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False charge against topfree two
SUN says: "Nude isn't lewd. And toplessness isn't even nude. So why did CHP charge two topfree women demonstrators with lewd nudity?"
CHP charge of PC 314 won't stick to bare political breasts
(1) Will the Sacramento district attorney try to prosecute two topfree women protestors
for PC 314 (as charged by California Highway Patrol)?
(2) According to SF Chronicle, the CHP cited Sheryl Glaser and Renee Love for
"indecent exposure", when they bared their breasts at a political demonstration, Nov. 7.
[ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/08/BAGIEFKN801.DTL&hw=topless&sn=001&sc=1000 ]
In this context, "indecent exposure" presumably means a violation of section 314 of the
California Penal Code, which forbids one to "wilfully and lewdly" expose one's body,
"or the private parts thereof".
[ I quote from fallible memory; so please double-check.]
(3) A charge of PC 314 doesn't fit the bare facts of Nov. 7; for several reasons.
(A) Under PC 314, mere nudity isn't lewd, without aggravating factors.
In 1972, the California Supreme Court handed down a decision called IN RE SMITH,
about a male nudist who had been arrested while sunbathing at an isolated beach
which was traditionally, tho (then) furtively, used by nude sunbathers. If Smith had noticed police approaching, he would have hastily covered up, as others did; but he had fallen asleep.
On appeal, his lawyers argued that lewdness was a necessary element of the crime denounced by PC 314. Local authorities argued that public nudity was inherently lewd, prima facie,
without any further need for a prosecutor to prove lewdness.
California's Supreme Court sided with Smith. Since 1972, to prove a charge of PC 314,
the district attorney must show not only that the person was naked (or at least exposing "private parts"),
but also that the exposure was done lewdly.
Indeed, male exhibitionists often make their lewd intent crudely obvious, by their words or actions;
behavng quite differently from most sunbathers, let alone from most political demonstrators.
Could the district attorney of Sacramento County convince a jury that these two bare-breasted
political protesters were motivated by lewd urges? Not likely.
Indeed, I would be surprised if the D.A. even bothers to file a charge of PC 314 in this case.
(B) Secondly, just what does the term "private parts" mean in the 21st century
-- or even in the 19th century?
Clearly this phrase includes genitals.
But does "private parts" also include breasts?
And if it includes breasts,
does it include only those breasts which are attached to women?
(4) Please note that I haven't begun to address any questions of free speech, symbolic speech, political speech, et cetera.
If such broad issues need to be raised in this case, I hope the protestors will base their constitutional arguments on our California state constitution, rather than on federal grounds.
Tortuga Bi LIBERTY,
for Senior Unlimited Nudes (SUN) of San Francisco
8 November 2005, Special Election Day
nakity-owner [at] yahoogroups.com
......
(1) Will the Sacramento district attorney try to prosecute two topfree women protestors
for PC 314 (as charged by California Highway Patrol)?
(2) According to SF Chronicle, the CHP cited Sheryl Glaser and Renee Love for
"indecent exposure", when they bared their breasts at a political demonstration, Nov. 7.
[ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/08/BAGIEFKN801.DTL&hw=topless&sn=001&sc=1000 ]
In this context, "indecent exposure" presumably means a violation of section 314 of the
California Penal Code, which forbids one to "wilfully and lewdly" expose one's body,
"or the private parts thereof".
[ I quote from fallible memory; so please double-check.]
(3) A charge of PC 314 doesn't fit the bare facts of Nov. 7; for several reasons.
(A) Under PC 314, mere nudity isn't lewd, without aggravating factors.
In 1972, the California Supreme Court handed down a decision called IN RE SMITH,
about a male nudist who had been arrested while sunbathing at an isolated beach
which was traditionally, tho (then) furtively, used by nude sunbathers. If Smith had noticed police approaching, he would have hastily covered up, as others did; but he had fallen asleep.
On appeal, his lawyers argued that lewdness was a necessary element of the crime denounced by PC 314. Local authorities argued that public nudity was inherently lewd, prima facie,
without any further need for a prosecutor to prove lewdness.
California's Supreme Court sided with Smith. Since 1972, to prove a charge of PC 314,
the district attorney must show not only that the person was naked (or at least exposing "private parts"),
but also that the exposure was done lewdly.
Indeed, male exhibitionists often make their lewd intent crudely obvious, by their words or actions;
behavng quite differently from most sunbathers, let alone from most political demonstrators.
Could the district attorney of Sacramento County convince a jury that these two bare-breasted
political protesters were motivated by lewd urges? Not likely.
Indeed, I would be surprised if the D.A. even bothers to file a charge of PC 314 in this case.
(B) Secondly, just what does the term "private parts" mean in the 21st century
-- or even in the 19th century?
Clearly this phrase includes genitals.
But does "private parts" also include breasts?
And if it includes breasts,
does it include only those breasts which are attached to women?
(4) Please note that I haven't begun to address any questions of free speech, symbolic speech, political speech, et cetera.
If such broad issues need to be raised in this case, I hope the protestors will base their constitutional arguments on our California state constitution, rather than on federal grounds.
Tortuga Bi LIBERTY,
for Senior Unlimited Nudes (SUN) of San Francisco
8 November 2005, Special Election Day
nakity-owner [at] yahoogroups.com
......
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...
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TWO LETTERS
in San Francisco Chronicle
about going shirtless:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/10/EDG9PFL4HB1.DTL&hw=topless&sn=003&sc=540
Editor --
I find it amazingly ironic that stories about going shirtless
appear on the same page ("2 topless protesters arrested at Capitol'';
"Shirtless film student majors in audacity," Nov. 8),
but with very different consequences.
