Weekly Summary of israeli War Crimes

Just say no to racist zionist filth.

Or better yet.."self defense".....(if you believe that, I have some swampland I'd like to sell you in Florida)

It's hard to understand an allegience to soil based on religious fanaticism.

Religion, at least to me, is based on love and a desire to be closer to G-d.

By the way, no one has to pay me to disagree with the type of bigotry that I read here.

tia is our local humane torture suffragette- believes fervently in a universal human right of palestinian 5 year old girls to be waterboarded with dignity as long as its bottom up and not top down.

i applaud our tia-torturia-tist and her leftist leaning. i also support her in israel's efforts to revise the u.n. convention on torture.

perhaps she would care to comment on the 1976 international convention on the suppression and punishment of the crime of apartheid too?

we await with bated breath...........

Ah Nazi troll, your'e getting delusional again. Appropriate medication can be a beautiful thing. Aren't you going to rave on about the female furher or Fauisson anymore?

Guess all of it is ok when Israel does it...

If Israel defends itself Nazi troll calls it a "war crime" while scrambling to justify Palestinian atrocities.

"Suicide bomber kills 3," the headline reports.

It's become an all-too-familiar story in urban settings in Israel, as terrorists wage a war of attrition against beleaguered civilians surrounded by a sea of hostility.

But the rising death toll from such atrocities is only half the story, says a radiologist from Evanston Northwestern Healthcare in Illinois. The other, untold part is the horrors the survivors of such gruesome attacks must endure – sometimes for the rest of their lives.

X-rays taken from victims of suicide bombings reveal pieces of metallic fragments embedded in their skin, muscles, organs and bones, says Dr. Michael Messing, who visited the victims of suicide bombings while at the Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem. Suicide bombers pack their bombs with nails and other objects so even survivors of suicide bombings will suffer from the bomb's effects.

"They're trying to maximize the number of people they kill and injure," said Messing of the terrorists.

These bombs, which Messing says are sometimes funded by Palestinian authorities including Yasser Arafat, are packed with spikes, nails, screws, nuts, bullets, mortar, ball bearings and even rat poison.

"What were originally created for constructive purposes have been transformed by Arab terrorists into cruel, deadly, destructive projectiles," said Messing. "The nails fly like bullets, head first, penetrating skin, flesh and bone. The unprecedented wave of suicide bombings has presented a whole new set of medical challenges."

- is from worldnetdaily, a fascist propaganda rag that's almost more nuts about Israel than she is

- Is featured on this page of dailyalert.org, yet another zionist PR conduit

http://www.dailyalert.org/archive/2002-06/2002-06-03.html

thanks tia, I didn't know about this one before

- is from THREE YEARS AND FOUR MONTHS AGO (5/30/02)!!!! And here tia is dropping it on us like it's current news

Your ridiculous "waterboard " comment deserved something canned-
No- it deserved to be ignored.

"<<<<<<The nails fly like bullets, head first, penetrating skin, flesh and bone. The unprecedented wave of suicide bombings has presented a whole new set of medical challenges.">>>>>


reminds me of the phosporous gas bombs the israelis used on palestinian villages in the galilee some time ago. also the americans used the same gas bombs plus napalm plus fleshettes on falluja as reported by dahr jamal of ips who was an eye-witness.

...the proximity-fused 185mm howitzer rounds (over 7 inches diameter) the IDF used to kill 100+ unarmed civilians in the Qana UN compound, Lebanon, 1994. Nails embedded in flesh would have seemed quaint compared to that shit

why is it that israel is not fighting in Iraq alongside their sugardaddy, America?

Bush made it clear that you're with us or against us, right?

so why no israeli troops in Iraq? are they afraid? are israelis ungrateful for the hundreds of billions we have given them over throughout their history? are they against us?

or do israeli troops really just specialize in internal democracy suppression, that is violently keeping millions of people down by denying them the vote in their own country?

Shin bet is helping out in Abu Ghraib, teaching our spooks how to break down Arabs with amphetamine-pumped attack dogs, smearing them with shit and menstrual blood, electroshock etc.

http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr040707_1_n.shtml

I even heard they're using a trick they learned from the Nazis: have a detainee stand on a stool then tie his hands together behind his back with a rope that's also tied to the ceiling. Then kick the stool out from under him. Rips his arms out of their sockets every time. Real nice

Nazi troll, only in your twisted fantasies are there Israelis in Iraq. Are you seeing Jews in your tea cup again?

phosphorous bombs - the blast of these beauties sends strands of burning and smoking chemicals floating through the air that land on the flesh of humans and continue burning through the skin and into the bodily organs - pouring water on it has no effect.

