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Thousands march in Hamas rally

by ALJ
The Palestinian resistance group Hamas has held a massive military rally in Gaza City, in clear defiance of President Mahmoud Abbas's calls to disarm.
Hamas said a 10,000-strong army, posing on jeeps and camouflage-decorated trucks, spread out across Gaza city on Sunday.

The men carried assault rifles, Qassam rockets and anti-tank missiles as hundreds of thousands of supporters cheered them on.

The demonstration comes one week after Israel completed the evacuation of its forces from the Gaza Strip, ending 38 years of military rule in the impoverished territory, and many Gazans see it as the largest show of force yet by the group.

Defiance

The demonstration was considered a clear message of defiance to Abbas's calls to disarm Gaza, including his own party's al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, under the banner of One Authority, One Weapon.

"We will not allow the state of lawlessness, the disorder of weapons, taking law into one's hands, kidnapping and attacks on government institutions and state land to continue," Abbas said earlier. "No one is above the law."

The demonstration also the first time commanders of Hamas's armed wing - the Izze-Din-al-Qassam Brigades, long hunted by Israeli drones and helicopter gunships - made a public appearance.

Resistance

"These are only a small portion of the brigades - spread out on the very same street that our leaders were once assassinated on. If they all came out today, Gaza itself could not fit them," said the one of the younger leaders of the armed wing.

"We are here today to say we shall never lay down our arms. Our arms are our existence," he said.

"It is not a matter of how much it costs us; we will never let up. We are here to tell the entire world, Israel must leave not just Gaza-but Palestine in its entirety.

"Some people say these rockets are child's play. If this is the case, why did the enemy escape from them? We have defeated the army that cannot be defeated. We have crushed the army that cannot be crushed."

Credit for withdrawal

Palestinian factions have been jockeying for power and credit for the Israeli withdrawal in the run-up to Palestinian parliamentary elections in January.

The ability of the Abbas government to come to a swift resolution to the Rafah border crisis, and to re-open the Rafah crossing with Palestinian control, is thought to be a test for his government.

Hamas won the majority of the seats in Gaza's municipal elections this year, and the group's effectiveness at meeting the immediate needs of residents and getting the job done is seen as a challenge to the popularity of the largely mismanaged Palestinian Authority.

Election

Earlier, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said that Israel would "make every effort" not to help the Palestinian Authority hold elections in the West Bank if Hamas took part in them.

Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar on Sunday warned Sharon against impeding the Palestinian elections, Aljazeera reported.

"Based on Sharon's latest statements about impeding the Palestinian elections and preventing Hamas from participating, we hereby announce that if Sharon impeded the elections process, we have the right to disturb the lives of the Jewish settlers in occupied Palestine by any means viable to us.

"Secondly, Hamas movement opposes any step taken (by Israel) under the pretext of establishing security zones aimed at serving the purposes of the Zionist enemy in any form,'' al-Zahar said.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/531F89CA-7A67-4393-8A9F-8AFA6A30A336.htm
by Haaretz (reposted)
Thousands of armed Hamas militants marched through the center of Gaza City on Sunday, defying Palestinian Authority efforts to remove unauthorized weapons from the streets.

About 10,000 members of the Islamic faction carrying assault rifles, rockets and anti-tank missiles were cheered by tens of thousands as they paraded in the group's largest armed show of force in the territory in years.

The demonstration came a week after Israel completed a military withdrawal from the coastal Gaza Strip in a move praised by Washington as a possible springboard to peacemaking.

Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri called the demonstration a message to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon "that thousands of Qassam men will remain and not disband", using the name of Hamas's military wing.

Masri said Hamas would continue to aim its weapons at Israel "until the liberation of all of Palestine", alluding to both Israel and the occupied West Bank where Israel has vowed to keep large Jewish settlement blocs.

Hamas poses a political challenge to Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas who vowed in a speech last Tuesday he would not tolerate the "chaos of weapons". The Palestinian Authority has also sought to ban public displays of arms.

Israel has said it would not resume peace talks on Palestinian statehood under a U.S.-backed "road map" unless the Palestinians disarm militant groups such as Hamas, bent on Israel's destruction.

