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A PERSONAL REPORT-BACK FROM THE S.F. PALESTINIAN HUMAN RIGHTS CONFERENCE - Joseph Anderson
"This isn't *Israel*", I said! A crowd -- Palestinians, Jews, and non-Jews -- *ALL* of us -- women and men -- young and old -- students and nonstudents -- standing together -- for human rights -- stood up to the ZioNazis and against oppression -- and *blocked* the entrance and their way.
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October 2nd, Saturday: All-Day Conference on Palestinian Human Rights
"THE STRUGGLE FOR PALESTINE"---"4th ANNIVERSARY OF THE INTIFADA"
Oct. 2nd, Saturday, from 9 am - 9 pm
At the Horace Mann Middle School, in the Mission District,
San Francisco.
Sponsored by The Justice in Palestine Coalition -- a group of progressive organizations who have come together to work for a free Palestine.
Palestine is still THE issue!
Strong speakers (women & men), workshops, classes, and lots of tables with lots of literature and videos.
THE CONFERENCE WAS *HIGHLY* SUCCESSFUL!
There were many people in attendance, including many Jews, as well as Palestinians and other human rights people of coscience.
There were lots of high school and middle school kids in attendance, many of them Jewish.
There were also, unfortunately, some Zionist 'Jewish skinheads' with their apartheid Israeli flags who tried to crash the conference.
And more Jewish klansmen yelling from across the street with their sea of Israeli flags (and a few American flags)
-- Just like Southern 'Christian' klansmen yelling and waving their Confederate and American flags across from Black freedom fighters and their allies.
We told them *in no uncertain terms* that they were *NOT* coming in.
The police came to separate the ZioNazi klansmen from us.
The rednect Jews with their Israeli and American flags tried to persuade one bulldog-looking cop to let a couple of them in.
The cop at first agreed, declaring our conference to be a public event.
I've had plenty of experience with bulldogs *and* pigs.
I said to the cop, "Whoa!! This isn't open to the Jewish klansmen just because *you* declare it's "a public event" and therefore "open" to them!
The bulldog cop sait that it was and that he was going to escort a couple of the skinhead Jews into the conference.
I said, "No way! This isn't *Israel*!!"
I said that the television media there -- right in front of them -- would *twist* it and make it look like the police were escorting those (ZoiNazi) Jews to protect them from us, rather than to protect us from *them*, and not even mention that that there were plenty of Jews attending the conference.
I told the bulldog cop that "Your actions don't fly just because *you* say that it's legal, and I got on the phone -- practically in the bulldog cops face -- to consult with three attorney friends of mine (one of them Jewish).
(We also had an attorney there, as well as other conference officials and official spokespersons caucusing, consulting, and liasoning -- but the more attorneys of conscience on our side, the better.)
One Palestinian said that, "Our community -- including Palestinians, Jews, and non-Jews -- would not be safe with those skinheads coming inside."
I pointed out to the cop that the Palestinian was a prominent University of San Francisco professor, well-known and highly-regarded throughout the Bay Area. --Just to be sure that cop knew who he was dealing with.
The Palestinian proffessor rightly pointed out that it would be like forcing the NAACP to let the KKK, under police escort, into an NAACP conference.
We all -- especially one particularly cool and strong Palestinian conference official -- finally bluntly told the bulldog cop, "We've made a *decision*: they [the white ZioNazi skinheads (my, JA, words)] are *NOT* coming in. Do what you gotta do."
A crowd -- Palestinians, Jews, and non-Jews -- *ALL* of us -- women and men -- young and old -- standing together -- for human rights -- stood up to the ZioNazis and against oppression -- and *blocked* the entrance and their way.
The bulldog cop called his handler captain back at the station.
The cop's captain came out from back at the station.
THE COP'S CAPTAIN GAVE IN.
TOLD THE BULLDOG TO *HEEL*!!
THE BULLDOG BACKED DOWN.
PEOPLE POWER!! -- BLOCKED UNCONSCIONABLE GOVERMENT POWER.
WE WON.
October 2nd, Saturday: All-Day Conference on Palestinian Human Rights
"THE STRUGGLE FOR PALESTINE"---"4th ANNIVERSARY OF THE INTIFADA"
Oct. 2nd, Saturday, from 9 am - 9 pm
At the Horace Mann Middle School, in the Mission District,
San Francisco.
