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UN asks Israel to go nuclear-free
The head of the UN's nuclear watchdog, Mohamed ElBaradei, says Israel should start discussions on ridding the Middle East of nuclear weapons.
He said such dialogue would help reduce frustration in the region about "what is seen to be a widespread imbalance".
Mr ElBaradei is scheduled to travel to Israel next month to discuss making the Middle East a nuclear-free zone.
He said everyone knew that Israel had a nuclear capability - even if Israel has always refused to admit it.
"We need... to rid the Middle East of all weapons of mass destruction," he told reporters on a visit to Russia.
"Israel agrees with that, but they say it has to be... after peace agreements.
"My proposal is may be we need to start to have a parallel dialogue on security at the same time when we're working on the peace process."
'Ambiguity'
Mr ElBaradei said he would like Israel, along with other Middle East countries, to open up nuclear facilities to inspections by the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency.
But he would not be insisting Israel admits to having nuclear weapons, when he visits the country in early July.
"I think everybody takes it as a given that Israel has a nuclear capability, if not nuclear weapons," he said.
"So whether they would like to come in the open, whether they maintain... ambiguity, it's for them to decide."
Israel has a policy of "strategic ambiguity" - neither admitting nor denying it has nuclear weapons - but analysts believe it has more than 100 nuclear weapons.
Its Arab neighbours have frequently accused the international community of double standards for requiring them to be free of nuclear weapons while doing little, in their eyes, about Israel.
Mr ElBaradei said it was "not sustainable in any region or even globally to have some [people] rely on nuclear weapons and others being told they should not have nuclear weapons".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3844145.stm
Mr ElBaradei is scheduled to travel to Israel next month to discuss making the Middle East a nuclear-free zone.
He said everyone knew that Israel had a nuclear capability - even if Israel has always refused to admit it.
"We need... to rid the Middle East of all weapons of mass destruction," he told reporters on a visit to Russia.
"Israel agrees with that, but they say it has to be... after peace agreements.
"My proposal is may be we need to start to have a parallel dialogue on security at the same time when we're working on the peace process."
'Ambiguity'
Mr ElBaradei said he would like Israel, along with other Middle East countries, to open up nuclear facilities to inspections by the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency.
But he would not be insisting Israel admits to having nuclear weapons, when he visits the country in early July.
"I think everybody takes it as a given that Israel has a nuclear capability, if not nuclear weapons," he said.
"So whether they would like to come in the open, whether they maintain... ambiguity, it's for them to decide."
Israel has a policy of "strategic ambiguity" - neither admitting nor denying it has nuclear weapons - but analysts believe it has more than 100 nuclear weapons.
Its Arab neighbours have frequently accused the international community of double standards for requiring them to be free of nuclear weapons while doing little, in their eyes, about Israel.
Mr ElBaradei said it was "not sustainable in any region or even globally to have some [people] rely on nuclear weapons and others being told they should not have nuclear weapons".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3844145.stm
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"UN asks Israel to go nuclear-free"
haha...that's a good one...the UN asks Israel to drive itself into the sea...
(Bloody racist UN...time for them to go the way of the League of Nations!)
haha...that's a good one...the UN asks Israel to drive itself into the sea...
(Bloody racist UN...time for them to go the way of the League of Nations!)
The Arabs have never "driven Jews into the sea".Neither of the two Arab-israeli wars which Arabs instigated, the War of Attrition of 1969-1970 and the October 1973 warwere intended to drive Jews into any sea, although some IOF units were fighting with their backs to the Sea of Galilee in 1973.
The Zionists on the other hand did literally drive Arabs into the sea in 1948 and in the invasions of Lebanon.Arab civilians.
The UN Security Council is dominated by the US and its allies, by the way.If a way to Middle East peace can't be found by way of UN resolutions, it is certainly not because of any third world dictators who run the UN (not!)
The Zionists on the other hand did literally drive Arabs into the sea in 1948 and in the invasions of Lebanon.Arab civilians.
The UN Security Council is dominated by the US and its allies, by the way.If a way to Middle East peace can't be found by way of UN resolutions, it is certainly not because of any third world dictators who run the UN (not!)
