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Tsunami Relief as a Subterfuge? The Pentagon Scrambles to Reenter its Old Air Base in Th
Is the tsunami aftermath a “window of opportunity” for bolstering the Pentagon’s presence in Southeast Asia? The Thai people reject the proposed build-up of the American military at Utapao air base and in the Gulf of Thailand. The tragedy of the natural catastrophe in the Indian Ocean should not serve as a pretext for strengthening the U.S. military presence in the region.
The Pentagon has announced it is returning to its old Vietnam War haunts at Utapao Royal Thai Naval Air Force Base 90 miles south of Bangkok on the Gulf of Thailand. In this clear escalation of the American military presence in Southeast Asia, the ostensible plan is to set up a “command center” for the tsunami emergency relief effort. Utapao air base will serve as a staging base for U.S. military and rescue aircraft. The emergency relief operations appear to provide a windfall opportunity for beefing up the American military presence in Southeast Asia, part of the expanding Pentagon strategy of "forward positioning," establishing sites, so-called “air cargo hubs,” where American forces can stash equipment and enter and leave as desired.
During the Vietnam War, Utapao functioned from April 1967 as a major staging base for B-52s carrying out bombing raids over North Vietnam, and KC-35 stratotankers of the Strategic Air Command. Many American GIs served there [1].
Despite Thailand's neutrality on the war in Iraq, Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra allowed Utapao to be used by American warplanes flying into combat in Iraq last year, and into Afghanistan earlier. There is also speculation that Utapao, with its infamous facilities for ‘sophisticated interrogation’ (a holdover from the Vietnam era), is probably where various al-Qaeda suspects have been secretly grilled.
The command center will be largely operated by the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Force. The naval air base, also now functioning as a local airport, is located a short drive from the tourist mega-center of Pattaya, whose roots also go back to the Vietnam era. The U. S. Navy is also dispatching the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group and the USS Bonhomme Richard expeditionary strike group to the immediate area offshore [2].
Is all this military redeployment to bolster ‘humanitarian aid’ efforts? The Thai people reject a build-up of the American military at Utapao air base and in the Gulf of Thailand. In this hour of calamity, they are grateful for all support -- but not when tethered to a huge reentry by the Pentagon onto Thai soil. The tragedy of the present havoc in the Indian Ocean should not serve as a pretext for strengthening the U.S. military presence in this disaster-striken region.
[1] For sites on Utapao air base and the American military, see http://amer-thai2001.tripod.com/id30.html ; http://www.utapao.org/ (Utapao Alumni Association) ; http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/utapao.htm
[2] See “Hundreds of Americans Missing,” http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/28/us-quake.ap/index.html
During the Vietnam War, Utapao functioned from April 1967 as a major staging base for B-52s carrying out bombing raids over North Vietnam, and KC-35 stratotankers of the Strategic Air Command. Many American GIs served there [1].
Despite Thailand's neutrality on the war in Iraq, Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra allowed Utapao to be used by American warplanes flying into combat in Iraq last year, and into Afghanistan earlier. There is also speculation that Utapao, with its infamous facilities for ‘sophisticated interrogation’ (a holdover from the Vietnam era), is probably where various al-Qaeda suspects have been secretly grilled.
The command center will be largely operated by the 3rd Marine Expeditionary Force. The naval air base, also now functioning as a local airport, is located a short drive from the tourist mega-center of Pattaya, whose roots also go back to the Vietnam era. The U. S. Navy is also dispatching the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group and the USS Bonhomme Richard expeditionary strike group to the immediate area offshore [2].
Is all this military redeployment to bolster ‘humanitarian aid’ efforts? The Thai people reject a build-up of the American military at Utapao air base and in the Gulf of Thailand. In this hour of calamity, they are grateful for all support -- but not when tethered to a huge reentry by the Pentagon onto Thai soil. The tragedy of the present havoc in the Indian Ocean should not serve as a pretext for strengthening the U.S. military presence in this disaster-striken region.
[1] For sites on Utapao air base and the American military, see http://amer-thai2001.tripod.com/id30.html ; http://www.utapao.org/ (Utapao Alumni Association) ; http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/utapao.htm
[2] See “Hundreds of Americans Missing,” http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/28/us-quake.ap/index.html
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The seismic detection bouys could have given warning a few hours before the wave hit and enabled enough people to evacuate, preventing loss of life..
