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March 19th Anarchist March Against War
by Anarchist Action (anarchistaction [at] riseup.net)
Thursday Mar 10th, 2005 7:52 PM
Anarchist March and Contingent on March 19th A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition Demonstration on 2nd Anniversary of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq.
WHAT
Demonstration on Global Day of Protest on the Two-Year Anniversary of the Iraq war.

WHEN
11 AM March 19th, 2005.

WHERE
Corner of 18th and Dolores St.
Mission Dolores Park
San Francisco

WHO
Anarchist Action
(We are a grouping of several Anarchist collectives, affinity groups and individuals through out the San Francisco bay area. We have come together to organize our own forms of resistance based around anarchist principles. We are a public formation open to other like-minded individuals and groups.)

FINAL ORGANIZING MEETING WILL BE ON SUNDAY MARCH 13TH AT 1PM AT NEW COLLEGE (777 VALENCIA) IN SAN FRANCISCO.



ANARCHIST ACTION AGAINST WAR & EMPIRE

On March 19th and 20th 2005, people across the world will march to commemorate the invasion of Iraq two years ago, and to oppose the ongoing occupations of Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan and Haiti. As the United States government is preparing to even further escalate its empire building in Iran, Syria, and North Korea we must further organize our resistance and move beyond peace rallies and purely symbolic actions.

The war and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, like all wars between nations, has proven to dispel the initial war propaganda about disarmament or human rights. It is about control over resources. It is about making profits for those who own and control society, expanding their business and military empires. It is also about distracting poor and working people in the U.S. away from discontent with our lives under twenty-first century American capitalism. It is about increasing blind patriotism and nationalism. It is an attempt to get us to identify with our rulers and exploiters, in the face of a foreign enemy. It is about further destroying our educational system and cutting funding for hospitals and the very few social services left for the poor, elderly, and young.

We will not be confused or distracted. We are clearly opposed to this war, and all wars between nations, whether sanctioned by the U.N or not. But our alternative is not pointless grumbling, an abstract plea for “peace” or an attempt to convince our rulers that war is not in their interest. War between nations is never in OUR interests. In a society largely stuck in a debate between capitalist war and capitalist peace, we hope to show that another kind of peace is possible, a peace without poverty, without exploitation, without governors, bosses and managers. But to achieve that kind of peace, another kind of war is necessary, a war that sees not only Bush, Blair, Bin Laden, or Saddam as our enemies; but all bosses, bureaucrats, politicians, police, landlords and capitalists. Continual and perpetual war is a feature and component of the capitalist system. No anti-war movement will succeed without a clear anti-capitalist and anti-authoritarian agenda.

We see our mobilization on March 19th as part of the process of broadening and expanding not just an Anarchist movement, but also as an attempt at breaking the stagnation and retarding effect of pointless rallies and endless speeches of the mainstream anti-war movement. We are also trying to move beyond predictable, symbolic, and easily controllable breakaway marches, which have in of themselves become part of the spectacle of the anti-war movement in the U.S.

In Solidarity,
Anarchist Action

For more information/endorsements/questions:
anarchistaction [at] riseup.net

Comments  (Hide Comments)

by tkat
Friday Mar 11th, 2005 12:59 PM
I wanted to say that i really like your posters and it is great to see people getting organized and being visible.
keep it up....
by SF Protestwarrior
Tuesday Mar 15th, 2005 11:51 AM
The Anarchists are going to get pepper sprayed and stun gunned if they attack us again.

Please attack.
by Dee Allen.
Tuesday Mar 15th, 2005 1:38 PM
Nessie, I came up with that chant 2 years ago at some anti-war demo where scores of folks marched from Dolores Park to S.F. Civic Centre; the demo occurred when a massive Governor's/recall election took place. And I agree with you. It should be on a big banner.
by deanosor
(deanosor [at] comcast.net) Tuesday Mar 15th, 2005 2:09 PM
The protest warriors won't attack those who attack them. These cry'babies' will run away whining to the cops like they always do.
by just a suggestion
Tuesday Mar 15th, 2005 5:22 PM
Trail them back to their cars, take down their license plate numbers and publish them here.
by ignorant
Wednesday Mar 16th, 2005 10:35 AM
what is a protest warrior?
by ?
Wednesday Mar 16th, 2005 11:17 AM
Protests warriors are a right-wing group that shows up at protest and makes fun of protesters. Their politics is mainly defined in terms of what they oppose insteed of what they support; they oppose protests but if you talk to them they are a mixture of Christian conservatives, economic conservatives and right-libertarians. There is a very partisan aspect to their protests that is similar to Rush and OReilly (Fox) more than those conservative groups (neocons, blind nationalists, principled libertarians...) that are right wing on ideological grounds (their signs suggest they opposed Kosovo and supported Iraq with no explanation for why they support wars blindly only when they are started by Republicans).

