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Activists Distribute Red Pill to Matrix Movie Goers
by CA
Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 9:30 AM
A group of East Bay activists showed up at San Francisco movie theaters yesterday to distribute red pills, or New World Order matrix cards, to Matrix Revolutions’ moviegoers. The activists, known as Neo, Morpheus, Trinity and Agent Smith, hit the Loews and the Coronet theaters with exhortations for people to “take the red pill” and “learn about the REAL matrix that we live in."
November 6, 2003

SAN FRANCISCO, A group of East Bay activists showed up at San Francisco movie theaters yesterday to distribute red pills, or New World Order matrix cards, to Matrix Revolutions’ moviegoers. The activists, known as Neo, Morpheus, Trinity and Agent Smith, hit the Loews and the Coronet theaters with exhortations for people to “take the red pill” and “learn about the REAL matrix that we live in”.

The cards list twenty websites where people can learn about the New World Order -- the World Bank, the neo-cons, privatization, militarization, enemy creation and the corporate media -- and how these bodies and agents are working for social and structural control the world and crafting the scenarios to make it happen.

People in the lines enthusiastically started reading the cards including a Trinity Trio, three women dressed in patent leather and dark sunglasses, who instantly got the connection between the movie and the cards. “Oh, we know we are living in another matrix. These are wonderful,” one Trinity said about the cards.
§NWO Cards
by CA Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 9:31 AM
The card with twenty web sites explaining the real matrix.
§at the Coronet
by CA Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 9:31 AM
At the Coronet the reception to the cards was enthusiastic received
§Trinity and Agent Smith at the Metreon
by CA Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 9:32 AM
Securtiy eventually told the activist that they were unwelcome at the Metreon.

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by hansu
Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 10:37 AM
Talk about preaching to the converted.
They should do that at the Rep. Convention.
by Daphne Webb
(mail2webb [at] Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 10:43 AM
Those cards are brilliant!!! I'm in Denver, CO and a friend of mine wanted to go out and see that. Something about the crowd that arrived was terrifying to me. I think the Matrix series is interesting - our new Star Wars - but it disturbed me greatly to see them all try to park their oversized cars and get in line and stand in line for hours to see a movie. Giving hollywood ridiculous amounts of money. Buying Coca-Cola and Pepsi - corporations getting us hooked on their special effects.

I was so discusted, I had to leave.

I wish I had copies of that card, it would have made me feel a lot better!

Peace and Love to all,

by planetfrog
Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 11:09 AM
Its good to see the swell of conciousness that's literally building day by day, making us ever more aware that as a species we need to move quickly and not squander our inheritence on this planet.

Thank you to all those out there who remind us resistence is not futile.

Every individual is a microcosmic reflection of society, and its important for us all to remember that ultimately the more we improve ourselves , will be the way we improve the world.

Lets keep educating, and pioneering our way to a better zeigeist. What a time to be human. Never will so few owe so much to so many.

thank you for existing.

by Dave Haberman
(habkido [at] Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 1:08 PM
Finally, the veil is being lifted more and more from the eyes of the sheeple. I salute my fellow members of Zion!! ( no relation to the Zionists ), who we know have a hand in keeping the veil in place. I have felt alone since I awakened after 911. Anger, sadness, disbelief and shock.....pass away. The numb tingling sensation I experience, perhaps it's some type of quickening?
Please spread the word that it is time to take back this country. Bring our troops back home. America Awake!!Check out the New Enlightenment and the Crisis Papers web sites for a start. Watch Bowling for Columbine, read The Peoples History of the United States by Zinn.....Chi Power
by Dee Pressed
Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 2:51 PM
Too bad the red pill can't be given to all the ones in the US who can't see what the Bush administration is doing. If and when they do wake up, I just hope it isn't too late to Save the US!!!!
by Delos
Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 4:29 PM
It is a awful that the average person in this country is blind and oblivious to what is actually taking place right under our eyes and with our consent. We are living in a matrix as long as we don't know where to go to get the right information. I know that we do not have many options, but that is by design and you have to look hard to find out where to go to get the truth. Most people don't want the truth and that is the truth of the matter. The brainwashing is effective and the the mission is complete in Europe and especially America. This has been going on for a long, long time, but we can get out of this instantly. Stop participating and take your life back and stop teaching your children that it is alright that your life has been offered up as a scrafice, so that your children will not want to offer their children as a sacrifice. Let the elite fight their own wars and kill their own children and swallow their own poison.
by and refuse the red one.
Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 5:03 PM
Of course, you could just be fooling yourselves that you're 'aware' and 'awake' - instead, you're thouroughly sidelined and ineffectual. You think you're non-conformists, yet in your rejection of the 'conformity' of society, you straightjacket yourselves into smaller and smaller areas. You can't understand why people can't see the 'truth' - and YOU think you know what the truth is - but what if YOUR truth has been carefully crafted to fit YOUR individual prejudices? Which is why others won't accept it - they see different information than you do and see your version of the 'truth' as verifiably false.

