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Queer RNC Affinity Group: Next Meeting!
Please help plan a radical queer response to the RNC, electoral politics, assimilation, and the gay mainstream.
We'll be meeting again this monday, July 12, to organize a radical queer affinity group to take to the Republican National Convention at the end of August. there has been a lot of interest and support from other queer groups in California and around the country. there is even a writer for the Village Voice who wants to cover a radical queer perspective on the RNC, electoral politics, and assimilation. if you are in sf or the bay area, please come to this meeting! if you aren't sure if you can make it to nyc, let this meeting convince you!
What: Planning meeting for a queer affinity group at the RNC in New York City
When: Monday, July 12th, 8pm
Where: Muddy Waters Cafe, 16th and Valencia in San Francisco
p.s.- if this meeting time or place does not work for anyone (ie East Bay folks) please let us know via email so we can shuffle the meetings around some to accommodate everyone
What: Planning meeting for a queer affinity group at the RNC in New York City
When: Monday, July 12th, 8pm
Where: Muddy Waters Cafe, 16th and Valencia in San Francisco
p.s.- if this meeting time or place does not work for anyone (ie East Bay folks) please let us know via email so we can shuffle the meetings around some to accommodate everyone
For more information:
http://www.rncnotwelcome.org
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"electoral politics and assimilation"
These are code words meant to exclude queer progressives and radicals who normally would jump at such an opportunity but support such things as gay marriage and voting.
It is hopeless that anything truly radical can come out of such a grouping and this is obviously being organized by tired gay-shamers (in their regular meeting space) who've lost their momentum after Gavin was elected. But you see, they never had much to say to begin with and are just as opposed to people voting for a progressive in a local election as they are a tool for the rich running in one. But the RNC will provide a stage for them, and a stage is all they need. "Let's all wear pink!"...as if being fashionable is the same as being willing to commit to stand in front of a bulldozer like Rachel Corrie.
You want to see a radical movement in the queer community? Look at the marriage equality organizing. It's reaching thousands of people. Look at the isbadlandsbad.com website and look at people really exposing racism and fighting it in the Castro, instead of just bitching about it. None of them, however, are associated with Matt Bernstein (busy writing gay incest porn) or Rollo (busy dissing DDC for not being queer enough).
It seems as soon as a pretentious, holier-than-thou queer vacumn is created, someone is there to fill it. ACT UP SF (the wacko denialists) filled that for a while, then it was gay shame, and now...what? I don't know, but last month I saw pathetic David Bellefontaine shouting obscenities not at the usual HIV care providers but at anti-war, pro-Palestinians while he stood with the other pro-Israel zionists draped in blue and white. And Ari, a gay shame organizer, was also very opposed to the Israel boycott at his workplace, Rainbow Grocery, who to this day on thier links page lists some of the most hateful, lying anti-Palestinian propagandist groups. And yet these are the folks that are suppose to be "radical" and anti-assimilationist.
Most of us just find it extremely sad and don't bother. Which is probably why there wasn't a visible anti-war contingent in the SF Pride parade. These people do more to scare people away and make the rest cynical than any of the good they do.
I hope there is a radical queer presence for the RNC and DNC conventions, but I hope to god that is has no affiliation with the usual suspects behind gay shame/queeruption or any of the douche bags associated with them.
These are code words meant to exclude queer progressives and radicals who normally would jump at such an opportunity but support such things as gay marriage and voting.
It is hopeless that anything truly radical can come out of such a grouping and this is obviously being organized by tired gay-shamers (in their regular meeting space) who've lost their momentum after Gavin was elected. But you see, they never had much to say to begin with and are just as opposed to people voting for a progressive in a local election as they are a tool for the rich running in one. But the RNC will provide a stage for them, and a stage is all they need. "Let's all wear pink!"...as if being fashionable is the same as being willing to commit to stand in front of a bulldozer like Rachel Corrie.
