Weekly Summary of israeli War Crimes

Maybe Sharon's stroke will be a blessing

That's fucking hilarious. Praise the "fight against 'islamofascism' (sounds like rush, o-reilly, and the rest of the AM radio lunatics)
While you guys are praising the nut who has been blocked here for 24-7 flame-baiting and threats to Indybay posters, why don't you check out the freerepublic site--more your nut-speed.

On the other thread, yid????
Notice how rabid pro-israel nuts avoid discussing anything that may shed a light on the roots of Israeli terrorism.

See:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?B23712A6C


Encyclopædia Britannica Article


His comment “If I had been born a Palestinian, I would have joined a terrorist organization and have fought from there” was seen as an indication of his character.
Still waiting.

Yeah, maybe the quote from Iran about 'wiping Israel off of the map' needs context, too, right?

For you Arabic speakers, here's the full text. Happy? Now thats context:
http://www.isna.ir/Main/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-603386

Check out his visual aids, if your arabic is sub-par

... to these clowns when the quotes come from the zionist side. Meanwhile, if an opponent e.g. Ahmadinejad says something off-color, do they ever say anything like "a quote out of context is meaningless?" It is to laugh! They deliberately drain such quotes of all context. If the quote itself isn't damaging enough, they destroy context further by paraphrasing it via their distinctive warped manipulative interpretations.

Meanwhile they remain convinced you're too stupid to notice the double standard. It brings to mind how Abramoff defamed those four Indian tribes as they were were handing him millions: "troglodytes," "morons," "monkeys." Apparently this is what zionists think of everyone (else)

I've never seen such arrogant liars! 'Arrogant liar' must be what 'chutzpah' really means

Transcript as follows

I am grateful to God for giving me the great pleasure of speaking at this very important gathering. I thank God for seeing the pious faces of you, the valiant, aware, God-fearing and selfless children of the revolution, who understand with vigilance and intelligence the most important issues of our times and are active with great zest and in a decisive way in the most central issues of the Islamic world. I thank God for the presence of you dear young people.

The real question is what is Zionism? No doubt there have been many discussions in this conference on this issue and you have made studies in this regard, and you may know what I want to emphasize, but it is something worth mentioning.

We must see what the real story of Palestine is. Is the conflict in Palestine a war between some Jews on the one side and Muslims and non-Jews on the other side? Is it a war between the Jews and other faiths? Is it the war of one country with other countries? Is it the war of one country with the Arab world? Is the conflict only over the limited lands of Palestine? I think the answer to all these questions is negative.

The creation of the regime occupying Al-Qods (Jerusalem) was a heavy move by the globally dominant system and Global Arrogance against the Islamic world. There is a historic battle going on between the Oppressor World and the Islamic world and the roots of this conflict goes back hundreds of years.

In this historic conflict, the fronts have shifted many times. There were times when the Muslims had the upper hand and were active and forward-moving, while the Oppressor World was on retreat.

Unfortunately, in the past three hundred years, the Islamic world has been on retreat in the face of the Oppressor World.

I do not intend to go to the roots of the issue and I concentrate on a historical review of the events. In the past one hundred years, the last trenches of the Islamic world fell and the Oppressor World created the regime occupying Al-Qods as the bridgehead for its domination of the Islamic world. Bridgehead is a military term in warfare. When two divisions or armies are fighting each other, if one side advances and breaks through the front and captures a piece of enemy territory and builds up fortifications and strengthens its hold to make it a base for further territorial expansion, then we call this a bridgehead.

The occupying state (Israel) is the bridgehead of the Oppressor World in the heart of the Islamic world. They have built a base to expand their domination to the entire Islamic world. There is no other raison d’etre for this entity without this objective.

The battle that is going on in Palestine today, therefore, is the frontline of the conflict between the Islamic world and the Oppressor World. It is a battle of destiny that will determine the fate of hundreds of years of conflict in Palestine.

Today, the Palestinian nation is fighting the Oppressor World on behalf of the Islamic umma (nation). Thank God, from the day the Palestinian nation moved towards an Islamic struggle with Islamic objectives and an Islamic environment, and made Islam the dominating force in its behaviour and orientation, we have been witnessing the progress and successes of the Palestinian nation every day.

