SHATNER'S "HAS BEEN" CD WITH SPECIAL SUPER-BONUS!

William Shatner would still be singing in Canada if you damn yankees hadden't stole him from us! an act of war in my opinion!

You stole William Shatner? PLEASE! Keep him. I did not write this post.

you can't believe what you read, click here.

and if you can't control it, sabotage someone else's.

all this and more on the new hit album from
the pointer sisters: nessie, angie and history-buffie

The "point" is, with all his experience, nessie is more interested in his opinion than having an open forum

http://sfgate.com/

You have to wonder why nessie doesn't spend more time howling about them. But hey, if you read sfgate and love 'em, ga 'head.

Especially their editorial department. Check out Debra Saunders and Ken Garcia. Oh and them there's Phil Bronstein who took a reporter off the gay marriage story because she married her lesbian partner. Yeah we can rely on them, to be sure.

saunders and garcia don't pretend like their opinions are the news.

nor do their editors remove everything from the paper that suanders and garcia disagree with.

nor do they pick fights regularly with other like media outlets about how they decide what to run.

"the weekly world news discredits all print journalism. is that what you want? i am very smart. signed, mr bronstein."

even that shmuch isn't that deluded.

from another thread here, but courtesy of the fine reporters at the Chronic. If you like it go ahead and pay your quarter. I use it to keep the seat dry on the bus when it rains.


Armed with automatic weapons, high-profile SWAT teams patrol BART trains. Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer, Saturday, October 23, 2004

"...No specific threats have been reported to BART or any other transit agency, but authorities don't want to take any chances, said BART Police Chief Gary Gee. "For months, there has been a national security concern that a terrorist attack will disrupt the upcoming elections," Gee said.

...Franklin used the muzzle of his rifle at one point to look under a pile of newspapers on a seat. "Is that yours?" Wong asked a bearded man, who looked at a green bag on a train seat and nodded. As a train hurtled toward San Francisco, Wong asked the same question of Antonio Nieves, 55, of Oakland. "It's my lunch," Nieves said sheepishly of a plastic bag sitting at his feet.

"I think these guys are doing a pretty good job," Nieves said.

At the Balboa Park station, Joel Mansfield, 22, of San Francisco doffed his hat at the sergeants. "It's good to see you out here," he told them.

...BART train operator Heidi Quinonez, 31, riding to the San Francisco airport, said the patrols are comforting. "I know they're looking for suspicious people or suspicious packages," she said. "It feels safe." ...

and then the machine guns? or like that gas in tokyo thing?

no thanks. people i care about have to ride those things...

really, there are armed patrols in europe, and it's not inherently oppressive. the real problem (in america anyways) is cracker cops with white-superiority complexes, and everyone knows it. and that problem exists, whatever the cops are carrying.

the conflation of issues does not contribute anything to understanding or solutions. it does however, add to the self-righteousness of your propagandistic intervention, and thanks for that.

Live in fear eh? Weapons are the order of the day? All right then, so what kind of piece are you packing?

Transit is sooo dangerous. But what about big trucks- they could have fertilizer explosives! What about bicycles- they could rigged as pipe bombs! BART to the airport- why that's just asking for trouble!

seriously, what is your solution? here's your chance to distinguish your ideas on a global stage. how do we secure the trains without armed force?

or should we just rely on the "whose bag" thing, and the warm fuzzy feeling that you are somehow inherently superior in intent to the vice president? (as if that is any sort of achievement)

pray tell.

where's that smart, snappy answer, hmm?

we're waiting for a solution. who will keep us safe without guns or armies? how will we defend our homes and loved ones without the armed might of the state?

come, everyone wants an answer, and you've been practicing your whole life. so just give us an answer, now. your objection to guns on the trains is noted. what is your alternative for securing BART at rush hour?

we let the cops secure the trains with armed patrols while you work it out meanwhile.

all considered.

and we aren't glued to the little screen as you seem to be.

You don't really seem to have any response to my question except to say, that in Europe there is terrorism and armed patrols are just darned fine. Well that's golly gee. But really, as Oklahoma City demonstrated, and as 9/11 demonstrated, all it takes is:

A.someone with a parking space and a knowledge of fertilizer, or
B. someone who carries a box cutter and knows how to use it.