Call me paranoid, but it almost seems like the US government (and their overseas puppets) place people in harms way, wait for the inevitable disaster, than look like heroes when they rush in to save the day..
Disaster relief agencies like Red Cross are well funded and await disasters of great magnitude like the recent tsunami to start another fund raising campaign..
Most of the expensive coastal development was for wealthy tourists anyway. Simple traditional "indigenous" structures from palm leaves, bamboo and such are common along tropical coastal regions and don't require any lost cost if they are swept away by a tsunami or seasonal typhoon..
Call me paranoid, but it almost seems like the US government (and their overseas puppets) place people in harms way, wait for the inevitable disaster, than look like heroes when they rush in to save the day..
Disaster relief agencies like Red Cross are well funded and await disasters of great magnitude like the recent tsunami to start another fund raising campaign..
Most of the expensive coastal development was for wealthy tourists anyway. Simple traditional "indigenous" structures from palm leaves, bamboo and such are common along tropical coastal regions and don't require any lost cost if they are swept away by a tsunami or seasonal typhoon..
Planet Earth:The Latest Weapon of War by world renown scientist Dr. R. Bertell tells it all! I read it and it is shocking to find out what the US military has been doing.
Even US secretary of Defense William Cohen let it out of the bag in April of 1997. "...eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes REMOTELY through the use of ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES..."
Look up HAARP(electromagnetic waves usage) and find out that tetonic plates can be manipulated!)
Even US secretary of Defense William Cohen let it out of the bag in April of 1997. "...eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes REMOTELY through the use of ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES..."
Look up HAARP(electromagnetic waves usage) and find out that tetonic plates can be manipulated!)
Your paranoia and conspiracy-laden nonsense is about the most hysterical crap I've seen lately. Blame it on the US!! Bushitler! Halliburton! Go back to your cave.
Thanks for pointing out the HAARP connection. It is very credible and this technology is being used for political purposes by the US government. Michael Ruppert describes its use against his home by the government in Crossing the Rubicon. It is believed that this was the weapon used by the government to shoot down the plane on 9/11/01 over Pennsylvania, as Ruppert more fully describes his book (the electricity in an elementary school in the area went out for a while, caused by this technology). It was also used to create a phony electrical crisis one August sometime between 2001 and this year (I simply forget exactly which August) to pass a pro-Bush profiteering bill. The power outtage shut down New York City and much of the northeast for a day or so.
Capitalism is in a great crisis, or as Ruppert calls it, the decline of the American empire. These are acts of desperation of a dying, but still dangerous, beast. There is no low to which the capitalists will not stoop to maximize their profits, their primary concern at all times. Our response must be a labor movement capable of calling a general strike.
Capitalism is in a great crisis, or as Ruppert calls it, the decline of the American empire. These are acts of desperation of a dying, but still dangerous, beast. There is no low to which the capitalists will not stoop to maximize their profits, their primary concern at all times. Our response must be a labor movement capable of calling a general strike.
Thanks to Portland Indymedia, I have learned about an article by Michel Chossudovsky, "The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction:"Owning the Weather" for Military Use" on the excellent website of the Center of Research on Globalisation, at:
ttp://http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html
It covers the HAARP connection and much more.
I would like to urge this website have, like Portland's has, a 9/11 Truth Movement Feature page, so that the SF Bay Area readers become more aware of the nature of the government we have. Global Research is part of the 9/11 Truth Movement and has much food for thought on its website.
As other articles on Portland's Indymedia website point out, the Aceh independence movement and the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka were opposed by US oil imperialism and its local lackeys. This catastrophe murdered millions of these movements' supporters. Of course, no one can turn back the clock of history, but we cannot move forward without a labor movement.
For more in Sri Lanka, see 12/29/04 World Socialist Website which has correspondents in Sri Lanka, "Sri Lankan Victims Speak to the WSWS" with color photos at:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/dec2004/sril-d29.shtml
ttp://http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html
It covers the HAARP connection and much more.
I would like to urge this website have, like Portland's has, a 9/11 Truth Movement Feature page, so that the SF Bay Area readers become more aware of the nature of the government we have. Global Research is part of the 9/11 Truth Movement and has much food for thought on its website.
