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Will SF MARRY-IN run till 11AM Tuesday?
If same-gender couples wish to marry in San Francisco, they should do so BEFORE 11AM on Tuesday, Feb. 17.
MARRY-IN runs until 11AM on Tuesday?
Dear freedom-seekers.
When is the last chance for same-sex couples to marry in San Francisco?
My best GUESS: 11 AM on Tuesday, 17 February 2004.
Would-be spouses should go to SF City Hall on Monday, Feb. 16, from 10AM onward.
If that's not possible, then they should show up before 8AM on Tuesday morning.
To be successful they must hurriedly get a license, have their wedding ceremony, and get their used license officially "recorded", all at SF City Hall, BEFORE freedom-hating fascists can get a court order to stop the historic San Francisco Marry-In.
The fascists cannot prevail before 11AM on Tuesday, when the first of two separate legal hearings will begin. After 11AM, risk grows by the minute. If you want to do this, make haste! This unique window of SF same-sex opportunity may not re-open for years --- or decades.
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TWO LAWSUITS WILL BE HEARD ON TUESDAY
On Tuesday, 17 February 2004, TWO separate court hearings will be held on legal challenges to SF's new policy of issuing licenses for same-gender weddings, according to the S.F. Chronicle
<http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/14/MNG3R517C21.DTL>.
The first hearing will occur at 11AM, before Superior Court Judge Ronald Quidachay, on a suit brought by the "Campaign for California Families".
The second will begin at 2PM, before Superior Court Judge James Warren, at 400 McAllister (near City Hall), on a suit brought by the "Proposition 22 Legal Defense and Education Fund".
I'm guessing that Judge Quidachay may also be at 400 McAllister, which houses SF's main CIVIL courtrooms (as contrasted with the more famous criminal courtrooms on Bryant Street).
In which "department" (courtroom) will these hearings be held? Try calling the "Civil Law & Motion" office, at (415) 551-4026, on Tuesday morning.
EITHER hearing could produce a Temporary Restraining Order, perhaps effective on Tuesday, which would prevent the City from issuing any more marriage licenses to same-gender couples.
So if you want to act, do so quickly -- on Monday, or early on Tuesday morning.
Carpe diem!
Tortuga Bi LIBERTY,
for SUN of San Francisco
Monday, 16 Feb., around 10:45 AM
Dear freedom-seekers.
When is the last chance for same-sex couples to marry in San Francisco?
My best GUESS: 11 AM on Tuesday, 17 February 2004.
Would-be spouses should go to SF City Hall on Monday, Feb. 16, from 10AM onward.
If that's not possible, then they should show up before 8AM on Tuesday morning.
To be successful they must hurriedly get a license, have their wedding ceremony, and get their used license officially "recorded", all at SF City Hall, BEFORE freedom-hating fascists can get a court order to stop the historic San Francisco Marry-In.
The fascists cannot prevail before 11AM on Tuesday, when the first of two separate legal hearings will begin. After 11AM, risk grows by the minute. If you want to do this, make haste! This unique window of SF same-sex opportunity may not re-open for years --- or decades.
....................
TWO LAWSUITS WILL BE HEARD ON TUESDAY
On Tuesday, 17 February 2004, TWO separate court hearings will be held on legal challenges to SF's new policy of issuing licenses for same-gender weddings, according to the S.F. Chronicle
<http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/14/MNG3R517C21.DTL>.
The first hearing will occur at 11AM, before Superior Court Judge Ronald Quidachay, on a suit brought by the "Campaign for California Families".
The second will begin at 2PM, before Superior Court Judge James Warren, at 400 McAllister (near City Hall), on a suit brought by the "Proposition 22 Legal Defense and Education Fund".
I'm guessing that Judge Quidachay may also be at 400 McAllister, which houses SF's main CIVIL courtrooms (as contrasted with the more famous criminal courtrooms on Bryant Street).
In which "department" (courtroom) will these hearings be held? Try calling the "Civil Law & Motion" office, at (415) 551-4026, on Tuesday morning.
EITHER hearing could produce a Temporary Restraining Order, perhaps effective on Tuesday, which would prevent the City from issuing any more marriage licenses to same-gender couples.
So if you want to act, do so quickly -- on Monday, or early on Tuesday morning.
Carpe diem!
Tortuga Bi LIBERTY,
for SUN of San Francisco
Monday, 16 Feb., around 10:45 AM
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Judges Warren and Quidachay are the 2 law and motion judges, Warren being in Dept. 301 and Quidachay in 302, both at 400 McAllister, across the street from City Hall. Calling the courts is an endless loop of phone numbers, all of which can be found at:
http://sfgov.org/site/courts_page.asp?id=3673
In Law and Motion, tentative rulings are given on the court day before. If you know the action number, you could get the tentative ruling. My guess on these two cases is that the ruling is simply that all parties must appear.
