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Ward Churchill's 9/11 opinions Draw Emotional Crowd
I thought this was an interesting article on a Churchill appearance and the polzrization by politics outside. I think Churchill is wrong - 9/11 was orchestrated by the Bush Admin or others above that (who then proceeded to benefit immensely from it), since bin Laden clearly can't stand down the US military nor bring down the tower that no plane hit, WTC7, and get a commission to lie about it all - but I would like to imagine Churchill's message could be a reality, the blowback for US policices. The alternative - that the fascist boot will simply slowly crush and pulverize any meaningful resistance via guns, fear, propaganda, dissapearing and torturing everyone - is far worse to imagine, a sort of Matrix in the future where we're all enslaved without knowing it. Churchill, thus, is a beacon on hope, despite the incorrect assumption from the start on his part about the cause of 9/11. I also liked the inclusion of how much he was paid, at the end.
Ward Churchill's 9/11 opinions Draw Emotional Crowd
Controversial writer Wspeaks at local university
By CLARISSA ALJENTERA and JOE LIVERNOIS
Monterey (California) Herald Staff Writers
Tuesday May 3, 2005, page one
Several dozen people gathered at CSU-Monterey Bay on Monday to read the
names of the victims of the Sept. 11
attacks to protest the appearance of a University of Colorado professor
who they believe tarnished the names
of those victims.
But more than 500 others gathered inside the University Center Ballroom
to listen to Ward Churchill deliver
a scathing indictment of U.S. policies, policies he believes led to the
9/11 attacks.
"We don't believe in any of the things he is saying," said Kenneth
Beadell, who was carrying an American flag
during the remembrance.
Beadell, a Vietnam veteran, was standing about 20 yards from a group of
people who came out to protest the war
in Iraq.
"People have given their lives for people to have freedom to
demonstrate," he said.
The candlelight vigil was planned by the Republican party of Monterey
County along with the young Republicans
at CSUMB.
"This is supposed to be a contrast," said Kelly Bland, president of the
Young Republicans.
The reading of the names of the Sept. 11 victims was not meant to be a
protest of Churchill's lecture,
said Paul Bruno, co-chairman of the Monterey County Republican Party.
"Churchill has a right to free speech," said Bruno. "This is a
contrast. It is not political. Sept. 11
was not political. This man spews hate speech. What we are doing is
remembering the victims."
Around 6 p.m. the names of the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks were
read and about 30 minutes later people
protesting the war began chanting anti-President Bush messages. The
group against the war in Iraq dispersed
and filtered into the building while the group reading the names of the
Sept. 11 victims continued.
Gus Moutos, who lost his son Peter in the World Trade Center bombing,
said he wasn't pleased with the message Churchill was sending out.
"I have an objection to anyone who comes to misinform the students,"
said Moutos, carrying a framed photograph
of his son.
During his 1-hour and 45-minute speech, Churchill did not back down
from his 3½-year-old, description of
World Trade Center victims as ''little Eichmanns'' that has recently
turned him into a subject of conservative torment while propelling him
into the latest liberal champion du jour.
In Colorado, politicians and regents are calling for his head, Bill
O'Reilly set aside time on his TV program
to excoriate the professor, and Churchill has received more than 60,000
mostly-angry e-mails since January.
"I'm still standing," he said. "I became the poster boy for academic
freedom. I didn't ask for this."
And he said he doesn't expect it to last much longer, and he noted
Monday that his name is already starting
to fade as a nation turns its attention to "runaway brides and Michael
Jackson."
Churchill has found himself at the center of an academic firestorm for
a 20-page essay he wrote for an obscure
Web magazine the day of the 9/11 attacks in which he described the
victims of the World Trade Center's destruction
as "Little Eichmanns," referring to the Nazi technocrat who assiduously
did his job, leading to the genocide of millions of Jews.
Churchill said Monday he never said that the WTC victims "deserved" to
die, but said that systematic economic sanctions and policies of
aggression by the U.S. have fostered enemies who inevitably reacted in kind.
And, he said, the victims at WTC were working at jobs that, like Adolph
Eichmann's, support a system that
has led to millions of deaths worldwide in the name of American might.
While watching the devastation on Sept. 11, Churchill said he was
struck by the immediate reaction in the
American media that the attacks were "senseless acts."
"This is not happening by accident," Churchill said he told himself.
"This is not happening extemporaneously.
Whoever did this planned it with a purpose. If there's a purpose,
there's a motive. If there's a motive,
you can't conceivably call it senseless."
Churchill said he "immediately flashed on" Malcolm X's reaction to John
F. Kennedy's assassination in 1963,
that "the chickens are coming home to roost."
Churchill then recited a litany of what he termed "genocidal" policies
against people, both foreign and in the U.S., dating back to the
elimination of American Indians, to slavery and to the brutal use of Chinese
immigrants to build the railroads.
In the modern era, Churchill said, the "policy of genocide" extends to
the deaths of more than 500,000 children
in Iraq in 1996 that he attributes to U.S. sanctions on Iraq, to
Nagasaki and Hiroshima, to CIA-led intervention
in Latin America and to continuing conflicts in the Mideast.
"Doing this to other people is a fundamental requirement to what it
means to be the United States," he said.
So, he added, it should not come as a surprise when the United States
becomes a target. And the response to
America's "terrorism problem," Churchill said, is to "perpetuate the
reason people dislike us to begin with."
Churchill came under fire after he had written an essay saying the
United States set itself up for attack
because of an unlawful American foreign policy that resulted in killing
countless innocent people around
the world.
Caitlin Manning had heard Churchill's information and was eager to see
the literature that was given out before
the lecture began. The flier urged Churchill to go back to his ''tee
pee'' and said anyone on his side was with
the terrorists.
"I'm actually one of the few people who read his quotes and looked at
what he said," said Manning, a faculty
member at the university. "I thought there was some truth to it. It was
the racist stuff what brought me here."
Although the flier looked as if it was circulated by the CSUMB College
Republicans, members of the organization
said they didn't create it.
Churchill's appearance was partly sponsored by CSUMB's MEChA
organization.
Zoilo Avila, 23, co-chairman of the campus group, said MEChA has been
trying to lure Churchill to the campus
for years, even before Churchill became the subject of the heated
debate. Avila also said he welcomed the
protest outside.
"I think it's great," he said. "It's a dialogue that is healthy. He
stated his case and it's a different side
and a different light. It's important that people not become
intellectually lazy."