Sponsored by The Justice in Palestine Coalition -- a group of progressive organizations who have come together to work for a free Palestine.
Palestine is still THE issue!
Strong speakers (women & men), workshops, classes, and lots of tables with lots of literature and videos.
THE CONFERENCE WAS *HIGHLY* SUCCESSFUL!
There were many people in attendance, including many Jews, as well as Palestinians and other human rights people of coscience.
There were lots of high school and middle school kids in attendance, many of them Jewish.
There were also, unfortunately, some Zionist 'Jewish skinheads' with their apartheid Israeli flags who tried to crash the conference.
And more Jewish klansmen yelling from across the street with their sea of Israeli flags (and a few American flags)
-- Just like Southern 'Christian' klansmen yelling and waving their Confederate and American flags across from Black freedom fighters and their allies.
We told them *in no uncertain terms* that they were *NOT* coming in.
The police came to separate the ZioNazi klansmen from us.
The rednect Jews with their Israeli and American flags tried to persuade one bulldog-looking cop to let a couple of them in.
The cop at first agreed, declaring our conference to be a public event.
I've had plenty of experience with bulldogs *and* pigs.
I said to the cop, "Whoa!! This isn't open to the Jewish klansmen just because *you* declare it's "a public event" and therefore "open" to them!
The bulldog cop sait that it was and that he was going to escort a couple of the skinhead Jews into the conference.
I said, "No way! This isn't *Israel*!!"
I said that the television media there -- right in front of them -- would *twist* it and make it look like the police were escorting those (ZoiNazi) Jews to protect them from us, rather than to protect us from *them*, and not even mention that that there were plenty of Jews attending the conference.
I told the bulldog cop that "Your actions don't fly just because *you* say that it's legal, and I got on the phone -- practically in the bulldog cops face -- to consult with three attorney friends of mine (one of them Jewish).
(We also had an attorney there, as well as other conference officials and official spokespersons caucusing, consulting, and liasoning -- but the more attorneys of conscience on our side, the better.)
One Palestinian said that, "Our community -- including Palestinians, Jews, and non-Jews -- would not be safe with those skinheads coming inside."
I pointed out to the cop that the Palestinian was a prominent University of San Francisco professor, well-known and highly-regarded throughout the Bay Area. --Just to be sure that cop knew who he was dealing with.
The Palestinian proffessor rightly pointed out that it would be like forcing the NAACP to let the KKK, under police escort, into an NAACP conference.
We all -- especially one particularly cool and strong Palestinian conference official -- finally bluntly told the bulldog cop, "We've made a *decision*: they [the white ZioNazi skinheads (my, JA, words)] are *NOT* coming in. Do what you gotta do."
A crowd -- Palestinians, Jews, and non-Jews -- *ALL* of us -- women and men -- young and old -- standing together -- for human rights -- stood up to the ZioNazis and against oppression -- and *blocked* the entrance and their way.
The bulldog cop called his handler captain back at the station.
The cop's captain came out from back at the station.
THE COP'S CAPTAIN GAVE IN.
TOLD THE BULLDOG TO *HEEL*!!
THE BULLDOG BACKED DOWN.
PEOPLE POWER!! -- BLOCKED UNCONSCIONABLE GOVERMENT POWER.
WE WON.
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"The rednect Jews with their Israeli and American flags.."
I meant those particular "*REDNECK* JEWS" [ just like Southern white redneck 'Christians'].
I meant those particular "*REDNECK* JEWS" [ just like Southern white redneck 'Christians'].
KRON-TV, Channel 4, news gave the conference good coverage this Sunday morning at approximately 9:30am.
But, of course, KRON 4 only referred to "local Jewish groups" -- instead of saying "local Zionist groups" -- who opposed the conference; this, while *NOT* mentioning that there were organized "local Jewish groups" present there who stood with and *SUPPORT* the conference.
Fortunately, KRON 4 did show one of the conference spokespersons, Jamie Spector of "Jews for a Free Palestine", in a featured comment.
