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U.S. soldiers stacked Iraqi prisoners in a human pyramid

by AP-cnews canadian news
NEW YORK (AP) -- U.S. soldiers stacked Iraqi prisoners in a human pyramid, and attached wires to one detainee to convince him he might be electrocuted, according to photographs obtained by CBS News which led to criminal charges against six Americans.
NEW YORK (AP) -- U.S. soldiers stacked Iraqi prisoners in a human pyramid, and attached wires to one detainee to convince him he might be electrocuted, according to photographs obtained by CBS News which led to criminal charges against six Americans.

CBS said the photos, to be shown Wednesday night on "60 Minutes II," were taken late last year at Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad, where American soldiers were holding hundreds of prisoners captured during the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

In March, the U.S. Army announced that six members of the 800th Military Police Brigade faced court martial for allegedly abusing about 20 prisoners at Abu Ghraib. The charges included dereliction of duty, cruelty and maltreatment, assault and indecent acts with another person.

At the time, U.S. military officials declined to provide details of the evidence against the six soldiers. But on Wednesday, at a news briefing in Baghdad, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said the investigation began when an American soldier reported the abuse and turned over evidence that included photographs.

Kimmitt confirmed that CBS had obtained those photographs.

One picture, according to CBS, shows an Iraqi prisoner who was told to stand on a box with his head covered and wires attached to his hands. CBS said the prisoner was told that if he fell off the box, he would be electrocuted.

In another photograph, CBS said, prisoners' bodies were stacked in a pyramid, and one man had a slur written in English on his skin.

In an interview with CBS correspondent Dan Rather, Kimmitt said the photographs were dismaying.

"We're appalled," Kimmitt said. "These are our fellow soldiers, these are the people we work with every day, they represent us, they wear the same uniform as us, and they let their fellow soldiers down."

"If we can't hold ourselves up as an example of how to treat people with dignity and respect, we can't ask that other nations do that to our soldiers," Kimmitt said.

"60 Minutes II" identified one of the implicated soldiers as Army Reserve Staff Sgt. Chip Frederick, who described to Rather what he saw in the Iraqi prison.

"We had no support, no training whatsoever, and I kept asking my chain of command for certain things, rules and regulations, and it just wasn't happening," Frederick said, according to a CBS News release.

"60 Minutes II" also quoted from an e-mail which Frederick reportedly sent to his family in which he said of Iraqi prisoners: "We've had a very high rate with our styles of getting them to break; they usually end up breaking within hours."

At the news briefing in Baghdad, Kimmitt said the abuse allegations had triggered reviews of the command structure that oversees detentions in Iraq and of the interrogation procedures used in detention facilities.

"We are committed to treating all persons under coalition custody with dignity, respect and humanity," Kimmitt said. "Coalition personnel are expected to act appropriately, humanely and in a manner consistent with Geneva Conventions."

A senior U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said investigators have recommended administrative punishment for a number of commanders at Abu Ghraib. The official would not give details on the recommended punishments or how many commanders faced action.

Amnesty International, the London-based human rights group, said in March that many former detainees in Iraq claimed to have been tortured and ill-treated by coalition troops during interrogation.

Methods often reported, it said, included prolonged sleep deprivation, beatings, exposure to loud music and prolonged periods of being covered by a hood.
§US Troops Are Trained To Be Monsters
by Do We Really Want US Troops Comming Home
Correspondent Dan Rather talks to one of those soldiers. And, for the first time, 60 Minutes II will show some of the pictures that led to the Army investigation.

According to the U.S. Army, one Iraqi prisoner was told to stand on a box with his head covered, wires attached to his hands. He was told that if he fell off the box, he would be electrocuted.
...

60 Minutes II talked about the prison and shared pictures of what Americans did there with two men who have extensive interrogation experience: Former Marine Lt. Col. Bill Cowan and former CIA Bureau Chief Bob Baer.

