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21 Palestinians and three Israelis killed in Gaza fighting
Twenty-one Palestinians were killed by army fire and at least 108 wounded as Israeli troops pushed deep into the largest Palestinian refugee camp today.
Three Israelis - two soldiers and a woman jogging in a Jewish settlement - were killed.
The highest single-day Palestinian casualty count in four months came after a Palestinian rocket killed two children in an Israeli border town.
Three Israelis - two soldiers and a woman jogging in a Jewish settlement - were killed.
The highest single-day Palestinian casualty count in four months came after a Palestinian rocket killed two children in an Israeli border town.
Israel's defence minister decided after consultations with army commanders to widen the military campaign and send more troops to Gaza, a security official said.
His plan for a large-scale operation was to be presented to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his inner Cabinet later in the day. Previous Israeli military operations in northern Gaza - including 12 major ones - have not been able to stop the rockets.
The heaviest fighting raged in the Jebaliya refugee camp, just north of Gaza City. In the single deadliest incident, an Israeli tank fired a shell toward a group of Palestinian gunmen, killing at least seven people and wounding 23, many of them critically with loss of limbs.
The local Kamal Adwan hospital, which only has 25 beds, was overwhelmed as ambulances brought in the wounded. Two scorched bodies were carried in on stretchers. Two legless men were treated on the blood-covered hospital floor.
Ahmed Salem, 10, who was wounded by shrapnel in the leg, said the tank shell was fired from a tank at a U.N. school near Jebaliya's market. "I was hit and fell to the ground. The man lying next to me had no head," he said.
Hospital director Dr. Mahmoud Asali said that all the injured were in critical condition. "Some have lost their eyes. Others have lost limbs, and the martyrs are completely disfigured," he said, adding that at least four of the wounded were under the age of 14.
The army said soldiers fired the shell after gunmen in the market fired an explosive device and an anti-tank shell in their direction. Three soldiers were lightly hurt by the explosives, the army said.
Bulldozers also demolished 15 homes along a relatively narrow road leading into the camp, witnesses said, apparently to widen it and allow more tanks to get through. Armored vehicles avoided the booby-trapped main street in the camp.
"A bulldozer entered our living room and demolished half the house," said Hussein al-Jamal, a resident of the camp's Block 2, adding that he and his family fled, along with many of his neighbors.
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His plan for a large-scale operation was to be presented to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his inner Cabinet later in the day. Previous Israeli military operations in northern Gaza - including 12 major ones - have not been able to stop the rockets.
The heaviest fighting raged in the Jebaliya refugee camp, just north of Gaza City. In the single deadliest incident, an Israeli tank fired a shell toward a group of Palestinian gunmen, killing at least seven people and wounding 23, many of them critically with loss of limbs.
The local Kamal Adwan hospital, which only has 25 beds, was overwhelmed as ambulances brought in the wounded. Two scorched bodies were carried in on stretchers. Two legless men were treated on the blood-covered hospital floor.
Ahmed Salem, 10, who was wounded by shrapnel in the leg, said the tank shell was fired from a tank at a U.N. school near Jebaliya's market. "I was hit and fell to the ground. The man lying next to me had no head," he said.
Hospital director Dr. Mahmoud Asali said that all the injured were in critical condition. "Some have lost their eyes. Others have lost limbs, and the martyrs are completely disfigured," he said, adding that at least four of the wounded were under the age of 14.
The army said soldiers fired the shell after gunmen in the market fired an explosive device and an anti-tank shell in their direction. Three soldiers were lightly hurt by the explosives, the army said.
Bulldozers also demolished 15 homes along a relatively narrow road leading into the camp, witnesses said, apparently to widen it and allow more tanks to get through. Armored vehicles avoided the booby-trapped main street in the camp.
"A bulldozer entered our living room and demolished half the house," said Hussein al-Jamal, a resident of the camp's Block 2, adding that he and his family fled, along with many of his neighbors.
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31 die in deadliest Gaza day in 2 years
Greg Myre
New York Times
Oct. 1, 2004 12:00 AM
NISANIT, Gaza Strip - At least 28 Palestinians and three Israelis were killed on Thursday when Israeli troops pushed into a densely packed refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip and battled militants darting among the narrow alleys. It was the deadliest day in more than two years.
The Israelis fired from tanks and armored personnel carriers while they moved deep into the Jabaliya refugee camp, where more than 100,000 Palestinians live, just north of Gaza City. Masked Palestinians fired automatic rifles and anti-tank missiles and planted explosives along the sandy streets.
The Israelis rolled into northern Gaza on Tuesday night after the latest surge in Palestinian rocket fire. The heavy fighting on Thursday, combined with warnings from Israeli officials, pointed to the possibility of a large-scale military offensive in Gaza directed at the Palestinian factions responsible for almost daily attacks.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1001mideast01.html
Greg Myre
New York Times
Oct. 1, 2004 12:00 AM
NISANIT, Gaza Strip - At least 28 Palestinians and three Israelis were killed on Thursday when Israeli troops pushed into a densely packed refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip and battled militants darting among the narrow alleys. It was the deadliest day in more than two years.
The Israelis fired from tanks and armored personnel carriers while they moved deep into the Jabaliya refugee camp, where more than 100,000 Palestinians live, just north of Gaza City. Masked Palestinians fired automatic rifles and anti-tank missiles and planted explosives along the sandy streets.
