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35% of SF Adults Voted in SF Mayor's Race
As of 9:30 p.m., 12/9/03, 226,000 people voted in San Francisco's mayoral race, out of 640,000 adults in San Francisco, a city of 764,000 people, 16% of whom are children. This is what Americans brag to the world as being American democracy, better known to others as American hypocrisy.
As of 9:30 p.m., 12/9/03, 226,000 people voted in San Francisco's mayoral race, out of 640,000 adults in San Francisco, a city of 764,000 people, 16% of whom are children. This is what Americans brag to the world as being American democracy, better known to others as American hypocrisy.
Only 16% of San Franciscans are immigrants, and many immigrants are citizens.
For these non-partisan offices:
(a) Mayor
As of the same date and time, the results are:
52.57 %, 118,651 votes for Gavin Newsom (Willie Brown's whore and a Democrat)
47.43%, 107,030 votes for Matt Gonzalez (Green Party)
(b) District Attorney's race (both are Democrats and Hallinan received the endorsement of the Democratic Party, not to mention having a legendary family name in this town):
56.33%, 122,193 votes for Kamala Harris (Willie Brown's whore)
43.67%, 94,715 votes for Terence Hallinan.
The "ballots cast" figure will increase somewhat in the next couple days when the provisional ballots and absentee ballot turned in on election day are counted, but the percentage will not change much.
There was more than enough publicity about the mayor's race for those who cared to pay any attention at all.
As to the rain and the election being on a weekday, I remind everyone that this is a City that has suffered through 5 football parades, and people somehow thought nothing of taking time off from work to watch a football parade, but somehow cannot find time to vote, and somehow claim to be bothered by a little rain when it comes to voting, but not when it comes to Christmas shopping.
Every voter receives a ballot handbook about 3 weeks before election day containing, among other things:
(1) A back page that has:
(a) Polling place address next to your address
(b) Application to vote absentee. In California, anyone can vote absentee (or vote by mail) and you need only check a box to be a permanent absentee voter. Once you are a permanent absentee voter, the ballot is mailed to you in every election so you can vote in the privacy and comfort of your home on your own time and mail it right away. This eliminates all election day voting problems and is strongly advised by every experienced election person as the way to vote. This writer has never voted at a polling place. The absentee ballot usually arrives 2 to 3 weeks before election day.
(2) On page 5 of the 12/9/03 voter handbook, you will find "Your Rights as A Voter" in English (and is repeated in Spanish and Chinese) telling you, among other things, that you can vote at City Hall for 2 weeks before election day for this runoff (and in a regular election, it is 4 weeks before election day), by completing an absentee ballot at City Hall. You can also vote at City Hall the weekend before election day. Sunday, 12/7/03, was a beautiful sunny day to vote and a day off from work for most people. There really is no reason to wait until election day, a work day for most people and in the winter, probably a rainy day, to vote. There is lots of other useful information on this page as well.
(3) The voter handbook always has information on the candidates and when there are ballot propositions, information on those propositions.
The voter handbook is meant to be read and considering we all pay for this handbook, for that reason alone, much less the information, we should all read it.
Matt Gonzalez did extremely well and we can all be proud of his campaign, on which 5,000 people worked, including this writer. Only 209,000 people voted for anything in the November election, so Gonzalez increased voter turnout, a difficult thing to do in a runoff. However, no candidate can overcome this contempt for our right to vote, for which so many have died, in one election. There was a clear difference between the candidates, and Gonzalez was not a Democrat, so there was not that problem of having to choose between Democrats, which this writer will not do.
ELECTION FRAUD PADDING:
One thing is very clear, there are never 466,127 voters in any San Francisco election, although that is the number of alleged registered voters. The recall election had a "high" voter turnout of 269,000, so clearly there are 197,000 names that are of dead or moved voters that are being kept on the rolls for election fraud purposes. These names need to be purged.
WORKINGCLASS HOUSING NEEDED
Housing for the workingclass remains a primary issue and we need to raise hell to get it from Newsom. To keep up with the housing crisis in San Francisco and what you can do about it, see the website of the excellent hellraising group, the San Francisco Tenants Union, http://www.sftu.org
Only 16% of San Franciscans are immigrants, and many immigrants are citizens.
