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Lee Kaplan, Dafka Exposed -- Updated Edition

by Will Wallace (posted here by mirror) (forfreewillwallace [at] yahoo.com)
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Since Lee Kaplan, Dafka Exposed was published on December 19, 2004, I have become aware of a factual error in the initial article. The original article states:

Though Kaplan didn't directly call for violence in the episodes, a little fact checking showed that groups he is associated with have been busy hijacking and illegally intruding on peaceful meetings, harassing peace activists and making at least one death threat.

- October 5, 2003. After participating in a debate at UC Berkeley on Middle East relations, activist Allison Weir received a death threat from an individual identifying himself with Dafka.

In the interest of fairness and accuracy, I retract the statements referring to Kaplan's associated groups as "making at least one death threat" and the portion of the the next paragraph which states "from an individual identifying himself with Dafka." This information was taken from a San Francisco Bay Guardian article (linked in the original article) and has since proven to be incorrect. Though the factual information regarding the time and circumstances of the death threat are correct, the death threat caller did not specifically identify himself with Dafka. At the time of my original article's publication, I did not know the information was incorrect and I regret its inclusion. The Bay Guardian has also issued a correction.

The following is a revised version of the original article, including new updated information and links. Read more to learn about Dafka, Protest Warrior, David Horowitz ; Students For Academic Freedom and Kaplan's links to Kahanism.

Lee Kaplan, Dafka Exposed -- Updated Edition

By Will Wallace


Santa Cruz Community Television has something unexpected airing on one of its stations. Recently, Club Cruz, a locally produced television show, has been used as a platform for virtual infomercials for an extremist group with a record of harassing peace advocates.

The show, produced by Santa Cruz resident Becky Johnson, has featured on several occasions a man named Lee Kaplan, self-proclaimed founder and director of the extreme Zionist group, Dafka. During the episodes, Kaplan dominated the half-hour shows with inaccuracies about the Palestinian peace movement, negative stereotypes about Arabs and Islam, and potentially slanderous statements about widely respected groups such as Santa Cruz’s Resource Center for Nonviolence and Berkely’s MidEast Children’s Alliance and individuals involved with them. Intermittently throughout the show, addresses of Kaplan’s websites appeared across the screen and Kaplan invited viewers to visit the websites; he also promoted a book that was for sale on one of the websites. Each episode also featured a disgruntled Arab guest who shared negative opinions about Palestinians and Arabs from a presumed “insider’s” perspective. (One questions the authenticity of such guests, however, since Kaplan brags on his website about disguising himself and passing himself off as an Arab at various peaceful gatherings.)

Ron Holman, Programming Director at Community Television, said that even though some people may disagree with statements Kaplan makes, he is able to appear on their channels via their rules which set up the community stations as resource centers for the public as opposed to a television network model. Holman noted that an individual’s speech could be limited if he was inciting violence.

Though Kaplan didn’t directly call for violence in the episodes, a little fact checking showed that groups he is associated with have been busy hijacking and illegally intruding on peaceful meetings and harassing peace activists.

-December 3, 2003. DAFKA follows and harasses traveling peace exhibition, Wheels of Justice; coordinates harassment campaign via internet site.


-June 5, 2004.
Progressive Jewish Bay Area Peace Demonstration Harassed by Anti-Palestinian Groups.

-November 19, 2004.
Code Pink Hayward meeting at local church hijacked by hate groups Dafka and Protest Warrior; verbal abuse and physical intimidation used against female peace activists.

In his website, www.dafka.org, Kaplan describes himself as chief editor, “investigative journalist, news bureau head, businessman and political activist.” In other media, however, he is listed with other titles, including attorney, “Contributing Editor” for David Horowitz’s www.frontpagemag.com website and West Coast Coordinator” of Students for Academic Freedom. A post by someone identifying himself as Lee Kaplan on santacruzindymedia.org stated “I do make a living doing research about the Middle East and am a professional journalist. People do drop a dime to read me....I have appeared internationally on radio as a commentator.” However, an extensive and exhaustive search yielded no information that could confirm Kaplan’s location, background, education, research and type of business. In addition, no evidence was found that he had been published in print, as he insinuated. The only contact information found for Kaplan is leekaplan@att.net.