the victim watches helplessly the horror unfolding before him. very humane, very effective - sends strong and effective messages to the heathens that invented algebra, optics, the first written legal code in human history, astronomy, and other pointless savagery. certainly the work of euclid of egypt was another of many examples of paleolithic middle eastern tribal barbarity, not to mention omar kayyam, the pathetic persian poet and mathematician.

thank god for israel and its advances in stem cell research, palestinian concentration camps, and their contributions to more effective means of torture in iraq.

thank god the british, french and americans got there in time to put a stop to those "street arabs" and such.

not to mention the old western standard - cluster bombs - pretty yellow balls - a natural attraction to children - they blow off hands, elbows, noses, ears, etc. tiny toys for tiny fingers.

the fleshette bomb is an especially effective rhetorical device leaving little room for debate. dense clusters of tiny razor-blades blast through the bodies of the victims, many cutting through vital organs, most remaining embedded in the body of the victim. inoperable, of course.

god bless america. excuse my tears, i feel a bout of meaningless jingoism coming on..........i'm off to more obedience training at my local sbc coliseum. i just luuuuv gladiators.

uh, you seem to be raving again.

and anti-semitics are creeping around everywhere undercover

many pretend to be leftists. watch out!

if only they could get away with their own final solution and wipe out the palestinians and their anti-semitic sympathizers, life would be so much easier, and israel could be the jewish-facist land of every good zionists' dreams

no, just you Nazi troll

disagree with me and I'll call you a nazi because I can't tell a real jew-killing nazi from those who detest zionist racism

they are all the same to me

disagree with me and I'll call you a nazi because I can't tell a real jew-killing nazi from those who detest zionist racism

thoughts and actions are identical to the zion thought police

they are all the same to me

Defense if done by a state, no matter what they do, especially if it's israel....

Only the deluded say that. Every nation is entitled to self defense

maybe you think we don't notice your rhetorical devices, but you actually did NOT critically challenge that statement. you only pretended that you did

you just called it/writer stupid, more or less

go ahead and show how there aren't truths in that statement -- walling off the disempowered palestinians into apartheid prisons that become poorer and poorer over the decades of oppression (it's the palestinians fault, of course, no israeli responsibility whatsoever); israeli killing of palestinians who get too uppity about the situation; constant dehumanizing of palestinians and their supporters on this site coming from the zionists; all the talk of jewish people having the "right" to a country (if it's a "jewish" country, it can't really be multi-ethnic and truely democratic now can it?); and on and on

or just distract again

What about these guys?
http://www.nkusa.org/

Like Kach, another fringe group using religious interpretation to justify their politics.

Aside from generic claims of defense?

yeah, walling off millions of people to suffer in poverty, allowing it to worsen over 50 years of israeli domination, continuing to deny them equal rights and say it's all their fault when you hold all of the cards and get the lionshare of US charity, yeah, that's a genocidal strategy. not rapid, train them to the gas chambers this week genocide, but slow steady genocide

it's a strategy designed so that the palestinians cannot succeed, cannot thrive, cannot live normal lives, all the while israelis skip off to their cafes and beach vacations and swim in their suburban swiming pools, paid well in their subsidized economy built largely around a military most commonly used used to keep down locals

isrealis do not want palestinians to survive as a people. they do not want them to thrive as a people. virtually everything they do works towards that end. you can scream that that is not the israelis' intentions 'til the cows come home, but the "facts on the ground" suggest otherwise... constant excuses about how the palestinians aren't "ready" to rule themselves or don't deserve it, all the while Israel continues to run the show and palestinians suffer. israel blames the oppressed for their oppression. it's racist and sick

how long will it be until Israel gets over their WWII wounds enough to grow a heart? another 50+ years? 100?

yeah, boycotting millions of people hopinfg to create poverty, allowing it to worsen over 50 years of Arab and Moslem (Oil Money) domination of the UN, continuing to deny Israel equal rights and say it's all Israel's fault for just existing and get the lionshare of US oil revenue, yeah, that is a genocidal strategy.

It's a strategy designed to demonize Israel so as to make it a pariah among nations simply for being a Jewish nation, hoping to make so that the Jews cannot succeed, cannot thrive, cannot live normal lives, all the while Palestinians try to justify endles violence agaisnt civilians, while being paid in their subsidized economy by UNRWHA , the EU, the US, the Arab Oil states etc.

The Arabs do not want Jews to survive as a people. they do not want them to thrive as a people. virtually everything they do works towards that end. you can scream that that is not the Arab's intentions 'til the cows come home, but the "facts on the ground" suggest otherwise... constant excuses about how "the Jews" run the world by proxy don't deserve it, all the while the Palestinians send suicide bomber and missle s to make Jews suffer. Then, ignorant leftists blames the oppressed for their oppression. it's racist and sick

how long will it be until the Arabs get over their wounded pride/honor enough to grow a heart? another 50+ years? 100?

for a 4 year old

whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you

objecting to the apartheid-ization of millions of people is hystrionic only to those who can overlook the suffering of people unlike themselves

it's been over 50 years

blaming the oppressed for their oppression is wearing really thin

But blaming their leadership on the other hand....