I must say that you have chosen a very valuable title for your gathering [World Without Zionism]. Many are sowing the seeds of defeat and despair in this all-out war between the Islamic world and the Infidel Front, hoping to dishearten the Islamic world.

Such people are using words like “it’s not possible”. They say how could we have a world without America and Zionism? But you know well that this slogan and goal can be achieved and can definitely be realised”.

If we take a look back, we had in our country a regime that was very violent, anti-popular, dependent on foreigners, and armed to its teeth. Members of SAVAK [the Shah’s secret police] controlled every move and a terrible reign of terror existed.

But when the dear Imam [Ruhollah Khomeini] said this regime must be destroyed, and we want a world without a client state, many of those who claim to be political gurus and other things said it’s not possible. The day when the Imam started his move, all the powers of the world supported that corrupt regime. Even after the massacre of Black Friday, the West and the East and regional powers all supported the regime. But our nation fought and now for 27 years we have a government that is independent of America. The Imam said the domination of the East and the West must be destroyed, but weak-minded persons, who only see the little world around them, didn’t believe him…

Our dear Imam ordered that the occupying regime in Al-Qods be wiped off the face of the earth. This was a very wise statement. The issue of Palestine is not one on which we could make a piecemeal compromise… This would mean our defeat. Anyone who would recognize this state [Israel] has put his signature under the defeat of the Islamic world.

In his struggle against the World Arrogance, our dear Imam targeted the central and command base of the enemy, namely the occupying regime in Al-Qods. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in dear Palestine and which we witness today all over the Islamic world will soon wipe this scourge of shame from the Islamic world. This can be done.

We have to watch out for conspiracies. For more than 50 years, the World Arrogance has tried to give recognition to the existence of this fake regime [Israel] and they have make many efforts to first stabilize it and then take further steps.

Some 27 or 28 years ago, they took an important step in this regard and, unfortunately, one of the frontline countries made this mistake, and we hope that country [Egypt] will rectify its mistake.

Recently, a new conspiracy has been plotted and is underway. They have been forced to evacuate a corner of Palestine and this was imposed on them by the Palestinian nation. But they want to sell this as the final victory and use the evacuation of Gaza and the creation of a Palestinian state as an excuse to end the Palestinian cause and goal.

Today they are making an evil and deceptive effort to turn the struggle into an internal conflict of the Islamic world. They want to create conflict among Palestinian groups inside Palestine by making them greedy for political positions or high office, so that these groups abandon the decisive issue fo Palestine and turn on each other.

With the excuse of having cleared the Gaza Strip to show their good will, they want a group of Muslim nations to recognise this corrupt regime, and I am very hopeful and pray to God that the Palestinian nation and the dear Palestinian groups will be cautious of such sedition.

Today the unity of the front in Palestine on its goals is a pressing necessity. The issue of Palestine is by no means finished. The issue of Palestine will only be resolved when all of Palestine comes under Palestinian rule, when all the refugees return to their homes, and when a popular government chosen by this nation takes the affairs in its hands. Of course, those who have come to this land from far away to plunder this land have no right to participate in the decision-making process for this nation.

I am hopeful that just as the Palestinian nation continued its struggle for the past ten years, it will continue to maintain its awareness and vigilance. This phase is going to be short-lived. If we put it behind us successfully, God willing, it will pave the way for the annihilation of the Zionist regime and it will be a downhill route.

I warn all the leaders in the Islamic world to beware of this conspiracy. If any of them takes a step towards the recognition of this regime [Israel], then he will burn in the fire of the Islamic umma (nation) and will have eternal shame stamped on his forehead, regardless of whether he did this under pressure by the dominant powers, or lack of understanding or naiveté or selfishness or worldly incentives.

The issue of Palestine is the issue of the Islamic world. Those who are closeted behind closed doors cannot make decisions on this issue and the Islamic nation does not allow this historical enemy to exist at the heart of the Islamic world.

... to these clowns when the quotes come from the zionist side. Meanwhile, if an opponent e.g. Ahmadinejad says something off-color, do they ever say anything like "a quote out of context is meaningless?" It is to laugh! They deliberately drain such quotes of all context. If the quote itself isn't damaging enough, they destroy context further by paraphrasing it via their distinctive warped manipulative interpretations.

Try your cornflakes or under your bed if you are looking for double standards.