Kaplan appears to be involved in a network of pro-militancy, pro-Israeli international public relations agents who advocate, among other things, for Israel to seize all lands held 2000 years ago and mandatory military or civil service for all residents of Israel . He’s also busy generating propaganda for a consortium of conservative websites with the aim of discrediting peace groups, activists, librarians and academics; recruiting college students in the Bay Area and Santa Cruz for his anti-Palestinian Peace Movement and academic censorship groups; and shaping U.S. policy on education through SAF and its associated groups.


What Does All of This Mean?


On a website found in Dafka’s Links section, Bernard Shapiro, head of the “Freeman Center for Strategic Studies,” describes a scheme for a worldwide public relations campaign with the ultimate aim of protecting the over six billion dollars Israel annually receives from the United States.

“I think it is time to take a second look at my concept but expand it to include radio, magazines, cable television (cable will accept this type of commercial) and newspapers. The ads should range from the very soft evocative travel type to some hard hitting but subtle political messages. Pretend that Israel is a corporation with a vast market in the United States. Receipts from that market top $6 Billion Dollars ( including US economic and military aid, UJA, Israel Bonds, JNF, plus all the other campaigns from Yeshivas to the Technion). What would you spend to protect a market of that magnitude? One half of one percent would equal $30 million. You can run for president with thirty million dollars. In a wild fantasy, lets say we have that much money. And let's say we hire a talented creative ad man to develop a multi-faceted, multi-media, and multi-year campaign to win the hearts and minds of the American people.”

Kaplan is a regular contributor to the Freeman website.

Like the “frontpagemag” operation, Students for Academic Freedom is one of several organizations under the leadership umbrella of David Horowitz . SAF doesn’t actually promote “freedom” as much as encouraging students to turn in their teachers for saying things they don’t like or giving them grades they don’t want. If this seems eerily similar to approaches used by fascist campaigns throughout the world, that’s because it is. This website includes organizing tools, blank complaint forms for students to pass out and an “Academic Bill of Rights,” which amounts to a plan for academic censorship. It also has a “National and State Legislation” section (on the left scroll-down menu) and files on teachers nationwide they deem to be “too liberal.” The homepage even includes an insult aimed the target audience --- a graphic of the “hear-no-evil, see-no-evil, speak-no-evil” monkeys, traditionally a representation of people who want to ignore reality.

Kaplan has not been content to simply recruit for members in our community; he has also used his platform through Club Cruz to attack local politicians and activists who advocate for peace. Scott Kennedy, outgoing Santa Cruz mayor who signed the trailblazing City of Santa Cruz’s proclamation against the Iraq War, is one person Kaplan targeted for attacks on his website. Referring to the Resource Center for Nonviolence and Kennedy, Kaplan writes,

“..the ultimate in gall is that Scott likes to invoke the teachings of non-violence and tolerance of Martin Luther King. Would that Dr. King was still alive, he'd probably abandon non-violence for a moment and chuck ol' Scott upside the head. ....It is high time the Santa Cruz community recognize the hypocrisy of a center that is really a mouthpiece for Arab anti-Semitism and violence against Jews in the Middle East. Scott is an elected City Councilman there. When his term is up, I'm sure the majority of people who reside in Santa Cruz will turn him out. Perhaps this commentary can inform enough of them to do so.

With this veiled threat by Kaplan, one is left to wonder whether or not his remarks about Kennedy had any influence on his recent defeat in the City Council race.

The Dafka website, which roughly translated means, “In your face!” in Hebrew, has an editorial voice much like Kaplan’s and Horowitz’s other projects. They vociferously attack any organization or individual that dares question the United States’ and Israel’s policies. Kaplan and Horowitz prefer to use semantic attacks against those they seek to silence with meaningless phrases meant to squelch all forms of discussion. An example of such a phrase is “stand with Israel.” Although the phrase conjures up a strong images of loyalty, what does it really mean? It insinuates, much like the phrase “support our troops,” that if someone doesn’t go along with what the author is advocating, then he somehow does not “stand with Israel,” or does not “support our troops.” Whenever someone challenges something Kaplan or Horowitz says, their stock reply is “Anti-Semitism!” This couldn’t be more ridiculous since they save their most vicious attacks for other Jews involved in the peace process and for Arabs, who are also by definition a Semitic people.