You want to see a radical movement in the queer community? Look at the marriage equality organizing. It's reaching thousands of people. Look at the isbadlandsbad.com website and look at people really exposing racism and fighting it in the Castro, instead of just bitching about it. None of them, however, are associated with Matt Bernstein (busy writing gay incest porn) or Rollo (busy dissing DDC for not being queer enough).
It seems as soon as a pretentious, holier-than-thou queer vacumn is created, someone is there to fill it. ACT UP SF (the wacko denialists) filled that for a while, then it was gay shame, and now...what? I don't know, but last month I saw pathetic David Bellefontaine shouting obscenities not at the usual HIV care providers but at anti-war, pro-Palestinians while he stood with the other pro-Israel zionists draped in blue and white. And Ari, a gay shame organizer, was also very opposed to the Israel boycott at his workplace, Rainbow Grocery, who to this day on thier links page lists some of the most hateful, lying anti-Palestinian propagandist groups. And yet these are the folks that are suppose to be "radical" and anti-assimilationist.
Most of us just find it extremely sad and don't bother. Which is probably why there wasn't a visible anti-war contingent in the SF Pride parade. These people do more to scare people away and make the rest cynical than any of the good they do.
I hope there is a radical queer presence for the RNC and DNC conventions, but I hope to god that is has no affiliation with the usual suspects behind gay shame/queeruption or any of the douche bags associated with them.
Thanks you! You are very correct, marriage equality stands for a truly progressive movement. I love seeing those colors of old glory plastered on every supporter of gay marriage.. (The Freedom to Mary stickers) There is nothing more beautiful and revolutionary than the American flag and nationalism at a time like this!!
the real irony, is all the assimilationists living on the legacy of real queer radicals (like stonewall), while attacking not only those carrying on the radical tradition in the "community," but also the weak and vulnerable in society, like the homeless, for the sake of their right to run boutiques and own homes whose property values increase in a predictable manner.
gay shame is aptly named. it is an accusation, not a confession.
as for the sadlands thing, those accusations (and the problems underlying them) have been going on up in the castro for years and years. why is someone upset only now that it happened to them? and given the logic, why should anyone else care, if we're all so out for ourselves?
gay shame is aptly named. it is an accusation, not a confession.
as for the sadlands thing, those accusations (and the problems underlying them) have been going on up in the castro for years and years. why is someone upset only now that it happened to them? and given the logic, why should anyone else care, if we're all so out for ourselves?
gosh dam!
i hate this group because blahty blah
and them over there blahty-blah
THAT's why i don't do shite; cause of them
make yer own dam groups fifty of them, hell 200
stand up for what you want!
but pleeeeez
lets have constructive crap to sling!
respect ALL tactics
at least HAVE ONE of yer on!!
i hate this group because blahty blah
and them over there blahty-blah
THAT's why i don't do shite; cause of them
make yer own dam groups fifty of them, hell 200
stand up for what you want!
but pleeeeez
lets have constructive crap to sling!
respect ALL tactics
at least HAVE ONE of yer on!!
that may all be true, but if the gay community well is so poisoned that no one wants to work with each other, should one just drink from it anyway? it takes a lot of guts to be persistently personally vilified in the gay press &c and still keep on keeping on.
gay shame have to be martyrs just to exist. why does the community make them pay that kind of price for, um, a critique?
gay shame have to be martyrs just to exist. why does the community make them pay that kind of price for, um, a critique?
Moralizing, finger-wagging snots--don't like marriage? Then don't get married.
And that goes for the Christianazis and for Gay Shame, too.
You're free to "critique" my marriage, and try to tie the differences between our opinions about my marriage to how "bad" I am and how pure you are--because good people all agree with Gay Shame, of course!--but save us all the bullshit and drink the fucking Kool-Aid already.
And that goes for the Christianazis and for Gay Shame, too.
You're free to "critique" my marriage, and try to tie the differences between our opinions about my marriage to how "bad" I am and how pure you are--because good people all agree with Gay Shame, of course!--but save us all the bullshit and drink the fucking Kool-Aid already.
is dissent. you dont like it, go back to england.
Holy war on gay marriage! Their relationship choices are an outrage that we must publicly crusade against! Gay Shame!