They get a fairly young crowd since their main goal is ridicule not dialogue and their goal seems mainly limited to a few silly photos they can show on their site after a protest making fun of individual protesters. On the whole they are harmless and even when they get mainstream media coverage they are more likely to anger progressives into organizing than promote whatveer agenda they support (probably because they dont have an agenda and their main point is not liking protests in a way that reminds one of a Communist party loyalist denouncing Tiananmen dissidents for beinh unpatriotic for protesting against their beloved ruler)
by cp
Wednesday Mar 16th, 2005 11:22 AM
The protest Warriors , I believe, originated from the Free Republic keyboarding corps. Basically, they had the creative idea of actually going outside to protests organized by liberals, and they have a website that requires registration for reading their forums. It is fairly unique for conservatives to do street protests except for with a few traditional conservative issues such as abortion, because they have an institutional advantage.
Typically, they aren't that exciting, and just represent some additional color like other marginal groups that show up such as the LaRouche supporters, communists, the people with the signs saying that 9-11 was a centrally planned coverup. . Occasionally they can be loud and surly, but I think if one of them actually used pepper spray, the cops could turn on them because they aren't happy with people making their life difficult or causing stampedes (warning, if pepper spray doesn't hit someone straight in the eyes, the person being attacked can easily hit back, and often can even if they are sprayed in the face. stun guns can be taken away by a crowd being attacked). What I always see is people using their acting skills to pretend to be part of their group.
by nowar
Wednesday Mar 16th, 2005 7:32 PM
i was just wondering why does the anrchist group not like A.N.S.W.E.R.?
by freepers
Wednesday Mar 16th, 2005 7:52 PM
Here's what you can do to show your support of the U.S. and our fine troops in Iraq and elsewhere.

Write letters to the editors of your local papers, starting about a week before the protest, pointing out that for over a year ANSWER's website included the statement that "the anti-war movement here and around the world must give its unconditional support to the Iraqi anti-colonial resistance." They are not anti-war. ANSWER's leaders are Communists disguised as peace protestors.

Find out where their protests are in your area. Get permits (if necessary in your area) to counter-protest their protest. Peaceably assemble adjacent to, but not in, the ANSWER permitted area and hold pro-troop pro-U.S. signs and American flags. Send out press relases via fax and email before your counter-protest, stressing support for the troops and ANSWER's support support for our enemies for the people in Iraq who bomb our troops, kill Iraqi civilians, and behead our civilians. Include the above quote from ANSWER that I mentioned above.

Don't just scream at your TV when the cANSWER (communist ANSWER) scum are on, do something. You're be glad that you did and the republic that you save could be your own.
1 posted on 01/21/2005 11:23:47 AM PST by BillF
Pinging those who posted to my ANSWER thread about Becker's online interview and those who posted to doctor raoul's thread about ANSWER from yesterday.

4 posted on 01/21/2005 12:48:53 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: day10

What sound bite was that?
Time for Protestwarrior to get back to work.

6 posted on 01/21/2005 12:57:17 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: BillF
The best way to deal with these people is to be nonviolent and relentless and well prepared. Use a Hannity type style
and go on offense.
Be prepared to discus the following subjects that will come up.
1 Israel 2 Neo Cons 3 Central America in the Cold War era
4 Corporate Media 5 Capitalism.
7 posted on 01/21/2005 1:00:35 PM PST by Marano NYC
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To: Marano NYC

The best action is two fold...A Freeper counterprotest and a Protestwarrior inflitration of the protest at the same time.

8 posted on 01/21/2005 1:02:54 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; abner; ALOHA RONNIE; Jon Alvarez; bgcountry187; Bob J; ...

Pinging some out-of-DC activists.

ANSWER coming to Washington DC, San Francisco, Los Angeles and other cities.

9 posted on 01/21/2005 1:03:14 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: BillF

Chicago too!

10 posted on 01/21/2005 1:03:51 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: day10

I heard that yesterday. It was VERY, VERY good. That guy was a moroon.

