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Aug. 17 Deporten a la Migra Rally/March (bilingue)
A coalition of various community groups from Northern California and our
allies
will unite Wednesday August 17th to have an action where we will send a
message
to the legislators in Sacramento that immigrants have a right to an unmarked
drivers license and to respond to the Governors open invitation to the
vigilante
group, the Minutemen!!
allies
will unite Wednesday August 17th to have an action where we will send a
message
to the legislators in Sacramento that immigrants have a right to an unmarked
drivers license and to respond to the Governors open invitation to the
vigilante
group, the Minutemen!!
*este mensage es bilingue*
We demand Licenses now! Stop the Minutemen!
Deporten a la Migra!:
Immigrants Fighting for their rights
A coalition of various community groups from Northern California and our
allies
will unite Wednesday August 17th to have an action where we will send a
message
to the legislators in Sacramento that immigrants have a right to an unmarked
drivers license and to respond to the Governors open invitation to the
vigilante
group, the Minutemen!!
We had great success with our action in Sacramento (7/6/02), where more that
200
people arrived at the Capital and demanded their right to a license without
marks and that the governor revoke his statements concerning the minutemen!
A
marked license can be used as another method to obtain or harass those who
carry
it. Our communities wont stand for it! Immigrant rights are human rights!
Meeting at 24th and Mission
a las 9:00am on Aug 17th for our rally
>From there we will form a human chain down to Cesar Chavez Street
This event will occur at the same time as a press conference in Sacramento
held
by representatives from various community from Northern California!
¡Exigimos licencias ahora! !Ya Basta de vigilantes!
una coalición de varios grupos comunitarios del norte de California y
aliados
van a reunir el Miércoles 17 de Agosto para tener un acción donde vamos a
mandar
un mensaje a los legisladores de Sacramento que nosotros tenemos derecho a
tener
licencias sin marcas y para negar la invitación del Gobernador a los
Minutemen!
!Tu vimos gran éxito con nuestro viaje a Sacramento el 6 de julio! Más de
200
inmigrantes llegaron a el Capital para exigir licencias sin marcas y para
negar
la invitación a los Minutemen a California. Dar una marca especial a las
licencias de personas indocumentadas será utilizado como otra manera de
señalar
y de acosar la gente indocumentada.
Reunión en la 24 y Misión.
a las 9:00am Agosto 17 para marchar
De allí vamos a hacer un cordón humano hastacalle Cesar Chávez
\l
Este acción va ocurrir a la misma Vez de una conferencia en Sacramento donde
van
a llegar representantes de varios grupos comunitarios del
Norte de California!
We demand Licenses now! Stop the Minutemen!
Deporten a la Migra!:
Immigrants Fighting for their rights
A coalition of various community groups from Northern California and our
allies
will unite Wednesday August 17th to have an action where we will send a
message
to the legislators in Sacramento that immigrants have a right to an unmarked
drivers license and to respond to the Governors open invitation to the
vigilante
group, the Minutemen!!
We had great success with our action in Sacramento (7/6/02), where more that
200
people arrived at the Capital and demanded their right to a license without
marks and that the governor revoke his statements concerning the minutemen!
A
marked license can be used as another method to obtain or harass those who
carry
it. Our communities wont stand for it! Immigrant rights are human rights!
Meeting at 24th and Mission
a las 9:00am on Aug 17th for our rally
>From there we will form a human chain down to Cesar Chavez Street
This event will occur at the same time as a press conference in Sacramento
held
by representatives from various community from Northern California!
¡Exigimos licencias ahora! !Ya Basta de vigilantes!
una coalición de varios grupos comunitarios del norte de California y
aliados
van a reunir el Miércoles 17 de Agosto para tener un acción donde vamos a
mandar
un mensaje a los legisladores de Sacramento que nosotros tenemos derecho a
tener
licencias sin marcas y para negar la invitación del Gobernador a los
Minutemen!
!Tu vimos gran éxito con nuestro viaje a Sacramento el 6 de julio! Más de
200
inmigrantes llegaron a el Capital para exigir licencias sin marcas y para
negar
la invitación a los Minutemen a California. Dar una marca especial a las
licencias de personas indocumentadas será utilizado como otra manera de
señalar
y de acosar la gente indocumentada.