We are all in this anti-gay marriage jihad together--the Republican Party, Focus on the Family, the Baptists and the Pope, and Gay Shame--RENOUNCE equal marriage rights for gays!
People should never be free to choose something that we don't want them to choose. That is why Gay Shame is joining with the Pope, the Baptists, the Christian Coalition, Focus on the Family, Concerned Women for America and other Mujahadeen in this crusade to shame and denounce those gays who have the *nerve* to decide to marry. How dare they defy *our* will!
We the Pure are naturally suited to make relationship decisions for other people--even if our choice is against their will and against their best interests. And if they don't submit to our crusade for purity and righteousness--Jihad!
Yes, brothers and sisters, those who choose to marry must be forced to feel Gay Shame! Of all the issues that could be protested outside the GOP Convention in New York, our crusade to shame gay married couples takes precedence. War, poverty, disease and disenfranchisement are small potatoes compared to the impurity and impudence of gay marriage--we must force upon them the wrath of Gay Shame! Jihad!
We are all in this anti-gay marriage jihad together--the Republican Party, Focus on the Family, the Baptists and the Pope, and Gay Shame--RENOUNCE equal marriage rights for gays!
People should never be free to choose something that we don't want them to choose. That is why Gay Shame is joining with the Pope, the Baptists, the Christian Coalition, Focus on the Family, Concerned Women for America and other Mujahadeen in this crusade to shame and denounce those gays who have the *nerve* to decide to marry. How dare they defy *our* will!
We the Pure are naturally suited to make relationship decisions for other people--even if our choice is against their will and against their best interests. And if they don't submit to our crusade for purity and righteousness--Jihad!
Yes, brothers and sisters, those who choose to marry must be forced to feel Gay Shame! Of all the issues that could be protested outside the GOP Convention in New York, our crusade to shame gay married couples takes precedence. War, poverty, disease and disenfranchisement are small potatoes compared to the impurity and impudence of gay marriage--we must force upon them the wrath of Gay Shame! Jihad!
the soul of htis nation is puritan oppression
Thanks for getting your racism right out there too. We all knew you're a hater, but it's always nice to make things plain.
As for the puritan bit, I don't buy that for a minute. This is not their country, except insofar as we the people cede it to them. I thought the Black Civil Rights movement taught us this?
As for the puritan bit, I don't buy that for a minute. This is not their country, except insofar as we the people cede it to them. I thought the Black Civil Rights movement taught us this?
Racism. Right.
Because opposing Gay Shame's puritan crusade is racist--of course it is! And don't forget to trot out "self-ist" and "property-ist" and--worst of all--"not-exactly-like-me-ist."
Only bad people oppose Gay Shame, obviously. Bad, bad people--people *so* bad that they are, if not flat-out married, then marriage-lovers. We the Pure denounce them, for they are impure.
Only bad people get married. Attack the bad people! Shame them in public for getting married--how dare they! After we told them not to! How dare they choose something we wouldn't choose for ourselves! Shame them! Demonize them as racists--that will make them shut up! RACISTS!
Because opposing Gay Shame's puritan crusade is racist--of course it is! And don't forget to trot out "self-ist" and "property-ist" and--worst of all--"not-exactly-like-me-ist."
Only bad people oppose Gay Shame, obviously. Bad, bad people--people *so* bad that they are, if not flat-out married, then marriage-lovers. We the Pure denounce them, for they are impure.
Only bad people get married. Attack the bad people! Shame them in public for getting married--how dare they! After we told them not to! How dare they choose something we wouldn't choose for ourselves! Shame them! Demonize them as racists--that will make them shut up! RACISTS!
I notice you dropped the Muslim references in your latest screed.
That means you know it's real. So do we.
And I still don't give a doodly-squat about your gay marriage. So sue me.
That means you know it's real. So do we.
And I still don't give a doodly-squat about your gay marriage. So sue me.
Ah, I see--in your mind, opposing Jihad and those who oppress and murder in the name of radical Islam is tantamount to "racism."