Not only are peace advocates offended by Kaplan's modus operandi, even other Zionists have criticized Kaplan's methods. On www.zionist.org, Alan D. Miller criticizes Kaplan for using links to Masada 2000, a website which espouses the tactics of Meir Kahane, founder of Jewish Defense League and Kach.

If I expect Muslim organizations to distance themselves from HAMAS and Islamic Jihad, I must also expect Jewish organizations to distance themselves from the memory of Rabbi Kahane, yemach shemo. From what I can see on your website, it does not appear that you have done so. Removal of these links and an unequivocal condemnation of Kahanism would be much more persuasive than an equivocal denial of affiliation with the Kahane movement.

Kach and its offshoot, Kahane Chai, were outlawed by Israel in 1994 as terrorist organizations.

Lee Kaplan, like anyone else, has his right to free speech. What seems to be less clear, especially in the way Community Television is run, is how people are accountable for what they broadcast. As it stands now, only a producer can allow people access to past episodes of Club Cruz. One has to question if that makes an entity responsible for the content of their broadcasts, especially when, in the case of former mayor Scott Kennedy, Club Cruz broadcasts occur during City Council meetings.

Clearly, Lee Kaplan and his associates have an agenda: attack and discredit any entity that might lead to a slowing of money flowing into Israel. Judging by their slick websites and the many public relations experts employed, it is also a well-funded one. When community budgets are being slashed and local resources are drying up, how fair is it to allow a non-Santa Cruz County resident to broadcast his infomercials for free at the community’s expense? Under the current structure of Community T.V., Becky Johnson, producer of Club Cruz, is the only person accountable to the public for the content of the show. She is listed under Dafka’s website as a member and UCSC coordinator for Dafka; her email is listed as becky_johnson@sbcglobal.net. An alternative email address she listed on the Santa Cruz Indymedia site is becky_johnson222@hotmail.com. Lee Kaplan lists his email address as leekaplan@att.net.

In many of the websites associated with Kaplan, supporters are urged to inundate public officials, regulatory agencies and the media with their messages. Perhaps all those people Kaplan has been attacking really do have something to learn from him.


For Further Reading:

Background Information:

UC Berkeley’s Jewish Student Union Rejects Dafka for membership.


If Americans Knew: Another Perspective on the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

Gush-Shalom: The Israeli Peace Bloc

Distorting U.S. Foreign Policy: The Israel Lobby and American Power

The Men From JINSA and CSP

The Pro-Israel Lobby

The Israel Lobby and The Left: Uneasy Questions

Pro-Israel Lobby Has Strong Voice

Subpoenas issued for officials of pro-Israeli lobby group


Mainline Protestants Challenge Israel Lobby


A Strange Freedom: Jewish and Christian Fundamentalism

The Israeli Slaughter At Sabra and Shatilla
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by reader
thanks for this will
by Critical Thinker
Why else would he publish another, slightly modified edition of his mendacious Israel bashing and Lee Kaplan bashing article?

As a member of Dafka, I was one of the people maligned with Wallace's article.

I note Wallace still can't find any articles published by Lee Kaplan. I guess he doesn't know how to do a google search!

I did a google search and found all these published articles:

Lee Kaplan is a contributing editor to Frontpagemag.com.

Recent Articles

Princeton's Anti-Israel Jihad
Published: Monday, January 24, 2005

Indiana "Peace Studies"
Published: Friday, December 17, 2004

Scholars For Terror
Published: Tuesday, December 07, 2004

Palestinian Terror On Campus
Published: Tuesday, November 23, 2004

Jihad at San Francisco State
Published: Monday, November 08, 2004

Intifada Against College Republicans
Published: Tuesday, November 02, 2004

Inside Duke's Hate Fest
Published: Friday, October 29, 2004

Duke University's Weekend Hate Fest
Published: Friday, October 15, 2004

A Hollywood Heavy for Bush
Published: Tuesday, October 12, 2004

San Francisco Schools For Jihad
Published: Friday, October 01, 2004

Duke's Platform for Terror
Published: Wednesday, September 15, 2004

Three Bullets and a Dead Child
Published: Tuesday, September 07, 2004

Disclosed
Published: Wednesday, September 01, 2004

Librarians for Terror
Published: Tuesday, August 24, 2004

Islamist Terror Via the American Internet
Published: Tuesday, August 10, 2004

Solidarity With Terror
Published: Friday, July 02, 2004

Diplomat of Democracy: Natan Sharansky Part II
Published: Tuesday, May 04, 2004

Diplomat of Democracy: Natan Sharansky
Published: Monday, May 03, 2004

The Saudi Fifth Column On Our Nation's Campuses
Published: Monday, April 05, 2004

