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Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: "All evil stems from Ashkenazis"
by repost
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 8:35 AM
The spiritual leader of Israel's ultra-Orthodox Shas party for Sephardic Jews has accused Ashkenazi Jews of being the source of all evil, according to the Maariv daily on Wednesday.
by Agencies • Wednesday November 26, 2003 at 04:36 PM

The spiritual leader of Israel's ultra-Orthodox Shas party for Sephardic Jews has accused Ashkenazi Jews of being the source of all evil, according to the Maariv daily on Wednesday. "You the Jewish Ashkenazis, you have been in the West, in hell. Why did you come here? What you say or do is of little importance," he said.


JEWISH TENSIONS BOIL OVER
Wednesday 26 November 2003,

Attacks on two synagogues and a school have caused various Jewish groups around the world to start blaming each other for deteriorating security.

The spiritual leader of Israel's ultra-Orthodox Shas party for Sephardic Jews has accused Ashkenazi Jews of being the source of all evil, according to the Maariv daily on Wednesday.

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef said during a lecture on the Torah in Jerusalem that "all evil stems from the Ashkenazis".

The 80-year-old rabbi is not a representative of some fringe movement - Shas has 11 MPs in the 120-member Israeli parliament.

The party claims to represent Sephardic Jews from the Mediterranean and Middle East and Rabbi Yosef is considered a leading expert on the Torah.

Fire and brimestone

The religious scholar has previously caused controversy with a speech in which he called for Arabs to go to hell.

But this time he targeted Israel’s Ashkenazi Jews – who migrated from central and eastern Europe following World War II.

"You the Jewish Ashkenazis, you have been in the West, in hell. Why did you come here? What you say or do is of little importance," he said.

Internationally, tensions are just as high.

Scores of self-styled "Torah True Jews" based in the United States have criticised Israel’s continuing attempt to refer to itself as ‘the Jewish State’.

Jewish anti-Zionists

In a high profile email campaign last Wednesday, thousands of people received a stark warning of "the danger Zionists were placing on Jews worldwide".

Rabbi Dovid Feldman told Aljazeera.net that a silent majority of Jews opposed the Zionist ideology which led to the creation of modern Israel.

Calling themselves True Torah
Jews, some rabbis denounce IsraelFeldman claims there are many more rabbis and others who sincerely practice their faith that hold similar opinions all round the world.

The message urged would-be-emigrants not to believe that events in Istanbul or France "make it necessary for Jews to leave their native countries and move to the most dangerous place on Earth for the Jewish People."

Response to Sharon

The campaign came in response to comments made on 17 November by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

The PM told journalists at a hotel in Rome: "The best solution to anti-Semitism is immigration to Israel. It is the only place on Earth where Jews can live as Jews."

The invitation has been received coldly by The True Torah campaign and by some eminent religious scholars.

Feldman and the late rabbi, Yoel Teitelbaum, extensively promoted a theological position that requires Jews to condemn the foundation of the secular state of Israel.

The rabbi claims the Zionist movement rejects all of the fundamental principles of Torah and insists Jews do not need a state of their own, adding the very establishment of a "Jewish" state is a grave violation of tradition and law.

Second campaign

In a letter addressed to US President George Bush and published in the Washington Post in September, the website "jewsagainstzionism" applauded the sentiment.

"They [Israelis] don’t represent the Jewish people in any way whatsoever. They have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people.

"We deplore acts and policies carried out by those who – misusing the name of Israel – have substituted the ideal of nationalism for the teaching of the holy Torah."

The website also criticised Tel Aviv’s policy of filling people with fear and paranoia in order to realise their goal of bringing more immigrants into the country who are to "serve as cannon fodder in the Zionist war against the Palestinians".

english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/2943BEB3-FF4E-4436-B5E8-91C494187230.htm
by A curious reader
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 9:02 AM
Somehow I'm having this odd feeling creeping up my spine that W. Campbell a.k.a Windy Out Wendy will seize what she may be considering a golden opportunity to blacken Ashkenazi Jews utilizing the Khazar canard.
by pointer
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 10:09 AM
Click here:

http://www.imninalu.net/Khazars.htm
by This post clearly should be hidden
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 11:16 AM
"Ashkenazi Jews of being the source of all evil"

Calling any ethnic group, independent of their origin, "the source of all evil" is racist and should not be allowed on this site.
by Why?
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 11:30 AM
you write: "Calling any ethnic group, independent of their origin, "the source of all evil" is racist and should not be allowed on this site."

