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Another War Bush Can't Win: The Fifth Afghan War

by CounterPunch (reposted)
By BRIAN CLOUGHLEY
Washington's war in Afghanistan is going badly, and the Taliban, or, rather, the insurgents who are Taliban leftovers and all the new insurgents who have now been labeled as Taliban, have increased their attacks on US troops and everyone they suspect of supporting the US occupation.

This is a little surprising, in a way, because you might think there would be a bit of lingering gratitude to George Bush on the part of the Taliban. Certainly, he paid a lot of money to the vicious warlords in northern Afghanistan to crush them in 2001. But just before he did that he paid the Taliban a lot of money, too.

In May 2001 the Bush administration gave the Taliban government of Afghanistan the sum of 43 million dollars. Small change, of course, to a government that considers that amount to be a reasonable annual take for the CEO of any Bush-supporting company, but it is a tidy bit of cash to a bunch of religious fanatics whose idea of adding to world culture was destroying ancient and awe-inspiring rock statues.

Two of the enormous artifacts the Taliban reduced to rubble were over 1500 years old, and they blithely blew them up in March 2001. And in May they were given 43 million green ones by Washington. In effect the Bush administration said 'Well done, Taliban : you are being told by most of the world, and even by fellow Muslims, that your destruction of history is despicable, but never mind, you bunch of demented zealots, here's some US pocket fluff to help you buy some more dynamite'.

And it is astounding that at the time of Bush's charitable handout it was known by Washington (see the 9/11 Commission Report) that al Qaeda's leaders, the people who had already given the world the suicide bombing of the USS Cole in Aden harbor and many other maniacal but well-planned atrocities that had killed scores of Americans, were being given sanctuary by the brutal, ignorant and barely-literate Taliban.

This instance of Bush's bizarre generosity to the Taliban has been sucked into the black hole of non-memory because everyone except Robert Scheer of the LA Times just put it out of their minds. But it is a fact -- stand by for a not very funny laugh -- that the 43 million dollars were handed over because Washington considered the Taliban to be successful in reducing drug production.

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by Joel
From first hand experience I can state that ISI and the Saudis are bankrolling the Taliban, bigtime. There are more things going on than the Taliban. Drug traffiking, tribal warfare, graft, warlords, but they are in it too.
There is a way to win here, but it involves letting the honest and bright move up, keeping the corrupt out of office and keeping the fucking Pakistanis out. None of that will happen in my lifetime. Surprisingly, Europe has a bigger stake here than we do, or soon it will be that way. The US will remove almost all forces from this country in the next 3 months. Canada, Australia, Germany and the NL will increase their forces here. Sorry, boring you with facts and getting away from bashing Bush.
by curious
what would that be?
by Joel
I provide security for people that train the Afghan Police. We are also starting a program where we have people check up on the police in the field to ensure they are not beating,torturing, robbing people or growing poppy. It's harder than it sounds. Most of the lower level cops that go through the academy want to do right, but the upper echelon only wants to line it's pockets. When we get a police chief that is not corrupt, that interdicts opium, and hurts the Taliban, Kabul fires him.
by do you follow orders, or enforce the law?
I mean, when ya hafta choose.

Abu Ghraib has us all wondering what goes on in you guys' heads.
by Joel
This is actually my third time trying to respond. short of actually being here, it's hard to describe. The first priority to everything I do is to protect those around me from death or injury as best as possible. The next priority is to assist them in their mission of police training and guiding the police into something more than another warlord's militia.
To answer your question, I am capable of doing many things, but only do what I feel I really need to do. What that is varies from day to day. Know that from may of this year I have shot 0 people. I hope to keep that up till May 2007.
by "I am capable of doing many things"
in other words, you do what you're told. as you were trained to do. it's not your fault. and it's not alright, either.

you cant imagine how all that abu ghraib stuff is playing out back here. can you?

american culture is cynical enough that no one's surprised. (why is that?) but we just dont trust the honor thing anymore, unless we are military partisans (if you will-- you know, served, military families &c). a rigid polarity is murderous to a centrist democracy. dont you think?

i was actually arguing with a friend last night. i said the american people were horrified by the torture scandals. he said they dont care.

which is worse??? how can a democracy survive what this will make of our children, who watch this on teevee?

you're counting the days since you shot someone-- it's like days since an accident at a factory. what is that doing to you?
by Joel
In a place that murders women for having lovers and men sodomize boys for fun, death is right around the corner, and no one speaks the truth. I'm doing OK. In plain speak, if you have a weapon and threaten the health of one of my charges, you die. Unarmed and I pass you by if possible. I do wake up everyday expecting that I may have to kill someone or be killed or maimed myself. Not macho posturing. Just the way it is. The more trips I make out to rinky dink police stations in the boonies to make sure the cops are getting paid, not corrupt, etc, well I'm on borrowed time. But it's better that an old fart like me do this than my children. I really do hope to do my job right and at the same time cause no death. Don't get me wrong. I'm always ready, always with my finger close to the trigger, but have no lust for destruction. Anything less than total commitment here or in Iraq and you are on fantasy island. One trick the bad folks used was stolen police uniforms. We just had a bus load in Helmand robbed of ID and uniforms. Now they are using women in police uniforms as they feel we won't shoot them. Not bright. There are about 4 female police officers in Kandahar. Afghans hate women and a woman working is anathema to them. Sorry to ramble on. Just a lot more going on than reported in any news outlet, including this one.
by observer
Like anyone here cares about you or your shitty job, joel.

Joel's been frequenting indybay periodically for about a year hoping that he'll be able to convince folks that mercenaries like him are really in it for the love of justice. He seems to need affirmation--but what a strange place to seek it.

Poor deluded fool.
by Joel
I do what you can't or are unwilling to do, and not for the reasons you attribute. I am willing to voluntarily give up a small block of my lifetime for that. Then it's someone elses turn.
It must piss you off to no end that guys like me actually do things that affect your life. There is really nothing special I can see about us, but we actually see the news happening before it's spoon fed to you by the corporate media. Sometimes we are the news. That's never a good thing.
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