The Cuban opposition has frequently driven its supporters into the sea (as in this picture) but I have never seen an example of an Israeli being driven into the sea by a Palestinian. Maybe the waves are too high off the Israeli and Gazan coasts? Perhaps some day when there is peace in the region Israelis and Palestinians can drive each other into the Sea for fun, but it hasnt gotten to that point yet.
British entrepreneur Richard Branson celebrates after arriving in Calais, France, to break the world record for crossing the English Channel in an amphibious vehicle, June 14, 2004
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http://www5.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/americas/10/08/cuba.truckboat.ap/
I guess crossing from Cuba to the US in a truck isnt fun and was dangerous but still I really doubt most Israelis really need to worry about having this happen to them by Palestinians
I guess crossing from Cuba to the US in a truck isnt fun and was dangerous but still I really doubt most Israelis really need to worry about having this happen to them by Palestinians
The Arabs have never "driven Jews into the sea" because the Israeli Jews wouldn't let them.
Arabs instigated also the 1948 and 1967 wars which certainly did have the theme of "pushing Jews in to the sea" as a goal.
>>>"The UN Security Council is dominated by the US and its allies, by the way. If a way to Middle East peace can't be found by way of UN resolutions, it is certainly not because of any third world dictators who run the UN (not!)"<<<
Whatever, sir knight.
Arabs instigated also the 1948 and 1967 wars which certainly did have the theme of "pushing Jews in to the sea" as a goal.
>>>"The UN Security Council is dominated by the US and its allies, by the way. If a way to Middle East peace can't be found by way of UN resolutions, it is certainly not because of any third world dictators who run the UN (not!)"<<<
Whatever, sir knight.
The conflict was instigated by crusader-colonialist invaders who came to Palestine to seize it by force.
>>>The head of the UN's nuclear watchdog, Mohamed ElBaradei, says Israel should start discussions on ridding the Middle East of nuclear weapons.<<<
We were talking about nuclear weapons.
If Israel did not have nuclear weapons then the reason for other Middle-Eastern Countries to have them would be gone.
The Biggest Fear of the Arab countries is that if they do not have weapons equal to Israel as a deterrent they will suffer the same fate as the Palestinian under the Brutal Israel Occupation and Oppression.
We are going to all these extremes to fight terrorism, yet all we really need to do is to Free the Palestinian People and allow them to have their State (Road Map?) in the Whole of the West Bank and Gaza. This would do more to end World Terrorism then going to war with all the Arab Nations.
As far as Nuclear weapons go, why does Israel even bother to have them, since to use them on the Palestinians would be like using them on themselves since the fallout from them would effect Israeli also.
Some reasoning and Common sense Please.
Free the Palestinian People and Peace in the Whole of the Middle East will follow..........
We were talking about nuclear weapons.
If Israel did not have nuclear weapons then the reason for other Middle-Eastern Countries to have them would be gone.
The Biggest Fear of the Arab countries is that if they do not have weapons equal to Israel as a deterrent they will suffer the same fate as the Palestinian under the Brutal Israel Occupation and Oppression.
We are going to all these extremes to fight terrorism, yet all we really need to do is to Free the Palestinian People and allow them to have their State (Road Map?) in the Whole of the West Bank and Gaza. This would do more to end World Terrorism then going to war with all the Arab Nations.
As far as Nuclear weapons go, why does Israel even bother to have them, since to use them on the Palestinians would be like using them on themselves since the fallout from them would effect Israeli also.
Some reasoning and Common sense Please.
Free the Palestinian People and Peace in the Whole of the Middle East will follow..........
>>>The head of the UN's nuclear watchdog, Mohamed ElBaradei, says Israel should start discussions on ridding the Middle East of nuclear weapons.<<<
We were talking about nuclear weapons.
If Arab States did not have WMD then the reason for Israel to have nuclear weapons would be gone.
The Biggest Fear of Israel is that if they do not have nuclear weapons as a deterrent against Arab countries using their WMD on Israel they will suffer the same fate as the Jews in Europe under the Brutal German Occupation and Oppression.
