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Rachel Corrie memorialized August 16th in San Francisco. One min. QT movie. 5MB.

by Bill Carpenter (wcarpent [at] ccsfbay.org)
The Rachel Corrie Banner Project demonstrated in Union Square in San Francisco this month. QT movie. One minute. 5MB.
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by Anti-Zionists
The Rachel Corrie Banner Project is fulfilling its commitment to demonstrate on the 16th of every month for the cause of justice and equal rights for the Palestinian people, including the right to return of all the Palestinian refugees to their ancestral homeland of Palestine-Israel.

The third Rachel Corrie Banner Project demonstration that took place at Union Square on Saturday, August 16th, was deemed a success even though only nine demonstrators parpticipated on the gloriously sunny summer day. Demonstrators felt good just to be able to exercise their freedom of speech and to get their message out to the general public, which is "Stop U.S. Support of Apartheid Israel Now".

The two, huge, two-sided banners help to not only get the message out loud and clear, but they also make the demonstrations seem larger than life.

The images of Rachel Corrie, whom the group reveres as a modern-day Saint for her immense courage and dedication to the cause of justice and equal rights for the Palestinian people which led to her martyrdom on March 16, 2003, adorn the banners. There is the famous photo of her standing in front of the bulldozer that moments later was used to murder her, and the equally famous photo of her with a thoughtful, pensive look, a beige scarf draped around her neck and sunglasses propped on her head, giving her the look of a spiritual aviator.

While many shoppers were too blasé to even accept a flyer about boycotting apartheid Israel with information from the website http://www.boycottisraeligoods.org, others were interested in learning more about Rachel Corrie and the campaign to boycott apartheid Israel.

One Zionist passer-by obscenely grabbed his groin and spit on one of the vinyl banners when passing. Another Zionist who claimed to be from Israel shouted an obsenity at the group. Yet another Iraqi-Israeli woman made a big show of tearing up one of the flyers and shouted out that she had family that was wounded in a terrorist attack. We advised her that if Israel would only transform from a racist, anti-democratic, apartheid regime into a true modern democracy with equal rights for all regardless of religion, race, ethnicity or sex, including for all the Palestinian refugees, then there would be no more suicide bombers.

On the other hand, we had several people come up to us and thank us for what we were doing.

Overall, the group felt elated to be able to get their message out to more of their fellow Americans about stopping U.S. support of apartheid Israel, as there were many people who stopped to read the banners when passing on foot, car, bus or trolley. At the very least, more and more people are becoming aware of the fact that Israel is indeed an apartheid country, and that is contrary to American ideals of equality, liberty and freedeom for all regardless of religion, race, ethnicity or sex.

The first two demonstrations were in front of Congresswoman Pelosi's office on June 16, and then Congressman Lantos' office, on July 16. The next demonstration, which will be on Tuesday, September 16th, from noon to 1:30 in front of Senator Feinstein's office at One Post St. in San Francisco. The Rachel Corrie Banner Project plans to continue with these demonstrations on the 16th of every month, until the U.S. stops supporting apartheid Israel, both financially and diplomatically.

For more information, e-mail to americansforjustice [at] earthlink.net.


by Yes, we can change
Just as America is pushing for true democracy in Arab countries, American must push for a true democracy in Israel-Palestine with equal rights for all, regardless of religion race or sex.
by X
"One Zionist passer-by....."

So he believed in Jewish Nationalism because he grabbed his crotch? Considering you didn't converse with the man calling him a Zionist is stupid. But of course "Zionist" has become a label moronic activists try to use to negatively label anyone who disagrees with the. It would be like if people on the right called anyone who had a positive opinion of Affirmative Action a Black Nationionalist or Seperatist. It would be like calling someone who is Arab who disagrees with the Patriot Act or Iraqi War an Arab Nationalist. It is illogical and simply shows that certain activists have no interest in thinking before they hand down their condemnations to people who have the audacity to disagree with them.
by Boswell
I must fully concur, Israel is truly a democratic nation.