Reunión en la 24 y Misión.
a las 9:00am Agosto 17 para marchar
De allí vamos a hacer un cordón humano hastacalle Cesar Chávez
\l
Este acción va ocurrir a la misma Vez de una conferencia en Sacramento donde
van
a llegar representantes de varios grupos comunitarios del
Norte de California!
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Governor signals he'd welcome Minutemen on California border
James Sterngold and Mark Martin, Chronicle Staff Writers
Saturday, April 30, 2005
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger responded to harsh criticism about his support for armed volunteers who are patrolling the Arizona border with Mexico by praising the effort further Friday -- and an aide said they are welcome to operate in California.
Reaction to the governor's support of the Minuteman Project ranged Friday from a state assemblyman who suggested the encouragement was "dangerous'' and "increases the likelihood of people getting hurt,'' to applause from an activist who said Schwarzenegger's comments were likely to boost his effort to bring citizen border patrols to California.
The governor had called the news conference in Los Angeles to introduce his new education secretary, Alan Bersin, a hard-charging administrator from San Diego, where he has been the superintendent of schools since 1998. Bersin expressed a desire to work with California teachers but also promised to fight if they resist the governor's plans to reward successful teachers in the effort to improve school performance.
But any attempt to focus attention on Schwarzenegger's education agenda was short-lived, as the questions quickly turned to the border issue, always a hot-button political topic in California.
On Thursday, Schwarzenegger said on a Los Angeles radio show that the Minuteman Project, which has been patrolling the Mexican border in Arizona in an attempt to prevent illegal crossings, has been doing "a terrific job," and he credited the volunteers for reducing the flow of entries, though he provided no data.
Schwarzenegger, who immigrated to the United States from Austria more than 25 years ago, softened his comments only slightly Friday. He said he is a strong proponent of immigration, "but you've got to do it in a legal way." He said he favors proposals for a guest worker program that would allow some Mexicans to work in the United States and an opportunity, over time, to apply for citizenship.
Neighborhood watch
But the governor again expressed support for the Minutemen, who have been denounced by some, including President Bush, as vigilantes trying to take the law into their own hands. Schwarzenegger compared them to neighborhood patrol groups, in which citizens work with police to prevent crimes.
Those comments were quickly condemned in Sacramento.
"The border between California and Mexico is not a neighborhood,'' said Assemblyman Dave Jones, D-Sacramento, who worked on border issues for U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno during the Clinton administration. "It is a border between two nations. It's a border where there is a significant amount of illegal activity. There are people running around with guns.''
The governor said the point was to pressure the federal government into patrolling the border more vigorously to limit illegal crossings.
Schwarzenegger cut the news conference short after 15 minutes, but his press secretary, Margita Thompson, said later that the governor would welcome the Minutemen in California, as long as they comply with the law by not patrolling with weapons or violating other statutes.
She compared the group's efforts -- which involve looking for those trying to cross the border illegally and reporting the activity to federal border agents -- to the recall election that brought Schwarzenegger into office. She characterized the patrolling as a legitimate expression of frustration over the federal government's failure to stanch the inflow of undocumented workers.
4 agents killed since 2003
Jones called the administration's position "irresponsible'' and suggested Schwarzenegger is ignorant of the realities of the border.
"I'd ask him to go down there and talk to Border Patrol agents about what they're facing before he suggests that untrained, unprofessional volunteers should be roaming around that area,'' Jones said.
A spokesman for the Border Patrol refused to comment on Schwarzenegger's stand, but noted four Border Patrol agents had been killed on the job along the U.S.-Mexico border since 2003.
"Not everyone crossing is an economic migrant,'' said Mario Villarreal, a spokesman for the agency in Washington, D.C. "There are a lot of dangerous people, including murderers and drug smugglers. An untrained and unqualified person acting in the capacity of law enforcement risks becoming involved in a dangerous situation that jeopardizes not only themselves but also those around them.''
In San Francisco, immigrant activists blasted the governor.
"Gov. Schwarzenegger has stooped and catered to the worst sentiments of division, fear and racism,'' said Mark Silverman, director of immigration policy for the Immigrant Legal Resource Center.
He suggested people should be equally concerned about the laxness of the federal authorities in investigating people like Schwarzenegger, who has admitted working illegally in the United States while in the country as an Austrian immigrant in the 1970s.
"The hypocrisy and chutzpah of the governor is incredible,'' he said.