But, of course, KRON 4 only referred to "local Jewish groups" -- instead of saying "local Zionist groups" -- who opposed the conference; this, while *NOT* mentioning that there were organized "local Jewish groups" present there who stood with and *SUPPORT* the conference.
Fortunately, KRON 4 did show one of the conference spokespersons, Jamie Spector of "Jews for a Free Palestine", in a featured comment.
"Jewish rednecks", "Jewish skinheads", "ZioNazis", and other socially, politically, and historically analogous terms are *MY* terms (or some other non-Jews' and Jews') and *NOT* those of, or quoted from, any Palestinian spokespersons, professors and, otherwise, conference organizers.
BULLDOG JA
JAredneck
JAskinhead
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Could you give me more material? I am about to run out of it.
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Could you give me more material? I am about to run out of it.
I think it's more constructive to show respect for policemen and policewomen and give them the benefit of the doubt. To call them all "pigs" is a form of "racism" because you are not taking each one as an individual. Personally, I have met some very nice cops. They are more likely to treat you with respect if you treat them with respect as is the case with anyone. And the cops have come in handy for me in fighting off the ZioNazis in the past and others who don't agree with my politics.
They're a giveaway of his hateful and racist worldview. Don' forget he quoted or paraphrased some of Luois Farakhan's bile at the Jewish leftis conference on he problem of anti-Semitism within the Left's ranks. Needles to remind that he will always resort to the excuse that some Jews use some of them too.
Yes.
Now I don't have much time. But I don't retreat. I am really enjoying this site.
When you go to the other site, I will tell you something. So you can see I don't get afraid.
Now I don't have much time. But I don't retreat. I am really enjoying this site.
When you go to the other site, I will tell you something. So you can see I don't get afraid.
My post above should read:
Why, of course those terms are JA's
by Critical Thinker Monday, Oct. 04, 2004 at 4:11 AM
They're a giveaway of his hateful and racist worldview. Don't forget he quoted or paraphrased some of Luois Farakhan's bile at the Jewish leftist conference on the problem of anti-Semitism within the Left's ranks. Needles to remind that he will always resort to the excuse that some Jews use some of them too.
P.S.: to Sefarad: nice to hear from you. I'll go there in a while.
Why, of course those terms are JA's
by Critical Thinker Monday, Oct. 04, 2004 at 4:11 AM
They're a giveaway of his hateful and racist worldview. Don't forget he quoted or paraphrased some of Luois Farakhan's bile at the Jewish leftist conference on the problem of anti-Semitism within the Left's ranks. Needles to remind that he will always resort to the excuse that some Jews use some of them too.
P.S.: to Sefarad: nice to hear from you. I'll go there in a while.
I'm here again.
"pointer
by not all cops are bad, they're just people too Sunday, Oct. 03, 2004 at 9:40 PM."
MAYBE WHEN *COPS* START TREATING BLACK PEOPLE AS "JUST PEOPLE", I'LL START BELIEVING YOU.
YOU'VE GOT BLINDERS ON. ASK AMADOU DIALLO, ABNER LOUIMA, RODNEY KING, AND COUNTLESS OTHERS IN NOTORIOUS, VIDEOTAPED, FORGOTTEN AND UNKNOWN CASES WHETHER "COPS ARE JUST PEOPLE -- JUST LIKE US!" IN THE MEANTIME, DON'T COME UP TO ME WITH THAT SHIT -- NO MATTER HOW NAIVELY WELL-MEANING YOU ARE.
EVEN COLIN POWELL ONCE SAID THAT IF HE TOOK OFF HIS SUIT AND PUT ON STREET CLOTHES, A BASEBALL CAP, AND SUNGLASSES, AND WENT WALKING THROUGH A BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT HE WOULD PROBABLY EVENTUALLY BECOME AT LEAST A CASUAL VICTIM OF POLICE ABUSE OR PROFILING.
The point is not whether all cops are bad cops (and the rarest ones who might not be still *cover* for bad cops), the point is that they can treat Black, Latino, Asian, & Middle Eastern people (and slowly but increasingly, even whites) however they want to (consider how the Bosnian man in the San Jose was killed). The point is that the police *CULTURE* is *INSTITUTIONALLY* and *SYSTEMATICALLY* racist (no matter what color or gender the cop is) and sexist (and even misogynist). So, don't come up to me with your experientially-limited, well-intentioned *BULLSHIT*, because you wouldn't intellectually stand a chance.