11 posted on 01/21/2005 1:08:55 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: Thunder90

Is the Protest Warrior who was kicked by the anarchists in DC yesterday OK? I heard about that from a PW who saw it.

One of the leftists waiting at the security checkpoint on 7th St, north of Pennslyvania Avenue in DC yesterday actually said to me: "Why did you come to annoy us today" and he was serious, as if he and his leftist friends truly believe that the world revolves around them.

I said: "Get real. We won. You lost. We're here to celebrate and watch a parade. You are the skunk at the parade."Sean Hannity is saying that he will show some of the protestors antics tonight on the Hannity & Colmes.

13 posted on 01/21/2005 1:12:16 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: Thunder90
Protest Warriors are good in numerous situations. The best result is that at speak-ins their courage guilts maranos like myself into the fray.
The problem during the RNC convention was that the protest
warriors were not local. This led to a series of problems and they were not well prepared. The local Republicans were far more upsetting to the protesters. Some claimed I was from Boston. However, my thick Sopranos style accent made that ridiculous. Some radicals claimed to have never met a local Conservative.
disagree...I was with PW for two of their biggest days of protests- sunday/thursday. I was in charge of group #1- they/we were well prepared and coordinated from the get go. no problems at all and plenty of signs for everyone.

21 posted on 01/21/2005 3:26:04 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: BillF

there how many, what- 38 protestors?? Some idiot on a football board was saying he was going to DC to join in the "massive" protests taking place....F-'em!

22 posted on 01/21/2005 3:27:28 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America
I was in Union Square Park Twice when small but brave Protest Warriors entered perhaps the most hostile acre in America. The Protest Warriors were clearly not prepared to respond to a high volume mob tactic.
I ran into a delegate from nearby and the about two handfuls of local Conservatives came out of hiding. The protesters could not tell us go home , we were home.
NYC is a rough area and one needs to be well prepared.
ANSWER, at least so far, hasn't been involved in any of the protests down in my neck of the woods (Dallas/Ft Worth, TX). I suspect the local peace coalitions include too many Jews, and too many in general who support the Palestinian peace process. Of course the "peace" group ANSWER won't let anybody who supports the peace process speak at their rallies. You have to support a one state solution (elimination of Israel) and you have to support the palestinians "right of resistance to occupation" (pro-war/intifada).

It's stunning that the mainstream media (even Fox) lets a pro-war, anti-peace group like ANSWER get away with passing itself off as anti-war.
understand the e-mail now...while I like Protest Warrior and have run several operations with them I am not impressed with their ability to debate.

Still; having conservatives in the streets of a liberal city showing how foolish the left/libs actually are drives them to the brink- they don't expect it, can't handle it and don't know how to deal with it.
Protest warriors should make an effort to be better prepared after the parade is over.
The radicals can be engaged and beaten back with proper preparation. They are never placed on defense use that to your advantage.
NYC has the meanest nastiest radicals in the country. These people should only be dealt with by trained volunteers .
29 posted on 01/21/2005 5:57:47 PM PST by Marano NYC
To: BillF

Thanks for the heads up.

30 posted on 01/21/2005 7:40:27 PM PST by Coleus (I support ethical, effective and safe stem cell research and use: adult, umbilical cord, bone marrow) There were thousands, at least hundreds of which were anarchists spoiling for a fight. I have photos that I will try to post in the next few days.

Relative to your comments about PW debate skills, I didn't debate the leftists for the most part yesterday. I've debated them on occasion, but I'm not sure that debating them (whether by PW or others) is the proper response.

What I did yesterday was laugh at them. I'll describe in greater detail when and if I post my photos of the inauguration day.

I told one leftist waiting in the security line near me yesterday to "swim to Cuba, free healthcare, free education," much to the amusement of most nearby people. (Some of the other, regular parade-watchers non-political people started insulting some of the leftists. I heard one later say "go to Cuba" to another leftist.)

In response he said "why did you come to annoy us today" and he was serious, as if he and his leftist friends truly believe that the world revolves around them.