I really need help, I used to read books for information and for learned opinions. Now television has me beholden to its' glow of light. The glass toilet, the boob tube, yes it is a symbol of our democracy.

All truth comes from this electronic device.
by one of the editors
he's a racist and a homophobe and I'm tired of reading his crap. He's banned. If he posts anything here, ever again, I will not only remove it, I will go back and remove everything he has ever posted. He's out of here. If you object, feel free to join him. It's a big net. Find a rock that suits you, and crawl right under.
by one of the editors
If I suspect that are "Dave," or even if you remind me of "Dave," or if you express any sympathy whatsoever for people like "Dave," you're out of here. This site is for decent people, not racist, homophobic scum or their friends and supporters.
by gehrig
One of the Editors: "If I suspect that are "Dave," or even if you remind me of "Dave," or if you express any sympathy whatsoever for people like "Dave," you're out of here. This site is for decent people, not racist, homophobic scum or their friends and supporters."

My, my, don't you look just _fine_ in those jackboots. Stomp around a little more for us, "one of the editors"; there's something about the sound of bootheels hitting marble tile that just screams "I'm an Indybay 'Progressive.'"

Maybe they should give decent people like you three votes.

@%<
by one of the editors
Gehrig, an avowed supporter of an ethnically based, militaristic, expansionist nationalism, (no, not Nazism, one of its clones) is talking about *jackboots*!?! It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. Hey Gehrig, how come you never criticize me when I throw an anti-Semite off the site? Is anti-Semitism the only kind of bigotry you object to? Must be, huh?

by one of the editors
Oh, and by the way, a comment by "Smart Hillbilly" was removed because he's ugly, and his mother dresses him funny.
by gehrig
Dumbfock Holmes: "Hey Gehrig, how come you never criticize me when I throw an anti-Semite off the site?"

Maybe, Dumbfock, because I usually know which antisemitic posts you're reacting to, since I see a lot of them before you do (that's your cue to do your usual brainfart about how you think I plant them in the first place, if you think it's worth the energy), but I didn't see the posts from "Dave" that got your shorts in a knot? And given that you have, in one of your periodic dervishes of comic swagger, declared yourself to be a potentate potent enough to remove any Zionist post at will for no other reason than being Zionist -- although I'm still waiting for you to provide any links to any official SF-IMC collective decision to declare the official policy that Zionism is inherently racism, rather than simply your Dumbfock-jackboot whim to say so.

Simply put, you _say_ "Dave" was racist, but the offending post is gone, so nobody can check with their own eyes, and I simply don't find your word sufficient because I've seen you careen off the rails just too many times.

Dumbfock Holmes: "Is anti-Semitism the only kind of bigotry you object to?"

You know goddamned well the answer to that, Dumbfock; you just forget it when you deem it necessary to have a bout of Strategic Alzheimers.

Dumbfock Holmes: "Must be, huh?"

Yeah, sure -- just like all those times you told me it "must be" me posting the Holocaust denial stuff, because your poor widdle bwain couldn't cough up any more rational solution, but your hate demanded you belch _something_, _anything_, about how it's prolly them wicked wicked Zionists and their goofy tricks, and it COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE anything else, no sir, huh-uh, nope, couldn't couldn't couldn't.

@%<
by Scottie
yup nessie show us the offending post. if it is as bad as you imply you can be sure most of us will drop whoever made the post like a hot potato. If not then gehreig has a point.
by gehrig
nessie: "Then show me the last time you spoke out against any other kind of bigotry."

Eat me, Il Duce.

@%<
by Webster
Boor: a guest who insults his hosts.
by gehrig
Nessie: a host who slanders a guest, and then encourages other guests to slander him as well.

@%<
by Answerer
Nessie thinks Daves opposition to reparations is racism.
by Count Folke Bernadotte
quote:
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a guest who insults his hosts.
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also called ad hominem abuse - you get a lot of it from the warriors of zion.