The judges do not have to issue the requested injunctions. This is a civil rights issue and I am sure the judges can come up with a civil rights law, if not the US Constitution itself, to justify same sex marriage licenses. More likely, they could toss both suits saying that the plaintiffs did not have legal standing or they did not meet some technical requirement. The fascists would then have to appeal, thus making these 2 cases test cases, which is obviously what is wanted, perhaps more by the pro-same sex marriage license people, because Prop 22 is the law that is being challenged. Conversely, they could both issue the injunctions, which the pro-gay marraige people could appeal, also making these 2 cases test cases.
With gay marriage being allowed in some European countries and 2 Canadian provinces, and with a very large and strong gay rights movement in this country, these anti-gay marriage laws like Prop 22, supported by Democrats Clinton, Gray Davis and others, as well as Republicans, are sure to fall sooner or later.
One thing we all know is that by the end of this decade, the 39% of us who voted No on 22 will become 51% as the gay rights issue is a generational issue, with the younger generations more supportive of gay rights than older generations, overall, with due respect to those older people who voted No on 22 and support gay marriage. After all, we have had 34 years of gay rights parades in this country, so the people under age 44 have no memory of the terrible era before the current gay liberation movement, when all of this would simply have been unthinkable.
This is certainly an historic moment, but much more needs to be done to address the needs of the workingclass, namely eliminating poverty, to make possible any advances in civil rights. Court cases are not enough; a civil rights movement needs a broad base of support, rooted in the community that has the least vested interest in maintaining the rotten status quo, namely the workingclass. To advance, the gay liberation movement must build more alliances with the workingclass. That was the lesson of the great gay liberation freedom fighter, Harvey Milk, who organized labor, tenants, non-whites and gays (overlapping groups, of course) to make possible his election to the Board of Supervisors as the first openly gay supervisor in San Francisco in 1977. Milk's weakness was that he was a registered Democrat. There can be no advances with the Democratic Party. He succeded in spite of the Democratic Party. There is certainly no advancing with election-frauder, anti-tenant Gavin Newsom.
http://sfgov.org/site/courts_page.asp?id=3673
In Law and Motion, tentative rulings are given on the court day before. If you know the action number, you could get the tentative ruling. My guess on these two cases is that the ruling is simply that all parties must appear.
The judges do not have to issue the requested injunctions. This is a civil rights issue and I am sure the judges can come up with a civil rights law, if not the US Constitution itself, to justify same sex marriage licenses. More likely, they could toss both suits saying that the plaintiffs did not have legal standing or they did not meet some technical requirement. The fascists would then have to appeal, thus making these 2 cases test cases, which is obviously what is wanted, perhaps more by the pro-same sex marriage license people, because Prop 22 is the law that is being challenged. Conversely, they could both issue the injunctions, which the pro-gay marraige people could appeal, also making these 2 cases test cases.
With gay marriage being allowed in some European countries and 2 Canadian provinces, and with a very large and strong gay rights movement in this country, these anti-gay marriage laws like Prop 22, supported by Democrats Clinton, Gray Davis and others, as well as Republicans, are sure to fall sooner or later.
One thing we all know is that by the end of this decade, the 39% of us who voted No on 22 will become 51% as the gay rights issue is a generational issue, with the younger generations more supportive of gay rights than older generations, overall, with due respect to those older people who voted No on 22 and support gay marriage. After all, we have had 34 years of gay rights parades in this country, so the people under age 44 have no memory of the terrible era before the current gay liberation movement, when all of this would simply have been unthinkable.
This is certainly an historic moment, but much more needs to be done to address the needs of the workingclass, namely eliminating poverty, to make possible any advances in civil rights. Court cases are not enough; a civil rights movement needs a broad base of support, rooted in the community that has the least vested interest in maintaining the rotten status quo, namely the workingclass. To advance, the gay liberation movement must build more alliances with the workingclass. That was the lesson of the great gay liberation freedom fighter, Harvey Milk, who organized labor, tenants, non-whites and gays (overlapping groups, of course) to make possible his election to the Board of Supervisors as the first openly gay supervisor in San Francisco in 1977. Milk's weakness was that he was a registered Democrat. There can be no advances with the Democratic Party. He succeded in spite of the Democratic Party. There is certainly no advancing with election-frauder, anti-tenant Gavin Newsom.
For more information:
http://sfgov.org/site/courts_page.asp?id=3673
Has anyone heard if the courts rule against us if there is a demonstration planned? I'm looking everywhere and can't find any information.
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