As other articles on Portland's Indymedia website point out, the Aceh independence movement and the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka were opposed by US oil imperialism and its local lackeys. This catastrophe murdered millions of these movements' supporters. Of course, no one can turn back the clock of history, but we cannot move forward without a labor movement.
For more in Sri Lanka, see 12/29/04 World Socialist Website which has correspondents in Sri Lanka, "Sri Lankan Victims Speak to the WSWS" with color photos at:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/dec2004/sril-d29.shtml
For more information:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO4...
The amount of energy released by the Aceh earthquake on Sunday was probably equivalent to at least that of thousands of thermonuclear bombs. (I'm not knowledgeable enough to say whether it would be like 5,000 or 100,000 such bombs.) While human action could theoretically trigger such an earthquake, it could only do so if that much energy had been stored up due to the deformation of tectonic plates rubbing against each other. In such a case, that human intervention would perhaps cause the earthquake to happen earlier (or later) than it would have happened otherwise, but it wouldn't noticeably affect the magnituted of the quake. So the obvious question is, why would the U.S. military have wanted this quake to occur at this time, rather than a few weeks, months or years later, even if they benefitted from it? I can't see any reason.
While I don't doubt that the War Department uses its trillions of dollars for all kinds of projects, some of which do tremendous environmental damage and destabilize the planet's ecology, I don't see any reason to believe that an organization that can't capture a small Iraqi city can manipulate earthquakes and hurricanes in ways that would make them useful as weapons. Or do people think that Grenada, Florida and Alabama are prime targets of the Pentagon, and not just Aceh and the Tamil region of Sri Lanka?
BTW, where does anonymous "Socialist" get the idea that the earthquake/tsunami killed "millions" of supporters of the Aceh independence movement and the Tamil Tigers? The death toll in Aceh was estimated at around 60,000 by a supporter of Aceh independence on "Democracy Now!" on Wednesday. The death toll in Sri Lanka is in the tens of thousands. Absolutely nobody with any credibility has suggested a total death toll -- everywhere -- of much over 100,000. Of course, outbreaks of epidemic diseases could greatly increase that number, and that is what we must struggle to prevent by getting sufficient aid to the affected regions.
We have here another case of anonymous irresponsibility, i.e., somebody anonymously posts something ridiculous (for whatever motive) without -- because they are anonymous -- having to worry about being made to look the fool.
While I don't doubt that the War Department uses its trillions of dollars for all kinds of projects, some of which do tremendous environmental damage and destabilize the planet's ecology, I don't see any reason to believe that an organization that can't capture a small Iraqi city can manipulate earthquakes and hurricanes in ways that would make them useful as weapons. Or do people think that Grenada, Florida and Alabama are prime targets of the Pentagon, and not just Aceh and the Tamil region of Sri Lanka?
BTW, where does anonymous "Socialist" get the idea that the earthquake/tsunami killed "millions" of supporters of the Aceh independence movement and the Tamil Tigers? The death toll in Aceh was estimated at around 60,000 by a supporter of Aceh independence on "Democracy Now!" on Wednesday. The death toll in Sri Lanka is in the tens of thousands. Absolutely nobody with any credibility has suggested a total death toll -- everywhere -- of much over 100,000. Of course, outbreaks of epidemic diseases could greatly increase that number, and that is what we must struggle to prevent by getting sufficient aid to the affected regions.
We have here another case of anonymous irresponsibility, i.e., somebody anonymously posts something ridiculous (for whatever motive) without -- because they are anonymous -- having to worry about being made to look the fool.
It is even worse. The Pentagon caused the tsunami so that they could justify the intervention.
It was the Pentagon that caused the tsunami so that they could have an excuse for the intervention.
Then it is not only the Pentagon which can do those things. In the case of the Pinatubo there must have been the Filipinos, who wanted the base closed.
Do you rembember a flood in Algeria about two years ago? Do you know what? Now some CIA agents are hunting for terrorists in the south of that country. Do you think it is a coincidence?
No. It has been know that two CIA agents were in Algiers when the disater took place.
What were they doing there and why they are in the country?
Obviously, there are thousands dead and there are millions who are homeless. This is simply a typographical error. The impact is certainly very great. I suggest Aaron read the Global Research article at http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html .
I also suggest he read all the rest of the Global Research site as it is loaded with all kinds of information, often from a socialist perspective.