We are going to all these extremes to fight terrorism, yet all we really need to do is to Free the Israeli People and allow them to have their State (Road Map?) also in Part of the West Bank and Gaza. This would do more to end World Terrorism then capitulating to the pressures exerted by all the Arab Nations.
As far as WMD go, why do Arab countries even bother to have them, since to use them on Israel would trigger a nuclear Israeli reaction that would cause a fallout that would effect many Palestinian people within Arab countries also.
Some reasoning and Common sense Please.
Free the Israeli People and Peace in the Whole of the Middle East will follow..........
We were talking about nuclear weapons.
If Arab States did not have WMD then the reason for Israel to have nuclear weapons would be gone.
The Biggest Fear of Israel is that if they do not have nuclear weapons as a deterrent against Arab countries using their WMD on Israel they will suffer the same fate as the Jews in Europe under the Brutal German Occupation and Oppression.
We are going to all these extremes to fight terrorism, yet all we really need to do is to Free the Israeli People and allow them to have their State (Road Map?) also in Part of the West Bank and Gaza. This would do more to end World Terrorism then capitulating to the pressures exerted by all the Arab Nations.
As far as WMD go, why do Arab countries even bother to have them, since to use them on Israel would trigger a nuclear Israeli reaction that would cause a fallout that would effect many Palestinian people within Arab countries also.
Some reasoning and Common sense Please.
Free the Israeli People and Peace in the Whole of the Middle East will follow..........
Indeed, the whole conflict was instigated by Muslim crusader-colonialist invaders who came to the land to seize it through cunning and force.
" Free the Israeli People and Peace in the Whole of the Middle East will follow"
LOL!!!! There's never been peace in the Middle East...Arabs were busy killing each othe long before palestinians were invented in 1967...
LOL!!!! There's never been peace in the Middle East...Arabs were busy killing each othe long before palestinians were invented in 1967...
Peace in the Middle East is understood by most People as lack of conflict between Israel and Arab Entities.
>>>The head of the UN's nuclear watchdog, Mohamed ElBaradei, says Israel should start discussions on ridding the Middle East of nuclear weapons.<<<
We were talking about nuclear weapons.
If Israel did not have nuclear weapons then the reason for other Middle-Eastern Countries to have them would be gone.
The Biggest Fear of the Arab countries is that if they do not have weapons equal to Israel as a deterrent they will suffer the same fate as the Palestinian under the Brutal Israel Occupation and Oppression.
We are going to all these extremes to fight terrorism, yet all we really need to do is to Free the Palestinian People and allow them to have their State (Road Map?) in the Whole of the West Bank and Gaza. This would do more to end World Terrorism then going to war with all the Arab Nations.
As far as Nuclear weapons go, why does Israel even bother to have them, since to use them on the Palestinians would be like using them on themselves since the fallout from them would effect Israeli also.
Some reasoning and Common sense Please.
Free the Palestinian People and Peace in the Whole of the Middle East will follow..........
Details on WMD and where to find them:
CLICK HERE > http://www.msnbc.com/news/wld/graphics/strategic_israel_dw.htm
We were talking about nuclear weapons.
If Israel did not have nuclear weapons then the reason for other Middle-Eastern Countries to have them would be gone.
The Biggest Fear of the Arab countries is that if they do not have weapons equal to Israel as a deterrent they will suffer the same fate as the Palestinian under the Brutal Israel Occupation and Oppression.
We are going to all these extremes to fight terrorism, yet all we really need to do is to Free the Palestinian People and allow them to have their State (Road Map?) in the Whole of the West Bank and Gaza. This would do more to end World Terrorism then going to war with all the Arab Nations.
As far as Nuclear weapons go, why does Israel even bother to have them, since to use them on the Palestinians would be like using them on themselves since the fallout from them would effect Israeli also.
Some reasoning and Common sense Please.
Free the Palestinian People and Peace in the Whole of the Middle East will follow..........