Which it could well be. Truth is NOT the same no matter how you look at it. Truth is variable, depending on the viewer's inclinations and aspirations.
by but
Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 6:07 PM
Great protest idea, but it would have been better for the first Matrix movie. The third movie is so bad one hardly wants to associate activist causes with it. Do you really want to have moviegoers associating the worst movie of the year with your cause? I thought the second movie was pretty bad, but many people who liked that movie thought this one was horrible with no real plot and a lot of filler violence that didnt seem very original. Rumor even had it that Keanu wasnt in most of the movie since he could tell how bad it was going to be.
To me, we need to get over this thing of being afraid of what we'll look like if someone associates us with something else that isn't perfect.

I agree that there is a time for that - i.e., the CIA managed to use that to their advantage in their coup in Iran - but this is just a movie.

The Greens were afraid to come out against the recall for fear of being associated with the Republicans, regardless of how bad Davis was. To me, that was just sad.

In the end, when it became clear that gropernator would win, many came out against the recall with good reason. But not doing it just because people might assume the Greens are associated with the Rethugnicans is stupid. It would have been another case of the Greens needing to 'rescue' the horrific Democrat for no real reason other than the Dems own idiotic policies.

Ultimately, it all worked out, since the state party left the decision open.

But if we go around blockading every association that isn't ideal, our enemies have an easy way to isolate us. It works both ways.
by William Borgstrom
(wmborgy1 [at] Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 7:44 PM
WONDERFUL IDEA> I surf the underground news and have know this info for 13 years. I think it's time for people to remove their heads from whereever and realize we are about to fall under a Nazi- Fascist hunta from Washington. Bush and his handlers have already pulled off a coup d' and the choice is now yours, folks. Get ready to fight or buy a set of knee pads. I really feel sorry for the young people in this once great country because their lives won't be the carefree one I enjoyed in the 50's and 60's. This is a reality call coming from your friendly reps in the Beltway, and it will sweep away anyone who resists or speaks out against it. As I really think about it, the only choice to make at this late date is which weapon you perfer.
by malik shahid
(shahid@malikshahidahmedkhan [at] Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 9:32 PM
Great approach to eduacte the sheeple. It is never to late to learn about what others are saying besides the overnemnts and mainstream media. The choice is simple take the red pill, take of your blinders. Think and question of what the current NWO has given to everyone.
This is a great effort. Congratulations to all behind it. God bless you all.
by compiler
(a [at] Thursday Nov 6th, 2003 9:48 PM
by l
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 1:31 AM
The only problem I have is that many of those sites are disinfo sites. The front of the card also has references to numerology, which is a known tactic use to discredit something. I think 'agent smith' may really be a conintelpro agent!
by MoJo
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 3:41 AM
Yes. We live in The Matrix. Praise Bob!
by Bleckhammer
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 5:52 AM
True, that actions like this group undertook increases the number of sheeple that are well informed. I too have been knowing this for many years, however what I am concerned about is where is the plan of action that will turn things around? What does it take? The ballot box won,t do it. Please forgive me for saying this but Winston Churchill is quoted as saying that if he ever lost his country he'd want an Adolph Hitler to get it back.

by zeo
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 7:31 AM
One writer mentions that there is reference to numerology on the card (the number "322") and how that is used to discredit the message. That number is actually the address of the Skull in Bone's tomb in Yale and has nothing to do with using numerology purposely by the creator of that card (me). It does have however everything to do with a weird pseudo-religious, white mans' secret society where frat boys are surrounded by pictures of war and death and are instructed to believe that they are masters of the world.

Actually, that number is supposed to be right below the skull and bones on the left of the card but for artistic purposes I put it down on the base of the pyramid -- a symbol of the great plan for these NWOrder idiots.
by Hagbard Celine
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 9:24 AM
> The only problem I have is that many of those sites are > >disinfo sites.

