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Are IDF members Anti-Semites?
If Jewish members of the IDF speak out against the brutalization of innocent Palestinian civilians are they anti Semites?
It has become the automatic response that anyone who speaks out against tactics used to brutalize innocent Palestinian civilians is publicly branded an anti-Semite. Currently hundreds of IDF members are doing the same thing, are they anti Semites?
If they are why aren't they publicly branded anti-Semites, if they aren't and speaking out against the tactics used to brutalize innocent Palestinian civilians is not anti semetic past and present labeling of critics as anti semetics was/is all Sharonist b.s.
See:
Israeli Army Engaged in Fight Over Its Soul
Doubts, Criticism of Tactics Increasingly Coming From Within
Molly Moore
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, November 18, 2003; Page A01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54448-2003Nov17.html
Officers and soldiers have begun publicly criticizing specific tactics that they consider dehumanizing to both their own troops and Palestinians. And while they do not question the need to prevent terrorist acts against Israelis, military officials and soldiers are speaking out with increasing frequency against a strategy that they say has forsaken negotiation and relied almost exclusively on military force to address the conflict.
If they are why aren't they publicly branded anti-Semites, if they aren't and speaking out against the tactics used to brutalize innocent Palestinian civilians is not anti semetic past and present labeling of critics as anti semetics was/is all Sharonist b.s.
See:
Israeli Army Engaged in Fight Over Its Soul
Doubts, Criticism of Tactics Increasingly Coming From Within
Molly Moore
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, November 18, 2003; Page A01
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54448-2003Nov17.html
Officers and soldiers have begun publicly criticizing specific tactics that they consider dehumanizing to both their own troops and Palestinians. And while they do not question the need to prevent terrorist acts against Israelis, military officials and soldiers are speaking out with increasing frequency against a strategy that they say has forsaken negotiation and relied almost exclusively on military force to address the conflict.
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No, of course they are not. "Ozzie", you appear to share the confusion. The "Zionists" aren't acusing antisemites of being antisemites because they are attacking Israeli policies but because they are antisemites. You apparently are under the misconception that just having a reason (which might or might not be valid, but a reason they believe) means that some fo the people attacking Israeli policies aren't antisemites, that just having a reason makes it OK.
Well let me explain something to you. An antisemite is NOT "a person who hates Jews while at the same time believing that they have no reason fro doing so". No such people exist or have ever existed. People who hate ALWAYS believe that they have a good reason to do so. That reason may even be valid but it makes no difference as to whether their hatred is unreasonable.
I'll need to explain that, and it will be easier if for a moment we discuss it without reference to the "Zionists" and Israel. We'll take an example from right here at home.
Say a state trooper is "profiling", targeting black speeders on the turnpike. When the blacks complain the trooper defends against the accusation of prejudice by pointing out that everybody he (or she) ticketed was in fact speeding, that it is no valid excuse for a speeder to argue that "other people are speeding and you aren't stopping them". He (or she) had a perfectly good reason to give out those tickets.
OK -- how do YOU judge the situation? Is that trooper prejudiced against blacks (on the evidence)? Or is the fact that he or she had a perfectly valid reason for every ticket issued a defense against the charge? Would you consider the factual question as to whether or not this trooper was ignoring non-black speeders relevant?
There are critics of Israeli policies whom I would not classify as antisemetic. People who show at least SOME consistency in criticising similar things elsewhere, like in their own back yards especially But people who do not, people who only seem to be interested in this sort of situation when it's "Zionists", why yes, I judeg them to be antisemetic -- and whether or not their "reason" is valid or not irrelevant to that judgement..
Well let me explain something to you. An antisemite is NOT "a person who hates Jews while at the same time believing that they have no reason fro doing so". No such people exist or have ever existed. People who hate ALWAYS believe that they have a good reason to do so. That reason may even be valid but it makes no difference as to whether their hatred is unreasonable.
I'll need to explain that, and it will be easier if for a moment we discuss it without reference to the "Zionists" and Israel. We'll take an example from right here at home.
Say a state trooper is "profiling", targeting black speeders on the turnpike. When the blacks complain the trooper defends against the accusation of prejudice by pointing out that everybody he (or she) ticketed was in fact speeding, that it is no valid excuse for a speeder to argue that "other people are speeding and you aren't stopping them". He (or she) had a perfectly good reason to give out those tickets.
OK -- how do YOU judge the situation? Is that trooper prejudiced against blacks (on the evidence)? Or is the fact that he or she had a perfectly valid reason for every ticket issued a defense against the charge? Would you consider the factual question as to whether or not this trooper was ignoring non-black speeders relevant?
There are critics of Israeli policies whom I would not classify as antisemetic. People who show at least SOME consistency in criticising similar things elsewhere, like in their own back yards especially But people who do not, people who only seem to be interested in this sort of situation when it's "Zionists", why yes, I judeg them to be antisemetic -- and whether or not their "reason" is valid or not irrelevant to that judgement..
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