animal liberation circus-fresno

This is a really good idea...does anyone have any costumes?

I'll try and bring some buckets.

if you want to bring costumes that would be more than fine.really anything that will add to the spectacle would help.we need a lot of people to come help with this.the really cool thing is the head police officer that patrols the area and is always there,i really down with us.he said he doesnt take his family to the circus or the zoo.so if we dont croos the imaginary line(though we gained about 4 extra feet cause of our lawyers)we have nothing to worry about.our sound isnt amplified,so they cant stop us there.basically the head cop is like,if they(ringling)cant handle the noise,sorry about it.so kiddies we have a lot to work with.if we get a lot of peple making a huge spectacle,then we will win!!!!!
ALC till i die!!!

I think crossing the line that has been established won't do much to further the issue, and may turn people against you if you seem like your overly agressive ... be cool and let the Ringling torturers look like the monsters they are.

Although I may agree with the cause and don’t support the circus, You organization lost my support. I came out to see what was happening Fri and Sat. I even talked to a cop out there and some of you. Friday the cops handled things pretty well. Your group got to make its point without infringing upon the rights of the circus. But Sat you actually seemed aggressive and blocked people as they tried to walk by. Then I see that you publicly say you were harassed by police. I think the line was crossed. Although I agree with the cause, I am embarrassed for everyone who has to push things over the line in order to feel they accomplished something. Sometimes you can be polite and actually get more support. Being obnoxious turns people off like me. Has anyone ever though that you might talk to the police first and explain what you want to do, insure that you wont cross the line and work with them. I think they will work with you just like they tried to do this time.

I don't think that anyone has written that the police have been "harrassing us", some people have stated that the Circus staff have, by blocking our video our signs, calling police on us for no reason, lying about where we could be legally, and also taking pictures of us for documentation.

The police were generally well, nice. The first police officer that I saw on Saturday came after 8pm when the whole thing was done. Asked if things were okay, and asked if we were going to be there tomorrow, he then left. If there were any hard or bad feelings between the police I didn't seem then. The only thing I noticed is that the police kept getting angry that the circus kept calling them out there when we clearly weren't doing anything.

I also saw nothing in the way of us blocking people from trying to get in. Beleive me, the Circus was threatening to call the police on people for handing out flyers over a certain made up line, do you think that they would have allowed people to block ticket buyers from entering the business?

There were basically only three groups of people even in front of the entrance. The sign holders which were near the street, the banner holders which were a little farther up, but not blocking the entrance, and about five people dressed as animals which were not blocking the entrance either. There were alot of people there protesting, but to actually say we were blocking would be to incite that we physically held people from entering, which we did not do, or plan to do. If anything, more people heard our message while they were in line, because they watched the video that was playing right by them.

From everything that I saw nobody seemed mean, angry, or spiteful to anyone, as we faced the occassional flip off, "fuck you", or comment about peta etc.

Lastely, if you say you support a cause, you do it a disservice to simply arrive at a place where people are doing things, and if you disagree with what they are doing you simply do nothing and walk away. Nothing was stopping you from saying anything to any body, or simply suggesting another route.

Whatever the case, I would gladdly take the many people who walked away after viewing the video, demanding refunds, or simply saying that this would be their last circus, over your dislike of our protest.

the simple fact that you believe that the circus,who murder and exploits animals,has rights makes you illegitimate to me at least.

ringling bros circus is a capitalist organization that will use any means to gain a profit.
the ALC was created to be agressive and move past tactics that prove ineffective time and again.if some people disagree with the tactics then,oh well,not everyone agrees on the same thing.but to say you agree with the cause and then turn around and give them any kind of legitimacy is the sign of someone who only agrees with reform and not the liberation of animals.to me and most of the alc,the circus has no rights when they expolit,animals,children(who perform in the circus) and use ex cia agents to be the head of security to target animal right/liberationists to bully the into not exposing the truth.

ringling and feld inc are the epitome of capitaist class opression.siding with them in any way is a traitor to the cause of animal liberation.

-soy!

if you want to bring costumes that would be more than fine.really anything that will add to the spectacle would help.

you heard it gang "FUR PILE" !

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http://www.sfimc.net/news/2004/07/1699316_comment.php#1699661