There would be no Indymedia websites if most of us could not be anonymous, and Aaron knows this. Please get off your high horse and do your homework. Read the above article, and while you are at it, read Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions & Distortions by David Griffin. Clearly, Aaron needs to read more.
The reason for all of the capitalist class' actions is the same: to maximize profits for the capitalist class.
I also suggest he read all the rest of the Global Research site as it is loaded with all kinds of information, often from a socialist perspective.
There would be no Indymedia websites if most of us could not be anonymous, and Aaron knows this. Please get off your high horse and do your homework. Read the above article, and while you are at it, read Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions & Distortions by David Griffin. Clearly, Aaron needs to read more.
The reason for all of the capitalist class' actions is the same: to maximize profits for the capitalist class.
For more information:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO4...
If I was inclined to arrive at conspiratorial conclusions based on a tissue of evidence, I would say that "Socialist" is a CIA operative who's objective is to make socialists look like boobs.
It is not possible but a real fact. Do you remember what happened in Central America when the last earthquake took place? Some days before the earthquake, four American Socialists were spotted there and look what happened. Even more, later on those Socialists were known to be CIA agents.
It cannot be a coincidence that those CIA Socialists were in the very spot where an earthquake would ocur two days afterwards.
If so, whom is it against?
There's no real way to tell from the wording. It borders on gibberish. What *are* you trying to say here? Try again.
There's no real way to tell from the wording. It borders on gibberish. What *are* you trying to say here? Try again.
silly.
read again, and decide if you wish to point an arrow dipped in poison&koolaid at the obvious target.
read again, and decide if you wish to point an arrow dipped in poison&koolaid at the obvious target.
It sounds like gibberish. What did you mean to say? Try again.
it wasn't much of a directed joke anyway.
Could you please try to make sense here in the future? Please?
can you read, idiot?
like i said, NEVER mind. if you cant read for yourself than keep on keepin on,
like i said, NEVER mind. if you cant read for yourself than keep on keepin on,
Were HAARP or ELF transmissions to blame?
Pros:
1.Southeast Asia,with it's thousands of tiny islands and large indigent Muslim population,is my prime pick for where Osama is currently located.No one would turn him in,and he would be just another millionaire who owned his own island,making satellite detection hard.And even if Osama's not around,
2.There's still that very large Muslim population,and I'm sure Diego Garcia was feeling mighty isolated all by itself surrounded by Muslims.There have been several failed revolutions with the intention of bringing all of S.E. Asia under unified Islamic rule,creating a new superpower with about half a billion people.Faced with this prospect,it's entirely feasible our leadership may have decided to "thin the herd"(they've made equally callous decisions about their own citizens)especially with a massive display of godlike power.The US would use that to send the old "my god is bigger than your god" message to the Muslim world,since so many of the neo-crusaders believe it.
3.The disparity in response times between the civilian warning system and the military relief.The warning system that was set up FOR THIS PURPOSE failed to give adequate warning,yet before a day had passed we already had dispatched two carriers to dispense aid in the region(wanna bet the aid has brand names on it?)And it goes without saying that once the Americans enter a region,they don'y leave.We'll find reasons to call more troops in,and hey,I'm sure we'll uncover a couple of terrorist cells that will require our military presence for years to come.What are their governments going to do,refuse humanitarian aid?They'd look like dicks.A pity too,because Malaysia had just cut itself free from the World Bank's puppet strings.And why would America want to occupy S.E. Asia?
4.The oil.You knew I was getting to it sooner or later.There are oil reserves in the fairly shallow Indian ocean,in fact several oil companies were using "sonar blasts" to try and sound out oil reserves a few weeks before the blast(!)
5.Two days before it happened,there were mass beachings of marine mammals all over the region.Many of them were dolphins,which do not normally beach themselves.
Cons:
1.How did Diego Garcia protect itself if it had foreknowledge if it's only 22 feet above sea level?Did the whole base raise up on stilts?It probably would have taken at least a day to put sandbags all around the base.