"I visited Abu Ghraib a couple of days after it was liberated. It was the most awful sight I've ever seen. I said, ‘If there's ever a reason to get rid of Saddam Hussein, it's because of Abu Ghraib,'” says Baer. “There were bodies that were eaten by dogs, torture. You know, electrodes coming out of the walls. It was an awful place."

"We went into Iraq to stop things like this from happening, and indeed, here they are happening under our tutelage,” says Cowan.

...

It was American soldiers serving as military police at Abu Ghraib who took these pictures. The investigation started when one soldier got them from a friend, and gave them to his commanders. 60 Minutes II has a dozen of these pictures, and there are many more – pictures that show Americans, men and women in military uniforms, posing with naked Iraqi prisoners.

There are shots of the prisoners stacked in a pyramid, one with a slur written on his skin in English.

In some, the male prisoners are positioned to simulate sex with each other. And in most of the pictures, the Americans are laughing, posing, pointing, or giving the camera a thumbs-up.

...

Part of the Army's own investigation is a statement from an Iraqi detainee who charges a translator - hired to work at the prison - with raping a male juvenile prisoner: "They covered all the doors with sheets. I heard the screaming. ...and the female soldier was taking pictures."

There is also a picture of an Iraqi man who appears to be dead -- and badly beaten.

"It's reprehensible that anybody would be taking a picture of that situation,” says Kimmitt.

But what about the situation itself?

“I don't know the facts surrounding what caused the bruising and the bleeding,” says Kimmitt. “If that is also one of the charges being brought against the soldiers, that too is absolutely unacceptable and completely outside of what we expect of our soldiers and our guards at the prisons."

Is there any indication that similar actions may have happened at other prisons? “I'd like to sit here and say that these are the only prisoner abuse cases that we're aware of, but we know that there have been some other ones since we've been here in Iraq,” says Kimmitt.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/27/60II/main614063.shtml
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by Anti-Fascist
The horrors perpetrated by the US military are even worse at the illegal hellhole at Guantanamo. The US military is the same as the Nazi military. These are vicious, evil thugs and should be treated as such. At least in Iraq, these soldiers are inhaling depleted uranium, and thus do not have long to live. The stinking thugs perpetrating the crimes against humanity in Guantanamo are just eating junk food and they just might show their Nazi faces in the US again.
by Adam
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by Bony Finger
are now being run by Americans.
by Adam
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by Alan Ray-Jones (alan [at] talk21.com)
The publication of these pictures by CBS (which seem to have been effectively suppressed on the Internet) is perhaps a sign that the US public may in future get a more balanced account from the media of what is being done in their name in Iraq. Even Tony Blair has said that he is appalled by them. Amnesty International say there are many other cases of cruelty which have not yet been investigated. Democracy requires there be no cover-up.
by PaaP
This is sickening !

What else can be said?

It makes my stomach turn and my heart and spirt cry!!!!!
by Head (bob [at] bomail.com)
Thats sick like goatse!

American soldiers suck balls, those sick bastards!

Dodger is fat.
by now we know
Now we know why people might be motivated to brutally lynch private contractors in Iraq. They are the plausible deniability the army needs to run torture centers there.
by noor
We supposedly went to Iraq to liberate the people from the horrible regime of Saddam Hussein to replace it with such utter indignity. I don't care what the excuses or explanations are; is this what America stands for? As an American-Muslim I have tried to believe in the honor of this country, but day by day, it becomes impossible. This is not to say, that everyone in the army has acted in this way, but war is an ugly thing and tends to make monsters out of men and women. More than killing them, making Muslim men act in this way is against the very dignity of their being. What have the Iraqi people done to deserve such inhumane treatment? First from their own government then from foreign soldiers who taunt and then take freakin' pictures of the whole thing so as to gloat? What's the difference between the Nazis and these soldiers? They treat human-beings worse than animals. When I think of this, I want to vomit in disgust.
by cp
Yes, - the fact that they took the pictures is significant. They knew they would have to get them developed somewhere. If they hadn't taken pictures, any allegations by Iraqis would be completely blown off. The US soldiers didn't fear being associated at all. I guess I can understand how people might become bad really fast - the pattern's been repeated over and over through history
by Bob
Although I was very disgusted and appalled by the actions of our soldiers at the Baghdad prison in Iraq, I wasn't at all surprised. For even in this country, in this day and age, the value of a human life is still expendable when that life in not representative of the majority. America has a long dark history of merciless behavior towards the lives of its own, and the actions of these soldiers documented in this broadcast only illustrates the old adage that "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree."
by argus
Not like the torture photos, but disturbing as well:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/sleepinspring/48306.html
by cp
Hey, does anyone know anything about Camps Park Reserve Training area near Dublin/Pleasanton http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/camp-parks.htm