Churchill was paid $4,000 from student-body fees for his appearance.
Controversial writer Wspeaks at local university
By CLARISSA ALJENTERA and JOE LIVERNOIS
Monterey (California) Herald Staff Writers
Tuesday May 3, 2005, page one
Several dozen people gathered at CSU-Monterey Bay on Monday to read the
names of the victims of the Sept. 11
attacks to protest the appearance of a University of Colorado professor
who they believe tarnished the names
of those victims.
But more than 500 others gathered inside the University Center Ballroom
to listen to Ward Churchill deliver
a scathing indictment of U.S. policies, policies he believes led to the
9/11 attacks.
"We don't believe in any of the things he is saying," said Kenneth
Beadell, who was carrying an American flag
during the remembrance.
Beadell, a Vietnam veteran, was standing about 20 yards from a group of
people who came out to protest the war
in Iraq.
"People have given their lives for people to have freedom to
demonstrate," he said.
The candlelight vigil was planned by the Republican party of Monterey
County along with the young Republicans
at CSUMB.
"This is supposed to be a contrast," said Kelly Bland, president of the
Young Republicans.
The reading of the names of the Sept. 11 victims was not meant to be a
protest of Churchill's lecture,
said Paul Bruno, co-chairman of the Monterey County Republican Party.
"Churchill has a right to free speech," said Bruno. "This is a
contrast. It is not political. Sept. 11
was not political. This man spews hate speech. What we are doing is
remembering the victims."
Around 6 p.m. the names of the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks were
read and about 30 minutes later people
protesting the war began chanting anti-President Bush messages. The
group against the war in Iraq dispersed
and filtered into the building while the group reading the names of the
Sept. 11 victims continued.
Gus Moutos, who lost his son Peter in the World Trade Center bombing,
said he wasn't pleased with the message Churchill was sending out.
"I have an objection to anyone who comes to misinform the students,"
said Moutos, carrying a framed photograph
of his son.
During his 1-hour and 45-minute speech, Churchill did not back down
from his 3½-year-old, description of
World Trade Center victims as ''little Eichmanns'' that has recently
turned him into a subject of conservative torment while propelling him
into the latest liberal champion du jour.
In Colorado, politicians and regents are calling for his head, Bill
O'Reilly set aside time on his TV program
to excoriate the professor, and Churchill has received more than 60,000
mostly-angry e-mails since January.
"I'm still standing," he said. "I became the poster boy for academic
freedom. I didn't ask for this."
And he said he doesn't expect it to last much longer, and he noted
Monday that his name is already starting
to fade as a nation turns its attention to "runaway brides and Michael
Jackson."
Churchill has found himself at the center of an academic firestorm for
a 20-page essay he wrote for an obscure
Web magazine the day of the 9/11 attacks in which he described the
victims of the World Trade Center's destruction
as "Little Eichmanns," referring to the Nazi technocrat who assiduously
did his job, leading to the genocide of millions of Jews.
Churchill said Monday he never said that the WTC victims "deserved" to
die, but said that systematic economic sanctions and policies of
aggression by the U.S. have fostered enemies who inevitably reacted in kind.
And, he said, the victims at WTC were working at jobs that, like Adolph
Eichmann's, support a system that
has led to millions of deaths worldwide in the name of American might.
While watching the devastation on Sept. 11, Churchill said he was
struck by the immediate reaction in the
American media that the attacks were "senseless acts."
"This is not happening by accident," Churchill said he told himself.
"This is not happening extemporaneously.
Whoever did this planned it with a purpose. If there's a purpose,
there's a motive. If there's a motive,
you can't conceivably call it senseless."
Churchill said he "immediately flashed on" Malcolm X's reaction to John
F. Kennedy's assassination in 1963,
that "the chickens are coming home to roost."
Churchill then recited a litany of what he termed "genocidal" policies
against people, both foreign and in the U.S., dating back to the
elimination of American Indians, to slavery and to the brutal use of Chinese
immigrants to build the railroads.
In the modern era, Churchill said, the "policy of genocide" extends to
the deaths of more than 500,000 children
in Iraq in 1996 that he attributes to U.S. sanctions on Iraq, to
Nagasaki and Hiroshima, to CIA-led intervention
in Latin America and to continuing conflicts in the Mideast.
"Doing this to other people is a fundamental requirement to what it
means to be the United States," he said.
So, he added, it should not come as a surprise when the United States
becomes a target. And the response to
America's "terrorism problem," Churchill said, is to "perpetuate the
reason people dislike us to begin with."
Churchill came under fire after he had written an essay saying the
United States set itself up for attack
because of an unlawful American foreign policy that resulted in killing
countless innocent people around
the world.
Caitlin Manning had heard Churchill's information and was eager to see
the literature that was given out before
the lecture began. The flier urged Churchill to go back to his ''tee
pee'' and said anyone on his side was with
the terrorists.
"I'm actually one of the few people who read his quotes and looked at
what he said," said Manning, a faculty
member at the university. "I thought there was some truth to it. It was
the racist stuff what brought me here."
Although the flier looked as if it was circulated by the CSUMB College
Republicans, members of the organization
said they didn't create it.
Churchill's appearance was partly sponsored by CSUMB's MEChA
organization.
Zoilo Avila, 23, co-chairman of the campus group, said MEChA has been
trying to lure Churchill to the campus
for years, even before Churchill became the subject of the heated
debate. Avila also said he welcomed the
protest outside.
"I think it's great," he said. "It's a dialogue that is healthy. He
stated his case and it's a different side
and a different light. It's important that people not become
intellectually lazy."
Churchill was paid $4,000 from student-body fees for his appearance.
For more information:
http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/monterey...
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Yes, this is a surprisingly even-handed article. If you look at news.google, some of the reports that come up in the Denver post and so forth are pretty ignorant - where a nonjournalist could find many basic facts that are incorrect after doing a bit of outside reading.
Some white people just can't stand it when a non-European tells them the blatant, unvarnished truth.
Native Americans suffered - and overall still suffer on reservations from the legacy of - even a much much greater genocide than the European Jews, many of whom went on to perpetrate a semi-genocidal catastrophe in another non-European land and against another indigenous people - Native Palestinians.