Abbas persuaded militants to observe a ceasefire he agreed with Israel in February to smooth Israel's removal of all 21 settlements in Gaza last month. But the Palestinian leader has shied from forcibly disarming them.

Hamas and other militants see the Israeli pullout as a victory to their fight against Israel during a nearly five year uprising.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/626228.html
by Becky Johnson (becky_johnson222 [at] hotmail.com)
Sharon bowed to pressure from his own 20% Israeli peace activists and by W. to withdraw from Gaza. Many on these pages have heard countless cries for Israel to "withdraw from Palestinian lands" and many have suggested that the "occupation" is the cause of the conflict.

Of course there was continuous conflict prior to 1967 and ANY Jewish occupation, but facts don't matter to some.

Now this expensive and painful effort on the part of Sharon and Israel in order to achieve peace, security, and leave in Gaza--in the form of 3,000 agricultural buildings and greenhouses which, under Jewish ownership produced $75 million a year in exported vegetables as infrastructure for an economic engine for a viable state is called a "tactic" and a "smokescreen." 8,500 real human beings lost their homes, schools, businesses, and jobs in order to cave into Palestinian demands.

The land ceded in Gaza by the Jews to the PA, has become the very first officially owned Palestinian lands in history.

All other lands were pretty much held by squatters rights.

Now Hamas calls for the liberation of "all of Palestine."

Wake up and smell the coffee people. Hamas (which you call resistance fighters) has declared that they will continue to attack until Israel is destroyed. Thats both sides of the Green line folks.

Israel's gesture for peace is being flouted as a military defeat and the reason why terrorism works. The PA has shown its ineffective and can't or won't reign in the terrorist groups.

Also, why has no one posted about the Palestinians burning down all the synagogues? Isn't it newsworthy enough?

by with ZERO credibility
She also blames Iman al-Hams for her own death at the hands of an IDF maniac who emptied a machine gun into her as she already lay dying on the ground near his Gaza gun-tower.

Yeah, Sharon threw Israel's critics a PR bone by clearing settlers from Gaza, but meanwhile settler abuses have redoubled in the West Bank. the WB is the main prize anyway. This is called a feint. Besides, Israel is obviously going to fuck the Gazan's nice and deep so they get to resume the occupation anyway. Mark my words, folks.

"The land ceded in Gaza by the Jews to the PA, has become the very first officially owned Palestinian lands in history. All other lands were pretty much held by squatters rights."

That's ol Beck-o, totally rabid and ruthlessly twisted! Yeah, didn't you know Arabs have been squatting on Jewish land for the past 2,000 years?

"Hamas ... has [vowed] to attack Israel until it's destroyed. Thats both sides of the Green line folks."

Wow, that's so evil. Unlike how Israel wants to destroy Palestine on both sides of the Green Line, and is 3/4 of the way done doing it. That's totally different. I mean they have a right to, they're "G-d's chosen."

"Israel's gesture for peace is being flouted as a military defeat and the reason why terrorism works."

Who did that, Beck-O? Your co-bigots?

"why has no one posted about the Palestinians burning down all the synagogues?"

But some of your co-bigots did post that here. You don't think they'd fall down on their cushy 9 to 5 jobs, do you?
by searth
hamas.1.18sept05.jpg
Palestinian militants from the military wing of Hamas march in Gaza city September 18, 2005. Thousands of armed Hamas militants marched through Gaza City on Sunday, defying efforts to remove unauthorised weapons from the streets just days after the Palestinian president vowed not to tolerate armed chaos. The demonstration came a week after Israel completed a military withdrawal from the coastal Gaza Strip in a move praised by Washington as a possible springboard to peacemaking. (Ahmed Jadallah/Reuters)
There will never peace until there is justice. There will never be justice while a racist army occupies Palestine.
by gehrig
Gee, the Hamas charter literally cites "Protocols of the Elders of Zion." But I guess _that's_ not bigotry, because it's only egregiously antisemitic. It's not particularly a surprise that Indybay supporters of Hamas overlook antisemitism in the name of anti-Zionism; after all, Hamas kills Israeli civilians, so it must be an agent of good.