BESIDES, DO YOU THINK THAT COPS WOULD HAVE EVER **DARED** TRIED TO FORCE-ESCORT EXPLICIT ANTI-ZIONISTS INTO A *ZIONIST* JEWISH CONFERENCE!? --MAYBE, IF YOUR *HALLUCINATING*
"I think it's more constructive to show respect for policemen and policewomen and give them the benefit of the doubt."
EVERYTIME WE BLACKS DO, ONE OF OUR LOVED ONES ENDS UP *DEAD*.
"To call them all "pigs" is a form of "racism" because you are not taking each one as an individual."
THAT'S **BULLSHIT**. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT "RACISM" IS. DON'T YOU DARE COMPARE COPS TO MULTIGENERATIONALLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY OPPRESSED, OFTEN BRUTALIZED, OR INSTITUTIONALLY DISENFRANCHISED, RACIAL/ETHNIC COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. THAT OUGHT TO BE AN INSULT TO YOUR OWN 'INTELLIGENCE'.
IT'S OFFENSIVE -- AND IT'S *RACIST* IN ITS OWN RIGHT. THIS IS SO, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE''VE BEEN EXPERIENCING SINCE WE GOT OFF -- OR WERE TAKEN OFF -- THE SHIPS -- OR WERE "DISCOVERED" HERE IN AMERICA.
"Personally, I have met some very nice cops."
GOODY FOR YOU.
"They are more likely to treat you with respect if you treat them with respect as is the case with anyone."
AND DO THEY COME HELP GET CATS OUT OF TREES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELP SMALL SCHOOL CHILDREN AND LITTLE OLD LADIES ACROSS THE STREET? DO PEOPLE SAY, "WHY, *HELLO*, OFFICER FRIENDLY!," AND GIVE THEM FRESH APPLES OR LEMONADE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD?
DO PEOPLE IN *YOUR* NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL IN *MORE* OR **LESS** DANGER WHEN THEY SEE LOTS OF COPS AROUND? THAT WILL TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN *YOUR* EXPERIENCE AND **BLACKS**.
Look, I don't mean to be overly harsh to you, so you need to go talk to someone with more verbal patience for you in this instance (you're trying to come to a doctoral 'class' with a kindergarten education).
Go talk to Andrea Pritchard of CopWatch in Berkeley (she's white, so you might tend to believe her more); Go talk to Malaika Parker -- *obviously* intelligent, quite presentable, and well-spoken -- (or one of her white colleagues if you would still believe them more) at Bay Area Police Watch at the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights in San Francisco.
Or go to the Diop Jamal's (google) "Police Complaint Center" website (started in L.A., but now based in Miami, with lawsuit money he got for being 'beaten up' by an L.A. cop in a private sting operation with an unmarked NBC newsvan parked nearby); started by a former L.A. cop -- who's father was a sheriff's deputy (who was humilitated in front of his grandchildren and forced to lie on the ground when he was stopped for driving while Black in civilian clothes). And its part of their jobs to be patient, anyway.
Go read about my *minor* experience (among more significant ones not described) in the thread PERSONAL REPORT-BACK FROM THE OAKLAND "ANTI-SEMITISM" CONFERENCE.
BUT LET ANDREA AND MALAIKA GET YOU PAST "SEE JANE RUN".
"And the cops have come in handy for me in fighting off the ZioNazis in the past and others who don't agree with my politics."
THAT'S ' *VERY* NICE '. BUT THE COPS AT THE PALESTINIAN CONFERENCE ONLY BACKED DOWN BECAUSE WE -- AS A GROUP -- STOOD UP TO THEM AND TOLD THEM *NO*!!
by not all cops are bad, they're just people too Sunday, Oct. 03, 2004 at 9:40 PM."
MAYBE WHEN *COPS* START TREATING BLACK PEOPLE AS "JUST PEOPLE", I'LL START BELIEVING YOU.