I think that Churchill is more than qualified to judge who "little Eichmann's" are. It's like the Arab journalist in the documentary movie "Control Room" said (paraphrased): 'It's not enough that the US wants to oppress us, kill us, and take or control our land; the US wants us to like it too!'
Native Americans suffered - and overall still suffer on reservations from the legacy of - even a much much greater genocide than the European Jews, many of whom went on to perpetrate a semi-genocidal catastrophe in another non-European land and against another indigenous people - Native Palestinians.
I think that Churchill is more than qualified to judge who "little Eichmann's" are. It's like the Arab journalist in the documentary movie "Control Room" said (paraphrased): 'It's not enough that the US wants to oppress us, kill us, and take or control our land; the US wants us to like it too!'
Yes, but to think of Ward Churchill as non-european is a little riduculous. The man is only 1/8th native american. Well so am I, by family tales one of my great grandmothers was native american, (the birth certificate of my grandfather was curiously omitted 'mother'), and grandpaw defintely had a lot of Amerind features, but that does not make me non-european, (except in Lousianna).
a native american man was nearly stomped to death by a group of young white high school types , well dressed clean looking ''all american'' guys.the cops showed little interest ion going after the perpetrators.this was in bellingham wa. ,80 miles north of seattle.a black man was also run over and killed in bellingham 3 years ago.the driver of the car was shouting ''damn niggers'' as he ran the black man down.you heard about malvo -muhammad from bellingham, but you didnt hear about this racial murder because the bellingham hedidnt publicize it widely even in the local news.many people didnt even know about it.the police try to stomp down any talk of racist attacks. (correction for above. it's the bellingham herald newspaper,check their website regularly about local violences and bank robberies.mostly whites rob banks in bham, but the police ALWAYS slow down and watch black or native people whenb they are merely carrying out their daily life.) i personally dont trust the government or any more.they have shown that they are ready to kill anyone they dont want around.keep up the worldwide struggle
As the person introducing this article stated, 9/11 was an inside job, and that was obvious the day it happened to any thinking person as our air defense was obviously told to stand down, or as we soon later learned, paralyzed by the air force's planned war games on that day, making it impossible for our excellent air defense to stop the first plane crash, as well as the rest, which they could easily have done. The planes were on automatic pilot guided by the US Air Force. Michael Ruppert's Crossing the Rubicon describes all of this in detail with lots of footnotes providing sources. The Twin Towers were brought down with construction explosives and the Pentagon was damaged by construction explosives. This has been documented in many places, including David Ray Griffin's books The New Pearl Harbor and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions.
In addition to it being obvious the day it happened that someone at the highest levels prevented our excellent air defense from stopping this Inside Job, anyone who is serious about radical workingclass change knows that this kind of action is unthinkable. In other words, only the capitalist class has, as Ruppert states, the Motive, Means and Opportunity to carry out this mass murder, with the goal for the capitalist class being as was immediately obvious to perpetrate fascism at home and war abroad, all to maximize the profits of the capitalist class, the primary goal of capitalism. To use this reactionary crime, high treason in fact as it was carried out by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld & Rice, as a means of attacking Americans who gain nothing from all of this, is viciously reactionary.
We should remember Ward Churchill supported the contras, the CIA's murderous thugs, in Nicaragua, against the Sandinsta government.
Whether Churchill is just plain stupid or has a reactionary agenda, he is not worth $4,000 or 1 penny of anyone's money, much less student fees.
What we need is labor organizing to put an end to capitalism. To do that, it is the duty of all people serious about radical change to reach out to our fellow workers, find common grounds of suffering, which is not difficult, and build a labor movement strong enough to organize a general strike. Only a strong labor movement can put an end to such heinous, anti-workingclass crimes as the 9/11 Inside Job.
In addition to it being obvious the day it happened that someone at the highest levels prevented our excellent air defense from stopping this Inside Job, anyone who is serious about radical workingclass change knows that this kind of action is unthinkable. In other words, only the capitalist class has, as Ruppert states, the Motive, Means and Opportunity to carry out this mass murder, with the goal for the capitalist class being as was immediately obvious to perpetrate fascism at home and war abroad, all to maximize the profits of the capitalist class, the primary goal of capitalism. To use this reactionary crime, high treason in fact as it was carried out by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld & Rice, as a means of attacking Americans who gain nothing from all of this, is viciously reactionary.
We should remember Ward Churchill supported the contras, the CIA's murderous thugs, in Nicaragua, against the Sandinsta government.
Whether Churchill is just plain stupid or has a reactionary agenda, he is not worth $4,000 or 1 penny of anyone's money, much less student fees.
What we need is labor organizing to put an end to capitalism. To do that, it is the duty of all people serious about radical change to reach out to our fellow workers, find common grounds of suffering, which is not difficult, and build a labor movement strong enough to organize a general strike. Only a strong labor movement can put an end to such heinous, anti-workingclass crimes as the 9/11 Inside Job.
PiratePrentice: "Yes, but to think of Ward Churchill as non-european is a little riduculous. The man is only 1/8th native american."
I don't know if what you say is true, but, if he were of 1/8th Black descent, then that would have made him Black by the traditional laws of most (if not all) states in the U.S. -- and he certainly would have been treated that way by white society.
Many African Americans are far from not pure "black" either. Thanks to the historical legacy of slavery, the slave master and other white rapists, many blacks could probably best be described as Euro-African-American or even Euro-African-Native American. Or, as the former and famous Black Panther Johnny Spain humorously quips, "Why does white society call me a light-skin black man, and not a dark-skin white man?" His mother was white; his father was black (and maybe still part white, due to the slave master in his father's ancestry).
My biological ancestry includes African, Native American, and Irish. Yet, I (and my black parents) not only identified, ethnically and culturally, as Black, but were legally stipulated as black by the government -- whether any of us liked it or not. My mother has dark skin; her sister has very light skin. I was not raised culturally as Native American or Irish, so I don't culturally identify as either. If Churchill's mother "told him he was Native American", and she was, and he culturally identified, or was raised as such, and his community of brothren and sisteren was Native American, then that's good enough for me. Race, ethnicity, and culture were never absolute and fixed concepts or realities.
Btw, many English don't consider themselves European, and many Irish -- in Ireland -- don't consider themselves white. I've been accused and *blamed* by numerous whites throughout my adult life of either being "too black", when I say something sociological/historical that whites don't want to hear and face -- while, ironically, Churchill gets accused of not being Indian enough for doing the same -- or my being accused and "*complimented*" by numerous whites throughout my adult life as "not really black", when other whites are complimenting my speech, manners, or intelligence.