Definitely. I am the biggest skeptic of the gov's 911 story there is, but many of those sites are playing the "blame it on the Jews" game. That is why you are hearing the "neocon Zionists rule the world" disinfo. It is meant to pull attention away from Bush's connections to the Saudis, South American Nazis, and the oil industry who were REALLY behind 911. Don't be tricked.
That "neocon/Straussian/ Zionist /chickenhawk/Perle/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitzt/Wurmser" meme is pulled right from the Larouche crowd and is meant to distract leftists from the "petrocon/Saudi/Bush/Nazi diaspora/ Rove/Norquist" cabal that is really behind 911. Israel doesn't run the US, doesn't run the Middle East, doesn't have oil and is not the problem. The problem is CIA's covert connections to radical Islam in places like Chechnya, Kashmir, Kosovo, etc. Got it? The "neocon/Straussian/ Zionist /chickenhawk/Perle/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitzt/Wurmser" conspiracy theory is really an evolution of the right-wing "jewish/communist/banker/Illuminati" conspiracy theories of the 19th Century. Unfortunately, the Berkeley Arafat-Zombies are now making those theories part of 21st Century leftist dogma. Very depressing.
by reader
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 9:52 AM
It's a shame that one of the prominent links on the card, to the People's Investigation of 9/11 isn't presently working ( Can someone contact the webmaster of that sight and see what he needs, technical assistance and/or money whatever to get it back up??
by Jeff Paterson, Not in Our Name
(jeff [at] Friday Nov 7th, 2003 10:22 AM
Here's a version Not in Our Name distributed during the release of the second Matrix.
by howberkeleycanyou . . .
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 10:24 AM
That's right folks! Berkeley is chock full of Zombies who are just in LOVE with Arafat! Haven't you noticed the bumperstickers saying "Arafat - United He Stands" amongst the millions of other ones on the old VW vans? And then these hippie zombies - no kidding! they really are dead people that came back to life! - come out and you can catch a glimpse of the morticians make-up still dripping off the skin that's showing outside of their Grateful Dead t-shirts.

It's all a **Big Conspiracy** folks, to think that the NEOCONS have anything to do with 911.

Because God really *IS* a real estate agent afterall!

So don't be fooled by the ZOMBIES! If you touch them you will die!
by Jeff Paterson, Not in Our Name
(jeff [at] Friday Nov 7th, 2003 10:32 AM
Here is a version (back side) that Not in Our Name distributed during the release of the second Matrix.
by Escape Factory Farm Products
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 10:55 AM
Take the pork pill first...
by zeo
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 11:21 AM
I love the That is hilarious! You must check out this website too:
by anti-matrix group
(antimatrix [at] Friday Nov 7th, 2003 12:02 PM
To whoever posted this message... Stop screaming "anitsemite!" and read some books. We are not anti-jewish only anti-zionists. If most zionists are jewish then thats their fault.

Read: Invisible Enemy by Edward Abboud
by count heads
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 12:40 PM
Most Zionists, and all of the most powerful ones, are (nominal) Christians. Israel is a colony. Israelis are puppets.
by David Siegel
Friday Nov 7th, 2003 6:45 PM
The truth is not subject to interpretation. Did Bush lie about the weapons of mass destruction? Did he spill the beans on the CIA operative? Did his tax cut go to the rich? Are his policies in favor of big oil domination of the Middle East? Are his policies against women's rights, education and the environmen? Of course they are. Can you say a different truth applies? If you do interpret the truth then you need the red pill. Period!
by chinditz
Saturday Nov 8th, 2003 5:51 AM
You my friend, are just plain weird, good gawd there is nothing that will convince me that you actually believe that dribble, but if you do, my simphatie's and my sincerest wishes for a speedy recovery.

Have a nice day.
by Jay
Saturday Nov 8th, 2003 8:54 AM
Thanks Jeff and NION for your card. It's great!

Chindits, the previous poster was right. All of the reasons for Bush going to war were lies, built on manufactured and manipulated evidence.

Look at who his advisors are, the same people who developed the policie papers for Project for the New American Century, which include Wolfowitz, Cheney and Feith. These papers promote the idea of American (Israel) global dominance through military might. This think tank is composed of neo-cons, followers of Leo Strauss and his uber-nation, Hegelian, utopian claptrap. These people are also sociopaths as they are ready to kill unlimited amounts people of get dominance of the world.

