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Soldier Back From Iraq: Troops will continue die, but for what?

by Army Times Discussion (repost)
PEOPLE!! soldiers have been hanging thier heads low a lot longer than you think! I was in Iraq for my tour, and will be deploying back within 6 to 10 months. I'm already hanging my head low! First we exhaust our military units, than we moblize guard and reserve units with out proper training, pretty much throwing them into the meat grinder. Most who deploy go to secure locations, where they never see what really happens on the streets. Unless you are on a convoy and it gets ambushed, or your a "shooter" who is patroling the streets of Iraq.
Patroling with limits that are unbearable to the GRJNT, the soldier who's job is to fight. Dodge IED's and RPG's without being able to use all the weapons systems that we have. The fight now is with the Iraqi people, we have lost the intiative. With the photos of the POW abuse every Iraqi has now become a possible combative, there are no more winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. These soldiers who took the photos, the soldiers who were embarrassing the Iraqi POW. Yeah we screwed up bigtime, but now at the expence of the "regular" soldier we have to "tippy-toe" with the way we treat Iraqis from here on out. Everytime there is a mission there will be even more restrictions being enforced. when a unit conducts a raid or a coradon and search, troops will be walikng into a living time bomb of Iraqis.
Still we conduct those missions that our leaders issue to us, but we still wonder what the intent is, who are we trying to protect if the iraqi now truely belives that the American soldier is a threat, and not there to help.
Soldeirs are starting to feel the strain of this so-called 'libeartion" in Iraq and back home. Who will no look out for the soldiers, we are walking a thin line, and we are going to pay dearly with the loss of our own military men and women.
So Mr. Rumsfield apologizing, spilling his heart out to the people and to the house, but it still won't change a thing. The Iraqis hate us, they hate us more than ever. The longer we stay, the futher we fall into a hole, a hole without a cause.
Troops will continue die, but for what?
Somebody please tell me, because I don't know anymore.

http://www.militarycity.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1-292925-2898887
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 7:20 am Post subject: Get Real about POW's

Ask yourself why there were so many women stationed at the prison? The leadership wanted them there to degrade and humiliate the prisoners. These women were doing what they thought was their job and carrying out the wishes of their leaders. Are you going to try to tell me that command didn't know what was going on? Get Real, this is another case of planned deniabilty by the command and its the grunts taking another hit for the officers in charge. You know damn well the pentagon knew what was going on and now rummy going to testify that he did't know or wasn't aware of this happening in the prison. Why do you think all these muslim misogynist were spilling their guts. They got all this information from them and didn't have to lay a hand on them. What's the matter with all you people are your brains dead. Get Real!!!!!
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 11:28 am Post subject: Bullshit

I'm watching Rummy and his cronies and what a cover your ass play this is. You realize they are going to hang this on some Privates and Spc's. Hey! these folks were doing what they were doing out in the open. They weren't hiding or worried about being filmed because they thought they were doing what was expected of them. Deny, deny, deny....Notice they aren't speaking from the hearts....they are reading prepared papers so they can be on the same page. Great example of cover you ass....

http://www.militarycity.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1333&sid=44e1f0877e2c7b69e06201eef5773214


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