The white man's "one drop rule" legally declared anyone who had, *one single drop* of so-called "black blood" to be black -- with no choice in the matter. So, by many whites' reasoning, one drop of "black blood" makes someone *too black*, while suddenly, now, (even well more than) one drop of Indian blood makes someone *not Indian enough*! White-American society is always trying to set and manipulate the standards of race, ethnicity and culture to suit their own purposes -- and especially when a minority -- who many whites are trying to discredit -- is telling whites something they don't want to hear.
I don't know if what you say is true, but, if he were of 1/8th Black descent, then that would have made him Black by the traditional laws of most (if not all) states in the U.S. -- and he certainly would have been treated that way by white society.
Many African Americans are far from not pure "black" either. Thanks to the historical legacy of slavery, the slave master and other white rapists, many blacks could probably best be described as Euro-African-American or even Euro-African-Native American. Or, as the former and famous Black Panther Johnny Spain humorously quips, "Why does white society call me a light-skin black man, and not a dark-skin white man?" His mother was white; his father was black (and maybe still part white, due to the slave master in his father's ancestry).
My biological ancestry includes African, Native American, and Irish. Yet, I (and my black parents) not only identified, ethnically and culturally, as Black, but were legally stipulated as black by the government -- whether any of us liked it or not. My mother has dark skin; her sister has very light skin. I was not raised culturally as Native American or Irish, so I don't culturally identify as either. If Churchill's mother "told him he was Native American", and she was, and he culturally identified, or was raised as such, and his community of brothren and sisteren was Native American, then that's good enough for me. Race, ethnicity, and culture were never absolute and fixed concepts or realities.
Btw, many English don't consider themselves European, and many Irish -- in Ireland -- don't consider themselves white. I've been accused and *blamed* by numerous whites throughout my adult life of either being "too black", when I say something sociological/historical that whites don't want to hear and face -- while, ironically, Churchill gets accused of not being Indian enough for doing the same -- or my being accused and "*complimented*" by numerous whites throughout my adult life as "not really black", when other whites are complimenting my speech, manners, or intelligence.
The white man's "one drop rule" legally declared anyone who had, *one single drop* of so-called "black blood" to be black -- with no choice in the matter. So, by many whites' reasoning, one drop of "black blood" makes someone *too black*, while suddenly, now, (even well more than) one drop of Indian blood makes someone *not Indian enough*! White-American society is always trying to set and manipulate the standards of race, ethnicity and culture to suit their own purposes -- and especially when a minority -- who many whites are trying to discredit -- is telling whites something they don't want to hear.
JA - If Churchill's mother "told him he was Native American", and she was, and he culturally identified, or was raised as such, and his community of brothren and sisteren was Native American, then that's good enough for me. Race, ethnicity, and culture were never absolute and fixed concepts or realities.
Churchill's Native American identity has been disputed by the Amercican Indian Movement, (which he has also been a prominent spokesman for), well before the "Roosting Chickens" Article. A press release by AIM in 2003 refered to him as adescribed as a "Self Hating White man", http://www.aics.org/AIMGGC/press12162003.html. His role in the Denver chapter of AIM has also very contiversial within the movement.
Churchill himself has never claimed more than 3/16 Cherokee blood, though at other times he has claimed only 1/16 Cherokee, and yet at other times some Creek ancestry. He is an "associate" member of the Keetoowah band of Cherokee and does not have full membership which requires 1/4 Cherokee descent. The Keetoowah earlier established an "associate member" program, (which has become discontinued due to abuse), to recognize friends of the tribe. Associate membership does not require any proof of Indian ancestry, http://www.aimovement.org/moipr/cherokee.html
Look, I agree with the with the Churchill's arguements regarding our moral responsability for the WTC, (for all the Freepers reading this, the citizens of Dresden didn't do anything either). The culpability for 9/11 lies with all americans, (black, white and brown), living inside this Fourth Reich. I just think that false claims to an ethnic identity weakens those arguements.
For more information:
http://www.aimovement.org/moipr/churchill0...
Regardless of whether he really does have native blood or not, the mention of questionability of his lineage is nothing more than a RED HERRING. The very people who even began digging this out, in response to the current "scandal" with his essay (which was written a few YEARS ago) are the right wing conservative sellouts of the Native "American" community and have published their opinions in equally conservative newspapers such as Indian Country.
So if his lineage was really that much of a big deal (which it actually is among us), then why in the hell wasn't it put "out there" as militantly as it is today? These folks have plenty of moving and shaking going on, so it could have been done.
So if his lineage was really that much of a big deal (which it actually is among us), then why in the hell wasn't it put "out there" as militantly as it is today? These folks have plenty of moving and shaking going on, so it could have been done.
PiratePrentice: "Look, I agree with the with the Churchill's arguements regarding our moral responsability for the WTC, (for all the Freepers reading this, the citizens of Dresden didn't do anything either). The culpability for 9/11 lies with all americans, (black, white and brown), living inside this Fourth Reich. I just think that false claims to an ethnic identity weakens those arguements."
No it doesn't!
(Liberals, and even progressives -- and judging from people like Chomsky, Zinn, Moore, M.Parenti, Solomon, etc., and their support for Kerry in the last election -- maybe it's just, in general, *Americans* -- are so easily distracted.)
Churchill would be *EXACTLY RIGHT* even if he were a white, long-haired blonde, blue-eyed, tall, skinny model with big tits, red pouty lips, and straight outta Sweden!
It'd be wonderful if a white guy as prominent as Churchill *would* say such a thing.
Full Blood is right -- for those who are distracted by the side issue of Churchill's lineage, and by those who want to distract us from the *MERITS* of Churchill's arguments and onto ad hominem issues.
Furthermore there are Uncle Toms, Uncle Bananas, Uncle Coconuts (I met a politically-white-ass-kissing' College Republican one supporting and puppy-dogging some arch-Zionist female know-nothing student at Churchill's speech at Berkeley), and even Uncle 'Tomahawks', and all their sellout groups, fighting for Mighty Whitey, The Man, in every minority.
No it doesn't!
(Liberals, and even progressives -- and judging from people like Chomsky, Zinn, Moore, M.Parenti, Solomon, etc., and their support for Kerry in the last election -- maybe it's just, in general, *Americans* -- are so easily distracted.)
