest otherwise is shockingly ignorant.

they are simply choosing to control for content on the network they pay for.

something like indymedia doesnt like to leave a lot of rightwing spam all about.


or do you censor it?

>they are simply choosing to control
>for content on the network they pay for.

The officials of the Chinese government are political rulers. They don't "own" China and they don't pay for anything. It is not "their" network.

The rulers are cowardly tyrants who regularly use violence and intimidation to suppress the people.

People in China, like people everywhere, must have freedom of conscience and freedom of speech.