@%<
by pot/kettle/black
The Zionists whine about a peace of paper while in real life, on the ground, their racist, aggressor army occupies Palestine, and steals and murders at will and imprisone millions of people in giant concentration camps for no other reason than they were not born Jews, and under Israeli law it's 100% legal.
by Except of course, thats a lie
The other thing with rabid anti-zionists, they lie, they exagerate, they false post. Its one easy way of telling whose the bad guys.
by daddy dearest


it seems that becky johnson, or whatever her actual name is, is a kind of born again zionist, perhaps a socalled christian zionist.

i also recall that many months ago our presence was blessed by afro man and now we have the inimitable carlos. i recall one pro-israel type in these threads that wrote as if he were a palestinian related to those who were ethnically cleansed in 47 and 48. strangely, he (or she?) spread the zionist myth that the palestinains were encouraged to flee the country by arab leaders. also believed the zionist axiom that jordan is palestine.
by No comment on the original article means...
When our resident Nazi troll starts namecalling, it means that there is comment on the original article and he wants to deflect attention from his ignorance and prejudice.
by No comment on the original article means...
When our resident Nazi troll starts namecalling, it means that there is comment on the original article and he wants to deflect attention from his ignorance and prejudice.
by no surprise
Notice that SchtarkerYid doesn't even try to rebut the the truth that on the ground, the Zionists' racist, aggressor army occupies Palestine, and steals and murders at will and imprisons millions of people in giant concentration camps for no other reason than they were not born Jews, and under Israeli law it's 100% legal.
by Dhimmi and Moslem Wakf
Does that mean that you still won't address the Dh imji and Moslem Wakf question? Is that because you ignore any facts that don't fit your pre set ideology andso make up facts to fit?
by he did it again
Still avoiding the the truth that on the ground, the Zionists' racist, aggressor army occupies Palestine, and steals and murders at will and imprisons millions of people in giant concentration camps for no other reason than they were not born Jews, and under Israeli law it's 100% legal.


Yawn.
by No answers, only lies
Our Nazai troll finds it convenient to fore get that after 1993, and the Oslo accords, that control of the Palestinian areas was handed to the Palestinian Authority. So, "concentration camp" is simply a lie and hyperbole. "Occupation" more of the same.

So, having now evaded my questions, over and over, what about Dmimmi status and the Moslem Wakf of Palestine (Moslems only with Dhimmi [Jim Crow] for anyone else)?
by another Zionist lie
There's a fence around it. The people there can't leave. The Palistinian Authority serves the same function as Judenrat did in the Warsaw Ghetto. It poiices the giant prison camp that Israel has created on behalf of Israel. Like the Judenrat, they are traitors who should die for their treachery.
by twisted Nazi troll lies

So the fence to prevent Palestinians from suicide bombing Israeli women and children is no different than the wall arround the Warsaw ghetto designed to keep Jews in on their way to a real concentration camp? Thats a evil equation.

If there were no fence arround Gaza, there would be endless suicide bombers going into Israel. If ther had been no wall aound the Warsaw ghetto, people would have gone about their lives.

And your so called peace camp goes along with phrases like "they are traitors who should die for their treachery."? Its only peace for some, right?

And still no response regarding the Dhimmis and the Moslem Wakf. Is it because you're boundless hypocracy has been exposed?
by down with Zionism
The people inside are prisoners of a racist regime.
by Fence terror out
And still no response regarding the Dhimmis and the Moslem Wakf. Is it because you're boundless hypocracy has been exposed?
by and EU money

EU raises 2005 aid to PA at a total of 500 million euro
By Associated Press

The European Union announced details of new aid for the Palestinians, raising the 2005 total to 280 million euro on Monday, a day before talks between the four parties that drive the Mideast peace process.

If assistance from the 25 EU governments is added, Europe's total annual aid to the Palestinians amounts to some 500 million euro.

"Only Israel and Palestine can make peace, but Europe is playing its part in the international Quartet to create the environment in which peace can take root," EU Foreign Affairs Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner said in a statement.

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Foreign ministers of the so-called Quartet - the United States, Russia, the EU and the United Nations - meet in New York on Tuesday to discuss the way forward in the Middle East after Israel's evacuation of the Gaza Strip.