Don't trust me. Read their own policy papers!
by Don J.
Saturday Nov 8th, 2003 9:11 AM
I want to buy those Matrix Cards. Where could I buy them from?
by ray oram
(oram_1 [at] Sunday Nov 9th, 2003 11:52 AM
these folks do not even come close to resembling the true characters of the films. they need to go home.
by zeo
Sunday Nov 9th, 2003 11:55 PM
Ray, the intent of this action was not to look like one of the characters in the Movie but to translate a construct -- educate people to our authentic, real version of the matrix -- the manufactured reality we live in today, helped defined by Disney, fox, msnbc, the loonies in the white house, etc., and our cultural bias cultivated from childhood, and compare it to the movie version of the matrix.

The movie version goes something like this (in a very tight nutshell): computers have taken over the world and are harnessing the energy of humans to run their programs. The computers have a problem and that is that humans are dying too rapidly because of the unstimulating conditions that the computers have set up for them -- sensory depravation in a vacuum-like enviroment -- humans begin to die rapidly in these conditions, so the machines develop subroutines -- programs that make it seem that humans are living in a real, stimulating world.

Without getting in too deep into the Matrix (you can read more about the matrix in countless other websites), the purpose of the action was to highlight the manufactured world we live in.

by dbjerry
Monday Nov 10th, 2003 6:39 AM
Hey folks. This is Hollywood. It's pure fairy tale, pur fantasy. Take off the sunglasses and they're just like the rest of us. Wow, talk about having to grow up. Take a vitamin pill, it's worthwhile no matter what the color.
by bov
Monday Nov 10th, 2003 11:29 AM
The cards rock. I've had mine tacked right by the lightswitch in my room since I picked it up some time ago.

Don't let the idiots, cops, asshole anarchists, and right-wingers on here get to you. In fact, the more heat you get, the better job you're doing.

good work, keep it up.
by ?
Monday Nov 10th, 2003 4:57 PM
Whats with the Illuminati reference on the cards?

Wikipedia has a good history of that conspiracy theory:

I dont really understand why some on the left fall prey to these things. There is enough real stuff going on...
by Cam
Monday Nov 10th, 2003 7:38 PM
Actually well respected scholars like Howard Zinn, the author of the People's History of the United States also speak of the Illuminati, and he is anything but fringe. He speaks of them mainly in terms of the Trilateral Commission, Bilderburgers and the Council of Foreign Relations. Some also say they have close connections with freemasonry and the occult, kind of like the leaders of Nazi Germany.
Did Howard Zinn really fall for those conspiracy theories? The stuff I have read by him seemed very sane and not prone to such nonsense. Im hoping (guessing) that any mention was offhand and not intended to produce conspiracies. Many of the people who founded the US were masons and masonic symbolism can be seen on dollars bills, but so can ancient Roman symbolism and even Egyptian symbolism. John Adams was a Unitarian and Jefferson was a deist. The causual relationship between power and culture is often confused to create the weirdest conspiracies. If one did reserach and found that every US President had read Plato while growing up would you conclude that a secret society of Plato readers controls things? No, you would conclude that Presidents are chosen from the rich and well educated and that the schools they went to probably required reading Plato. Membership in exclusive clubs can be problematic when they act as old boys clubs where people are more likely to give jobs and government positions to people from their group (be it a frat, the boy scouts, a religion, or anything else).

There are definitely Washington think tanks with way to much power and Bush foreign policy is almost a direct take on what came out of
One doesnt have to invent stories of secret pagan worship by secret societies to find the problems in the this country, the problems with Capitalism and militarism are much more readilly apparent. By mixing real conspiracies (ie lies comming out of the Whitehouse and Pentagon) with superstitious beliefs in evil one can easilly discredit the rest of what one is saying.
by Free
Tuesday Nov 11th, 2003 1:19 AM
Stop arguing with each other. Stop writhing in such hatred for one another. The more and more you people harm each other with your violent words and your violent actions, the more and more piles of dead bodies will simply just mound up. Its very simple, once you can step outside of the situation, then you realize that its meaningless in its entirety and you should have been outside planting a tree hours ago. So please, unhook yourselves from the real matrix (your computer), and GO OUTSIDE. NO, dont drive your CAR! WALK DAMNIT! and while your at it, give a bum a quarter.