It brings to mind how Abramoff defamed those four Indian tribes as they were were handing him millions: "troglodytes," "morons," "monkeys." Apparently this is what zionists think of everyone (else)

Ah- one of the primary and defining characteristics of the racist anti-semite- stereotyping an entire nation based on the actions of one individual. Honestly, Tiny, thats so 1950's.

We are waiting for the apology.

“If I had been born a Palestinian, I would have joined a terrorist organization and have fought from there” was seen as an indication of his character

Barak, Ehud

On May 17, 1999, Ehud Barak won a commanding victory in Israeli national elections to become the country's new prime minister. At the head of a Labor-dominated coalition, he defeated ruling Likud prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. At the same time, centrist parties increased their seats in the Knesset. The election results were seen as a turning away from the hard-line policies, particularly in relations with the Palestinians, pursued by Netanyahu.

Ehud Brog (he changed his name when he entered the army) was born on Feb. 12, 1942, in the Mishmar Hasharon kibbutz. His father, who had emigrated from Lithuania, had founded the settlement in 1932. The son was drafted into the Israel Defense Forces in 1959, thus beginning a distinguished military career. He was a commander in battles in the Six-Day War (1967) and the Yom Kippur War (1973) but became known especially as the leader of special forces units that conducted commando raids. These included a group of soldiers (with Netanyahu among them) who stormed an airliner hijacked by Palestinian guerrillas at Lod International Airport in 1972. Barak served as head of military intelligence, and he became chief of General Staff in 1991. When he retired in 1995 as a lieutenant general, the highest rank, he was the most decorated soldier in the history of Israel's military.

Barak received a B.Sc. degree in physics and mathematics in 1968 from Hebrew University of Jerusalem and an M.Sc. degree in 1978 in economic engineering systems from Stanford University in California. While in the military he played a part in negotiations that resulted in the 1994 peace treaty with Jordan. Under Labor governments he was minister of the interior in 1995 and of foreign affairs in 1995–96. In June 1997 he became head of the Labor Party.

Barak ran under the coalition One Israel, which included Labor as well as the Gesher Party and Meimad, the latter a spin-off of the National Religious Party. In the campaign, which employed a number of American political consultants, Barak emphasized economic and other domestic issues, including education and health services, as well as relations with the Palestinians and with Syria and Lebanon. His comment “If I had been born a Palestinian, I would have joined a terrorist organization and have fought from there” was seen as an indication of his character. The withdrawal of minor candidates late in the campaign allowed a face-off between Netanyahu and Barak, who won just over 56% of the popular vote. His Cabinet, announced in July, was extraordinarily diverse and seemed especially designed for political purposes. In August Barak announced that Israel would resume implementation of the 1998 Wye Memorandum, which called for withdrawal from parts of the West Bank in return for Palestinian guarantees of security, although on a revised schedule. In December Barak met in Washington D.C., with Syrian Foreign Minister Farouk ash-Shara to discuss the Golan Heights issue.

In context it sounds like an expression of a willingness to negotiate with Palestinian terrorists, which is exactly what Barak tried to do. Of course, in return, he got the Intifada.

It's "racist" to characterize rabid pro-Israel bigots, aka zionists, as arrogant liars?

Hey-hey, wuddayaknow! Another arrogant lie!

Would some how construe this as willing to negotiate, rather than a rare moment of honesty in which he said he would do the same thing if born into the same fucked up conditions.
What about this quote?
"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
David Ben-Gurion

A biography isn't "context"- We are waiting for the rest of the speech.

If anything, the quote shows a tremendous empathy for the Palestinians. I'd need to see how it was used to really determine what was meant.

The waiting is the hardest part.

A nut of euqal insanity
This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy."
Golda Meir

... you wouldn't be making the first peep about context, that much is blatant.

If you think the dialogue in which Barak's comment occured is so important, why don't YOU dig it out?? Ah, but then you don't get to play monkey-master, huh? Yah, make them monkeys jump!

Waiting for zionists to stop being monstrous bigots is the hardest part.

Yeah, well I checked the Golda quote--it's good, verifiable from many sources.
So, what do you think of it now? Or are you going to avoid, as usual?
is their a "God given right to the land"?

No. Regularly the zionists cherrypick a FEW from a list and "prove" them fraudulent with canned arguments supplied by MEMRI etc. And then they invoke the fallacy that ALL are false because of the few.