2.The big one:HAARP's effectiveness.As I understand it from the limited credible information available about HAARP,it consists of a microwave dish array that pulses out electromagnetic radiation which then bounces off the ionosphere,and can conceiviably be directed at certain points on the earth's surface through triangulation.Now,I can see how that would be helpful in creating cloud formations and maybe even hurricanes,but triggering an earthquake would take more power than the largest nuke ever detonated directed at an epicenter that is fairly small as far as geology goes.The pulses that HAARP sends out are powerful,but it is power disseminated over a very large area,and it probably can't be more accurate than a degree of miles.The pulses that HAARP transmits conduct very well through the atmosphere,but are stopped by just a few meters of ground.So how would it reach a specific spot miles underground with supernuclear power?I could even see it creating the wave itself through a stretch,but not an earthquake.And this is all assuming that HAARP operates exactly as it was intended,which most of DARPA's projects do not(the Osprey)I realize most of these failed projects are hoods designed to make DARPA look kooky and wasteful but ultimately harmless,but I was always of the impression that the only projects we even hear about are the ones that go belly-up,i.e. Area 51,UFOs,MKULTRA(the exception being RX-84)They make for nice distractions.If we did somehow create this disaster,we didn't use HAARP.
Conclusion:Motive but no Means
Sidenote:The Russians do have an array like HAARP,at least in form,and I heard talk about Aum in Japan trying to contract it out from them.Anybody remember the story of the "Divine Wind"?If Aum's leader really wants to convince people he's god,that would be the way to do it.
Pros:
1.Southeast Asia,with it's thousands of tiny islands and large indigent Muslim population,is my prime pick for where Osama is currently located.No one would turn him in,and he would be just another millionaire who owned his own island,making satellite detection hard.And even if Osama's not around,
2.There's still that very large Muslim population,and I'm sure Diego Garcia was feeling mighty isolated all by itself surrounded by Muslims.There have been several failed revolutions with the intention of bringing all of S.E. Asia under unified Islamic rule,creating a new superpower with about half a billion people.Faced with this prospect,it's entirely feasible our leadership may have decided to "thin the herd"(they've made equally callous decisions about their own citizens)especially with a massive display of godlike power.The US would use that to send the old "my god is bigger than your god" message to the Muslim world,since so many of the neo-crusaders believe it.
3.The disparity in response times between the civilian warning system and the military relief.The warning system that was set up FOR THIS PURPOSE failed to give adequate warning,yet before a day had passed we already had dispatched two carriers to dispense aid in the region(wanna bet the aid has brand names on it?)And it goes without saying that once the Americans enter a region,they don'y leave.We'll find reasons to call more troops in,and hey,I'm sure we'll uncover a couple of terrorist cells that will require our military presence for years to come.What are their governments going to do,refuse humanitarian aid?They'd look like dicks.A pity too,because Malaysia had just cut itself free from the World Bank's puppet strings.And why would America want to occupy S.E. Asia?
4.The oil.You knew I was getting to it sooner or later.There are oil reserves in the fairly shallow Indian ocean,in fact several oil companies were using "sonar blasts" to try and sound out oil reserves a few weeks before the blast(!)
5.Two days before it happened,there were mass beachings of marine mammals all over the region.Many of them were dolphins,which do not normally beach themselves.
Cons:
1.How did Diego Garcia protect itself if it had foreknowledge if it's only 22 feet above sea level?Did the whole base raise up on stilts?It probably would have taken at least a day to put sandbags all around the base.
2.The big one:HAARP's effectiveness.As I understand it from the limited credible information available about HAARP,it consists of a microwave dish array that pulses out electromagnetic radiation which then bounces off the ionosphere,and can conceiviably be directed at certain points on the earth's surface through triangulation.Now,I can see how that would be helpful in creating cloud formations and maybe even hurricanes,but triggering an earthquake would take more power than the largest nuke ever detonated directed at an epicenter that is fairly small as far as geology goes.The pulses that HAARP sends out are powerful,but it is power disseminated over a very large area,and it probably can't be more accurate than a degree of miles.The pulses that HAARP transmits conduct very well through the atmosphere,but are stopped by just a few meters of ground.So how would it reach a specific spot miles underground with supernuclear power?I could even see it creating the wave itself through a stretch,but not an earthquake.And this is all assuming that HAARP operates exactly as it was intended,which most of DARPA's projects do not(the Osprey)I realize most of these failed projects are hoods designed to make DARPA look kooky and wasteful but ultimately harmless,but I was always of the impression that the only projects we even hear about are the ones that go belly-up,i.e. Area 51,UFOs,MKULTRA(the exception being RX-84)They make for nice distractions.If we did somehow create this disaster,we didn't use HAARP.