Radical Islam is not a "race", it's an extremist, retrograde interpretation of a religion. And Jihad isn't the loving expression of some race or culture, it's the prosecution of a war upon people who don't think and behave as you demand they think and behave. Hmm, that *does* sound suspiciously like the anti-gay marriage antics of the sequestered rage-queens of Gay Shame...no wonder you appear to support Jihad at home and abroad.
Radical Islam is not a "race", it's an extremist, retrograde interpretation of a religion. And Jihad isn't the loving expression of some race or culture, it's the prosecution of a war upon people who don't think and behave as you demand they think and behave. Hmm, that *does* sound suspiciously like the anti-gay marriage antics of the sequestered rage-queens of Gay Shame...no wonder you appear to support Jihad at home and abroad.
Actually, jihad simply means "struggle." In terms of Islam, there is the greater struggle, which is internal and spiritual, and there is the lesser jihad, which is in the world and has to do with social justice.
Sure, there are those who have twisted it for their own purposes.
But all you know is the propaganda crap that's been shoved in your head and comes spewing out in your venomous hatred.
Eat and barf, eat and barf. What else do you have to share with us?
Sure, there are those who have twisted it for their own purposes.
But all you know is the propaganda crap that's been shoved in your head and comes spewing out in your venomous hatred.
Eat and barf, eat and barf. What else do you have to share with us?
Who would you claim have twisted the Jihad concept toward their ends,- Wahabbi, Sunni and Shi'ite circles over the last decades or certain Muslim circles already subsequent to prophet Muhammad's death?
Well, in this context, the twisting of the meaning occured when some reactionarty westerner used the word in ignorant equation with extremism.
That's the kind of thinking that gives us endless war, whomever is engaged in the twisting. At root, it's racist-- because it plays on the fear of the other-- perhaps xenophobic would be a more accurate term.
At any rate, it should be called as such by decent folk, wherever it occurs. Here, however, we have merely a tawdry example of the phenomenon. A war of cultures is a most ironic and self-contradictory thing for an ostensible gay rights supporter to be upholding.
That's the kind of thinking that gives us endless war, whomever is engaged in the twisting. At root, it's racist-- because it plays on the fear of the other-- perhaps xenophobic would be a more accurate term.
At any rate, it should be called as such by decent folk, wherever it occurs. Here, however, we have merely a tawdry example of the phenomenon. A war of cultures is a most ironic and self-contradictory thing for an ostensible gay rights supporter to be upholding.
The mention of "gay rights supporter" in the above post sort of begs a question or two: what are "gay rights," and who in this thread supports them?
If by "gay rights" we mean the same rights for gays as those enjoyed by straights, then it is clear that Gay Shame does NOT support gay rights. I just thought I would point that out.
If by "gay rights" we mean the same rights for gays as those enjoyed by straights, then it is clear that Gay Shame does NOT support gay rights. I just thought I would point that out.
gay shame didn't invent these politics and this isn't even a gay shame event. gay shame has nothing to do with this. anti-marriage politics have been around for over a century, primarily with radical feminists.
This is all about Gay Shame and all about how some emotionally stunted, self-loathing rage-queens just want an excuse to rail against other gay people again.
1) It's true-- the marriage debate has been around at least a century:
http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/goldman/aando/marriageandlove.html
(that's called empirical evidence)
2) You misspelled Pinocchio. But your track record on knowing anything about other cultures you'd ostensibly cite wasn't that great to start with, now was it? I mean, this is our expert on jihad...
3) Speaking of rage queens, I think your demand for unrequited support of your class privilege as a universal gay agenda, backed by how mean you're willing to be with those with whom you disagree, says more about your bulimic soul than any of us could.
Eat and barf, eat and barf. What else do you have to show us?
PS: "Idiot" comes from the Greek for "same" or "self." It means to imply one so obsessed with their own welfare that they're blinded to the common good-- a major character flaw in other, more civilized, societies.
http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/goldman/aando/marriageandlove.html
(that's called empirical evidence)
2) You misspelled Pinocchio. But your track record on knowing anything about other cultures you'd ostensibly cite wasn't that great to start with, now was it? I mean, this is our expert on jihad...