If it's really true that they're all false, then it's up to you to expose them as such in every case. Put up or shut up.

Do your own research. Some of us have jobs.

I don't usually visit Indybay during business hours, but when I do I almost always enter a fray of zionist gatekeepers going nuts trying to keep everybody screamed down. Yeah, some of them "have jobs," all right: hanging out on Indybay bitching and bawling 9-5 M-F

Anyway, I come here and find them in a feeding frenzy and then I start going 'round buttfucking them all with my foot and they all RRRRRRUUUUUUUUNNNN!! It never fails.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!! i LUV it!!

GazaDisney management upbeat despite slow start

One month after its opening, the Gaza Disneyland theme park -- just a stone's throw from Gaza City -- is not proving to be the cultural invasion that management thought it would be.

One reason for this appears to be the inability of Palestinians to break their lifelong habits of mass homicide. Several families, one ticket seller and one mascot were vaporized when one Palestinian father mistakenly forgot to defuse the bomb he had strapped to his month-old child just three weeks earlier.

On Monday, a cool and blustery day and the first after Palestinian school holidays (Q'il Ahjoo and D'eth T'uizrail), many of the British, Italian and Dutch visitors ran away when GazaDisney workers, known as cast members, shot their rifles in the air for no apparent reason.

The rides are also turning visitors away, as the themes are considered objectionable and really not all that much fun. In a survey conducted by the park it was found that 23% didn't like the name of Mad Yasser's Whirling Kassam Rockets, 48% did not find favor with the Big Brainwash Mountain Roller-Coaster and 92% objected to the title of the Q'uranaway Train.

Judging from anecdotal reports and estimates of rail and road traffic between Gaza City and M'urdr Infd'els, 32 bombed-out neighborhoods to the east where the park is situated, Gaza Disneyland has not so far been a big draw in the capital.

"We believe we can attract visitors if we keep the murder rate down a bit," said Yasir Araslim, CEO of GazaDisney. "Right now, 1 out of 5 visitors die by misadventure. If we can lower the casualty rate to 1 out of 10, we believe we can generate significant revenue. It seems that people who don't die are better repeat customer canditates."

The few tourists that didn't die have cited displeasure with the overall experience. "This park is ridiculous," said Patty Mendrum, a visitor from France, "First of all, I am never getting on a ride called Land Mines of Allah. Secondly, ugh, I think their hot dogs are literally hot dogs! Thirdly, I got questioned by some costumed mascots about my virginity, something about their suicide bomber program. I am so out of here."

and more informative
http://www.ifamericansknew.org

You do vitrol better than humor, Tiny. Don't quit your day job

That was supposed to be humor? Pretty telling.

@%<

The use of "quotes" at Indy bay is simply an attempt to poison the other side. Its proganda at its worst. It neither enhances dialog nor adds to the level of information circulating. Its simply meant to enflame-you are just playing "gotcha", and we are tired of it.
For all of your "quotes"- we have dozens of our own- and what do they prove?

The unwillingness of the anti-Zionists to engage in meaningful dialog in the Bay area doesn't bode well for the world. If we can't talk meaningfully here, thousands of miles away from the conflict, how can we even hope that peace is even possible?

Just hoping for better behavior all around. The moderators have given us a repreive from auto-blocking. We should make the best of it, not the worst of it.

It makes it hard to blindly defend israel and its' leaders when they make quotes that clearly contradict or expose hypocrisy in the usual zionist talking points.
I thought TW's humor was just as funny as that other crap.
Once again, shows hypocrisy in the pro-israel camp.

Are you joking? Or have you only read posts here occasionaly? Yid has never just posted on thread he thought 'factually inaccurate'. He posted on EVERY thread related to Israel, and posted flaming/trolling comments ad infinatum in response to every posted comment. That's called 'gatekeeping' He's also threatened posters here.
Maybe you missed that, too. gehrig frequently adds nothing to discussion/debate. He simply makes provacative comments in response to other comments. Blind defense of Israel, or those trolling for Israel doesn't help your cause.

I read often- I post irregularly. So check- right now. The vast majority don't have any comments by Yid or by Gehrig. You don't see your own role in this at all do you?

denial is not a river in Egypt . Read the hidden comments. For months.

And a spoonful of hyperbole doesn't make the medicine go down.
They post on some- perhaps many threads. You said "Every".

Every is not accurate.