Conclusion:Motive but no Means
Sidenote:The Russians do have an array like HAARP,at least in form,and I heard talk about Aum in Japan trying to contract it out from them.Anybody remember the story of the "Divine Wind"?If Aum's leader really wants to convince people he's god,that would be the way to do it.
" 1.How did Diego Garcia protect itself if it had foreknowledge if it's only 22 feet above sea level?Did the whole base raise up on stilts?It probably would have taken at least a day to put sandbags all around the base."
It was Levi Tation..a Mossad operative...
It was Levi Tation..a Mossad operative...
WASHINGTON — A Navy support facility located near the center of the Indian Ocean was spared any damage from Sunday’s devastating ocean surges.
Officials said the Diego Garcia Navy Support Facility, which houses about 1,700 military personnel and 1,500 civilian contractors, suffered no damage related to Sunday’s earthquake and ensuing tsunamis.
Personnel at the facility’s billeting office contacted by Stars and Stripes on Monday reported no unusual activity or problems over the weekend.
Diego Garcia, the southernmost island in the Chagos Archipelago, sits about 1,000 miles south of India and roughly 2,000 miles from the earthquake’s epicenter.
But officials in Somalia, whose coast is nearly 3,000 from the earthquake’s center, reported more than 100 deaths in coastal areas as a result of tidal waves.
Carolyn Bell, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Geological Survey, said even though an earthquake like Sunday’s will radiate destructive waves in all directions, the damage caused by the water differs greatly depending on the undersea topography.
She speculated that the numerous coral reefs may have dissipated some of the waves’ impact on the British-owned island, resulting in only a slightly higher tide that residents might not necessarily notice.
She said residents of coastal areas in Australia reported no effects from the earthquake, even though researchers know the sea levels there rose several feet.
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=25350&archive=true
Officials said the Diego Garcia Navy Support Facility, which houses about 1,700 military personnel and 1,500 civilian contractors, suffered no damage related to Sunday’s earthquake and ensuing tsunamis.
Personnel at the facility’s billeting office contacted by Stars and Stripes on Monday reported no unusual activity or problems over the weekend.
Diego Garcia, the southernmost island in the Chagos Archipelago, sits about 1,000 miles south of India and roughly 2,000 miles from the earthquake’s epicenter.
But officials in Somalia, whose coast is nearly 3,000 from the earthquake’s center, reported more than 100 deaths in coastal areas as a result of tidal waves.
Carolyn Bell, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Geological Survey, said even though an earthquake like Sunday’s will radiate destructive waves in all directions, the damage caused by the water differs greatly depending on the undersea topography.
She speculated that the numerous coral reefs may have dissipated some of the waves’ impact on the British-owned island, resulting in only a slightly higher tide that residents might not necessarily notice.
She said residents of coastal areas in Australia reported no effects from the earthquake, even though researchers know the sea levels there rose several feet.
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=25350&archive=true
I have just had a quick read of some of the comments posted here. It is interesting that people have come to the conclusion that the US is using the asian crisis as a means to establish themselves in the area. It was mentioned here and elsewhere that the quake was the equivilant of thousands of nukes.
Here is just a few facts people may like to consider before trashing the conspiricy theorists.
The June 5, 1977, New York Times described the great earthquake which destroyed Tangshan, China on July 28, 1976, and killed over 650,000 people.
"Just before the first tremor at 3:42 am, the sky lit up like daylight. The multi-hued lights, mainly white and red, were seen up to 200 miles away. Leaves on many trees were burned to a crisp and growing vegetables were scorched on one side, as if by a fireball."
Nikola Tesla revealed that an earthquake which drew police and ambulances to the region of his laboratory at 48 E. Houston St., New York, in 1898, was the result of a little machine he was experimenting with at the time which "you could put in your overcoat pocket."
The bewildered newspapermen pounced upon this as at least one thing they could understand and "the father of modern electricity" told what had happened as follows:
"I was experimenting with vibrations. I had one of my machines going and I wanted to see if I could get it in tune with the vibration of the building. I put it up notch after notch. There was a peculiar cracking sound.
"I asked my assistants where did the sound come from. They did not know. I put the machine up a few more notches. There was a louder cracking sound. I knew I was approaching the vibration of the steel building. I pushed the machine a little higher. "Suddenly all the heavy machinery in the place was flying around. I grabbed a hammer and broke the machine. The building would have been about our ears in another few minutes. Outside in the street there was pandemonium.