Guadalupe Siordia-Ortiz, a recently naturalized citizen, said she was "sad and insulted'' by the governor's support for the Minutemen. "We are people who come to this country to work,'' she said. "We are not criminals.''
Schwarzenegger's comments could help boost citizens' patrols, said an organizer of the efforts.
Next stop: California?
Andy Ramirez, who runs the nonprofit group Friends of the Border Patrol, said he hopes to meet with Minuteman organizers soon to plan for an August deployment of patrols in California.
Unlike in Arizona, Ramirez said, California volunteers would be unarmed. He said 400 people already have called his group, which is based in Chino (San Bernardino County), to say they want to participate.
"We're encouraged by (Schwarzenegger's comments), and I would be more than willing to talk to him more about this,'' Ramirez said.
Schwarzenegger also repeated his criticism Friday of groups that have placed water at critical stations in desert areas near the border.
The groups began those efforts after several tragedies in which groups of Mexicans died of exposure and dehydration near the border -- in particular, an occasion in March 2001 when a group of Mexicans was dumped by smugglers in the Arizona desert near Yuma, and 14 of them died.
The governor said the stations -- some put in place by church groups, others by the government -- are magnets for illegal immigrants and encourage illegal crossings. He refused to comment on the humanitarian concerns that are behind the stations.
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James Sterngold and Mark Martin, Chronicle Staff Writers
Saturday, April 30, 2005
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger responded to harsh criticism about his support for armed volunteers who are patrolling the Arizona border with Mexico by praising the effort further Friday -- and an aide said they are welcome to operate in California.
Reaction to the governor's support of the Minuteman Project ranged Friday from a state assemblyman who suggested the encouragement was "dangerous'' and "increases the likelihood of people getting hurt,'' to applause from an activist who said Schwarzenegger's comments were likely to boost his effort to bring citizen border patrols to California.
The governor had called the news conference in Los Angeles to introduce his new education secretary, Alan Bersin, a hard-charging administrator from San Diego, where he has been the superintendent of schools since 1998. Bersin expressed a desire to work with California teachers but also promised to fight if they resist the governor's plans to reward successful teachers in the effort to improve school performance.
But any attempt to focus attention on Schwarzenegger's education agenda was short-lived, as the questions quickly turned to the border issue, always a hot-button political topic in California.
On Thursday, Schwarzenegger said on a Los Angeles radio show that the Minuteman Project, which has been patrolling the Mexican border in Arizona in an attempt to prevent illegal crossings, has been doing "a terrific job," and he credited the volunteers for reducing the flow of entries, though he provided no data.
Schwarzenegger, who immigrated to the United States from Austria more than 25 years ago, softened his comments only slightly Friday. He said he is a strong proponent of immigration, "but you've got to do it in a legal way." He said he favors proposals for a guest worker program that would allow some Mexicans to work in the United States and an opportunity, over time, to apply for citizenship.
Neighborhood watch
But the governor again expressed support for the Minutemen, who have been denounced by some, including President Bush, as vigilantes trying to take the law into their own hands. Schwarzenegger compared them to neighborhood patrol groups, in which citizens work with police to prevent crimes.
Those comments were quickly condemned in Sacramento.
"The border between California and Mexico is not a neighborhood,'' said Assemblyman Dave Jones, D-Sacramento, who worked on border issues for U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno during the Clinton administration. "It is a border between two nations. It's a border where there is a significant amount of illegal activity. There are people running around with guns.''
The governor said the point was to pressure the federal government into patrolling the border more vigorously to limit illegal crossings.
Schwarzenegger cut the news conference short after 15 minutes, but his press secretary, Margita Thompson, said later that the governor would welcome the Minutemen in California, as long as they comply with the law by not patrolling with weapons or violating other statutes.
She compared the group's efforts -- which involve looking for those trying to cross the border illegally and reporting the activity to federal border agents -- to the recall election that brought Schwarzenegger into office. She characterized the patrolling as a legitimate expression of frustration over the federal government's failure to stanch the inflow of undocumented workers.
4 agents killed since 2003
Jones called the administration's position "irresponsible'' and suggested Schwarzenegger is ignorant of the realities of the border.
"I'd ask him to go down there and talk to Border Patrol agents about what they're facing before he suggests that untrained, unprofessional volunteers should be roaming around that area,'' Jones said.