Details on WMD and where to find them:
CLICK HERE > http://www.msnbc.com/news/wld/graphics/strategic_israel_dw.htm
The need for discuss ridding the entire Middle and Near East of WMD´s seems ludicrous to me given the facts that:
1. The oiligarch regime controlling the American population has already murdered (or worse) tens of thousands of innocent ...Arab Semitic civilians living in Iraq based on their well proven lies concerning that societies purportedly still possessing massive stockpiles of WMD´s for immediate tactical use (which the same regime sold to them in the first place...in order to be used against their own populations (Kurds) and Iranians in the proxy war developed and maintained by the oiligarch in the interests of continuous destabilization of the region.
--- there is no cry for this regime to be castigated, indicted, tried, and thereafter convicted/sanctioned/invaded/occupied
in order to rid the world of their manufacture, sale, and possession of massive stockpiles of WMD´s for immediate tactical and strategic use...in open contraversion of the accepted rule of international law.
2. Peoples of sovereign states such as Iraq can be invaded, kidnapped, tortured, and murdered at will based on the false accusations and criminal intent of a regime that by definition has deliberately acted as a rogue state outside the rule of law.
The Israeli regime (which is nothing but a proxy regime serving as an oiligarchian bridgehead for imperialistic megalomania) however, is merely "asked" to "cooperate".
There is no incentive for that regime to alter it´s current course of ethnic cleansing and deliberate usurpation of the human rights of those in possession of properties desired.
It is more than time for the American citizen and taxpayer to stand up and be counted.
The bucks....and the bombs.... stay here.
1. The oiligarch regime controlling the American population has already murdered (or worse) tens of thousands of innocent ...Arab Semitic civilians living in Iraq based on their well proven lies concerning that societies purportedly still possessing massive stockpiles of WMD´s for immediate tactical use (which the same regime sold to them in the first place...in order to be used against their own populations (Kurds) and Iranians in the proxy war developed and maintained by the oiligarch in the interests of continuous destabilization of the region.
--- there is no cry for this regime to be castigated, indicted, tried, and thereafter convicted/sanctioned/invaded/occupied
in order to rid the world of their manufacture, sale, and possession of massive stockpiles of WMD´s for immediate tactical and strategic use...in open contraversion of the accepted rule of international law.
2. Peoples of sovereign states such as Iraq can be invaded, kidnapped, tortured, and murdered at will based on the false accusations and criminal intent of a regime that by definition has deliberately acted as a rogue state outside the rule of law.
The Israeli regime (which is nothing but a proxy regime serving as an oiligarchian bridgehead for imperialistic megalomania) however, is merely "asked" to "cooperate".
There is no incentive for that regime to alter it´s current course of ethnic cleansing and deliberate usurpation of the human rights of those in possession of properties desired.
It is more than time for the American citizen and taxpayer to stand up and be counted.
The bucks....and the bombs.... stay here.
>>>The head of the UN's nuclear watchdog, Mohamed ElBaradei, says Israel should start discussions on ridding the Middle East of nuclear weapons.<<<
We were talking about nuclear weapons.
If Arab States did not have WMD then the reason for Israel to have nuclear weapons would be gone.
The Biggest Fear of Israel is that if they do not have nuclear weapons as a deterrent against Arab countries using their WMD on Israel they will suffer the same fate as the Jews in Europe under the Brutal German Occupation and Oppression.
We are going to all these extremes to fight terrorism, yet all we really need to do is to Free the Israeli People and allow them to have their State (Road Map?) also in Part of the West Bank and Gaza. This would do more to end World Terrorism then capitulating to the pressures exerted by all the Arab Nations.
As far as WMD go, why do Arab countries even bother to have them, since to use them on Israel would trigger a nuclear Israeli reaction that would cause a fallout that would effect many Palestinian people within Arab countries also.
Some reasoning and Common sense Please.
Free the Israeli People and Peace in the Whole of the Middle East will follow..........
Inaccurate details on the Israeli WMD and where to find them:
CLICK HERE > http://www.msnbc.com/news/wld/graphics/strategic_israel_dw.htm
We were talking about nuclear weapons.
If Arab States did not have WMD then the reason for Israel to have nuclear weapons would be gone.