YOU'VE GOT BLINDERS ON. ASK AMADOU DIALLO, ABNER LOUIMA, RODNEY KING, AND COUNTLESS OTHERS IN NOTORIOUS, VIDEOTAPED, FORGOTTEN AND UNKNOWN CASES WHETHER "COPS ARE JUST PEOPLE -- JUST LIKE US!" IN THE MEANTIME, DON'T COME UP TO ME WITH THAT SHIT -- NO MATTER HOW NAIVELY WELL-MEANING YOU ARE.
EVEN COLIN POWELL ONCE SAID THAT IF HE TOOK OFF HIS SUIT AND PUT ON STREET CLOTHES, A BASEBALL CAP, AND SUNGLASSES, AND WENT WALKING THROUGH A BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT HE WOULD PROBABLY EVENTUALLY BECOME AT LEAST A CASUAL VICTIM OF POLICE ABUSE OR PROFILING.
The point is not whether all cops are bad cops (and the rarest ones who might not be still *cover* for bad cops), the point is that they can treat Black, Latino, Asian, & Middle Eastern people (and slowly but increasingly, even whites) however they want to (consider how the Bosnian man in the San Jose was killed). The point is that the police *CULTURE* is *INSTITUTIONALLY* and *SYSTEMATICALLY* racist (no matter what color or gender the cop is) and sexist (and even misogynist). So, don't come up to me with your experientially-limited, well-intentioned *BULLSHIT*, because you wouldn't intellectually stand a chance.
BESIDES, DO YOU THINK THAT COPS WOULD HAVE EVER **DARED** TRIED TO FORCE-ESCORT EXPLICIT ANTI-ZIONISTS INTO A *ZIONIST* JEWISH CONFERENCE!? --MAYBE, IF YOUR *HALLUCINATING*
"I think it's more constructive to show respect for policemen and policewomen and give them the benefit of the doubt."
EVERYTIME WE BLACKS DO, ONE OF OUR LOVED ONES ENDS UP *DEAD*.
"To call them all "pigs" is a form of "racism" because you are not taking each one as an individual."
THAT'S **BULLSHIT**. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT "RACISM" IS. DON'T YOU DARE COMPARE COPS TO MULTIGENERATIONALLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY OPPRESSED, OFTEN BRUTALIZED, OR INSTITUTIONALLY DISENFRANCHISED, RACIAL/ETHNIC COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. THAT OUGHT TO BE AN INSULT TO YOUR OWN 'INTELLIGENCE'.
IT'S OFFENSIVE -- AND IT'S *RACIST* IN ITS OWN RIGHT. THIS IS SO, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE''VE BEEN EXPERIENCING SINCE WE GOT OFF -- OR WERE TAKEN OFF -- THE SHIPS -- OR WERE "DISCOVERED" HERE IN AMERICA.
"Personally, I have met some very nice cops."
GOODY FOR YOU.
"They are more likely to treat you with respect if you treat them with respect as is the case with anyone."
AND DO THEY COME HELP GET CATS OUT OF TREES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELP SMALL SCHOOL CHILDREN AND LITTLE OLD LADIES ACROSS THE STREET? DO PEOPLE SAY, "WHY, *HELLO*, OFFICER FRIENDLY!," AND GIVE THEM FRESH APPLES OR LEMONADE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD?
DO PEOPLE IN *YOUR* NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL IN *MORE* OR **LESS** DANGER WHEN THEY SEE LOTS OF COPS AROUND? THAT WILL TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN *YOUR* EXPERIENCE AND **BLACKS**.
Look, I don't mean to be overly harsh to you, so you need to go talk to someone with more verbal patience for you in this instance (you're trying to come to a doctoral 'class' with a kindergarten education).
Go talk to Andrea Pritchard of CopWatch in Berkeley (she's white, so you might tend to believe her more); Go talk to Malaika Parker -- *obviously* intelligent, quite presentable, and well-spoken -- (or one of her white colleagues if you would still believe them more) at Bay Area Police Watch at the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights in San Francisco.
Or go to the Diop Jamal's (google) "Police Complaint Center" website (started in L.A., but now based in Miami, with lawsuit money he got for being 'beaten up' by an L.A. cop in a private sting operation with an unmarked NBC newsvan parked nearby); started by a former L.A. cop -- who's father was a sheriff's deputy (who was humilitated in front of his grandchildren and forced to lie on the ground when he was stopped for driving while Black in civilian clothes). And its part of their jobs to be patient, anyway.