Churchill would be *EXACTLY RIGHT* even if he were a white, long-haired blonde, blue-eyed, tall, skinny model with big tits, red pouty lips, and straight outta Sweden!
It'd be wonderful if a white guy as prominent as Churchill *would* say such a thing.
Full Blood is right -- for those who are distracted by the side issue of Churchill's lineage, and by those who want to distract us from the *MERITS* of Churchill's arguments and onto ad hominem issues.
Furthermore there are Uncle Toms, Uncle Bananas, Uncle Coconuts (I met a politically-white-ass-kissing' College Republican one supporting and puppy-dogging some arch-Zionist female know-nothing student at Churchill's speech at Berkeley), and even Uncle 'Tomahawks', and all their sellout groups, fighting for Mighty Whitey, The Man, in every minority.
>>The culpability for 9/11 lies with all americans
Wrong. It lies with those in power who are busy destroying the world in the name of 'more power.'
And it lies directly in the hands of those who orchestrated 9/11 - we know from all the evidence now that people in our own government must have been involved because no one else can STAND DOWN the US military.
Can you? No? Then your culpability in 9/11 is secondary, if anything. Each one of us can do the best we can, but we can't bat against the Bill Gates's and the Donald Trumps . . . the white and the powerful and the male. These are the real perps, not us.
Wrong. It lies with those in power who are busy destroying the world in the name of 'more power.'
And it lies directly in the hands of those who orchestrated 9/11 - we know from all the evidence now that people in our own government must have been involved because no one else can STAND DOWN the US military.
Can you? No? Then your culpability in 9/11 is secondary, if anything. Each one of us can do the best we can, but we can't bat against the Bill Gates's and the Donald Trumps . . . the white and the powerful and the male. These are the real perps, not us.
The responsibilty for 3000 plus 911 murders lies with the Islamist fanatics who flew the planes into the WTC. Churchill is a dope and whether he is or isn't 1/8 th Native American is irrelevant. Leftists should demand that Churchill apologize to the families of 911 victims for his incredibly cruel remarks calling their loved ones "little Eichmanns".
Has anybody noticed that if the victims were really "little Eichmanns" how come Churchill hasn't given any specific names of who exaclty deserved to be killed?
Has anybody noticed that if the victims were really "little Eichmanns" how come Churchill hasn't given any specific names of who exaclty deserved to be killed?
Led by the pigs, the Animals on Mr Jones's farm revolt against their human masters. After their victory they decide to run the farm themselves on egalitarian principles. Inspired by the example of Boxer, the hard-working horse, the cooperation prosper. The pigs become corrupted by power and a new tyranny is established under Napoleon (Stalin). 'All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.' Snowball (Trotsky), an idealist, is driven out. The final betrayal is made when the pigs engineer a rapproachement with Mr Jones. The book was originally rejected for publication by T.S. Eliot in 1944, but has gained since its appearance in 1945 a status of a classic. - Film adaptation from 1955 was a faithful rendition of Orwell's original work, but watered in the end the satire, and presented a socialist viewpoint: the system is good, but the individuals are corruptible.
What is all your fancy rich people's talk about meaningless words like URL User Related Link, and HTML Hyper Text Markup Language? I don't know what you're talking about. I agree with the unknown hidden mysterious He SHe, or It, what called their self Socialist. Ward CHurchill to help Mosquito or Wasp Bee Hornet Yellow Jacket Neydiv American Ancient Anawakians in Nicaragua, Lice or Tick or Mite or Centipede or Lobster Native Hindu Americans from some unknown place called Amerindia, American India, West India, or Mosquito Nicker Aqwa Neydiv Hindu America, from the land of the Pink Skin Natives of Yrrrrrapyyyyanz Wild Primitives who got invaded by Moorish Imperialist Bastrdz, Trrrrkish Osmanli Imperialist Bastrdz, Attila the Tuirk Tywrk, Imperialist, and the poor picked on European native Hindu-European savages wif pink skyind, gat mest wif baaee va peepll wat's kaold Maongwwss, Mongoose, Mongolian Mongo's Mongolian Bar and Grill, Mongoloid Idiot, Ha Ha Ha Ha---------Get a Mongol with three thumz, and No Face! Whew! Papoon, Bassoon, Bapoon, Baboon, Raccoon, Papoose, for Precedent, EL Presidente Pizastro, Resident, Baboon