3) Speaking of rage queens, I think your demand for unrequited support of your class privilege as a universal gay agenda, backed by how mean you're willing to be with those with whom you disagree, says more about your bulimic soul than any of us could.
Eat and barf, eat and barf. What else do you have to show us?
PS: "Idiot" comes from the Greek for "same" or "self." It means to imply one so obsessed with their own welfare that they're blinded to the common good-- a major character flaw in other, more civilized, societies.
I'm sure this will work swimmingly for you, this denunciation of gay people who support equal marriage rights for gays.
Oh, did I spell that word right? Is it culturally correct? It must be classist. And a demand, right? Because I reject the 'critique,' I must be a bad person--but not just bad in general, but also bad on race, class and every other level!
Because only bad people disagree with Gay Shame, and people who disagree with Gay Shame are bad!
Oh, did I spell that word right? Is it culturally correct? It must be classist. And a demand, right? Because I reject the 'critique,' I must be a bad person--but not just bad in general, but also bad on race, class and every other level!
Because only bad people disagree with Gay Shame, and people who disagree with Gay Shame are bad!
It is not incorrect to point out that there is a jihad (a struggle)against gay marriage. Whether or not this group is a part of that jihad is an issue I will not address. But if you reread the post in question and use the word in its proper context and it still makes perfect sense.
Oh, look--me!
by needy Tuesday, Jul. 27, 2004 at 12:03 AM
I'm sure this will work swimmingly for me, this denunciation of gay people like me who support equal marriage rights for myself.
Oh, did I spell that word right? Am I culturally correct? I must be classist. And a demand, right? Because I reject the 'critique,' I must be a bad person--but not just bad in general, but also bad on race, class and every other level!
Because only bad people disagree with me, and people who disagree with me are bad!
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Jihad against me
by Makes Sense Tuesday, Jul. 27, 2004 at 12:28 AM
I don't think that it can't be not incorrect to point out that there is a jihad (a struggle)against me and my gay marriage. Whether or not I am a part of that jihad is an issue I will not address. But if you reread my post in question and use my words in my context and I still makes perfect sense.
by needy Tuesday, Jul. 27, 2004 at 12:03 AM
I'm sure this will work swimmingly for me, this denunciation of gay people like me who support equal marriage rights for myself.
Oh, did I spell that word right? Am I culturally correct? I must be classist. And a demand, right? Because I reject the 'critique,' I must be a bad person--but not just bad in general, but also bad on race, class and every other level!
Because only bad people disagree with me, and people who disagree with me are bad!
add your comments
Jihad against me
by Makes Sense Tuesday, Jul. 27, 2004 at 12:28 AM
I don't think that it can't be not incorrect to point out that there is a jihad (a struggle)against me and my gay marriage. Whether or not I am a part of that jihad is an issue I will not address. But if you reread my post in question and use my words in my context and I still makes perfect sense.
Don't give me this "me, me, me" ad hominem bullshit.
The targets of your "critique" are PEOPLE, "those gays" who don't share your views on marriage. And guess what? We just happen to be people who are quite accustomed to being denounced as selfish, impure and wrong by finger-wagging preachers of moral and political purity such as yourself. If you think that line of attack is going to win us over, you're deluded.
Indeed, you are either so inept that you are incapable of initiating a non-threatening, non-accusatory discussion of your ideas, or your whole point here is to gratuitiously denounce and lecture hostile targets about their supposed impurities. I suspect it's the latter. Either way, your hostile and arrogant "critique" of other human beings is going nowhere, and deservedly so. You are incapable of convincing the queer nation that gays should never marry each other.
The targets of your "critique" are PEOPLE, "those gays" who don't share your views on marriage. And guess what? We just happen to be people who are quite accustomed to being denounced as selfish, impure and wrong by finger-wagging preachers of moral and political purity such as yourself. If you think that line of attack is going to win us over, you're deluded.