I said: "Get real. We won. You lost. We're here to celebrate and watch a parade. You are the skunk at the parade."
by .
Wednesday Mar 16th, 2005 7:59 PM
I am willing to plan a FR counter-protest for Saturday the 19th. The main thing I want to do is publically replay Colin Powell's U.N. presentation on Iraq from a 24 inch TV and loud speakers from my car. Any other demonstration ideas are welcome. Please write me at FR, or contact me from my web site http://www.conservativeimage.com to notify me that you would like to participate. If I don't get enough response, I'll forget it and let the country be taken over by marxist hippys. If you would like me to make a WMV or MPG movie of Colin Powell's address to the U.N. available on my site, write me.Is that near you? Bob Newman is a former Marine who was off Iran with me back in 1980. He has a show that he does in the afternoon

http://www.850koa.com/shows/newman.html
Pardon my thinking out loud, but is that really relevant? Wouldn't it be better to do something emphasizing that, in opposing prosecution of the present war, the "anti-war" protesters are abetting a brutal and illegal insurgency?

IOW by playing the Powell footage you'll be making it about the first war, the (as the left would have it) "illegal" and "preemptive" "invasion" of a "soveriegn" state, etc. The left's case is weak enough there, but it's weaker still wrt the present war, where the illegality and aggression is on the side of the insurgents, attacking a government -- the Iraqi Interim Government -- recognized as sovereign and legitimate by the U.N., the Arab league and hundreds of other nations.

Don't make it about what happened two years ago. Make it about the left supporting mass murders, suicide bombers and decapitators right now.
7 posted on 02/20/2005 11:19:51 PM PST by Stultis
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To: RaceBannon
Ya, I listen to Gunny Bob! I needed something to substitute Michael Savage. Michael Savage is a party pooper. I feel safer with Gunny Bob.
Give out or at least publicize rules for protesting such as DC Chapter's rules for protesting, especially if you have a few who might be overly zealous:

No violence, no threats, no profanity, no racism, no law-breaking.

Law enforcement officers must be treated with respect.

Stay out of the street at all times, except when using a crosswalk with the traffic light.

Do not block the sidewalk to pedestrian traffic. Keep your signs from hanging over into the street.

Do not block the signs of, nor get within 10 feet of, our opponents. Do not interfere with any media coverage of them. Our First Amendment rights are their rights, too.

Any arguments should be at 10 feet away to avoid conflict arising from passions on both sides. If you choose to get close to them physically, do so in friendship as fellow Americans only.

Do not give the middle finger, call people jerks, tell them to go home or get a job.

Take the high road. Be civil, but resolute, when you are cursed at or given the middle finger; point out the rudeness of the leftists by chanting, "Mean spirited arrogant condescending liberal."

Bring lots of American flags.

Have fun.

WHY: What good does a rally or counter-protest do?

Gets out a message to our troops that we support them.

Allows you to peacefully express your point of view. Much better than kicking in your TV when the leftists come on.

Upsets the leftists and demoralizes some of them. Prevents them from getting a free ride in the media.
I'm fitting my '69 VW Bus with a loudspeaker PA system. I will definitely test it before I go down town. The Bus has a moon roof which slides open, and 4 maybe 5 people can stand up through it and wave signs. I'd like to meet in a parking lot down town around 12:30pm then motorcade past the capitol building where the lefties will be gathered at 1pm with "Stars and Stripes" blaring from the speakers on top of my car. Then we can pull into a different spot and make speeches from the top of my bus with the PA system. Do I have to contact the city or the police to let them know what I'm planning?
A D, does nutters mean the same as moonbats? I like both words.

I don't know about the showing boobs thing, except to use it to get attention. They also seem to like to get nekkid and have pictures taken spelling out peace and such.

You are certainly right that they're not worth looking at! I sure hope none of the original sixties antiwar babes will be showing their breasts. Might cause a stampede of people trying to egress the area. Nearly forty years of gravity acting on the bra-less ones will have taken quite a toll I imagine. (BTW, I'm about the same age, plus or minus 5 years or so.)The barking moonbat leftists are trying to be naughty enough so we notice them.

They would also wet the bed, but then they have to lie in it for a few moments until they get up.

The onset of a combination Alzheimer's syndrome and Tourette's syndrome leaves them shouting obscenities, but they cannot remember why they began shouting. Once they get into the moment, things just get a little out of control.
by freepers
Wednesday Mar 16th, 2005 8:04 PM
Man Allegedly Stopped Several Feet From Small Crowd CINCINNATI -- An antiwar rally was disrupted when a man drove his tractor-trailer rig toward about 40 protesters who were holding signs on the sidewalk of a freeway overpass, police said.