Papoose for Prezadant, Not Insane, AUtoCHthones Aborigines from Pink skin (colorless white, like pink strawberry iced creme) and oreenj hair (colorless white, like orange carrots, oranges, pumped kyinz, jack o'lanterns, and blue eye rings (colorless white, like blueberries), end va peepL wat gats Oreendj skyind en gats BLaek Heyrz, hw haez BLaek Swoortf Swoordvy aayz ringz, if dvey dva wanz wat gats oreendj skyin end bLaek heyrz, haez a NaayaL Rivr EkwatooryaL AEfrikan feyss reyss, dven dvey sey, Ow, dvaet PRRSSNN iz a BLaek OOreendj skyind PRRSSNN. NaeuL, AAee em naot djowking, wen AAee sey , dvaed in Seytnn Krwwz, KaeLafoornikeyt, id iz, en aoLwyyz haez bin, a handrad prrssend iLeegL frr a men ta dww seks aed aoL eevan wants in hiz hoL 55 yeer Laayf. AAee now yww aoLL tfeingk evrytfeing iz a big fakan djowk. WeL, dva biggast djowk iz , yw doLn't now dva haef av it. Yep, TShrrthsiL iz kreyzy Laayk dva sheymfL kaawwrd Nowam Tshaompsky, hw AAee ywwsta Laayk a Laot, en AAee now dvaet dva LibraL Kaomyanast Pingkow Faegat Lez Hoorz av AgLy entaay-seks seytnn Laayk dva AgLy bitsh Djown Baez mey shee raot in HeL with aoLL hrr daskasting Daaayks, en AAee'm reeLee gLaed dvaet dva Faet AgLy AELbaaynow AOrktik Faet Lezbow Bitsh Daneess Dentnn dan ap en kyiLd hrrrz haaeend end ta detf, baaee ghyidnn hrrr LidL AAykman seks A Baom A Neyshnn aess kyiLd ta detf own dva peyvmant, end AAee em GLaed, en id iz a wandrfL tfeng dvaet dvee IzreYLy faet agLy stwwpad faegat Sy AAy Ey faegat Kris Braozda Raotnn FLesh EEding SLaob (bat a bit vedjateyryan) dan ap en kyiLd hiz seLf tw detf, baaee djamping Laayk Daneess Dentnn did. DVa RaokafeLKrz aor kyiLing end mrrrdrrring peepL, aspeshLy dvey kyiL noordik bLaond men end AEfrikan wiman hw aor naot kweeerz en daaeeks. DVey taorgat dva maongL men end dva MedaTrrrreynyan wiman wat aor naot fakan daaeeks. Fakan daaeek, ghyid aawwd a taeuLn. Eny PLLLyyyyss Bitsh oor Byrrrrakraep bitsh witsh hoor hw iz a daaeek, shood bee beet tw detf, dven naok am aaawwt, poot hend kafs aon am, end teyk dvem tw djeyaL . Poot dva PLLLeeesss in DjeyaL. Sy AAy Ey did dvey kyiL dva Metf aediks Djery Smaord AEss Rwwban en AEby Smaord AEss Howpman, en waaee iz Djefry Braayan Roatf (Ya6qgwb) a sheyp shiftrr fram BeLrman KaetfLLik Haay SkooL, beekaz hee iz a Djwwish KaerfLik? HaeuL kam Senda Krwwz KaeLafoornya, Seytnn Krwwz Krwwwd Kraddy TFagz heyt aoLL Laong Heyrd men, en heyt aoLL men hw ken't grow a beerd, en dvey heyd aoLL men hw nevr did seks, en meyk ap Laaeez abaawwd ass, waaaeee daz Senda Krwwz heyt Laong Heyrd men, waaee haez Senda Krwwwz AOLWEEZ haed ekstreem faeshast Sy AAy Ey heytrad aghyenst Laong Heyrd men, did Greg Mrrreynow av Kresgy in 1,973 Sept aet YwSyEssSy aoktet, did hee poot pooyzn in maaaee fwwd? Sints hee aektad Laayk satsh a soorssrrr-rrr shaaeen aaeez see aaee ey. Iz Ritshrrrd Peedrrssnn a kweer see aaee ey eydjant's bradvrr? Hee iz sam big faet massLLmen witf a big eyp djao end a big beerd. Laayk sam raf taf gaaee, end yet hee iz a ghey kweer. HaeuL kam AAee wandad ta dw seks witf a wooman oor grraL maaee own eydj sints dva sikskteez, en Senda Krwwz, witsh haez aoLweez bin natfing bat faet ritsh sLaob agLy Low AAee Kyww shoort heyr rednek predjadast bigat stwwpad aess hoL Praodastant TreyLrr Paork haefbreed Tsheraky Seytenik Skam FLadad toorneydow Milatrrristik Gaeingstrrr hiLbiLy heyseed kantry djeyk KKK traesh agLy stwwpad faorts, en eevLL terrrr-rrrast RasTafari Nigrz end eeevvLLL terrr-rrrast faeshast kreepy Vie^.t Nam vedranz hw aor aoLweez bLaokking mee fram seeing seksy wiman, end dven bLeyming id aon mee!! Priddy fakan weerd, end sam gaaee wat Laaeekt Seytnn Woorshiprr Raony Djeymz Deeow, en dven hee kanvrrts tw Low AAee Kyww Kaaeek, end dven hee sendz hiz annown masteeryass kristshnn BaaaybL Baeingr HoLy RoLr Kraaeestrrr SHaaystrrr HitLrr Mastaesh Faegat, hw kept hiz skweeLy maeuLtft staf in dva GHey Baor, krrrapt seytenik Yanaaeedad Sneyks av Amaofya, dvaet eevan gowz sow faor aez tw aekshwaLy aLaeuL dem daskasting kweerz en daaeeks, hw aor BEA, dvaet meenz AGLY, BEA, dvaet meenz agLy, kaz aoLL spiks aor sow Low AAee Kyww end AGLY, kaz Nigrz aor Eyps en aor Low AAee Kyww en AGLY, eksept frr meyby Ayeesha dva Seks beyb, en Makkeda, end naaees LidL WiLhemeena PReeAL, bat Makkeda, aoLdvow very aweyk, witsh aperantLy nowan eLss, haonky gringow hwetow oor advrwaayz, iz, bat dva trabL iz, Makkeda haez naod eny sheyp tw hrr boady, Senda Krwwz "wiman" aor eksept frr NeydLy en Eymy, sow agLy, maaee LidL doag kood NEVR bee dvaed agLy, naot anLess ya sheyvd hiz aess end meyd him waok baess aekwrrrdz. NeeaL Daaeymand ywwsta sey, beefoor hee braegd abaawwt haeuL