"The police and ambulances arrived. I told my assistants to say nothing. We told the police it must have been an earthquake. That's all they ever knew about it."
Some shrewd reporter asked Dr. Tesla at this point what he would need to destroy the Empire State Building and the doctor replied: "Vibration will do anything. It would only be necessary to step up the vibrations of the machine to fit the natural vibration of the building and the building would come crashing down. That's why soldiers break step crossing a bridge."
In another interview, he boasted that, "With this principle one could split the earth in half like an apple".
I don't know much about the education system in the US but here in Australia we were allways taught that Marconi was the inventor of the radio, which I have since found out was actually Tulsa. Why are we taught untruth's ? After Tulsa's death all his papers were taken by the US government.
Another point to note....
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A comment Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld made during a Christmas Eve address to U.S. troops in Baghdad has sparked new conspiracy theories about the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
In the speech, Rumsfeld made a passing reference to United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania after passengers attempted to stop al Qaeda hijackers.
But in his remarks, Rumsfeld referred to the "the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania."
Rumsfelds stuff up occured on Christmas eve. What is the best way to control the media ? Easy, create the news. One giant sized disaster coming up. No more articles on Rumsfeld admitting they shot down flight 93.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Here is just a few facts people may like to consider before trashing the conspiricy theorists.
The June 5, 1977, New York Times described the great earthquake which destroyed Tangshan, China on July 28, 1976, and killed over 650,000 people.
"Just before the first tremor at 3:42 am, the sky lit up like daylight. The multi-hued lights, mainly white and red, were seen up to 200 miles away. Leaves on many trees were burned to a crisp and growing vegetables were scorched on one side, as if by a fireball."
Nikola Tesla revealed that an earthquake which drew police and ambulances to the region of his laboratory at 48 E. Houston St., New York, in 1898, was the result of a little machine he was experimenting with at the time which "you could put in your overcoat pocket."
The bewildered newspapermen pounced upon this as at least one thing they could understand and "the father of modern electricity" told what had happened as follows:
"I was experimenting with vibrations. I had one of my machines going and I wanted to see if I could get it in tune with the vibration of the building. I put it up notch after notch. There was a peculiar cracking sound.
"I asked my assistants where did the sound come from. They did not know. I put the machine up a few more notches. There was a louder cracking sound. I knew I was approaching the vibration of the steel building. I pushed the machine a little higher. "Suddenly all the heavy machinery in the place was flying around. I grabbed a hammer and broke the machine. The building would have been about our ears in another few minutes. Outside in the street there was pandemonium.
"The police and ambulances arrived. I told my assistants to say nothing. We told the police it must have been an earthquake. That's all they ever knew about it."
Some shrewd reporter asked Dr. Tesla at this point what he would need to destroy the Empire State Building and the doctor replied: "Vibration will do anything. It would only be necessary to step up the vibrations of the machine to fit the natural vibration of the building and the building would come crashing down. That's why soldiers break step crossing a bridge."
In another interview, he boasted that, "With this principle one could split the earth in half like an apple".
I don't know much about the education system in the US but here in Australia we were allways taught that Marconi was the inventor of the radio, which I have since found out was actually Tulsa. Why are we taught untruth's ? After Tulsa's death all his papers were taken by the US government.
Another point to note....
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A comment Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld made during a Christmas Eve address to U.S. troops in Baghdad has sparked new conspiracy theories about the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
In the speech, Rumsfeld made a passing reference to United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania after passengers attempted to stop al Qaeda hijackers.
But in his remarks, Rumsfeld referred to the "the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania."
Rumsfelds stuff up occured on Christmas eve. What is the best way to control the media ? Easy, create the news. One giant sized disaster coming up. No more articles on Rumsfeld admitting they shot down flight 93.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
Project HAARP: Holes in Heaven (Video)
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Are we making Holes in Heaven? H.A.A.R.P. (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) is a controversial high frequency radio transmitter, or "ionospheric heater," [X-ray] .. Using HAARP our military plans to .. "see" into the Earth, detecting anything from oil reserves to underground missile silos.
http://www.undergroundarchives.net/download/haarp-advanced_tesla_technology.ram
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Are we making Holes in Heaven? H.A.A.R.P. (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) is a controversial high frequency radio transmitter, or "ionospheric heater," [X-ray] .. Using HAARP our military plans to .. "see" into the Earth, detecting anything from oil reserves to underground missile silos.
http://www.undergroundarchives.net/download/haarp-advanced_tesla_technology.ram
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http://jbie.blogspot.com/
Well don't you think it's a little weird that after the tsunami the Indonisain goverment wanted americans out as soon as possible, so what happened? They got another earthquake.
compliments from weather wars.