For these non-partisan offices:
(a) Mayor
As of the same date and time, the results are:
52.57 %, 118,651 votes for Gavin Newsom (Willie Brown's whore and a Democrat)
47.43%, 107,030 votes for Matt Gonzalez (Green Party)
(b) District Attorney's race (both are Democrats and Hallinan received the endorsement of the Democratic Party, not to mention having a legendary family name in this town):
56.33%, 122,193 votes for Kamala Harris (Willie Brown's whore)
43.67%, 94,715 votes for Terence Hallinan.
The "ballots cast" figure will increase somewhat in the next couple days when the provisional ballots and absentee ballot turned in on election day are counted, but the percentage will not change much.
There was more than enough publicity about the mayor's race for those who cared to pay any attention at all.
As to the rain and the election being on a weekday, I remind everyone that this is a City that has suffered through 5 football parades, and people somehow thought nothing of taking time off from work to watch a football parade, but somehow cannot find time to vote, and somehow claim to be bothered by a little rain when it comes to voting, but not when it comes to Christmas shopping.
Every voter receives a ballot handbook about 3 weeks before election day containing, among other things:
(1) A back page that has:
(a) Polling place address next to your address
(b) Application to vote absentee. In California, anyone can vote absentee (or vote by mail) and you need only check a box to be a permanent absentee voter. Once you are a permanent absentee voter, the ballot is mailed to you in every election so you can vote in the privacy and comfort of your home on your own time and mail it right away. This eliminates all election day voting problems and is strongly advised by every experienced election person as the way to vote. This writer has never voted at a polling place. The absentee ballot usually arrives 2 to 3 weeks before election day.
(2) On page 5 of the 12/9/03 voter handbook, you will find "Your Rights as A Voter" in English (and is repeated in Spanish and Chinese) telling you, among other things, that you can vote at City Hall for 2 weeks before election day for this runoff (and in a regular election, it is 4 weeks before election day), by completing an absentee ballot at City Hall. You can also vote at City Hall the weekend before election day. Sunday, 12/7/03, was a beautiful sunny day to vote and a day off from work for most people. There really is no reason to wait until election day, a work day for most people and in the winter, probably a rainy day, to vote. There is lots of other useful information on this page as well.
(3) The voter handbook always has information on the candidates and when there are ballot propositions, information on those propositions.
The voter handbook is meant to be read and considering we all pay for this handbook, for that reason alone, much less the information, we should all read it.
Matt Gonzalez did extremely well and we can all be proud of his campaign, on which 5,000 people worked, including this writer. Only 209,000 people voted for anything in the November election, so Gonzalez increased voter turnout, a difficult thing to do in a runoff. However, no candidate can overcome this contempt for our right to vote, for which so many have died, in one election. There was a clear difference between the candidates, and Gonzalez was not a Democrat, so there was not that problem of having to choose between Democrats, which this writer will not do.
ELECTION FRAUD PADDING:
One thing is very clear, there are never 466,127 voters in any San Francisco election, although that is the number of alleged registered voters. The recall election had a "high" voter turnout of 269,000, so clearly there are 197,000 names that are of dead or moved voters that are being kept on the rolls for election fraud purposes. These names need to be purged.
WORKINGCLASS HOUSING NEEDED
Housing for the workingclass remains a primary issue and we need to raise hell to get it from Newsom. To keep up with the housing crisis in San Francisco and what you can do about it, see the website of the excellent hellraising group, the San Francisco Tenants Union, http://www.sftu.org
For more information:
http://www.sftu.org
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the rest of the city knows better than to vote for someone to rule over you.
who cares which capitalist you pick to rule over you?
who cares which capitalist you pick to rule over you?
Yes it's true, a low percentage of the population did not vote. You communist, socialist, greens or whatever you want to call yourselves these days just don't get it. You're living in a bubble.
With comments like, "This is what Americans brag to the world as being American democracy, better known to others as American hypocrisy," is it any wonder that you suffer defeat again and again?
The greatest thing about democracy (follow along now I don't want you to miss this) is people have the liberty to vote or not to vote. It's their choice. That's what democracy is all about, something you Greens know nothing of.
Greens i.e. elitist malcontents, are scum sucking parasites who think they are better than everyone else and live by ideas that are proven to fail. The USSR has fallen, learn from their mistakes.