wandrfL BAORBITSHRAT LIKR KraekLan Rowzy SHIT iz, hee haed a saong wat waz kaoLd HaaLey HoLey, end ifn ya sey id aez Baess AEKwrrrrdz, it haez an ELowhistik DJeehaosssafaet DJahowva Messidj in it . id iz dva messidj "ELoHHH ELaaaHHHH". HaeuL kam Sendy Cruise heyts THC hemp canvas herb av the Hon Geo Woorshingmasheen Esq &c, end doLn't sh ya gow pootnn fiLtfy ekstree simbLz en signLz in maaee kaotnn pikan tshikan pLakan speyss heer, ya kaedrrWaoLing pangk fram a vinagrr strwwyaord? George WoorshingMasheen, ya now hee'z aawwr ownLy AAH sey, san, AAH sey, (ya wana ghyit KYILT ta detf, doLn't sh ya? Yw wiL !!) (Wee gown RAAYAT, en FAK dva PIG. AOLL ritsh peepL. naot dva PLLyyss. AAee tfeingk dva POWLeess iz wan a dva inasant wanz, LeestWaayz samtaaymz dvey shrr seem ta bey, aon akaeuLnd av dva reeeaL eevL bee kaman fran sam advrr fakan weeerdow PLeysss, oor samptfin. SHID, AAy doLn't nowat in dvee HEYAL bee gwaaeen own, bLad. KLoorafIL saep. AAH sey, Iz yow ez? ow ez yow eyn't? Wat sh yaoL bey dwaaeen, Meyan? iz a Big OL, LIDL OL, wad it waz . Hey Beyba, wad id iz. (Wat dva FAK daz dvaet meyn? HoL:y SHip! En naeuL AAee'm gwaaeen da teL yaeuL wad id iz , Beyba. HADLEH KRRRSHNRA HADLEH KRRRSHNRA KRRRSHNRA KRRRSHNRA HADLEH HADLEH HADLEH DLAAAMA HADLEH DLAAAMA DLAAAAMA DLAAMA HADLEH HADLEH . KYAETANZYA iz dva seLf seym wan in dva seym aez dvaet LidL oL big oL tfaeyn, witsh iz nan advrrr dven TYAETANZYA. BOODZDVA ? BEDR WATSH AAWWT. ILAH= ELoH =ELAAH = krrrshnra = Deus Devs Dev Divine Deity = THesit TFeaos TFeos. Owkey. En ifnnn yeew doLn't Laaeek it, yw now wat sh yww ken dww witf it. iz aoLL. Washingtan waz aaoor fooyst Prez, aawwr frrst Rezadant Pressadant? THC hemp iz dvee ownLy trww hemp. AAee em naeuL enGheydjd in a HEYT kempeyn end a Booykaot aghyinst "IndastryaL Hemp" aess hoLz en faeshast pigz, hw wee shood kyiL. Wee shood kyIL dva PLLLesssmnn en MediKL daoktrr kwaek saobownz shringk ey em ey maeLpraektass Hypocritical oath MD riths greekowRowman Jew daoktrrz aor dva Spenish Catholic Police Inquizishnn, hee'z a Spoortsman, hww shwwts kaets en doagz ta detf kaz id iz NEAP, kaz AOLavrr Noortf Raobrrt Noorss tfaod it waz NEAP, kaz AAee tfaod it waz NEAP, neap tide, nide, crescent nide, nescent cride, OweL enyweyz, ya gats ta kyiL dva Daoktrr oor dva PLLLyyysmman, anLess hee ken prwwv hee iz inasant , bat hee (shee, oor it) iz ta bee kansidrrd GHiLty antiL prwwvnn inasant, kaz dvaet's dva wey wy dw tfeingz araeuLnd heer, if yww doLn't Laaeek it, MWWWWWV, kaz AAH seyd Now!! KyiL dva PLLLeessmnn, KyiL dva MediKL doaktrrr Kwaek SaoBownz SHringk, beefooor hee kyiLz as. Wy shood kyiL aoLL Nw Yook Steyt Kaaeek Daaeek Faegat Mik AAyrish Pigz end Waops en DaspikabL mowhaoks LaaYK kYAANDAlASS SHE ANDRSTENDZ WAT SHEE SEEZ, SHEE DAZN'T ANDRSTEND DJAEK SHIT!! thc HEMP IS HELTFY, DAM MOWHAOK BITSH !! GOW DA BLEYZYAZ. NAOD ENY SASKWENW STAROBERY FEEALDZ FR YW, MIZ SASKWAHENA !! nww YOOK MAOFYA EY DEE EL STEYT HAAEEMEE STEYT, MIK PAEDY KAOPR HED RAAYATS AV 1,863, POLOKS EN KRAAAWTS, RaokafeLr Nww Yook hw poot sh ya Laaeef imPrizmm Laaeek in Big Faet Faegat Trrrkyyy OddMan Ozman Oz Bozz Effendi TRRRKyyy djrrrkeez hww SnaepLing TrdL Trrdz, trrrks, dan ap en poot sh ya in djeyaL frr Laayf imPrizmm, djast Laaaek FLeymin Faegats, send nigrz maongoLyanz greek freeek aaytaeLyanz roomee empaaeer SPQR RUMI, TRRRK baestrdz, AttiLaz, fram ywwzn haesheesh noan naorkaodik rrrb saaykadeLik haesheesh hemp THC witsh vivadLy meyks reeeeaeLadyy moor reeeaL. ALLaH iz a Stwwpit. DVowz PLrrrraL ELoHYM aor a REETAORDit. DVowz PLRRRRaL TRinadee aor a ReeTaordit. Spaez. Laayk a Dam SHip. Yw iz a Stwwpit. Taokan Baawwwt, AAeen Gwaaeeen ghyid own daeuLn, tww dva Biiiiiiig a Riva Booooot. Itta Looka Laaayka dva fakan Waop iz a Fakt ap teerr-rrast , enda shooda haeda aoda bin kyiLt ta detf. THa Sweedish Terrrorist nice guy, Peter Helsinki Stockholm Klevius, showz haeuL Vaaykingz end Suomi Estownyanz end Laeps Saameh aor aoLL kaomyanast LibraL pingkow faegats. Waz Lyenyin end Trotshkyiy a faegat? AOr aoLL Kaaeeks en Spiks en Erabz faegats en daaeeks? THC hemp iz moor sowbr dven Daoktrr Pepr. AAeen gwaaeeen shwwt maaee seLf ta detf, dvaed iz wad AAee'n gwaaeeen deew, kaz a aoLL yeew swwdow indLLekshwaL aayvrrry taawwrr tfinskyind pywwsssLLenamass pipskweeks. AAH sey, Yww aor dva Frrrst kaznn tw a Preevrrrt. AEAEAEAEAE, wat's a Maada wit sh ya? Dw ya eet Semidjaz? SaeuLndz sikaning. Djast Laaeek yrr AGLY shoort heyrd oor kaozmedik Low AAy Kyww feyss. SHoort Heyrd Kaaeek Waop Erab booyz aor BAtt HoL faegats. AELBAAYNOW SWEEDISH AAYRISH LYENYINGRAD BITSHAZ FRAM LITFWEYNYA SHOOD AOLL BEE REYPT END SHAOT. ASPESHLY YOWGA FAESHAST BITSHAZ. KYIL