Freedom Triumphs at San Francisco State
Published: Thursday, March 25, 2004

Textbooks for Jihad
Published: Friday, March 19, 2004

The Foothills of Hatred
Published: Monday, March 15, 2004

Purge at San Francisco State
Published: Thursday, February 26, 2004

PLO Propaganda Film "Jenin, Jenin"
Published: Friday, February 20, 2004

The Pipes Speech
Published: Monday, February 16, 2004

Ford Funds the Palestinian Left
Published: Monday, February 09, 2004

Onedance Summit Comes to California
Published: Friday, January 30, 2004

Indoctrination at Indiana U
Published: Tuesday, January 27, 2004

Jihad Against U.S. High School Students
Published: Friday, December 19, 2003

CAL State Palestine
Published: Monday, December 08, 2003

Campus Rally for Terror
Published: Wednesday, November 26, 2003

Students for Jihad
Published: Thursday, October 23, 2003

As you can see, Lee Kaplan has been widely published (and not just at Frontpagemag either). Wallace is misleading his readers by his charge that he could find no evidence of Lee Kaplan's career as a journalist.



by watching becky
*in print* -- seems clear to _me_!

hey becky, so anyone who publishes on Indybay is now a "published author"
by Lee Kaplan
How sad that Will Wallace (a fake name) has to try and link me to Kach and the Kahanist Movement. He lied trying to imply that DAFKA engaged in a death threat (with no apology from Wallace) so tries another smear. DAFKA has never advocated violence against anyone. In order to be a terrorist supporting movement, DAFKA would have to support terrorists and that is not the case.
We do urge readers to go to the http://www.dafka.org website.


Meanwhile, as to the link to DAFKA's "agenda," the author doesn't know that the WRMEA report he claims shows DAFKA's agenda is published by Saudi Arabia, the biggest financier of terrorism in the world, including Hamas. But then again, to "Will Wallace," one man's terrorist is an ally to help make war on the Jews.

Sad, that this denizen of Indymedia who calls himself WIll Wallace is so terribly ignorant. But then he is stupid enough to support the likes of Yasser Arafat and the perpetuation of unending war in the Middle East. His article is worthless.
by alwaysshariff
I read your article in http://ics.leeds.ac.uk/papers/vp01.cfm?outfit=pmt&folder=1259&paper=1737. Good article but the content needs updating I think.
these are my observations.
http://www.hamasonline.org/indexx.php?page=crimes
Nothing here except Zionist crimes, which I think you, should be aware of anyway.

http://www.spiderhosts.net/
This is a web-hosting site in Linux.

http://www.hostinganime.com/sout19/bttar.htm
Hosting site

http://www.indybay.org/international/palestine/
Independent media forum where people like myself contribute news. I could not see any terrorist activities here.

http://www.alhourriah.org/
http://www.qal3ati.org
http://www.nasrollah.org
http://www.intiqad.com
http://www.alsakifah.org
http://alsaha.com
Sorry cannot understand Arabic and no English.

http://www.sarayaalquds.com
http://www.rabdullah.com
http://www.neda2-friend.co.uk
http://www.moqawama.org/page2/f_martyrs.htm
http://www.moqawama.org/page2/f_hostag.htm
http://www.qudsaway.com
http://ansar-alsonnah.8k.com
http://www.almjlah.com
Not available.

http://www.moqawama.net
I went to this page and it was hate mail from Jews.
http://www.moqawama.tv/page2/f_letter.htm
Sample:
eyal sela, 07:13 17/08/97, (no subject)
Return-Path: <eyal.sela [at] theclub.ipc.co.il>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 19:13:30 +0000
From: eyal sela <eyal.sela@theclub~ipc.co.il>
To: moqawama [at] cyberia.net. lb
Subject: (no subject)

I was a soldier in Lebanon and I saw many of your terrorists getting killed and I liked it every single time I saw it.

I hope that all of you (f….) will die and burn in hell like the pigs that you are!!!!!
(F…..) you.