But if it demonizes Israel, isn't it ok? That's a constant theme of this site.
by Finally a Jewish Rabbi spills the beans
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 1:03 PM
People like gehrig and his ilk just can't stand it when a Jewish person, a RABBI even, openly breaks away from the Zionist propaganda, even criticizes it and actually makes it into the news. Of course, the mainstream media won't print it, because the Zionists control mainstream media. But thank God for the internet is all I can say! Thank God for Indymedia! Thank God for freedom of speech! God bless America! We the people want America back! We are the United State of America NOT the United States of Israel!
by Finally a Jewish Rabbi spills the beans
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 1:05 PM
People like gehrig and his ilk just can't stand it when a Jewish person, a RABBI even, openly breaks away from the Zionist propaganda, even criticizes it and actually makes it into the news. Of course, the mainstream media won't print it, because the Zionists control mainstream media. But thank God for the internet is all I can say! Thank God for Indymedia! Thank God for freedom of speech! God bless America! We the people want America back! We are the United States of America NOT the United States of Israel!
by Jews have no right to self-determination
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 1:10 PM
Jews have no right to self-determination at the expense of others, which in Israel-Palestine, are the non-Jewish Palestinians.

Israel must and will transform into a true, secular democracy with equal rights for all including all the Palestinian refugees who have the inalienable rigth to return to their ancestral homeland according to UN Resolutions, International Law and world opinion.

We the people are demanding an end to our government's support of apartheid Israel as a Jewish state that discriminates against non-Jews, especially the indigenous non-Jews, the Palestinians.
by Harding
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 3:06 PM
I just love this tradition of smearing! Quite a Tradition!
by azerty
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 3:36 PM
Gehrig your racisim realy is showing, you wanted an example see above: "Ah, but the Palestinian right to self-determination coming at the expense of teenagers blown up in pizza parlors, buses, and blues clubs..."

You are too easy!
by duh dee duh
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 5:23 PM
IN CASE gehrig did not notice, Jews do have self-determination in Israel and the Palestinians do not. DUH.
God help us with idiots like gehrig around. He believes HE is the ultimate expert on Judaism. It must be great to be a legend in your own mind, gehrig. AS IF Jews all agree on anything! But gehrig thinks he's got ALL the answers. Yeah, right. NOT.

Surely Jews could have self-determination in a democratic Israel, but then again Israel is NOT a democracy now is it. Israel is a theocracy with equal rights for Jews only and the Ashkenazi Jews dominate over there in Israel-- everyone who knows anything about Israel will tell you that. Most of them are from Russia and Eastern Europe. They are all White Jewish Supremacists.

Surely, if Palestinians were allowed equal rights, liberty and justice like in a REAL democracy, there would be no outrages such as suicide bombers. Racists Israelis know that, but they prefer to sacrifice Jews on the alter of Zionism to achieve their racist idea of a Jews only state. Give it up. That is not going to happen, nor should it.

We demand equal rights for all, and no double standards.

The neocons talk about bringing "democracy" to the Arab world-- ha ha ha! Let's start with Israel first!
by Huh?
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 7:46 PM
There are over 30 countries with Islam as the official religion. Of those, 21 countries define themselves as Arab, and are members of the "Arab League" - not the "Middle East League" but the Arab League. They define themseles by their ethnicity/race and their religion.

Yet if the Jews do that, they are racist and evil. What about the Arab countries?

Seems hypocritical do just target Israel for something that's happening in many, many other countries - but it's usually worse because most of the countries are lead by unelected dictators and/or monarchs.

Strange.
by anti-Zionist
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 11:04 PM
"Other people do it, too," is not an excuse.
by ok
Thursday Dec 11th, 2003 12:37 AM
So OK maybe one or two Israeli Jews aren't Jewish White Supremacists. They are so silent, I forgot about them! Silly me! Maybe I forgot because twice they voted in Sharon, the Butcher of Beirut! Overwhelming too!
by OK...
Thursday Dec 11th, 2003 12:39 AM
So OK, maybe one or two Israeli Jews aren't Jewish White Supremacists. They are so silent, I forgot about them! Silly me! Maybe I forgot because twice they voted in Sharon, the Butcher of Beirut! Overwhelmingly too!
by anti bullshit
Thursday Dec 11th, 2003 3:33 AM
You should have someone read your drivel out load for you to realize how ludicrous you sound.

by Well then
Thursday Dec 11th, 2003 6:49 AM
Why aren't you actively campaigning against all the other countries that do it too?

I wonder how many minority parliamentarian legislators there are in Lybia, Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Yemen, etc...

It seems to me it is one thing to be in support of a Palestinian state and ending the occpation of the West Bank and Gaza (which I fully support), but it seems another to be forcing both parties into a situation they don't want.

Look at the Palestinian Constitution:

http://www.mopic.gov.ps/constitution/constitution.asp

It speaks of Arab/Muslim unity, control, idenity, etc. It does not seem all that interested in Multicultural, shared, equal rights.

What's wrong with having two states, where both majorities control their respective fates? I agree it's not a perfect solution, but we're not in a perfect world. Not every country has to be like Canada or America - in fact, most countries are not. So why all the anti-Israel focus but not anti-all the other countries that have much worse records with respect to human rights, women's rights, homosexual rights, voting rights, etc...