As if this is the only thing about Palestinians, Arabs, Moslems, and Israel's critics in general that Yid ever demonizes!

<<<Torture, Palestinain style
by Tia>>>


I notice at tia's propaganda website the sponsor is none other than the "Council of Presidents." this is it man, the cash cow of aipac. aipac is the invisible 1000 gorilla that leads all our vichy congresspeople around by the nose (yes israel, right away israel.....anything you say israel...may i bend over now israel?)

it's got em all - the bronfmans and all the rest.

when people voiced their shock and anger that the israeli pacs were funding franklin treason at aipac, and that aipac was funding more congressional races than the american arms industry, the pro-israelis decided to switch to a new tactic - have the big guns write multi-million checks directly - all very private, very shadowy, very under-the-table.

I don't know who you are, but WOW do I love your stuff. You kickin zionist ultra-bigot ass to the moon! Please don't stop

<<<<<<<It's hard to understand
by You're right Thursday, Sep. 22, 2005 at 10:35 AM

It's hard to understand an allegience to soil based on religious fanaticism.>>>>>>>

yeah, it's called irredentist eschatology. i mean how are you to respond to an unrecorded claim to an obscure real estate contract with a partisan god?

but i'm sure our local self appointed "copy-paste scholars" and such will find a way.

can you imagine? it's a real mind twister if ever i heard one. it's gotta leave ya speechless - whaaah?

and this "holy" apartheid thing they got goin on - it's kind of like the indian caste system with the palestinains as the davits.

quite a witch's brew indeed.

click below - 310 iraqi scientists assassinated by mossad in iraq.



http://mathaba.net/x.htm?http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=80029

So I'm sure it's not. This is undoubtedly the work of those jabbering fuzz-faced Arab terrorist goat-fuckers!! That's what Fox says too, so that clinches it. As soon as das Vaterland auf Zionismus gets done bio-engineering the superplague that only hits these two-legged slime-molds, boy will we clean house! Bye-bye one billion assholes!!

This article drops not only that phrase, but lots of other goodies too

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040719/judt/6

"...despite Israel's own sophisticated efforts to publicize its case, the Jewish state today is widely regarded as THE leading threat to world peace."

Precisely right

here it is - the devil's website


http://www.nogw.com/mossad.html

Israeli activist Susan Nathan who recently visited Ireland was interviewed by the Irish Times July 28. On August 2, the foreign editor of the paper gave permission to post the following article:

The most accurate description of Susan Nathan comes from herself: "What I do is that I live what comes out of my mouth." She is the only Jew among 25,000 Arabs in the northern Israeli town of Tamra and has taken up the cause of the Palestinians who remained inside the borders of Israel after the state was set up in 1948.

Her harshest critics could not say she has chosen a comfortable path. Friends and even some relatives have turned against her, she says, but she is standing by her controversial claim that the Palestinians in Israel are victims of apartheid-style discrimination and mistreatment.

Now she’s written a book to tell her story and make her case, The Other Side of Israel: My Journey Across the Jewish-Arab Divide (HarperCollins). The writing style is direct and simple: she wanted "Joe Bloggs on the street" to be able to read it and say, "I didn’t understand that it was like that". In person, too, Nathan is direct and to the point. As far as she is concerned, the issue itself is a simple one. Her Jewish co-religionists took the land from the Palestinians, who have been severely oppressed and treated as second-class citizens ever since.

She only came to this conclusion in her 50s, having been an ardent Zionist all her life. It took a long time for the penny to drop but there is now no self-doubt or hesitation.

Nathan says that initially she was "brainwashed and in love with the Zionist narrative". Very few non-Jewish people understood the power of Zionist propaganda.

"You are brought up to believe that you are outside of society, that you are forever persecuted, that Israel is your safe haven . . . It is like being part of a cult." The Zionist claim that Israel exists for the salvation of the Jews in case of another Holocaust was "a very cynical misuse of people’s fears and the Holocaust".

She is the daughter of a Harley Street physician. Her father, Samuel Levy, studied in South Africa and then Trinity College Dublin in the late 1920s and early 1930s. "He used to spend Friday night and all Saturday with the family of Chaim Herzog [future president of Israel, whose father was Ireland’s chief rabbi]."