With comments like, "This is what Americans brag to the world as being American democracy, better known to others as American hypocrisy," is it any wonder that you suffer defeat again and again?
The greatest thing about democracy (follow along now I don't want you to miss this) is people have the liberty to vote or not to vote. It's their choice. That's what democracy is all about, something you Greens know nothing of.
Greens i.e. elitist malcontents, are scum sucking parasites who think they are better than everyone else and live by ideas that are proven to fail. The USSR has fallen, learn from their mistakes.
First, GOP hellraiser, Greens do not support the failed command economy policies of the USSR. No matter how many times we tell you mindnumbingly stupid people this, you don't get it. We support local business and local control of assets.
Second, its so comforting to say that people have liberty not to vote. That way you can absolve yourselves of the theft of democracy that has been going on since 1999. Every citizen has an obligation to inform themselves about what is happening and vote, or democracy doesn't work.
So now, come on, and tell us what you really mean. You oppose democracy. Then just go away. We don't care what you say or allegedly think.
Second, its so comforting to say that people have liberty not to vote. That way you can absolve yourselves of the theft of democracy that has been going on since 1999. Every citizen has an obligation to inform themselves about what is happening and vote, or democracy doesn't work.
So now, come on, and tell us what you really mean. You oppose democracy. Then just go away. We don't care what you say or allegedly think.
By what leap of logic did you come to the conclusion that GOP Hellraiser doesn't like Democracy?
His entire point, in case you missed it, is that no one is COMPELLED to vote - rather they are provided the OPPORTUNITY to vote or not to vote.
You begin your argument that Greens don't subscribe to the failed economic policies of the USSR, but then go on to support the FORCED participation of citizens in elections. So, you didn't much like centralized control of the economy, but you damn sure like totalitarian control of the populace.
And you accuse GOP hellraiser of not liking Democracy! Look in the mirror, Comrade.
His entire point, in case you missed it, is that no one is COMPELLED to vote - rather they are provided the OPPORTUNITY to vote or not to vote.
You begin your argument that Greens don't subscribe to the failed economic policies of the USSR, but then go on to support the FORCED participation of citizens in elections. So, you didn't much like centralized control of the economy, but you damn sure like totalitarian control of the populace.
And you accuse GOP hellraiser of not liking Democracy! Look in the mirror, Comrade.
Oh justicescholar, you poor pathetic fool. Your knee-jerk responses exposes the sheeple that you are. No matter how you try and disguise the Green party, it's well known that you guys are anti-everything this country stands for. The Greens want to punish those who are successful and reward criminals and perpetual, underacheiving malcontents. To put it mildly, your whole platform is to turn America into a welfare state.
Your misguided leader Matt Gonzalez constantly speaks about how successful people and business should pay their fair share. Really? What fair share do underacheiving, nose-ring, latte drinking, dreadlock wearing rabble rousing Greens pay? Notta. Squat. Zilch. They want to ride on the backs of true, hard working Americans. As soon as someone starts making too much money, there they are with their hands out wanting the piece of the pie. All they want is a free ride so they can continue with their care free, wake up whenever they want to, smoke pot, oh I'm an artist and people don't understand me, work is too hard non producing scum.
Democracy? You know nothing of democracy. Every citizen DOES not have an obligation to vote and to say that they do is to take away their freedom of choice. You stifle democracy and make a mockery of our liberties. Democracy has worked just fine for the last 200 years, you obviously need a lesson in history.
Democracy supports your failed ideology, but your failed idelogy doesn't support my belief in democracy. You're living on a one way street bub.
Idiot!
Your misguided leader Matt Gonzalez constantly speaks about how successful people and business should pay their fair share. Really? What fair share do underacheiving, nose-ring, latte drinking, dreadlock wearing rabble rousing Greens pay? Notta. Squat. Zilch. They want to ride on the backs of true, hard working Americans. As soon as someone starts making too much money, there they are with their hands out wanting the piece of the pie. All they want is a free ride so they can continue with their care free, wake up whenever they want to, smoke pot, oh I'm an artist and people don't understand me, work is too hard non producing scum.
Democracy? You know nothing of democracy. Every citizen DOES not have an obligation to vote and to say that they do is to take away their freedom of choice. You stifle democracy and make a mockery of our liberties. Democracy has worked just fine for the last 200 years, you obviously need a lesson in history.