P.S. Let the anarchists and the facists kill themselves off. because in the end, it will be you and I cleaning up their mess.
by pointer
Tuesday Nov 11th, 2003 5:08 AM
Where left wing analysis and right wing analysis go wrong:

Secret societies are one of the driving forces of history. Where most right wing analysis goes astray is in failing to adequately factor class economics into the equation. Where most left wing analysis goes astray is in failing to factor in the role of secret and semi-secret societies at all.

cont. at:

by anarchist
Tuesday Nov 11th, 2003 5:29 AM
If the so-called "free world" had joined us in killing fascists in in Spain, in 1936, fascist expansionism could have been stopped in its tracks, WWII could have been averted, and thirty to fifty million people wouldn't have died needless deaths.
by Jaamaan
(jaamaan1100 [at] Tuesday Nov 11th, 2003 8:44 AM
This is an other rabbit hole website and the end is still not vissible.

This is a trail trough the digital information matrix left behind in search of Zion.

News rewire website
by asdf
Tuesday Nov 11th, 2003 11:19 AM
I find it funny that someone posted something about the right being right with their conspiracy theories:

"Where most right wing analysis goes astray is in failing to adequately factor class economics into the equation. Where most left wing analysis goes astray is in failing to factor in the role of secret and semi-secret societies at all. "

Which part of the right are you talking about? For all of its talk of "the liberal media"etc.. even extreme Republican publications like the National Review and extreme libertarian groups like the Cato Institute never mention secret societies at all. The KKK, militias and other neo-nazi groups do have conspiracies about ZOG, black helicopters and secret efforts by the UN to take over the US, but no respected right wing magazines have any mention of secret societies or similar conspiracies.

The link to something about the OSS isn’t about a secret society, unless you are prepared to call the CIA, DIA, NSA and other such agencies secret societies. They may meet in secret (and the NSA's name was secret until recently) but there is a clear difference. When people worry about the Masons or talk about ZOG, there is an underlying belief that evil actions require people to be different. Hannah Arendt's description of Adolph Eichmann provide a great contrast to how people wish to see evil; the Nazis may have used mystical symbolism to rally the German masses but many of the most evil decisions of the Nazis were made by beaurocrats acting like beurocrats (many of those behind the Hollocaust had no real hatred towards Jews they were just doing their jobs and trying to get promoted).

Since we live in a Capitalist world, money equates to power and a small group of people does hold a lot of the world’s power. Meetings by Exxon deciding on where to build a new refinery or drill for oil are in some sense secret meetings in smoke filled rooms (although smoking is usually no longer allowed in office buildings). Many of the world’s richest people do go on vacations in the same places (since they can afford to) and there are even meetings where powerful interests get together to divide up the worlds spoils (the G8, OPEC, the WTO…). But, power hungry people (or coporations) rarely get along. Think of Saudi Royal Family, Bill Gates, George Soros, George Bush and Putin; they may have a few interests in common but not that many. The world is a complicated enough place that nobody really feels like they have control over the future. Henry Ford was one of the richest people in the world during his time but he felt powerless and thought the world was controlled by a secret group of Jews. Blaming the worlds problems on one factor or one group is a way to make a complicated world seem simple, but it is both flawed and dangerous. Its almost funny (but sad) that many of the Left now see the eye on the Pyramid on dollar bills as some secret superstitious symbol when it originally was supposed to symbolize the desire for a society ruled by reason.

There has always been a link between conspiracy theories and certain trends in radical thought. Once people realize the government is lying to them they start to ask what else is a lie. When people see actions taking place that are immoral they immediately want to know how people could support such actions. The answer isn’t that hard to find. Read foreign Affairs, the National Review and reports by the Cato instute and you get a pretty clear view on where US policy comes from. Discounting human lives for higher causes (national interest, the long term health of the economy, etc.. shouldn’t come as a moral surprise to those on the radical left. Many of the most radical left groups talk in a similar fashion about deaths that will occur in a future Revolution and many Communist groups defend the actions of the USSR under Stalin. Talk of rearranging the world to fit a desired order (whether by Perl, Rumsfeld or Communist groups) seems to require a disregard for the lives of individuals.
by Robert O. Birdwell
(ROB-RICO [at] MSN.COM) Tuesday Nov 11th, 2003 12:04 PM
No, reality (the truth) is not "variable" dependent upon the perceptions, aspirations, or the predelictions of the observer. Reality is wholly independent of what you might "think."