A spokesman for the Border Patrol refused to comment on Schwarzenegger's stand, but noted four Border Patrol agents had been killed on the job along the U.S.-Mexico border since 2003.
"Not everyone crossing is an economic migrant,'' said Mario Villarreal, a spokesman for the agency in Washington, D.C. "There are a lot of dangerous people, including murderers and drug smugglers. An untrained and unqualified person acting in the capacity of law enforcement risks becoming involved in a dangerous situation that jeopardizes not only themselves but also those around them.''
In San Francisco, immigrant activists blasted the governor.
"Gov. Schwarzenegger has stooped and catered to the worst sentiments of division, fear and racism,'' said Mark Silverman, director of immigration policy for the Immigrant Legal Resource Center.
He suggested people should be equally concerned about the laxness of the federal authorities in investigating people like Schwarzenegger, who has admitted working illegally in the United States while in the country as an Austrian immigrant in the 1970s.
"The hypocrisy and chutzpah of the governor is incredible,'' he said.
Guadalupe Siordia-Ortiz, a recently naturalized citizen, said she was "sad and insulted'' by the governor's support for the Minutemen. "We are people who come to this country to work,'' she said. "We are not criminals.''
Schwarzenegger's comments could help boost citizens' patrols, said an organizer of the efforts.
Next stop: California?
Andy Ramirez, who runs the nonprofit group Friends of the Border Patrol, said he hopes to meet with Minuteman organizers soon to plan for an August deployment of patrols in California.
Unlike in Arizona, Ramirez said, California volunteers would be unarmed. He said 400 people already have called his group, which is based in Chino (San Bernardino County), to say they want to participate.
"We're encouraged by (Schwarzenegger's comments), and I would be more than willing to talk to him more about this,'' Ramirez said.
Schwarzenegger also repeated his criticism Friday of groups that have placed water at critical stations in desert areas near the border.
The groups began those efforts after several tragedies in which groups of Mexicans died of exposure and dehydration near the border -- in particular, an occasion in March 2001 when a group of Mexicans was dumped by smugglers in the Arizona desert near Yuma, and 14 of them died.
The governor said the stations -- some put in place by church groups, others by the government -- are magnets for illegal immigrants and encourage illegal crossings. He refused to comment on the humanitarian concerns that are behind the stations.
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Why are you complaining again? My wife is an immigrant and got a license without any problem. Are you guys legal? If not, let's get the blue buses at the end of your chain and load you all up. If you are legal, good for you, just apply for the license.
as reported by Amnesty International
while Mexico cries foul on us immigration policies, lets look at how
THEY handle illegal immigration from Guatemala to their south.....
The federalizes apprehend the immigrants at the boarded if possible, or shortly after the Guatemalans are trucked to the boarder in cattle trucks where the federalizes strip them naked, then beat them senseless and drag them back across the boarder.
When the federalies where questioned about this practice they responded , these peons need to be taught a lesson, how dare they violate our boarders. they have no rights here. and we can do what ever we want.
this practice has gone on for years despite the objections of
Amnesty International and other human rights organizations there have been countless deaths and injuries associated with this inhumane treatment.
while Mexico cries foul on us immigration policies, lets look at how
THEY handle illegal immigration from Guatemala to their south.....
The federalizes apprehend the immigrants at the boarded if possible, or shortly after the Guatemalans are trucked to the boarder in cattle trucks where the federalizes strip them naked, then beat them senseless and drag them back across the boarder.
When the federalies where questioned about this practice they responded , these peons need to be taught a lesson, how dare they violate our boarders. they have no rights here. and we can do what ever we want.
this practice has gone on for years despite the objections of
Amnesty International and other human rights organizations there have been countless deaths and injuries associated with this inhumane treatment.
Not fooled, you mean that the Guatamalians can't get lower tuition rates, health care, driver's licenses..... when they enter mexico illegally? I was going to enter Mexico illegally and demand bilingual education for my kids, health care, drivers' license, and all the other things the illegals in this country demand of us. I guess I am detured.
I think it's funny that you are spilling ignorant and hateful messages without even being aware of it.
Back in 1492 some fucker brought their illegal white ass across the atlantic, and along with his kind proceeded to take and destroy everything in the name of progress. Killing millions, spreading disease, and destroying a valuable way of life.