Why does this heightened sense of security need to take place during the election we might want to ask? And who is really wielding the fear tactics now? And why? Too many questions, I know, I know.

Fear the terrorists and scare the tourists. Great for the economy. Keep up the good work supporting our lightly trained, heavily armed BART cops. Lets hope no one gets trigger-happy. The SFPD never has that problem (unless fajitas are at stake, hee hee!).

your alternative.

maybe you don't have one.

you know, the madrid thing was election-related.

Does it turn you on? It seems to. It sure seems to turn all the passengers in that Chronicle article (which by the way you had nothing to say about). The passenger in this picture didn't seem to like the big fire power all that much. Huh, that's funny in't it?

Maybe you liked the crotch sniffing dogs brought on a few years back too. But which did you like better? We're taking an informal poll here.

tell me, do you like piles of carnage?

or does it depend on who's the victim, hmm?

bother? hmmm?

do you? silly me. 'night nessie

that security and democracy are antithecal?

do tell, which planet do you live on?

planet ideologica?

if not be specific why. we ALL want to hear it again.

i rather prefer elections to the alternative.

now, answer my question: how do we secure public places without arms? in your vision of a secure yet open society, that is....

or as some people like to say: Achtung! Achtung!

Bill is heavily armed, but he loves to sign an autograph as he pokes your lunch bag. Just ask him nicely, and for chrissakes, don't say anything about Nimoy.

It survived the millenium, it survived 9/11, it survives every depressed sad person that jumps on the tracks. The Golden Gate Bridge is a far more prestigious target. And it's all a target as long as we go around interfering where we don't really belong. But now you answer my question.

Do you think this will discourage people from riding transit, or just voting?

because you have no vision of your own. no answer to the question. no clue as regards modern insecurity. you, in fact, have no side in the debate, and so cede the entire question.

that is, btw, a height of irresponsibility. it cedes the entire question to the right wing (of whatever party), and reduces you yourself to defensive silence and blame-shifting when bad things do happen to innocent people-- whether it's occasional, like in europe, or routine like in palestine/israel.

no guns, no walls, but hey, no skin off your nose. just tsk about how bad the state is, in your ideological self-superiority, while others suffer the consequences of inaction, indecision, and unpreparedness-- and then the militarization reaction when the inevitable, small clique of wingnuts (sounds familiar, huh?), do end up hurting a bunch of people. i suppose you think the local, groovy vibes will protect us from armed crazies of whatever ideological delusion.

what selfish losers.

you little hothead.

i predict that most people will feel more secure for their presence, both in their routine commute and on transit.

it's only magical-thinking people like you, projecting your own fantasies of self-importance onto the situation, who will be bothered by it.

too bad you don't have anything to offer by way of other ideas, but whatn else is new.

while you whine about cops on BART and the futility of voting.

speaking of hotheads.

and so elucidating. Thanks for the clarity and this lovely opportunity to have a dialogue with you this evening. I just have to love this great country of ours, as I hug our armed BART troops, seeking every lunch bag for danger, and every suspicious looking bum for the bottle in his bag.

Meanwhile, I can rest assured that the terrorists who cross the bridges in the Bay Area every day will travel unmolested to their destination. Each and every one of them, filled with the smug satisfying sense that they have blood -er oil from Iraq in their 19mpg tanks.

It's a great country we live in. God bless our president and Bill Shatner.

where the fuck you can take a whiz on BART? I'm in the tube right now, and I can't hold it much longer. If it comes to it, I'll piss on the SWAT team and then run for my life.

armed guards at either end of the bridges. talk about useless.

but you still haven't shared with us your vision of an alternative. are we so wrong to assume that means you don't have one, or are you just playing hard-to-dialogue-with?

I would use Dr. Strangelove as the basic model. Considering how in control of heated situations our military and our police can be. And I think you know what I mean.

cops on bart (wait we already had those....)

cops with machine guns on bart, is like the nuclear brinksmanship of the cold war.

woo-hoo, tin foil hat time.

let me think... well you haven't got any courage, that much is clear.