The universe existed long before you were even aware of it, and remains in existence while you sleep. If you don't believe me, take a nap on the interstate while your car is on cruise control at eighty miles per hour.

Your "perceptions and reality-controlling aspirations" will be scooped up, along with whatever body parts, by real people with rubber gloves.

What is, is, even if you are unaware of it or fail to comprehend it. It doesn't care!
by Edófin
(Edofin [at] Tuesday Nov 11th, 2003 12:48 PM
Well, I guess you can't even think of taking the red pill if your to busy chokin on the blue pill... Our collective histories, stories, indeed even memories speak constantly of the odd and unexplained. Our current religion (science) is fascinated by them. Changing light itself even! But I guess if you want to live in a Newtonian world, you too can create this for yourself. ~Edóin
by Edófin
(Edofin [at] Tuesday Nov 11th, 2003 12:52 PM
Well, I guess you can't even think of taking the red pill if your to busy chokin on the blue pill... Our collective histories, stories, indeed even memories speak constantly of the odd and unexplained. Our current religion (science) is fascinated by them. Changing light itself even! But I guess if you want to live in a Newtonian world, you too can create this for yourself. ~Edóin
Tuesday Nov 11th, 2003 2:45 PM
I was called the morning of the event and asked by the executive producer of the show if I would ask a question at the forum. I was told the question would probably be something about Macs or PCs, but that, once I arrived in Boston, we could amend what I would ask. . . Once in Boston I was handed a note card with the Macs or PCs version of Clinton's boxers or briefs question. After reading it, I told the executive producer that I didn't see the question's relevance and had thought of one that I would like to ask instead. He took a look at my question and told me I couldn't ask it because it wasn't light-hearted enough and they wanted to modulate the event with various types of questions - mine was to be one of the questions on the less serious side. The show's host wanted the Macs or PCs question asked, not because he was wondering about the candidates' views of technology, but because he thought it would be a good opportunity for the candidates to relate to a younger audience - hence the 18- to 31-year-old audience of Rock the Vote. At this point it was clear to me that the question would be asked regardless of whether I was the person to ask it. I had to make the decision whether to actively participate in Rock the Vote by asking a question that wasn't mine and wasn't representative of me as a Brown student, or to sit in the stands uninvolved.
Your reading comprehension skills are abysmal. That “something” wasn’t “about the OSS.” It was about the OSS alumni.

Go back to school.
by asdf
Tuesday Nov 11th, 2003 5:35 PM
That CNN post is a good example of the way corporate interests lead the American public into beliefs that are not based on reality. Sorry if I sounded too critical in that last comment. I think the original post about the Matrix themed demonstration is good and describes an effective protest. The public does need to wake up and realize that the corporate media does represent certain interests that are trying to shift public opinion.

I was originally just objecting to the Illumanti reference since by bringing conspiracy theories into a protest about obvious lies one makes ones message much more ineffective. If you are trying to get a message across to the public about the War on Terrorism, will you be more or less effective if you bring up a government UFO conspiracy at the protest? Some people may think there is strong evidence that the government is hiding UFOs, but thats irrelevent to the ineffectiveness of linking the issues.

On a side note, Im not sure what to make of the last comment trying to differentiate between former OSS members and the OSS. Westpoint graduates have a lot of influence in the military. Harvard and Yale graduates have a lot of influence in both industry and government. Top private sector security firms are staffed with fomer employees from the CIA, NSA and FBI... Many executives in Silicon Valley (and Microsoft) used to be Deadheads. Are these conspiracies or secret societies?
by G. Jenkin
(thetwistedlemon [at] Wednesday Nov 12th, 2003 9:33 AM
I found it interesting that after all was said and done that in the end Neo discovered that in order to BALANCE the equation his only option left was to surrender to himself.

When we take into consideration the multi-dimensional aspect of each of us, the construct of the matrix we are currently experiencing is mind-boggling. The current feed that animates us is only one of many within time-space frequencies that connects us to our center or higher self which exists outside 3rd density earth. The polarities want us to believe that this incarnational experience is our only one and so we think we need to fight or resist the process. That is exactly what they want. The dark cannot be the dark without the light and visa versa. Its all about participating in activities that either give your power away or return it to you. Balance is the key and discovering what that means in our own lives becomes very individual.