The family came from the Baltic region. Fleeing anti-Semitic pogroms, they made their way to Odessa on the Black Sea. Family lore has it that they wanted to go to Hamburg but the ship was full so they had to sail for South Africa instead. "And that’s how we escaped the Holocaust."

Born in 1949, she grew up in South Africa and England. She got married, reared a family and got divorced when she was 50. Initially she was an avid supporter of the Israeli state. Having worked as a teacher and HIV/Aids therapist, Nathan decided at last to realise her lifelong Zionist dream of emigrating to Israel. "I applied under the Right of Return," she says. Under Israeli law, anyone with a Jewish grandparent can emigrate to Israel and become a citizen.

"It was a wonderful homecoming. I believed the Zionist ideology, I really believed this was ’a land without a people for a people without a land’. Palestinians were not on the map for me in any shape or form." She was offered "a very good job" teaching business English in Tel Aviv. Around the time of her arrival, the latest intifada rebellion erupted at the end of 2000. She saw "the wonderful achievements of our forces" being extolled on Israeli television.

"I really fell for that line," she says. But then she became very ill and had to be hospitalized and this brought her into close regular contact with Palestinians. She began to ask herself, "Where am I in this society, what is my role?" She became involved with a Palestinian-Jewish NGO dealing with deprived communities, and worked on a project in Tamra. "I started to understand the enormous similarities between Arab-Israeli society and black society during the apartheid years in South Africa."

But it’s not as if Israel adopts petty measures such as having separate Arab and Jewish toilets the way South Africa had separate toilets for blacks and whites. "In Israel it’s far more sophisticated than that, because it’s all heavily veiled. It’s very important for Israel to be seen to be democratic, Western, accepted by the US and Europe." But as far as she is concerned: "Israeli society in its current form really equals a half democracy, a democracy for Jews only."

Nathan’s version of Israeli history would not find favour in Zionist circles: "The major form of discrimination comes in the confiscation and appropriation of Arab land. All of the state of Israel is built on Palestinian land. Around 480 to 500 villages were totally destroyed during the battle of Israeli independence in 1948. And this discrimination and dispossession goes on and on and on.

"Israel is the only country in the world where you can be an eternal refugee, where you can be present but absent by law from your property, being deprived of the right of return to your property and your land, even though you own the deeds for that property and that land, and to be without compensation. It is appalling.

"And once I had seen the comparison with South Africa, I decided that I could no longer keep my mouth closed." Nathan decided to go and live among the Arabs in Israel and "help to activate change".

She vigorously rejects any allegation that she is an anti-Semitic or "self-hating" Jew. "One is not called anti-British if one criticizes the policies of the British government." This is "just a rather nasty political ploy".

But she knows there is a price to be paid for the stand she has taken. "Everything in life comes with a price." Taking a phrase from the late Edward Said, she says: "What I do with my life is the politics of embarrassment." Predicting there will be another intifada uprising soon, she adds: "Israel should have been the safest place in the world for Jews to be and actually . . . now, ironically, it has turned out to be the most dangerous." Nathan’s "personal dream" is that Israel will ultimately be a bi-national state."

Her sympathy for the Palestinians is largely unqualified and she sharply rebukes a member of the audience at a Dublin meeting who raises a question about the rights of gays and lesbians in the Palestinian Territories. The question is "incredibly offensive", she says, warning of the "moral superiority of the West".

"As far as I know, you’re not a Muslim, you don’t live in the Muslim world. The Arab world is perfectly capable of dealing with those issues in its own time and in its own way."

Speaking to her afterwards, I said many people would regard gay and lesbian rights as universal human rights, so why couldn’t outsiders raise them? "Because I don’t think people from other cultures should interfere."

As for suicide bombing, she says: "I don’t condone it. I don’t say it’s right. But I think we have to say, ’How does this come about? Why do we have this phenomenon?’" When I put it to her that the Irish were oppressed but didn’t use suicide bombers, she responds: "Yes, but did you have the entire army unleashed on you? Did you have jet-fighters bombing your homes? Did you have your homes demolished while you were in them? Did you have 40 years of brutal occupation and conniving to come to some sort of artificial peace process? Did you have that?"

yes, i've been thinking about this for some time. it's like we are the shepherds and they are our flock, our little lambs that have gone astray. we must guide them back into the fold.

this is our duty, our mission, we must proceed with patience and understanding, yet firmness - we can't spare the rod and spoil the child.

HE ALSO SAID:

"After thirty-seven years of military occupation, Israel has gained nothing in security; it has lost everthing in domestic civility and international respectability; its has forfeited the moral high ground forever."



"stopping the palestinian resistance is like using a spoon to drink the sea..........shin bet officer - 2001.

this tells it all - concede, pull out all settlers in the west bank, end the hindu caste system of social relations.