(eg: see any thread on Rachel Corrie)
by hah
on this message board, and in real life probably, the only kind of "racism" nessie is rabidly hateful of is the kind where jews exercise their right to self-determination in the middle east (which isn't racism). Nessie doesn't ever seem to say anything about actual real racism, anyplace else, from anyplace else.

by chosen warriors of Jehovah Elohim
====================
also called ad hominem abuse - you get a lot of it from the warriors of zion
====================


eg:
"nessie lives on another planet"

"(koranimals) "


note the intentional well-poisoning, debate-stifling and diversionary abuse of the zionists in our midst..
by Terrorists are criminals
as in most countries when you stray into crime and terrorison you give up some or all rights as a consequence of your actions. And as Palestinians openly engage in terrorism it has proven its self an out law state, not capable of self rule. above and beyond that fact,Palestiniansare not capable of self rule as documented daily. Supervision of Palestine would be the most direct way to resolve this problem. the question is who will govern and for how long. we could easily send troops from another country to run the out law province of Palestine. perhaps china might be willing to play a roll

by history buff
Terrorism is exactly how the Israelis themselves got their state. The Palestinian terrorists, a tiny minority of the Palestinian population, are merely doing what they know full well from history will work. And it will. It's only a matter of time.
§?
by history buff is a moron
** "The Palestinian terrorists, a tiny minority of the Palestinian population, are merely doing what they know full well from history will work."

You're lying now and you know it.

** "And it will. It's only a matter of time."

Are you a psychic?
by Angie

In fact, I don't think "History Buff" is a moron, nor do I think he's "lying".

Funny but tragic how that word "lies", "lying" seems to be only way supporters of their terrorist state can refute anything.
by history buff
But like the Palestinian terrorists, I too know the story of the founding of Israel. Yeah, terrorism really does work, at least for nationalists. Israel is living proof.

It would never work to create the world that I, personally, want to live in, but as a way to found a country, it excels.

America itself was founded by terrorists. In fact, its very national anthem commemorates what was essentially a shoot out with the cops. Before that, there was that incident in Boston Harbor in which private property itself was not spared from their terrorist depredations. Then there was the time they wantonly murdered at Concord and Lexington the legal representatives of the established government who had come to enforce gun control. And as if murder wasn’t terrorist enough for the America's founders, they also indulged in torture. They tarred and feathered other legal representatives of the established government, poured boiling tea down their throats, road them out of town on rails and lynched them.

Like America before it, Israel is a terrorist nation with terrorist roots. Alas, so too one day will be Palestine.
by history buff is a moron
to be psychic.

And you've just spouted some more lies. This is because you filter the contents of history books through your own prejudices.

Bottom line is, you've only convinced yourself and your like minded friends.

by history buff is a moron
and your moniker won't redeem you.

Terrorism - against non combatant Arabs - is only one of the tactics the Israelis used to throw off the yoke of the British occupation and cooperation with the local Arabs against the Zionist national aspirations. The others were a sustained diplomatic initiative and a **guerilla war** against British police and soldiers, which cannot be considerd terrorism, because the latter, unlike unarmed Arabs, were combatants.

Palestinian terrorists are a very big part (whether they're less or more than 50% of those Palestinians doesn't matter) of the Palestinian population.

The Palestinian terrorists are aiming to also destroy Israel and murder & drive out its Jews. This goal is shared by all of their factions. The evidence to this is everywhere, except to people who are intent on ignoring it, like yourself.
Last time I check, history never taught that terrorism from a non-Jewish population in or near a Jewish state got that population a state while tearing the Jewish state down.
You said they will succeed, and that it's only a matter of time. You, however, are no prophet to know these things, or another outcome, will come about at any point in time.

Bottom line, you lied and purported to be a psychic.
by Yitzahk Shamir & the Irgunazi

Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning
the Solution of the Jewish Question
in Europe and
the Participation of the NMO in the War
on the Side of Germany

(1941)


From Lenni Brenner: The Iron Wall, London 1984, pp.195-197.
Reposted here by permission
For the German original click here.
Transcribed and marked up by Einde O’Callaghan for REDS – Die Roten.