Most people think that an awareness that they are indeed living in a kind of matrix means that they are unplugged. They think they have seen how deep the rabbit hole goes but I am observing that they, and I include myself, have only been shown what the matrix wanted them to see. So how deep does the rabbit hole really go? AND how important is replacing the illusion with truth in our own personal lives?

For me, there is nothing to fix, there is nothing to fight against. It is the process of existence that we are experiencing. It is like our house is burning down and the only thing we can do is gather our most precious gifts, experience every moment and every day to the fullest, enjoy the beauty and the art and every divine expression that comes our way, and then get out. The fire takes care of itself. It might take millions of years to burn out but it will eventually burn itself out. Most of us won't be around to watch it, and I mean from a Higher Self perspective.

Neo new exactly what he needed to do in the moment that he needed to do it because he was connected and trusted in the process. His questions were answered each step of the way and his understanding grew. The elements of creation and the elements of destruction have innate intelligence which I am learning to allow and observe with the utmost care and respect. Enjoy your observation of and/or your participation in Endgame, whatever that may be.
by 2_bee
Wednesday Nov 12th, 2003 12:10 PM
It was nice to see it when everyone had already said it was so bad, so my expectations were low, and then I enjoyed it for what it was.

But it was strange because I realized during the attack scenes on Zion - where the two women are creeping around and shooting shells at the machines - that I really cannot even imagine what it would take for someone to essentially hand over their life like that. It made me think of the many people in Iraq, willing to play this roulette game with their own lives for something the government - of which at least one member is a convicted criminal - has told them.

And it made me think that it must take more than just belief systems to do that, that it must be combination of genetic personality or trait components that are work in conjunction with those beliefs. What would it take to kill someone? That's one issue, and most people on here could answer that. But then what would it take to travel thousands of miles to go get in front of someone's face who may want to kill you? And to know that the desire to kill you is increasing every day. Why on earth would anyone do it, even if they believe that they are fighting Al Qaeda, and not Iraqi reistance (and obviously haven't read their history of the inevitable outcome of most occupations)?

I had that thought watching the movie. The insanity of what we are living through right now. How long until another bomb goes off in the US? That's when the real insanity will happen, when the right wing nationalists get their 'kill you' genes turned on and raging to go, and when the liberals cower behind their flags or their 'We support the troops' phrases as they have for 2 years now.

And if CBS is now starting to tepidly out the voting machine situation, my guess is that the Bushliar agenda is not set in stone for 2004.

And then anything is possible.
by jane
Wednesday Nov 12th, 2003 5:06 PM
Just a little note here about the Matrix movie. Not many people get the movie because they don't understand the symbolism that is repleat throughout it, much of it having to do with the Black Nobility.

The Frenchman with the blood red collar is called "Merovingian". If you look up Merovingian on the internet you will find that it references to the French dynasty who had claimed they decended from the line of Jesus Christ after his resurrection and apparent life with Mary Magdaline. The blood red of Merovingian's collar I believe indicates this blood line to christ or as call it the holy grail.

Merovingian controls the Matrix in the movie, as they current family line does in our world today, i.e, check out who sits on powerful UN committees and think tanks like the Bilderburgers, the Club of Rome, Prince Bernhart (Bilderburgers and direct line from the Merovingians and the Prince of Wales is at the head of many population control groups). They work with the international bankers for structural rearraignment of the world for their benefit. This is why "the City" or London is not part of England. It is a soveriegn state within England controlled by the Rothchilds and other banking interests and the queen has to request permission to go into "the City" from London's mayor .

Also, another note about the movie, the main programmer of the worlds is called the "Architech". Anybody familiar with Freemasonry will see the parallels.
by 2_bee
Monday Nov 17th, 2003 11:25 AM
A kinder way to say that might be "Although the movie is interpreted differently by different people, not many people are aware of the symbolic levels at which the movie operates."

Just saying not many people 'get' the movie, is inaccurate. It's not like Zork. Everyone gets something.
by mrG
Wednesday Dec 10th, 2003 12:55 PM

This is an ideal application for someone to hit the Avery-Print webservice and create a downloadable PDF suitable for home-printing these cards on card-form stock ...

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