The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction:
"Owning the Weather" for Military Use
by Michel Chossudovsky
I beleive they are after our water supply.
They have to have a crisis, then a solution, then control.
MDG (Milennium Developmental Goal) under the United Nation thier goal is to:
Reduce by half the proportion of people living on less than a dollar a day
Reduce by half the proportion of people who suffer from hunger
http://www.un.org/english/
The United Nation Water for Life Organizations goals:
to halve by 2015 the proportion of people who are unable to reach, or to afford, safe drinking water.
to stop the unsustainable exploitation of water resources, by developing water management strategies
at the regional, national and local levels, which promote both equitable access and adequate supplies.
http://www.irc.nl/content/view/full/7...HYPERLINK "http://tm.wc.ask.com/r?t=c&s=a&id=30787&sv=z6f537209&uid=0F8E77BF46DB08124&sid=10DF9E3498A45A424&p=%2ftop&o=0&u=http://www.unesco.org/water/wwap/wwdr/index.shtml"..
http://www.unesco.org/water/water_celebrations/decades/water_for_life.pdf
WMO (World Meteorological Organization) under the United Nations,
For the first time ever the state of Idaho is buying back water right from farmers
due to drought.
compliments from weather wars.
The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction:
"Owning the Weather" for Military Use
by Michel Chossudovsky
I beleive they are after our water supply.
They have to have a crisis, then a solution, then control.
MDG (Milennium Developmental Goal) under the United Nation thier goal is to:
Reduce by half the proportion of people living on less than a dollar a day
Reduce by half the proportion of people who suffer from hunger
http://www.un.org/english/
The United Nation Water for Life Organizations goals:
to halve by 2015 the proportion of people who are unable to reach, or to afford, safe drinking water.
to stop the unsustainable exploitation of water resources, by developing water management strategies
at the regional, national and local levels, which promote both equitable access and adequate supplies.
http://www.irc.nl/content/view/full/7...HYPERLINK "http://tm.wc.ask.com/r?t=c&s=a&id=30787&sv=z6f537209&uid=0F8E77BF46DB08124&sid=10DF9E3498A45A424&p=%2ftop&o=0&u=http://www.unesco.org/water/wwap/wwdr/index.shtml"..
http://www.unesco.org/water/water_celebrations/decades/water_for_life.pdf
WMO (World Meteorological Organization) under the United Nations,
For the first time ever the state of Idaho is buying back water right from farmers
due to drought.
There are some basic principles of physics you should try to stretch your brains around, like conservation of energy, for one. To produce such an effect would require an energetic input on the order of the effect, disregarding preexisting tectonic strain. Even with that, the required input would be incredible. So HAARP is transmitting the energy of 100+ H-bombs, huh?
Electromagnetism and magnetism are D-I-F-F-E-R-E-N-T. Electromagnetism is the spectrum of photonic emissions. Even gamma rays, the most energetic end of that spectrum, cannot penetrate miles into the earth's crust. Besides it would need line of sight. MAGNETIC field lines do pass through the entire earth, but to produce such an effect from northern Canada, such a field would turn steel objects everywhere on earth into bullets.
It's just sickening that people believe shit like this. Chemtrails too. It says two things: 1) the U.S. education system is a total failure 2) people are just hopelessly stupid and civilization is doomed to crack up on the shoals of that stupidity
Electromagnetism and magnetism are D-I-F-F-E-R-E-N-T. Electromagnetism is the spectrum of photonic emissions. Even gamma rays, the most energetic end of that spectrum, cannot penetrate miles into the earth's crust. Besides it would need line of sight. MAGNETIC field lines do pass through the entire earth, but to produce such an effect from northern Canada, such a field would turn steel objects everywhere on earth into bullets.
It's just sickening that people believe shit like this. Chemtrails too. It says two things: 1) the U.S. education system is a total failure 2) people are just hopelessly stupid and civilization is doomed to crack up on the shoals of that stupidity
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