The Israelis rolled into northern Gaza on Tuesday night after the latest surge in Palestinian rocket fire. The heavy fighting on Thursday, combined with warnings from Israeli officials, pointed to the possibility of a large-scale military offensive in Gaza directed at the Palestinian factions responsible for almost daily attacks.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1001mideast01.html
And once again if we want the atrocities to stop we nee a Palestinian State (called for in the Road Map to Peace) for the Palestinian People.......
Tit for Tat is getting us nowhere, as proof you can see there is still conflict after thirty six years. So you have to look at the problem as it stands today, and do the right thing so both people can live in peace and with freedom.
If only one side has freedom, the other side will always be seeking it, in anyway they can. That is why there have been wars as far back as we can remember.
Thirty six years of war should be enough for such a small number of people, when you consider the World Population.
You can save Israel by allowing the Palestinian People to have their small state in the Whole of the West Bank and Gaza.
There are 1,200,000 or so Arabs living inside Israel Proper.
There are 400,000 or so Jews living inside the West Bank and Gaza.
Trying to remove all the settlement can be an almost undoable task.
So Set the Borders for Israel to it Pre 1967 Border (Green Line) and have the State of Palestine inside the West Bank and Gaza.
If the U.N. can decide the Borders of Israel in 1948.
The U.N. can decide the Borders of Palestine in 2004.
You would end up with Israel with a majority Jewish Population and Palestine with a majority Muslim Population.
This would allow for the Israeli Military to Guard and Control the Israeli pre 1967 borders instead of confiscating Palestinian Land and Demolishing Palestinian Homes in the West Bank and Gaza that only goes to fuel the need for the Palestinian People to fight for their Freedom.
The Jews who do not like living in the new Palestinian State can feel free to move to Israel if they so choose.
The Arabs living inside Israel can feel free to move to the new Palestinian State if they so choose.
Almost every nation on earth has more then one ethnic group or religious group. So why not Israel and Palestine?
It would sure be better then the never ending conflict we have right now.
Tit for Tat is getting us nowhere, as proof you can see there is still conflict after thirty six years. So you have to look at the problem as it stands today, and do the right thing so both people can live in peace and with freedom.
If only one side has freedom, the other side will always be seeking it, in anyway they can. That is why there have been wars as far back as we can remember.
Thirty six years of war should be enough for such a small number of people, when you consider the World Population.
You can save Israel by allowing the Palestinian People to have their small state in the Whole of the West Bank and Gaza.
There are 1,200,000 or so Arabs living inside Israel Proper.
There are 400,000 or so Jews living inside the West Bank and Gaza.
Trying to remove all the settlement can be an almost undoable task.
So Set the Borders for Israel to it Pre 1967 Border (Green Line) and have the State of Palestine inside the West Bank and Gaza.
If the U.N. can decide the Borders of Israel in 1948.
The U.N. can decide the Borders of Palestine in 2004.
You would end up with Israel with a majority Jewish Population and Palestine with a majority Muslim Population.
This would allow for the Israeli Military to Guard and Control the Israeli pre 1967 borders instead of confiscating Palestinian Land and Demolishing Palestinian Homes in the West Bank and Gaza that only goes to fuel the need for the Palestinian People to fight for their Freedom.
The Jews who do not like living in the new Palestinian State can feel free to move to Israel if they so choose.
The Arabs living inside Israel can feel free to move to the new Palestinian State if they so choose.
Almost every nation on earth has more then one ethnic group or religious group. So why not Israel and Palestine?
It would sure be better then the never ending conflict we have right now.
the Palestinian death toll was 48 people, all or nearly all of whom were terrorists. A joint attempt by Hamas and al-Aqsa Martyr Brigades to infiltrate Israel was thwarted by IDF troops some 100 meters from the fence surronding the Gaza strip. So it's evident the Islamist terror groups cooperate with the more secular Arafat led al-Aqsa.
That's the Zionists' version of what happened. But as we all know, Zionists are not only terrorists themselves, but also inveterate liars. They have to lie because there is no honest defense of ethnic cleansing.
"By way of deception shalt thou wage war." -- Mossad motto
"By way of deception shalt thou wage war." -- Mossad motto
by repeating for the umpteenth times your tired tripe. Anyway, why are you so bored in your own sandbox?
In a press conference held yesterday, several masked Hamas terrorists threatened to keep on launching Qassam missiles at Jewish settlements in the Strip, not only against the strongly castigated Siderot, not only at Neguev, but also against the town of Ashkelon, 15 km far from the Strip.
That happens despite Sharon's intention of withdrawing from Gaza.
Being that decision unilaterally made, the PA are not prepared to dialogue, since they and Hamas want the withdrawal to seem a consequence of their attacks. And besides Arafat has no interest in Israel leaving Gaza. The reason is that then he should face the situation created by himself since he has been in control, and that the PA has weakened as a consequence of rampant corruption.
That is the reason why they started shooting and launching missiles at Israeli civilians. And as a consequence, the Israeli troops entered Gaza to try and stop those brutal attacks, which killed innocent Israelis, among them two children of 4 and 2, members of the same family.
International analysts consider the intifada to have given Israel legitimacy to use force.
Sources, "ABC" and "El Mundo", October 3, 2004
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