Again, I am not saying Israel is perfect - far from. As the U.S. is far from perfect. But it seems there are so many other places in dire need of change.

Anyway, I realize I might have just pissed off some partisan elements and I'm sorry for that. Just trying to add to the debate.

Cheers.
by anti-Zionist
Thursday Dec 11th, 2003 8:50 AM
>Why aren't you actively campaigning against all the other countries that do it too?

The corporate media have that covered. We're filling in the part they left out.
by gehrig' s "generous" offer
(cfb@alreadypublished) Friday Dec 12th, 2003 9:20 AM
What my comment _does_ is acknowledge that there are such things as Palestinian suicide bombers taking out buses, discos, and pizzarias[sic]

What your implicitly racist dribble refuses to recognize is the cause of Palestinian violence, gehrig. Let me show you - again - how Israelis set out to make their neighbors want to kill them.


ABC News, March 22, 2002
Real Media report (1.9mb)


prfy00.jpg"In the hours after Israel invaded Bethlehem’s Al Aida refugee camp two weeks ago, the ABC found Ismael Huwaja at Bet Jala hospital. He’d just learned of his wife’s death. He told us that after Israeli troops had blown the door of his house in, she’d been left to bleed to death while waiting for an ambulance.

prfy01.jpg"At the time, Israel’s army said it couldn’t confirm what had happened. Foreign press were banned from entering the camps during the operation. But Israeli TV journalists were allowed to accompany the raids, and now one network has broken an army embargo on showing pictures that embarrass it. Those pictures describe exactly what did happen in the Huwaja house that day.

prfy06.jpg"The soldiers blew the door apart and found Huda Huwaja mortally wounded on the floor.

 

 

 

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And so, Israeli television viewers got to see Ismael Huwaja plead with the soldiers for help to bring in an Ambulance,
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knowing troops on the edge of the camp weren’t allowing medics in.

 

Throughout, the Huwaja children are watching the soldiers,
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and watching their mother dying.

prfy16.jpg"prfy19.jpg"After more than an hour, Huda Hawaja is finally evacuated to hospital – she arrived dead.

Meanwhile the troops busy themselves with the task of smashing through a wall into an adjacent home,

 

 

as one girl begs the soldiers to stop.
prfy20.jpg"please!

The army admits, Huda Hawaja shouldn’t have died this way.

OLIVER RAFOWICZ, Israeli Army Spokesman:
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”It’s a mistake. Honest, terrible mistake

In another scene, the troops finding neither weapons nor wanted men, are told not to break too much.prfy22.jpg"

 

 

 

 

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Just turn everything completely upside down,” says the commanding officer, “so they’ll have some hours of work to do when we go.”

After Israel’s channel 2 ran the pictures, the whole incident made it onto the front page of one of Israel’s largest newspapers. “A gaffe – a stuff up”, it reported.

The Israeli government’s response hasn’t been to condemn what happened in Al Aida camp, despite the fatal injury to the woman, the distress of her children, and the crucial delay of the ambulance. What the government has been concerned about, is that the story made it to air.

RAANAN GISSIN: Israeli Government Spokesman:

prfy24.jpg"I would have expected a little bit more, I would call it, errr, ‘self-censorship’ on the part of the Israeli media, the same as was deploy…displayed during various phases of the operation Afghanistan by the American media – that’s all I want”.

And what most stung the government wasn’t so much the overall conduct of it’s troops, as the words of one of them:

 

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We’re meant to purify this camp of something dirty here”, he says, “but personally I don’t understand why a young Hebrew soldier finds himself so far from home.”

Not only did the Israeli actions in the Al Aida camp kill Huda Hawajaa woman in no way connected to the attacks on Israelis – they missed the men they were intended to round up.

A few days after the incident, a young man from Al Aida camp blew himself up in the streets of Jerusalem.

Tim Palmer, Lateline.


by sntial
Wednesday Nov 10th, 2004 8:36 AM
Why is it that the entries in this forum make so many generalized statements? I am a bit offended by the comments regarding Ashenazi Jews. I, myself, am a descendant of Ashenazi Jews and I am not the least bit elitist. I am not denying that elitism does not exist within the Ashenazi Jewish people....but surely you must agree that elitism is existent in ALL peoples all over the world. I refuse to condemn a whole group of people for the actions of others. Perhaps it may be fairer to distinguish between the politics, closed-mindeness, and agressiveness of ALL people anywhere..regardless of religion or ethnicity.For truly there are plenty of these kinds of people on all sides of warfairism,elitism, ethnic-cleansing, righteousness, etc.
Please dont lump a people together under one roof....for we do not all fit under that roof.....nor would we want to...and we certainly wouldnt want to be neighbors with anyone who would want us all to be squeezed under that roof. Please understand that by "we" I mean those of us who just accept people as mirrors of themselves and wish to overcome all the fighting...Jew, Muslim, Christian, Hindu...et al.
Thank you.