Illegitimate governments popped up all over this new world, and eventually space ran out so that one illegitimate government (the USA) decided to take another illegitimate government's land(Mexico). Thats why our state of california, and even the city you live in, or perhaps the street you live on has a spanish name, or even an indigenous name. You think San Francisco is named that by coincidence?
So my point is that you are as illegal as the illegals, and if you don't watch out your kind is on the way out. Who is to say who is illegal and who is legal? That's bullshit, all you can say is that we are ALL Humans, and thus deserve the respect, freedom, and dignity that all humans deserve.
embrace the brotherhood, and quit being an elitist nationalist ignorant fool, please.
Back in 1492 some fucker brought their illegal white ass across the atlantic, and along with his kind proceeded to take and destroy everything in the name of progress. Killing millions, spreading disease, and destroying a valuable way of life.
Illegitimate governments popped up all over this new world, and eventually space ran out so that one illegitimate government (the USA) decided to take another illegitimate government's land(Mexico). Thats why our state of california, and even the city you live in, or perhaps the street you live on has a spanish name, or even an indigenous name. You think San Francisco is named that by coincidence?
So my point is that you are as illegal as the illegals, and if you don't watch out your kind is on the way out. Who is to say who is illegal and who is legal? That's bullshit, all you can say is that we are ALL Humans, and thus deserve the respect, freedom, and dignity that all humans deserve.
embrace the brotherhood, and quit being an elitist nationalist ignorant fool, please.
and sisterhood :)
Nice language. Go read some history. Being part indian, I am glad the brave Columbus discovered America. Remember, the peaceful indians were thousands of years behind the Europeans and Mideasterners. Thus, they could not have discovered Europe for another thousand years. Had they discovered Europe, they would have brought disease and war to Europe.
Look at Mexico. Do you really think we want that corruption here. The last I heard, the police chief of Warez was driving a stolen truck. Is there any wonder that the Warez markes are closing down because people for El Paso don't want to go be harrassed?
Why are you here anyway? Why don't you live your life in Mexico?
The debate is licenses. We want to know who is driving. Illegals typically lie about their names (I represented a lot of them and I didn't even know their names) and they already broke the law coming here. They can simply get licenses like the LEGALS do. It is not a big deal.
Look at Mexico. Do you really think we want that corruption here. The last I heard, the police chief of Warez was driving a stolen truck. Is there any wonder that the Warez markes are closing down because people for El Paso don't want to go be harrassed?
Why are you here anyway? Why don't you live your life in Mexico?
The debate is licenses. We want to know who is driving. Illegals typically lie about their names (I represented a lot of them and I didn't even know their names) and they already broke the law coming here. They can simply get licenses like the LEGALS do. It is not a big deal.
***(Your ignorant quote)Go read some history. Being part indian, I am glad the brave Columbus discovered America. Remember, the peaceful indians were thousands of years behind the Europeans and Mideasterners. Thus, they could not have discovered Europe for another thousand years. Had they discovered Europe, they would have brought disease and war to Europe.****
I think you need to go investigate history, brave Colobus? LOL! try this http://www.illinimedia.com/di/archives/1995/October/9/edit1.html
or
http://www.newstarget.com/009290.html
or
http://www.danielnpaul.com/ChristopherColumbus.html
For some perspective
I think you need to go investigate history, brave Colobus? LOL! try this http://www.illinimedia.com/di/archives/1995/October/9/edit1.html
or
http://www.newstarget.com/009290.html
or
http://www.danielnpaul.com/ChristopherColumbus.html
For some perspective
FUCK ALL YALL FRISCO FAGOT DIKES CRAKERS! FUCK YALL! TALK SHIT ON THE STREET LITTLE BITCHES LETS SEE WHAT HAPPEND! THE WHITE RACE IS DIEYIN!
THATS WHY IM PRO GAY AND PRO LESBIAN! JAJAJAJA
NO MORE CAUCASIAN SCUM TO BE REPRODUCE! KEEP FUCKIN WITH OUT HAVIN KIDS CRACKES! THATS WHAT WE NEED! THE END OF THE "WHITE" (PINK) RACE. FUCK YALL
THATS WHY IM PRO GAY AND PRO LESBIAN! JAJAJAJA
NO MORE CAUCASIAN SCUM TO BE REPRODUCE! KEEP FUCKIN WITH OUT HAVIN KIDS CRACKES! THATS WHAT WE NEED! THE END OF THE "WHITE" (PINK) RACE. FUCK YALL
So when exactly did the indians learn to navigate the seas? As I recall, they had some little success with the shorelines. How about the wheel. It hadn't been invented yet except for toys.