Two topless women are arrested at the Capitol,
while a man is allowed to make money by renting out his topless body to sponsors.
Wake up, sheeple. A bare chest is a bare chest is a bare chest.
State Sen. Gloria Romero, D-Los Angeles, is right on the money!
TERRI DORR
South San Francisco
---------------------------
Editor --
Every day the paper is full of dumb pranks by anti-war protesters
that are completely counterproductive.
Ladies, exposing your breasts in Sacramento simply reinforces Middle America's view
-- unfortunately, all too true --
that the anti-war movement is a bunch of kooks.
DICK BAGWELL
Berkeley
.....
[ SF Chronicle ]
Page B - 10
...........
in San Francisco Chronicle
about going shirtless:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/11/10/EDG9PFL4HB1.DTL&hw=topless&sn=003&sc=540
Editor --
I find it amazingly ironic that stories about going shirtless
appear on the same page ("2 topless protesters arrested at Capitol'';
"Shirtless film student majors in audacity," Nov. 8),
but with very different consequences.
Two topless women are arrested at the Capitol,
while a man is allowed to make money by renting out his topless body to sponsors.
Wake up, sheeple. A bare chest is a bare chest is a bare chest.
State Sen. Gloria Romero, D-Los Angeles, is right on the money!
TERRI DORR
South San Francisco
---------------------------
Editor --
Every day the paper is full of dumb pranks by anti-war protesters
that are completely counterproductive.
Ladies, exposing your breasts in Sacramento simply reinforces Middle America's view
-- unfortunately, all too true --
that the anti-war movement is a bunch of kooks.
DICK BAGWELL
Berkeley
.....
[ SF Chronicle ]
Page B - 10
...........
For more information:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...
Dear District Attorney of Sacramento County
[dawebmail @ saccounty.net ]
On Nov. 7, CHP cited two topless women protesters at the capitol; reportedly for "indecent exposure"
( California Penal Code section 314)
and a lesser charge.
*** Will your office prosecute these women?
If so, will you press charges of PC 314 ? ***
Our question is based on the obvious difficulty of proving lewdness under IN RE SMITH (Cal. Supreme Court, 1972); and on the question of whether female breasts
(but NOT male breasts) are "private parts".
Awaiting your reply,
SaveFreedom Yahoogroup
savefreedom-owner @ yahoogroups .com
[ gathering news for publication online,
at IndyBay.org and elsewhere ]
19 November 2005
[dawebmail @ saccounty.net ]
On Nov. 7, CHP cited two topless women protesters at the capitol; reportedly for "indecent exposure"
( California Penal Code section 314)
and a lesser charge.
*** Will your office prosecute these women?
If so, will you press charges of PC 314 ? ***
Our question is based on the obvious difficulty of proving lewdness under IN RE SMITH (Cal. Supreme Court, 1972); and on the question of whether female breasts
(but NOT male breasts) are "private parts".
Awaiting your reply,
SaveFreedom Yahoogroup
savefreedom-owner @ yahoogroups .com
[ gathering news for publication online,
at IndyBay.org and elsewhere ]
19 November 2005
Dear Bob Egelko:
What charge(s), if any,
will Sacto. County DA
press against the two topless women demonstrators
who were cited on Nov. 7?
Please ask the DA
[ dawebmail @ saccounty.net ] .
. They can ignore my query,
but they cannot ignore you.
-- TBL
What charge(s), if any,
will Sacto. County DA
press against the two topless women demonstrators
who were cited on Nov. 7?
Please ask the DA
[ dawebmail @ saccounty.net ] .
. They can ignore my query,
but they cannot ignore you.
-- TBL
For uncensored
photos of the Sacramento topfree protest,
where two bare-breasted women
were busted by CHP,
please visit
http://www.tian.greens.org/Sacramento/BreastsNotBombs05/index.html
[ Newspapers and TV may censor photos of this incident;
but Greens.org shows what really happened. ]
photos of the Sacramento topfree protest,
where two bare-breasted women
were busted by CHP,
please visit
http://www.tian.greens.org/Sacramento/BreastsNotBombs05/index.html
[ Newspapers and TV may censor photos of this incident;
but Greens.org shows what really happened. ]
For more information:
http://www.tian.greens.org
The photos by Greens.org
show a fact
which wasn't mentioned
in the newspaper articles
(at least not those which TBL has seen):
The CHP
tolerated
women whose breasts were ALMOST bare
-- so long as the nipple and areola weren't visible.
Ato women
wore pasties
( as in old-tyme burlesque shows);
and they weren't busted.
show a fact
which wasn't mentioned
in the newspaper articles
(at least not those which TBL has seen):
The CHP
tolerated
women whose breasts were ALMOST bare
-- so long as the nipple and areola weren't visible.
Ato women
wore pasties
( as in old-tyme burlesque shows);
and they weren't busted.
For more information:
http://www.tian.greens.org/Sacramento/Brea...
This photo shows Sherry Glaser,
the leader of Breasts Not Bombs,
demonstrating topfree at
the California state capitol,
Sacramento.
She has just taken off her shirt,
and will soon be arrested by CHP.
the leader of Breasts Not Bombs,
demonstrating topfree at
the California state capitol,
Sacramento.
She has just taken off her shirt,
and will soon be arrested by CHP.
Sherry wasn't the only womon arrested for
going bare-breasted at this demo.
Here's a photo of the second....
going bare-breasted at this demo.
Here's a photo of the second....
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