It is often stated in the speeches and utterances of the leading statesmen of National Socialist Germany that a prerequisite of the New Order in Europe requires the radical solution of the Jewish question through evacuation (“Jew-free Europe”).

The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for solving the Jewish question; but this can only be made possible and complete through the settlement of these masses in the home of the Jewish people, Palestine, and through the establishment of a Jewish state in its historic boundaries.

The solving in this manner of the Jewish problem, thus bringing with it once and for all the liberation of the Jewish people, is the objective of the political activity and the years-long struggle of the Israeli freedom movement, the National Military Organization (Irgun Zvai Leumi) in Palestine.

The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

  1. Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.
  2. Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium would be possible and,
  3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East.

Proceeding from these considerations, the NMO in Palestine, under the condition the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Israeli freedom movement are recognized on the side of the German Reich, offers to actively take part in the war on Germany’s side.

This offer by the NMO, covering activity in the military, political and information fields, in Palestine and, according to our determined preparations, outside Palestine, would be connected to the military training and organizing of Jewish manpower in Europe, under the leadership and command of the NMO. These military units would take part in the fight to conquer Palestine, should such a front be decided upon.

The indirect participation of the Israeli freedom movement in the New Order in Europe, already in the preparatory stage, would be linked with a positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem in conformity with the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Jewish people. This would extraordinarily strengthen the moral basis of the New Order in the eyes of all humanity.

The cooperation of the Israeli freedom movement would also be along the lines of one of the last speeches of the German Reich Chancellor, in which Herr Hitler emphasized that he would utilize every combination and coalition in order to isolate and defeat England.

A brief general view of the formation, essence, and activity of the NMO in Palestine:

The NMO developed partly out of the Jewish self-defense in Palestine and the Revisionist movement (New Zionist Organization), with which the NMO was loosely connected through the person of Mr. V. Jabotinsky until his death.

The pro-English attitude of the Revisionist Organization in Palestine, which prevented the renewal of the personal union, led in the autumn of this year to a complete break between it and the NMO as well as to a thereupon following split in the Revisionist movement.

The goal of the NMO is the establishment of the Jewish state within its historic borders.

The NMO, in contrast to all Zionist trends, rejects colonizatory infiltration as the only means of making accessible and gradually taking possession of the fatherland and practices its slogan, the struggle and the sacrifice, as the only true means for the conquest and liberation of Palestine.

On account of its militant character and its anti-English disposition the NMO is forced, under constant persecutions by the English administration, to exercise its political activity and the military training of its members in Palestine in secret.

The NMO, whose terrorist activities began as early as the autumn of the year 1936, became, after the publication of the British White Papers, especially prominent in the summer of 1939 through successful intensification of its terroristic activity and sabotage of English property.

etc.......

by not a psychic
a student of history. I know what works and what doesn't, because I study the past. It teaches us what to expect.
by to joe
are you refering to the Rachel Corrie adult video?
I have heard of it, but where do you find it?
can you piut up a link?
by The Occupation Betrays The Zionist Dream
In their letter, reported originally on Channel 2 television and in Yediot Aharonot, the pilots wrote: "We new and old soldiers refuse these illegal and immoral orders that have been carried out by the State of Israel. We, who were brought up to love Israel and to contribute to the Zionist ideal, cannot take part in operations in the center of populated civilian areas, and refuse to endanger innocent Palestinian civilians."

Among the signatories of the letter is Brig.-Gen. Yiftah Spector (res.), who was a squadron leader during the 1973 Yom Kippur War and is one of the IAF's most decorated pilots. Air Force officials said that of the 27 signatories, only two were in positions in which they might be asked to take part in "targeted killing" strikes against Palestinian terrorist leaders, Army Radio reported.

According to the pilots' letter, other pilots serving in the IAF who had not signed the letter were participating in a "gray refusal," in which they were avoiding signing up for combat missions which could include operations in the territories.

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