If you hate being here so much, leave. You are free to go back to your native north korea.
Hey "cracker killer." Get over it. Try to help others make something of themselves instead of a bunch of complainers. Use Condeleza Rice as a good example as a success. So, am I racist if I reply as N-killer?
If you hate being here so much, leave. You are free to go back to your native north korea.
Hey "cracker killer." Get over it. Try to help others make something of themselves instead of a bunch of complainers. Use Condeleza Rice as a good example as a success. So, am I racist if I reply as N-killer?
To Cracker Killer,
Try to spell correctly before even thinking about saying anything. Being a cracker, I don't know what "dieyin" means. Maybe you meant "dying"?
Well, anyway, I live in Europe and white people are getting great. Thanks for asking.
Try to spell correctly before even thinking about saying anything. Being a cracker, I don't know what "dieyin" means. Maybe you meant "dying"?
Well, anyway, I live in Europe and white people are getting great. Thanks for asking.
A RIDE BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY!
NO DRIVES LICENSE FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS.
GO THE HELL HOME AND STOP JUMPING THE DAMN FENCE.
NO DRIVES LICENSE FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS.
GO THE HELL HOME AND STOP JUMPING THE DAMN FENCE.
"I think it's funny that you are spilling ignorant and hateful messages without even being aware of it.
Back in 1492 some fucker brought their illegal white ass across the atlantic, and along with his kind proceeded to take and destroy everything in the name of progress. Killing millions, spreading disease, and destroying a valuable way of life.
Illegitimate governments popped up all over this new world, and eventually space ran out so that one illegitimate government (the USA) decided to take another illegitimate government's land(Mexico). Thats why our state of california, and even the city you live in, or perhaps the street you live on has a spanish name, or even an indigenous name. You think San Francisco is named that by coincidence?
So my point is that you are as illegal as the illegals, and if you don't watch out your kind is on the way out. Who is to say who is illegal and who is legal? That's bullshit, all you can say is that we are ALL Humans, and thus deserve the respect, freedom, and dignity that all humans deserve.
embrace the brotherhood, and quit being an elitist nationalist ignorant fool, please. "
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Reply:
Isn't it hilarious that the illegal scum that is foreign to United States territory tries to explain history to us?
(You are foreign if you had to cross the Rio Grande)
They go back a few hundred years to justify their illegal presence here!
Mexican---you stole the American southwest from the Indians and the Spanish-------I suppose you wish to deny that?
Mexico was only here 26 years.
Most Spanish names were initiated by THE SPANISH, not
Mexicans.
Go home and try to fix Mexico DUMBELLS!
You are not popular in the U.S. and our distain for all of you
is growing by leaps and bounds.
Back in 1492 some fucker brought their illegal white ass across the atlantic, and along with his kind proceeded to take and destroy everything in the name of progress. Killing millions, spreading disease, and destroying a valuable way of life.
Illegitimate governments popped up all over this new world, and eventually space ran out so that one illegitimate government (the USA) decided to take another illegitimate government's land(Mexico). Thats why our state of california, and even the city you live in, or perhaps the street you live on has a spanish name, or even an indigenous name. You think San Francisco is named that by coincidence?
So my point is that you are as illegal as the illegals, and if you don't watch out your kind is on the way out. Who is to say who is illegal and who is legal? That's bullshit, all you can say is that we are ALL Humans, and thus deserve the respect, freedom, and dignity that all humans deserve.
embrace the brotherhood, and quit being an elitist nationalist ignorant fool, please. "
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Reply:
Isn't it hilarious that the illegal scum that is foreign to United States territory tries to explain history to us?
(You are foreign if you had to cross the Rio Grande)
They go back a few hundred years to justify their illegal presence here!
Mexican---you stole the American southwest from the Indians and the Spanish-------I suppose you wish to deny that?
Mexico was only here 26 years.
Most Spanish names were initiated by THE SPANISH, not
Mexicans.
Go home and try to fix Mexico DUMBELLS!
You are not popular in the U.S. and our distain for all of you
is growing by leaps and bounds.
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