Indeed, you are either so inept that you are incapable of initiating a non-threatening, non-accusatory discussion of your ideas, or your whole point here is to gratuitiously denounce and lecture hostile targets about their supposed impurities. I suspect it's the latter. Either way, your hostile and arrogant "critique" of other human beings is going nowhere, and deservedly so. You are incapable of convincing the queer nation that gays should never marry each other.
Of course you need it to be a war, because your frame of reference is, according to yourself, a nationalist one.
I think that's the difference as briefly as possible. It's an irreconcilable one, and I want a gay divorce now. When do I get my half of the property??
Have a nice war, America!! Buh-bye.
I think that's the difference as briefly as possible. It's an irreconcilable one, and I want a gay divorce now. When do I get my half of the property??
Have a nice war, America!! Buh-bye.
Yes, I was using the phrase "queer nation" to refer to the sum total of the queer communities in the US. It's an older term, perhaps you've heard of it...
The point is that anti-gay marriage extremists within the sum total of the queer communities are making no inroads, and it's not hard to see why. How does nitpicking about the phraseology of a reference to the sum total of the queer communities advance your agenda, unless your agenda is just to divide the queer nation?
The point is that anti-gay marriage extremists within the sum total of the queer communities are making no inroads, and it's not hard to see why. How does nitpicking about the phraseology of a reference to the sum total of the queer communities advance your agenda, unless your agenda is just to divide the queer nation?
Once upon a time, this thread was about protesting the republicans. then someone nitpicked the details of the original call, to construe hurt feelings on the part of the pro-play-house gay "movement." then when that critique got critiqued, it was back to "those gay shame people are all launching muslim-extremist war on us righteous victims" etc etc ad nauseum.
And here we are full circle-- it's all now somehow the fault of those who stuck up to your bullying to begin with. Look, if you don't like criticism of your assimilationist agenda, then don't hang out on a radical-activist discussion board. if you do hang out here, it's because you're getting off on your chance at low-stakes sanctimony here.
Or should I perhaps refer to you as you-all, a little more royal a "we"? Just for the sake of your fragile feelings, naturally. PEOPLE are rumored to have those-- just not radicals, who are woodenboys and muslimextremists.
And here we are full circle-- it's all now somehow the fault of those who stuck up to your bullying to begin with. Look, if you don't like criticism of your assimilationist agenda, then don't hang out on a radical-activist discussion board. if you do hang out here, it's because you're getting off on your chance at low-stakes sanctimony here.
Or should I perhaps refer to you as you-all, a little more royal a "we"? Just for the sake of your fragile feelings, naturally. PEOPLE are rumored to have those-- just not radicals, who are woodenboys and muslimextremists.
This thread is not about protesting the Republicans, though, and that is why there is discord.
Re-read the initial post, which clearly calls on us to "move beyond" protesting the GOP and move into protesting against "those gays" who support equal marriage rights.
Re-read the initial post, which clearly calls on us to "move beyond" protesting the GOP and move into protesting against "those gays" who support equal marriage rights.
So now we have at least one Gay Shamer inviting anyone who disagrees with that clique's divisive, extremist agenda to attack and shame "those gays" who dare support equal rights to leave this site.
An invitation to leave Indy because I don't share Gay Shame's hatred of married gays? It's an offer I can't accept.
Yeah, yeah. Bring on the next venemous denunciation. And then the next. Nitpick on spelling and references. Slander the dissent with the worst accusations you can come up with--"Classist! Racist! Xenophobe!"--it doesn't matter.
Because you wield your self-righteous, totalitarian "critique" like a deadly weapon and gore anyone who objects to being your dart-board target. You're not winning enough hearts and minds on this website to make any difference out in the impure, imperfect "couples-ist" world, where every day the movement for gay marriage gets a little bigger and a little stronger. Yes, it does.
An invitation to leave Indy because I don't share Gay Shame's hatred of married gays? It's an offer I can't accept.
Yeah, yeah. Bring on the next venemous denunciation. And then the next. Nitpick on spelling and references. Slander the dissent with the worst accusations you can come up with--"Classist! Racist! Xenophobe!"--it doesn't matter.