Go read about my *minor* experience (among more significant ones not described) in the thread PERSONAL REPORT-BACK FROM THE OAKLAND "ANTI-SEMITISM" CONFERENCE.
BUT LET ANDREA AND MALAIKA GET YOU PAST "SEE JANE RUN".
"And the cops have come in handy for me in fighting off the ZioNazis in the past and others who don't agree with my politics."
THAT'S ' *VERY* NICE '. BUT THE COPS AT THE PALESTINIAN CONFERENCE ONLY BACKED DOWN BECAUSE WE -- AS A GROUP -- STOOD UP TO THEM AND TOLD THEM *NO*!!
AND ONE DAY HARDLY ANYBODY MIGHT BELIEVE THAT ANTI-JEWISH ANTI-SEMITISM CAN EXIST AT ALL!:
THE GREATEST POTENTIAL DANGER TO JEWS AND THE GREATEST COVER FOR THOSE WHO HATE JEWS MERELY FOR BEING JEWS.
THE GREATEST POTENTIAL DANGER TO JEWS AND THE GREATEST COVER FOR THOSE WHO HATE JEWS MERELY FOR BEING JEWS.
So, I decided to look on Indybay for a fun report about the conference on Saturday knowing that SF Voice for Israel was there too...
Much to my disappointment, all I find is this lame article!! What? No pictures?? No personal attacks on my favorite Big Gay Jew Dan Kliman?? No pictures of him or quotes from his father's obituary??
All we get is this name calling comparing Jews to skinheads and the KKK. (weak) And a reference to Jews as "rednecks" which wasn't even spelled correctly. (Besides which, I bet a lot of rednecks would be highly offended by being compared to Jews!)
You guys are slipping... I rely on this site for quality entertainment, and I'm sad to say, I was highly disappointed this morning.
Guess I'll have to go find my copy of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion to read while I'm having my morning shit...
Much to my disappointment, all I find is this lame article!! What? No pictures?? No personal attacks on my favorite Big Gay Jew Dan Kliman?? No pictures of him or quotes from his father's obituary??
All we get is this name calling comparing Jews to skinheads and the KKK. (weak) And a reference to Jews as "rednecks" which wasn't even spelled correctly. (Besides which, I bet a lot of rednecks would be highly offended by being compared to Jews!)
You guys are slipping... I rely on this site for quality entertainment, and I'm sad to say, I was highly disappointed this morning.
Guess I'll have to go find my copy of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion to read while I'm having my morning shit...
You call cops names because, as you say, they mistreat blacks (and others). And what happens when the cops are black? Do they do the same?
I hope you have no problem (being attacked by a criminal or whatever). It must be most humilating to receive help from those cops you hate so much.
I hope you have no problem (being attacked by a criminal or whatever). It must be most humilating to receive help from those cops you hate so much.
Anyone in power can be racist or fascist. To suggest that no Jews can be racist (like non-Jewish rednecks or non-Jewish klansmen) -- while other people can be (in fact, while Zionists claim that non-Jews will *ALL* *ALWAYS AND FOREVER* be at least latent/secret/subconscious anti-Jewish anti-Semites) -- is itself racist. Blacks don't even say that about whites!! In fact, it was no less than Albert Einstein and Hannah Arendt -- among other internationally prominent Jews -- who explicitly called some ZIONISTS (notably future Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, in their formal letter published in the New York Times) *both* "RACIST" *and* "FASCIST".
I know that any kind of people can be racist, in power or out of it.
As for the Jews, you also hate so much, I am for them, because they are being attacked, and there are many people defending the terrorists who kill them.
As for the Jews, you also hate so much, I am for them, because they are being attacked, and there are many people defending the terrorists who kill them.
An observation. You say anyone in power can be a racist or a fascist.
My observation is:
Not in a democratic country, where they cannot behave like that.
My observation is:
Not in a democratic country, where they cannot behave like that.
It pains me to say it sefarad, but you're an idiot.
Thanks, Aaron, couldn´t have said it more bluntly myself!
As for Sefarad, try sometime to ... see farther ahead ... before you open your ignorant mouth.