Democracy supports your failed ideology, but your failed idelogy doesn't support my belief in democracy. You're living on a one way street bub.
Idiot!
Elections don't make this a democracy because we are not ruled by politicians but by businessmen, bureaucrats, and criminals.
For them, we don't get to vote.
For them, we don't get to vote.
phew! I was worried we were slowly sinking into that swamp.
Thanks for confirming that we're compassionate, intelligent, articulate, peace loving, decentralized, feminist . . .
Thanks for confirming that we're compassionate, intelligent, articulate, peace loving, decentralized, feminist . . .
You aren't going to make much of a case using patently sexist language to attack political oppenents of the working class. These kinds of statements are destructive and reprehensible and have no place in Left. You also give prostitutes a bad name by comparing the person in charge of prosecuting prostitutes with Kamala Harris.
Harris is a tool of the bosses, bankers, and businessmen who run this city. As a Democrat Party opportunist, she was exceeded in her willingness to do the bidding of her masters, with fewer political hesitations than Mr. Hallinan.
Hallinan is no less a political creature of the ruling class, despite his his former leftist leanings. Hey even a former Leftist street fighter like German Green Party like Joschka Fischer can become imperialist scum to. The capitalists are very forgiving for excesses of youth, they can always use a former Leftwinger to pretend that their regimes represent the people.
See: "votes for Kamala Harris (Willie Brown's whore)" in original statement.
Harris is a tool of the bosses, bankers, and businessmen who run this city. As a Democrat Party opportunist, she was exceeded in her willingness to do the bidding of her masters, with fewer political hesitations than Mr. Hallinan.
Hallinan is no less a political creature of the ruling class, despite his his former leftist leanings. Hey even a former Leftist street fighter like German Green Party like Joschka Fischer can become imperialist scum to. The capitalists are very forgiving for excesses of youth, they can always use a former Leftwinger to pretend that their regimes represent the people.
See: "votes for Kamala Harris (Willie Brown's whore)" in original statement.
Genocide, slavery, avarice, waste, and might makes right.
I have a job, an education, a home, a pet and a spouse. I work 50 -60 hrs a week. I'm not an anarchist, (although if I followed my idealism to it's end I might be), or a communist, I don't have a nose ring, I wear a suit to work and I choose to vote. I'm a Green party member. There are many like me. It's about fairness, equity and responsibility, socially, environmentally and economically.
The democracy that you are so proud of is disintegrating before your eyes. You really seem to have no idea...
It's difficult to argue with such ignorance and I'm busy, so just do me a favor and step out of your childish defensive mode for a moment and try to learn a little bit about the true Green party, or any other one for that matter. You have it all wrong.
The democracy that you are so proud of is disintegrating before your eyes. You really seem to have no idea...
It's difficult to argue with such ignorance and I'm busy, so just do me a favor and step out of your childish defensive mode for a moment and try to learn a little bit about the true Green party, or any other one for that matter. You have it all wrong.
I rent a home, I work 50-80 hours a week, I dress up for work (not always a suit though), I have a pet, I don't have any piercings, and I'm a communist. I will always do what has to be done to make a stateless, classless society, including grabbing as many resources as I can from "the system" to do it. I spend at least 30-50 hours a week (sometimes overlapping with work time) seeing to that. Greens should realize that not all revolutionaries are drop-outs and that you can be responsible to the people you love while at the same time fighting for something radical.
>do what has to be done to make a stateless, classless society,
That's communism? I thought communists had states. Or wanted to.
> including grabbing as many resources as I can from "the system" to do it.
Now *that's* anarchism.
That's communism? I thought communists had states. Or wanted to.
> including grabbing as many resources as I can from "the system" to do it.
Now *that's* anarchism.
I couldn't agree more. Just because I'm a green party memer doesn't mean I'm not working beyond that towards more "radical" goals. I just think the Green party is a good starting point. I don't assume that all revolutionaries are drop outs, but some people do. I was responding to this statement by GOP Hellraiser, "Really? What fair share do underacheiving, nose-ring, latte drinking, dreadlock wearing rabble rousing Greens pay? Notta. Squat. Zilch. They want to ride on the backs of true, hard working Americans." And he/she was just refering to Greens!
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