Because you wield your self-righteous, totalitarian "critique" like a deadly weapon and gore anyone who objects to being your dart-board target. You're not winning enough hearts and minds on this website to make any difference out in the impure, imperfect "couples-ist" world, where every day the movement for gay marriage gets a little bigger and a little stronger. Yes, it does.
You want to hang around and dish it out, you best be ready to take it, is all I'm sayin, o bulimic one.
BTW, I'm not in Gay Shame, and never have been. Too bad for your machine thinking.... they don't have any more hegemony over anything than you do. Nice try though.
BTW, I'm not in Gay Shame, and never have been. Too bad for your machine thinking.... they don't have any more hegemony over anything than you do. Nice try though.
The original post said:
"We'll be meeting again this monday, July 12, to organize a radical queer affinity group to take to the Republican National Convention at the end of August."
There was some talk of perhaps there being interest in issues beyond that, but this specific function of the meeting was iterated at least twice.
These alleged quotes:
"Re-read the initial post, which clearly calls on us to "move beyond" protesting the GOP and move into protesting against "those gays" who support equal marriage rights."
do not exist in the original post.
Rather, you saw something about assimilation and the mainstream gay movement, and jumped to a conclusion that it was some sort of "holy war" on you and your gay marriage.
Touchy. Touchy and needy. It's not all about you and your gay marriage, anywhere outside of your own head.
"We'll be meeting again this monday, July 12, to organize a radical queer affinity group to take to the Republican National Convention at the end of August."
There was some talk of perhaps there being interest in issues beyond that, but this specific function of the meeting was iterated at least twice.
These alleged quotes:
"Re-read the initial post, which clearly calls on us to "move beyond" protesting the GOP and move into protesting against "those gays" who support equal marriage rights."
do not exist in the original post.
Rather, you saw something about assimilation and the mainstream gay movement, and jumped to a conclusion that it was some sort of "holy war" on you and your gay marriage.
Touchy. Touchy and needy. It's not all about you and your gay marriage, anywhere outside of your own head.
Gay Shame wrote: "You want to hang around and dish it out, you best be ready to take it, is all I'm sayin, o bulimic one."
What, I'm supposed to think you've been holding back and are *now* going to become laughably irrational and militantly obnoxious? Laugh out loud funny, you are. How many fallacies are left in your bag of tricks? Alas, not many you haven't already trotted out.
PS Love the "bulimia" analogy even more than most of your off-the-hook dogma and your loopy pop-psychobabble! You work that Rage-Queen-Foaming-At-The-Mouth act! Work it!
What, I'm supposed to think you've been holding back and are *now* going to become laughably irrational and militantly obnoxious? Laugh out loud funny, you are. How many fallacies are left in your bag of tricks? Alas, not many you haven't already trotted out.
PS Love the "bulimia" analogy even more than most of your off-the-hook dogma and your loopy pop-psychobabble! You work that Rage-Queen-Foaming-At-The-Mouth act! Work it!
none are so blind...
it's been hours since you blamed me for your latest puerile outburst...
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Why dont all of you meet in some public place and fornicate with each other?? That will send a strong message of protest. Its no wonder you "HOMOS" cant get anything done, you all bitch at each other like old women. Bye Homos...
think that up all by yourself, che? fucking brilliant, you should go into philosophy...
Dont need to fuzznuts, I already teach at the University.Do you understand the basic elements of Time Cube ? Bye Homos...
you can buy an education, but not intelligence.
Its Friday night, shouldnt you be out butt fucking one another?
but you were already taken, probably by yer buddy kms...
It really breaks my heart to see people with such anger in their hearts. You all have strong opinions, and you all have the right to hold these opinions, even debate them. But the anger and ferocity in the tone of the arguments of almost every one of these posts are poor contributions for progress nor community. Either you folks might proofread & edit your posts after taking a deep breath, or choose not to unfold this sad dialectic.
It makes me really wonder what sort of people you are and if you are the type that smile back at strangers.
It makes me really wonder what sort of people you are and if you are the type that smile back at strangers.
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