James Watters, 49, of Cincinnati, was charged with three counts of aggravated menacing, one count of inducing panic and one count of reckless operation of a vehicle, police said. He remained in the Hamilton County jail Monday night.
I do not condone his behavior in any way shape or form but will be interesting to compare his actions and the penalty compared to the anti war freaks who assualt our police officers and block traffic etc.
4 posted on 03/25/2003 7:55:26 AM PST by alisasny
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To: joesnuffy
LOCK UP ALL THE COMMIE RATS
How many of these antiwar protesters have dope on them when they arrested? Ill bet its a lot...
9 posted on 03/25/2003 7:56:01 AM PST by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: joesnuffy
(The truck) stopped about 10 feet from the nearest protester

So no one was hurt. *sigh* I understand this driver's frustration, but we have to refrain from assaulting these anti-U.S. morons, difficult though it may be.
doesn't sound these lovers of life bothered to help this guy
11 posted on 03/25/2003 7:57:09 AM PST by InvisibleChurch
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To: cyborg
People, remember the media lurks here. Don't give them any ammo.
15 posted on 03/25/2003 7:59:36 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: joesnuffy
The Trucker should ask for a trial by jury.

In California a few years ago, a young girl was mauled by a neighbor's "ego" dog. Her father waited at her bedside for two days and nights, then received word that his daughter would live, but would need a lot of surgery.

The father went out of the hospital, found the dog, and beat it with a baseball bat; it had to be destroyed. Charges were filed against him and a complaint was filed by the pets owner.
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ure. These screaming, irrational, stinky commie jerks do all they can to provoke a violent response. But we're all much too intelligent and self-disciplined to fall into their trap. (At least, I hope we are - they're not worth getting arrested over).
28 posted on 03/25/2003 8:06:27 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Koblenz
Send in the French, Germans and/or Russian...or the Iraqi Inspectors....Where's Hans Blix or Scott Ritter (@ an Buger King, Home of the Whoppers) when Ya need 'em
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To: joesnuffy
Selectman accused of using vehicle to bump war protester

By Associated Press, 3/25/2003 07:54

DAMARISCOTTA, Maine (AP) A Damariscotta selectman accused of bumping anti-war protesters with his vehicle was charged with reckless conduct with a dangerous weapon, authorities said.

The incident happened Sunday on the bridge between Damariscotta and Newcastle, where a group of demonstrators gathered.

Selectman Walter Hilton bumped into two of the protesters after a verbal confrontation, authorities said. No one was hurt.

Hilton, who acknowledged bumping the pair, said it was an accident and that the protesters deliberately got in his way.
ROTF!!! Never seen so many comments removed from a post before! Guess I'm not allowed to say what I think, but I bet a lot of us are thinking the same thing
35 posted on 03/25/2003 8:12:40 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: cardinal4
How many of these antiwar protesters have dope on them when they arrested? Ill bet its a lot...

There are a lot of pot smokers on our side of the debate too. So what's your point?
Good lord, I have never seen so many deleted comments in one thread!

I know what my thoughts are, and for obvious reasons I will not post them in a public forum.

But go ahead and delete it anyway. At least then, people can say, "Oooh! Houmatt's comments got deleted, too! I wonder what he said?"
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To: Geronimo
I watched something similar happen here during a protest. In the case here, however, while waiting to be arrested a protester moved in to the way of oncoming traffic (again) that was finally starting to move again after being stalled by protesters for at least a half hour. No charges were brought against the driver.
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To: mountaineer
I wouldn't get arrested for some unwashed protester. Although Richard Bey was gloating over the fact that there were 100,000 anti-war and a 1,000 pro war people in NYC last weekend. GRRRR! I didn't go because I had schoolwork. The peaceniks have too much time on their hands. They don't go to church, don't go to school, and probably have questionable family values to be able to attend all these rallies. At least I've not heard of any violence at any pro-war rallies.
I don't understand the reference to giving the media ammo. If we are critiquing their writing skills, maybe they could critique ours? Or, are you suggesting that gallows humor at this point would be untasteful?
Unfortunately, this guy will have the book thrown at him, while the miscreants in San Francisco may get off as part of a class action lawsuit. It was a stupid thing to do in what may have been a heat of the moment. But he as well as any other "mistakes" in the "heat of the moment" should face the consequences.
51 posted on 03/25/2003 8:22:44 AM PST by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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Free Republic is drawing attention from the big media, especially in light of the pro-Bush protests. The media may be lurking here and would love nothing better than to portray Free Republic as a site filled with crazy, ignorant, hate-mongers.
52 posted on 03/25/2003 8:23:40 AM PST by Paul Atreides
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