The television showed mercenaries training for those security positions for contractors in Iraq, and they said it was in Dublin, and this is all I could find in Dublin, - but it sounds like it is for this list of regular army divisions.

It showed the mercenaries wrecking a bunch of cars in a training session where they set up a scenario where their opposition would have a roadblock traffic jam and would start shooting at them, and then they would plow through the cars and sometimes get out and shoot back.
by Craig
To the American-muslim. I am truely sorry for what has happened. War will indeed give Satan a better chance to do his will in the lives of all nationalities. There is no doubt that these soldiers will pay for this crime and there-in lies the American way. We as a people are already speaking out in disgust and showing that this will not be tollerated. Injustices will happen, it's how a nation responds that show what that country is made of. What would have happened to soldiers who behaved similarly under Sadam? Nothing. The struggle to serve God as a country is a never ending war and we just lost a battle.
by steve
The silver lining here, I think, is the whistle blowers. The soldiers who proved their metal by refusing to partake in the atrocities and turned in their fellow soldiers. I think it's been overlooked, but it takes a lot more guts to turn in guys you've been utterly brainwashed to band together with at all costs (because your life may depend on it), and take a moral stand. It never happened in Germany or Japan during WWII, as far as I'm aware. It could have easily been covered up as often (always?) happens, even in my own local police department when a loose cannon fires off at innocent civilians (especially if they're black). I hear people making excuses: "they're morals die on the battlefield.....bla bla bla" Horse shit. The guys who turned in the photos were on the battlefield taking as much flak as anyone else, but somehow their morals survived. You guys are my heroes.
I wonder if Bush has thought about using these pictures to convict Saddam of the torture of Iraqis. Oh wait a minute it is us now doing the torture.

I am a proud American, who bleeds red, white and blue, but today I feel ashamed for the terrorist acts we now seem to be comiting in the name of Justice for 9-11.

We should save these tactics for Osama and those who harbor terrorist not some poor Iraqi that never harmed us until we invaded their country.

These photos will only foster more hate from Islamic extremist.
by Stacey (chalumet [at] yahoo.com)
There are some things which have been blocked out for the sake of modesty--what modesty can be salvaged after being put to these acts.
by cp
What's that? It's hard to figure out what is going on there, but it doesn't look faked. Where are other pictures? These keep coming out every other day.
by Pirate Prentice
URL The arabic website "http://www.albasrah.net/images/iraqi-pow/iraqi-pow" contains some pretty explicit photographds depiciting both male snd femail iraqis being raped and/or forced tohave oral sex with american solders. It's disgusting, but isn't that the way occupying troops have always behaved, particularily in hostile territories Why should Bush, the congess, or anyone else expect .American troops to behave differently. Particularily when they are implicirly encouraged by the military to do so.
by Pirate Prentice
Those rape photos that are are copied from Hungarian and American sex sites according to a jounalst on worldnetdaily.com. I should really check sources before I post.
by TS (Guernica1933 [at] yahoo.com)
What's the difference between Saddam and Bush? Nothing!


Abu Ghraib prison was used for torture in Saddam's time
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