Sometimes i wish i was back in Lebanon to see some more bombings of MAGDAL-SLEM, SHAICRA, KABRIHA, FARCABBEE, BAR'ASHIT and of-course NABATIYE.

I personally fired my tank on some of your friends and killed them. I was so happy! ! ! ! !
(F…..) off.

You will be hearing from me and my friends soon as we will mailbomb your site!!!
LONG LIVE "ISRAEL"! ''' HALLELUYA! !!

Well it is another Arabic/English news and views website. I could not get into the readers letters page but seen some samples. So I wish you show me where the bad guys are.



http://www.manartv.com
A TV station website. I don't know where the bad programs here.

http://www.kataebaqsa1.com
I haven't a clue about this site but there are lots of question marks on it I can see. "This Website features a photograph on its homepage of a teenage suicide bomber holding a grenade." Where?

http://www.chechan.org
Only a single line in Arabic and no clickable links at all.

http://www.ansarnet.ws/vb
Arab Forum needs login.

http://www.abrarway.com
This is a Jewish dating website. Sorry I am not looking for a partner at the moment. Put it in my favourites to come back to it later.
I hope you stop winding people up and take something more important like reporting in your website for a change.
By the way do not take me as a Muslim which I am not. I am a free thinking individual who has his own religion which will not suit any one else.
by crazy
"why doesn’t the U.S. government take a pro-active approach to shutting down these Websites? "

Then where would you people post all your right-wing attacks? I mean if all left-wing speech were outlawed and all people who expressed sympathy for the Palestinians were thrown in jail all your right wing wackos who make money selling fear to the US public would go out of business. Without Communist groups where would Horrowitz be? Without liberals where would Coulter be? Without "secular humanists" to hate where would Pat Robertson be?
by Haw!
"Clearly, Lee Kaplan has had a major effect in the Santa Cruz community and on the campus to arouse such a smear campaign against him on Indymedia."

It's like this, nitwit: people are getting really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really
SICK TO DEATH of zionist propaganda workers polluting every medium, trying to twist their brains into involuntary sympathy with Israel. Like if they can just trick them into believing "the average Joe on the street" is worried about Israel, they'll fall right into line with that. You know, just like you're doing. Don't even start with the innocent shtick; I've seen this stunt you're pulling about 50,000 times now. The really telltale sign of a zionist bullshitter is they always think you're too stupid to figure out what they're up to.
by Critical Thinker
>>>"The really telltale sign of a zionist bullshitter is they always think you're too stupid to figure out what they're "<<<

Outside of sites like this one, most people are growing increasingly impatient and tired with the preponderance of anti-Israel propaganda of the pro-Palestinian stripe that emanates from so many quarters of the ultra-Left.
by former anarchist
No doubt CT, not doubt. Increasingly it appears that extemists at both ends of the L-R dichotomy are hanging themselves with their own ropes, especially with regards to Israel. But we should not be complacent just b/c these nuts are a minority.
by Whadda Dork
Not all zionists are Jews, not all Jews are zionists. Zionism is not a Jewish "liberation" movement but rather a movement for a Jewish theocratic state. It is not only possible but quite easy and quite right to oppose zionism without being anti-semitic.

But of course, there are SOOO many zionists who will bring shame on themselves by playing the "anti-semite" card any time zionism comes under fire. By doing so, they simply are crying wolf, and diluting the credibility of the term so that it will be suspect when it is rightly applied against truly anti-semitic groups.
by Santa Cruzian
I've been following this thread and now I see why Indymedia attempted to smear Lee Kaplan. He cuts through all the baloney on Club Cruz. Becky Johnson routinely kicks ass on all these phonies who think they are revolutionaries. No wonder they censor her when possible.

Zionism is the right for Jews to have a national homeland. Non-Jews have equal civil rights to Jews in Israel. Palestianism is the advocacy for an Arab-Muslim dominated state to replace democratic Israel with a constitution based on sharia law like in Iran and Saudi Arabia (just read the PA constitution, article 7 in Arabic.).It is doublespeak to try and suggest Zionism is racism when a Palestinian state is the racism in its ugliest form.

I note all the pro-Palestinians on this website always resort to insults and namecallling too. The fact is they do so because they ahve no valid or truthful arguments beyond dispossessing the Jews
in the region for their allies among the Muslims who align with communist and anarchist interests.