Care to name that "democratic" country for us?
Surely I hope you don´t mean "Israel". Their leader is a known wanted war criminal who cannot travel safely abroad due to being arrested on sight....
Or, the good old USA, where their "leader" was not even elected in an impartial election, but was forced on an apathetic and stupefied consumerist society by an "impartial" court of his own peers....
Sorry, Sefarad, although I am confident (I want to be) Aaron really means that your "statements" are the comments of idiocy, you do in fact seem rather hasty, given your miniscule knowledge of historical and social fact.
As for Sefarad, try sometime to ... see farther ahead ... before you open your ignorant mouth.
Care to name that "democratic" country for us?
Surely I hope you don´t mean "Israel". Their leader is a known wanted war criminal who cannot travel safely abroad due to being arrested on sight....
Or, the good old USA, where their "leader" was not even elected in an impartial election, but was forced on an apathetic and stupefied consumerist society by an "impartial" court of his own peers....
Sorry, Sefarad, although I am confident (I want to be) Aaron really means that your "statements" are the comments of idiocy, you do in fact seem rather hasty, given your miniscule knowledge of historical and social fact.
You are an idiot.
(And that doesn't pain me because it is your business)
The previous post could also be your portrait.
I've never made a habit of lying. Folks like you seem all too eager to do that amply, though.
>>>"AND ONE DAY HARDLY ANYBODY MIGHT BELIEVE THAT ANTI-JEWISH ANTI-SEMITISM CAN EXIST AT ALL!: "<<<
A statement just as moronic and exaggerated as nessie's most outlandish arguments.
The only anti-Semitism IS anti-Jewish.
>>>"AND ONE DAY HARDLY ANYBODY MIGHT BELIEVE THAT ANTI-JEWISH ANTI-SEMITISM CAN EXIST AT ALL!: "<<<
A statement just as moronic and exaggerated as nessie's most outlandish arguments.
The only anti-Semitism IS anti-Jewish.
ignorant
consumerist
his "statements" are the comments of idiocy
lacks knowledge of historical and social facts
>>>"in fact, while Zionists claim that non-Jews will *ALL* *ALWAYS AND FOREVER* be at least latent/secret/subconscious anti-Jewish anti-Semites)"<<<
JA has never been loath to such divisive generalization.
JA has never been loath to such divisive generalization.
>>>"[Sharon] is a known wanted war criminal who cannot travel safely abroad due to being arrested on sight....
This isn't true anymore, though selectively ignorant "yokels" like Sprye have yet to hear it. The Belgian parliament is in the process of rescinding (if it hasn't already rescinded) the law that enabled a Belgian court to prosecute Sharon, therefore Sharon isn't under the threat of arrest even in Belgium.
>>>"Or, the good old USA, where their "leader" was not even elected in an impartial election, but was forced on an apathetic and stupefied consumerist society by an "impartial" court of his own peers...."<<<
If the same process had elevated Gore to power, would Sprye be whining about "lack of impartiallity"? Don't bet on it.
This isn't true anymore, though selectively ignorant "yokels" like Sprye have yet to hear it. The Belgian parliament is in the process of rescinding (if it hasn't already rescinded) the law that enabled a Belgian court to prosecute Sharon, therefore Sharon isn't under the threat of arrest even in Belgium.
>>>"Or, the good old USA, where their "leader" was not even elected in an impartial election, but was forced on an apathetic and stupefied consumerist society by an "impartial" court of his own peers...."<<<
If the same process had elevated Gore to power, would Sprye be whining about "lack of impartiallity"? Don't bet on it.
" >>>"in fact, while Zionists claim that non-Jews will *ALL* *ALWAYS AND FOREVER* be at least latent/secret/subconscious anti-Jewish anti-Semites)"<<<
non-Critical Thinkifier: 'JA has never been loath to such divisive generalization.' "
Why don't you (cut & paste) quote me.
non-Critical Thinkifier: 'JA has never been loath to such divisive generalization.' "
Why don't you (cut & paste) quote me.
You are an idiot.
(Which doesn't pain me at all, since it is your business)
an idiot
an ignorant mouth
consumerist
his "statements" are the comments of idiocy
absolutely lacking knowledge of anything
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