The Biggest Fear of Israel is that if they do not have nuclear weapons as a deterrent against Arab countries using their WMD on Israel they will suffer the same fate as the Jews in Europe under the Brutal German Occupation and Oppression.
We are going to all these extremes to fight terrorism, yet all we really need to do is to Free the Israeli People and allow them to have their State (Road Map?) also in Part of the West Bank and Gaza. This would do more to end World Terrorism then capitulating to the pressures exerted by all the Arab Nations.
As far as WMD go, why do Arab countries even bother to have them, since to use them on Israel would trigger a nuclear Israeli reaction that would cause a fallout that would effect many Palestinian people within Arab countries also.
Some reasoning and Common sense Please.
Free the Israeli People and Peace in the Whole of the Middle East will follow..........
Inaccurate details on the Israeli WMD and where to find them:
CLICK HERE > http://www.msnbc.com/news/wld/graphics/strategic_israel_dw.htm
Angel,
....as far as WMD´s go, why do the members of the Security Council even bother to have them, since the use of them by any state will result in retaliation as well as nuclear fallout that will cause damage across the entire planet and even unto themselves...?
There is no common sense or reason to be had from oiligarchian politicians for hire, from any state. Because the reason and common sense of the oiligarch executive are entirely blinded by greed bred large by that morally destitute and spiritually ignorant body. That´s why.
....as far as WMD´s go, why do the members of the Security Council even bother to have them, since the use of them by any state will result in retaliation as well as nuclear fallout that will cause damage across the entire planet and even unto themselves...?
There is no common sense or reason to be had from oiligarchian politicians for hire, from any state. Because the reason and common sense of the oiligarch executive are entirely blinded by greed bred large by that morally destitute and spiritually ignorant body. That´s why.
Oh ANGEL imposter:
The least you can do is say something that has some truth in it.
Everyone knows that the only Country in the Middle East that has Nuclear Weapons is Israel.
None of the Arab countries have Nuclear Weapons.
The only reason that Arab countries want Weapons for self defense is because they are all aware of what Israel is doing to the Palestinian People who do not have modern means to defend their land and their homes from the brutal Israeli Occupation and Oppression, and they fear that unless they have means to defend themselves the same fate can come to them.
The best way to have permanent Peace in the Middle East is to free the Palestinian People and allow them to have their own State. (The Road Map that calls for a two state solution is backed by the U.S., U.N., E.U., and Russia (these powerful groups cannot all be totally stupid)).
Such a simple and just solution, Israeli free in its pre 1967 borders, Palestine free in the Whole of the West Bank and Gaza.
How much worse can it be, then what is occurring right now?
Let us give Peace a Chance.
This one action would do more to put a huge dent in Terrorism then any other action taken.
Details on WMD and where to find them:
CLICK HERE > http://www.msnbc.com/news/wld/graphics/strategic_israel_dw.htm
The least you can do is say something that has some truth in it.
Everyone knows that the only Country in the Middle East that has Nuclear Weapons is Israel.
None of the Arab countries have Nuclear Weapons.
The only reason that Arab countries want Weapons for self defense is because they are all aware of what Israel is doing to the Palestinian People who do not have modern means to defend their land and their homes from the brutal Israeli Occupation and Oppression, and they fear that unless they have means to defend themselves the same fate can come to them.
The best way to have permanent Peace in the Middle East is to free the Palestinian People and allow them to have their own State. (The Road Map that calls for a two state solution is backed by the U.S., U.N., E.U., and Russia (these powerful groups cannot all be totally stupid)).
Such a simple and just solution, Israeli free in its pre 1967 borders, Palestine free in the Whole of the West Bank and Gaza.
How much worse can it be, then what is occurring right now?
Let us give Peace a Chance.
This one action would do more to put a huge dent in Terrorism then any other action taken.
Details on WMD and where to find them:
CLICK HERE > http://www.msnbc.com/news/wld/graphics/strategic_israel_dw.htm
Oh ANGEL imposter:
The least you can do is say something that has some truth in it.
Everyone knows that the only Country in the Middle East that has Nuclear Weapons is Israel and that only the Arab Countries have WMD for offensive purposes.