Keep up the good work, Becky. There are those of us in Santa Cruz who have been turned around by Club Cruz and now support Israel. That is why you have been under attack. Being liberal or leftist has nothing to do with supporting the Palestinians in their quest to destroy Israel. Being antisemitic, however, does.
by Lazarus Long
"Zionism is the right for Jews to have a national homeland."

No, "Zionism" is a clever semantic smokescreen for simple separatist racism, for which Jews have a very noticeable weakness.
by ...
"I've been following this thread and now I see why Indymedia attempted to smear Lee Kaplan"

Indymedia isnt doing anything. Looking around the site it seems like there are far more comments posted by people who agree with you than disgaree with you. Its a a little rude for all yall to hang out on this site as if it is a chat site posting comments all day and then attack the site for the comments and posts you disgaree with. Right wing stuff seems to often get hidden here, but looking through hidden posts there is as much offensive antiIsrael stuff hidden as there is offensive proIsrael stuff hidden. The site does have a Palestine page that is pretty proPalestinian but I dont see posts like this one classified to appear on that page....
by from the Angry White Kid
lee_kaplan_2.gif
Lee Kaplan is the suave-looking gentleman above. Many involved in work on Israel/Palestine are familiar with him. He mainly dwells over on FrontPageMag.com, where he writes "articles" that consistently have "terror," "hate" or "jihad" in the title. His "research" consists of stuff he either blatantly makes up or hyper-exaggerates.

Full blog posting at
http://angrywhitekid.blogs.com/weblog/2006/02/the_nauseating_.html

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the funniest thing all weekend at the Rachel Corrie Foundation's PeaceWorks Conference (Olympia, WA):

from the stage:
"Um, we found a black wallet...um, Lee, Lee Kaplan? Please retrieve your wallet at the front registration booth. thanks!"

...shock and gasps filled the auditorium. People craned their necks around to see if it was, in fact, THE Lee Kaplan.

And it was.

And his face turned a nice deep shade of orangey-red. i think he left pretty much right after that.


Posted by: Nora | April 24, 2006 at 03:17 PM
by sf weekly repost
SF Weekly Article On Lee Kaplan: Disturbing the Peace
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/08/11/18296326.php

The local conversation between pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian activists is getting less civil every day. And Lee Kaplan's tactics aren't helping.

Lee Kaplan barges through the crowd to the front of the barricade on Montgomery Street. Although it's quitting time on a Thursday, no suited bankers stroll down this block. Across the way, a few hundred pro-Palestinian activists and sympathizers clot the sidewalk in front of a neoclassical building, directing their ire at the Israeli consulate on the second floor. Kaplan hoists a 15-foot-tall flagpole flying both the Israeli and American flags, and takes hold of a bullhorn. "You want to see the next generation of garbage in the Middle East, look over on the other side of the street!"

...

...Kaplan formed Dafka, a student group dedicated to counteracting the Palestinian sympathizers on the Cal campus. Kaplan poured his energy into Dafka for several fractious years, until his work came to the attention of the conservative pundit David Horowitz. The two men quickly realized they could work together: Horowitz was starting Students for Academic Freedom, a national network of student groups that would agitate for "ideological balance" on college campuses, and he needed organizers. Kaplan signed on, and was soon writing articles about his experiences on university grounds for Horowitz's online publication, FrontPage Magazine.

...

More
http://www.sfweekly.com/Issues/2006-08-09/news/feature_2.html
by T. Farage
When Lee and I spoke regarding politics in the middle east, we were discussing Arafat and we shared many similar opinions.
He then asked me to write a Lebanese perspective on what happened during the civil war and to recount what i knew or heard of Palestinina war crimes at the time.

I wrote an article giving mostly my opinion ( i believe its still on his site) and i recounted a well known story of a village called Damour in Lebanon, destroyed by the Palestinians.

This is a well known story that everyone heard in Lebanon, which is told on many sites by many people.

At the time of writing my article and sending it to dafka i had not taken the time to read more about them or their activities. It may also be noteworthy to say that i was very blinded by my beliefs at the time, something Lee used very well.

I mention all this just to clear up things, after ive been seeing that it has been suggested that i was present at the time of these masscres or what not. I was not there.
Moreover, iw ould like to say that i no longer share any opinions with dafka on any matter whatsoever, and would like them to remove my article, but fat chance of that happening i guess!!!

regards
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