DVEM. KYIL DVEM AOLL. LET DVA TFREE AAEED TOWD SOORT DVEM AAWWT. LET STEEVN SEGAAL SOORT DVEM AAWWT . HE KIKS FEYSS! HEE KIKS TSHEST. Ya nowdass haeuL evrywan aon teevee en Passifik MaoL daeuLntaeuLn Senda Krwwz EN SEYTENIK YWEFOW FREEK SHOW MAEGAZEENZ AV WEERD SKYINY STAORVING BITSHAZ KAOLD "VENADEE FEYR" AGLY HOORABL BITSH PRVRTS, END LAAYKWAAYZ IN FAEGAT FAESHNN MAEGAZEEN "VOWG" AGLY SHIT!! DVey aoLweez sez ----- AAH meyn, Passifik Spassifik MaoLL in senda krwwz, en own dva BWB TWB tee VEE, ya nowad AAee'n seyan, dvey aoLweez bey seyan dvaet BLaond YeLa heyr iz a feemeyaL keyraktrrrrristik, kaz dvey eee a bantshaq saaykowz krkeyzd own dowp, Laayk wen ya teykan da Dowp, meenz, ya teykan da AEsprrran aet dva seLf seym taaeem aez yaeouL bey teykan kowka koLa ooor pepsy koLa, dvey kaoL it, ya teykan da dowp, Laaeek indjekting beer piLz, indjekting merawaona piLz, indjekting kaofy piLz, indjekting DOWP penny sillan piLz, id iz witf a Hevy Hoort deaed aaee teL ya, dvaet sh yrrr aoLL skrwwd ap aown Dragz, Dowp, da teykan da Dowp, wen ya teyk da Kowka KoLa (eevan witfaawwt dva dem kowkeyn) Pepsy KoLa aet da seym taaeem aez AEsprranz, dven it meynz, dvey sey, tw ya, yw bee teykan da dowp, teykan da dowp, kowka koLa pepsy koLa aesprrran dowp, en dvey aoLwez sey BLww aaeeez iz a feemeyaL kwaoLadyy, en dvey sey pingk skyin iz feemeyaL, en ya gada bee sam fakan bak nigr oor Low Laaeef stwpad spik oor Low Laayf Waop oor Low Laayf Kaaeek ta bee a meyan. OOR sam shoort heyr ritsh san av a bitsh, en aoLL shoort heyrz aor aLaaeek, dvey aor aoLL Low AAee Kyww. Faet Big Beerdz aor aoL stown howmowsekshwaLz en Kaaeeks end Waops end Srrrrbz end Erabz end Trrrkz aor TshaayaLd MLLestrtrrz, end shood bee Laokt ap frr beeing drrrdy fakan AAAeeereynyan skam. (Nwwk dva semdn Nigrz. Yww tfeingk aaee'm kyidnn, doLn't sh yww? Meyby AAee em. Bat dven aghyen, ya bedr waotsh aawwt . YWHW ILAH Krrshnra, dvee ownLy prsn egzisting, pLeez seyv mee, dvis paord av yww kaoLd mee, fram dveir eevLL KLatshaz !! Daestrrrdz !!! AAyaL ghyit sh yww frrr dvis!!! AAyaL raaeet maaee KaongGrassMnnz. Wimnnnz. DVey gats tww av dvem . Wimnnz. ) En dvey aoLweez sey, dvaet Negus NaayaL Rivrr Nigrz end Waops end Kaaaaeeeeks end Erabz aor aoLL maeskyalan meyaL MEN. Bat YWESSEY aoLweez heyts BLaond YeLow heyrd men ! DVey praobLy mrdrd dva tw yeLa heyrd MaongGLz Djaon Denvr end Rivr Fyniks. YWESSEY Laayks OwnLy men hww aor Bak Nigrz end Wops en Spiks en Hindw neykad faegats fram HywwLat Paekrrrd Hindw MaozLam Ritsh MahaRaja aess hoLz en neykad Kaaeek Waop faegats aon baaeeks. Seks prrrvrrrts en dva seytenik enthany haopkinz taaeep aeLbaaynow MaongGL men aet dva Ma Nee Maorkat. Deyvad AAeek iz raayt. Evrywan iz aperantLy inasant, bat dvey aor aoLmowst aoL kLLLaebrrrreyding witf dva Seytenik YwEssEy maaeend kantroL sistam. Senda Krwwz haez aoLweez bin a faeshast pig maofya rednek hwwdLam taeuLn. Senda Krwwz haez aoLweez heydad AEfrikan Wiman end AAeetaeLyan Wiman en djwwish wiman wat aor naot fakan Dem Daaeeeks. YwEssEy iz beeing dastrooyd baaee MeyLeyz, Hindwwz, inkLwding hidyass hoorabL FiLapeenow Gwwks av Seytnn, kyiL a MeyLey Djava FiLapeenz Nww Yok OPEC Nigger Nigerian Drdy Erab EEdjipshnn pig madvr fakr bitsh "paeLastaaeen" daog shit frr Kraaeest. FAK YW AESS HOL. AAEEM DVA TRRRMANEYDRR. AAEE L BEE BAEK . RABR BEYBY BAGHY BAMPRZ . (bet sh ya dvey nevr sey DVAET in dva mwwvyyz. AspeshLy wen Entfany Kwin iz traokan ta dvaet wan aaeed eyt baoL POOL BiLyrrdz sfeer aaee hw sez ta Entfany Oaxaca Kwin, hee sez, " Yw aoLweez dw evrytfeing 360 dagreez dvee aopazat av wat evrywan eLss daz" , en Entfany Oaxaca Kwin dan ap en seyaz, hee sez, tw him, " No yww idyat, 360 dagreez iz aoLL dva wey araeuLnd end id iz dva seym id aoLredy iz, yww meen 180 dagreez iz dvee aopazat." ) KyIL a Drrdy Spik end a Drrdy haongky Gringow Wettow frr Mowhaomad. KyiL aoLL hywwmnnz . AAee waz heydad baaee evrywan aoLL maaee Laaeef, fram dva dey AAee waz boorn tiL naeuL . Yogaz end Hindwwz end Hairy Kirschners ar skam. DVey shood bee shaot. End DETF tw dva hywwwman speesheez. AV IDYAT LOW AAEE KYWWW FAORTS. GOW da hek. TA HEK wit sh yww. Ta HEK wit ya, end mey yw bee DAORND ta HEK. AAAee bet aoLL dva PeePL wat raaeet sh yww aor aoLL feyk foordjd see aaee ey Ledrz wat doLn't eevn egzist aed aoLL, MadvrFakr. Bitsh. Saaynd, ---- John Smith Normal, 123 Main Street, Anytown, USA, 01234 . hezekelkarl [at] comcast.net hezekelkarl [at] yahoo.com & DEM ! Wat agLy prvrdad daskasting yyyymeyaL aay bin ghyitnn. TipikL agLY seytenik YwEssEy. Id aoLweez iz satsh an yyvLL agLy yvvL 666 kantry, mey id raod in HEK. Ya aor daornd ta HEK .
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