None of the Arab countries have Nuclear Weapons, But some of them have chemical and biological WMD for offensive purposes.
The only reason that Israel wants Nuclear Weapons and other WMD is for self defense because they are aware of what Arab countries have done to other Countries which got a taste of an Attack by Arab WMD, the Nuclear Weapoms are a deterrent against Arab countries using their WMD on Israel so that they will not suffer the same fate as the Jews in Europe under the Brutal German Occupation and Oppression.
The Palestinian People have modern means to defend their land and their homes and murder many Israelis in their cruel caimpaign of Murder and Mayhem.
The best way to have permanent Peace in the Middle East is to free the Israeli People and allow them to exist peacefully in their State. (The Road Map that calls for a two state solution is backed by the U.S., U.N., E.U., and Russia (these powerful groups can all be totally stupid)).
Such an ostensibly simple and just solution, Israel free beyond its pre 1967 borders, Palestine free in Part of the West Bank and Gaza.
How much worse can it be, then what is occurring right now?
Let us give Common Sense a Chance.
This one action would do more to put a huge dent in Terrorism then some other actions taken.
Inaccurate Details on Israeli WMD and where to find them:
CLICK HERE > http://www.msnbc.com/news/wld/graphics/strategic_israel_dw.htm
The least you can do is say something that has some truth in it.
Everyone knows that the only Country in the Middle East that has Nuclear Weapons is Israel and that only the Arab Countries have WMD for offensive purposes.
None of the Arab countries have Nuclear Weapons, But some of them have chemical and biological WMD for offensive purposes.
The only reason that Israel wants Nuclear Weapons and other WMD is for self defense because they are aware of what Arab countries have done to other Countries which got a taste of an Attack by Arab WMD, the Nuclear Weapoms are a deterrent against Arab countries using their WMD on Israel so that they will not suffer the same fate as the Jews in Europe under the Brutal German Occupation and Oppression.
The Palestinian People have modern means to defend their land and their homes and murder many Israelis in their cruel caimpaign of Murder and Mayhem.
The best way to have permanent Peace in the Middle East is to free the Israeli People and allow them to exist peacefully in their State. (The Road Map that calls for a two state solution is backed by the U.S., U.N., E.U., and Russia (these powerful groups can all be totally stupid)).
Such an ostensibly simple and just solution, Israel free beyond its pre 1967 borders, Palestine free in Part of the West Bank and Gaza.
How much worse can it be, then what is occurring right now?
Let us give Common Sense a Chance.
This one action would do more to put a huge dent in Terrorism then some other actions taken.
Inaccurate Details on Israeli WMD and where to find them:
CLICK HERE > http://www.msnbc.com/news/wld/graphics/strategic_israel_dw.htm
Arab countries possessed weapons for "self defense" much before Israel conquered the disputed territories in '67. In the early 1960s, for example, Egypt was using nerve gas in the Yemenite war. What Egypt defending itself by using that weapon?
So, we've seen that at least one Arab country used "weapons for self defense" way before anyone could claim Israel was committing atrocities against the "Palestinian people" in "The West Bank and Gaza". Something for ANGEL to mull over. S/he might want to read up on the Egyptian usage of "weapons for self defense" in Yemen before there was even a PLO.
So, we've seen that at least one Arab country used "weapons for self defense" way before anyone could claim Israel was committing atrocities against the "Palestinian people" in "The West Bank and Gaza". Something for ANGEL to mull over. S/he might want to read up on the Egyptian usage of "weapons for self defense" in Yemen before there was even a PLO.
And going back to what Egypt did in the past will do nothing to solve the problem of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict.
and like I said many times
To end the resistance to the Occupation you have to end the Occupation that allows for the resistance….
and like I said many times
To end the resistance to the Occupation you have to end the Occupation that allows for the resistance….
I demolished your implicit contention that Arab countries want weapons for self defense. Pity you can't acknowledge your mistake.
You expected a logical response from a fool? When you trash their logic they just change the topic. Basically, Middle Eastern Islam teaches hate and killing and war.
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