One crucial issue is the future of the Gaza-Egypt border. Israel closed that border's Rafah crossing when it withdrew its forces from Gaza last week. The Palestinians want Rafah to reopen quickly, possibly with European monitors.

Before the Quartet meeting, the EU prepared an aid package worth 60 million euro for the Palestinians, including help to upgrade the Gaza airport, develop the seaport and build housing now that Jewish settlers have been removed from the area.

Of that, 40 million euro goes to transport, water supply and sanitation projects in the Gaza Strip, 12 million euro to boost political and government institutions and 8 million euro for social services in East Jerusalem, EU officials said.

In the EU's view, the evacuation of Israeli settlers and troops from the Gaza Strip, as well as the dismantling of its 21 settlements last month, has put into greater focus the need to make the area economically and political more viable.

This touches on economic opportunities, the ability of Palestinians to move freely between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank as well as secure borders and entry points.

"Our substantial assistance package will make an important contribution to achieving" these objectives, Ferrer-Waldner said. "Having led the way in support for reform efforts in the Palestinian Authority, we are now helping to lay the foundations for a viable Palestinian economy."

She said the EU was ready to start construction of a 25 million euro cargo terminal at the Gaza airport, and several EU states have offered help to develop the seaport.

In addition to the 60 million euro, the EU has also set aside
this year 70 million euro if the Palestinian Authority implements political and economic reforms; 10 million euro for projects bringing Palestinian and Israeli non-governmental organizations together; 29 million euro in food aid; 28 million euro in humanitarian aid and 64 million euro for the UN Works and Refugee Agency.
Don't let the racists set the agenda.

israel is a racist, aggressor state whose decades long campaign of murdxer, terror, theft and lies has been financed by the American taxpayers. That means there is blood on our hands, too.

That's the issue.

Cut Israel's purse strings now.
by gehrig
Poor nessie, reduced once again to shouting bumper-sticker slogans in thread after thread.

@%<
by yawn
Still no rebuttal.
by American
Anyone know the current leader of Hamas in Gaza/West Bank? I hear Hamas has trouble keeping that position filled.
by more proof
More proof of Israel's murderous policies.
by Murderers get hit
Oh, Hamas Murderers get hit! Poor murderous babies. As if they were kids in a disco?
by gehrig
Well, remember, not all Hamasniks get hit. Some of them accidentally blow themselves up while building the beltbombs that nessie et al. so celebrate when a "martyr" rips up a busload of schoolkids.

@%<
by so surprise
If “they do it, too” were a valid excuse, Hitler would be off the hook for killing those six million Jews, because Stalin killed six million Ukrainians.
by Nazi troll weeps for Hamas killers
Nazi troll weeps for Hamas killers, big surprise.
by American
Yes, when their own explosives blow up prematurely they call that a "work accident". I wonder if they have worker's comp coverage? I notice no one wants the top job now.

You know, if Hamas said their goal was a Palestinian state on the West Bank ad Gaza and they weren't constantly calling for the destruction of Israel, and if they didn't murder civilians with suicide bombers, maybe they could accomplish something.

As long as they are murdering civilians the US will never ask Israel to negotiate with them, and there will never be any kind of Palestinian state.

Attacks might have persuaded Israel to leave South Lebanon, but they will not persuade them to leave Israel, now will they?
by more bunk logic
That's not what I said. But of the two, Hamas killers are better than Zionist killers because they are acting in self defense against a colonialist invader.

Better not to kill at all, but sometimes it is necessary. When it is necessary, it is better to kill colonialist invaders than their victims.
by Hamas was attacked by a pizzeria?
So NaZI TROLL, Hamas was attacked by a pizzeria? And so defended itself against having a Palestinian State by killing un armed teenagers? That doesn't even make sense in your hate filled bizarro world.
by since you asked . . .
by a racist army of colonialist aggressors.
by Yes, in the 7th century
in the 7th century with theocracy as their goal, and expanded conquests as their desire. Having shaken off , most recently the Turkish Caliphate, and the British Mandate, Jews are now free to express their natural right of national self determination,like any other peoples.
by typical
>Jews are now free to express their natural right of national self determination,

Self determination for ethnic groups is racism by definition.


>like any other peoples.

Like *some* other peoples.
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