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Misrepresenting Rachel Corrie

by Adam Shapiro
a representative of the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), a Jewish group, bulldozes Rachel Corrie a second time. (Not only did the bulldozer operator see her, as a picture clearly shows, the APC spotter directing the bulldozer failed to stop it. This is standard procedure by Israeli bulldozers. Its a game of 'chicken'. He then stopped and backed over her a second time. The memorial service her for her later at the site was tear-gassed by Israeli troops....
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Misrepresenting Rachel Corrie



Washingtonpost.com April 26, 2003

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39781-2003Apr25.html



Eric Rozenman [Free for Fall, April 19] attempts to recast the perspective on the final e-mails of Rachel Corrie. By his account, she was a misled young woman with "no hint of understanding the violent situation into which she was recruited by a Palestinian 'solidarity' organization." Rozenman carefully avoids addressing the issue that brought Corrie to our attention in the first place. An Israeli bulldozer ran over an unarmed young woman without a moment's pause. No warnings, no efforts to have someone pull her out of the way. Full steam ahead! It is precisely this kind of egregious, callous treatment of Palestinians as garbage to be swept out of the way of Israelis that serves as recruitment material for pro-Palestinian causes. It also explains an increasingly vehement "anti-Israeli policy" camp among those who are otherwise pro-Jewish.

While organizations are free to name themselves whatever they want, Rozenman's submission, as a representative of the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), reveals the political agenda behind his organization's ostensible accuracy.



Robert Myers

Eric Rozenman uses isolated words in Rachel Corrie's last e-mails to her family to misrepresent her as an extremist and accuses her of "justify[ing] terrorism," when she did no such thing. Corrie -- according to her own words -- was motivated by an informed and admirable desire to confront Israel's well-documented violence against Palestinian civilians.

Rozenman portrays Israel's 1967 military occupation as an act of "self-defense." Thirty-six years into this occupation, one wonders how long it would take for Rozenman to acknowledge it as the means by which Palestinian land continues to be offensively colonized daily -- a coordinated, government-led process that does great violence to land and people and undermines the future livelihood of the Palestinian people. One also wonders why his claims about the "benefits" of this occupation do not accord with statistics compiled by international monitoring organizations.

Family, friends and colleagues of Rachel Corrie remember a thoughtful, committed activist who responded admirably to compensate for our failings as a nation to seek justice in this conflict.

Rozenman's attempts to generate suspicion that Corrie was "misled" or "recruited" by dark forces and to discredit her eyewitness testimony as "hysterical" are nothing less than a second bulldozing of Corrie.

Adam Shapiro

The writer is an organizer for the

International Solidarity Movement.
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by The Pope
As far as I am concerned, Rachel Corrie should be beautified for sainthood.

Like Jesus Christ, Rachel Corrie died for our country's sins, the sins of enabling Zionist Jews to rape the land of the Palestinians, killing, stealing, lying, plundering, defiling, all for a Jewish supremacist racist state.

Rachel Corrie is a shining light that will help guide our country's good-hearted American people to insist that our government stop supporting racist, anti-democratic, apartheid Israel until it is completely transformed into a true democracy with equal rights for all including all 5 million Palestinian refugees who have the right to return to their ancestral homeland of Palestine-Israel according to UN Resolutions, International Law and world opinion, and enjoy equal rights.

We the people are the MOST IMPORTANT lobby group in the world. We must let our leaders know how we feel and pressure them in every way we can to stop supporting racist, apartheid, anti-democratic Israel now.

Saint Rachel Corrie. Our prayers are with you and we will continue on with your noble work of justice, freedom and equal rights for all, including all Palestinians.
by pope for real ya'll
Last time I asked Israel to withdrw from the Church of Nativity and not shoot at Church inhabitants, I was blasted in the press and the congregation was vilified with tales of pedophilia and inappropriate conduct...
I learned ny leson.
If I wish to continue fondling minors, I must keep my head out of Israels misconduct/ business and definitely out of their predictable character assasination of the dead Ms. Corrir/
by cfp
"Rachel Corrie is a shining light that will help guide our country's good-hearted American people to insist that our government stop supporting racist"
"Like Jesus Christ, Rachel Corrie died for our country's sins, the sins of enabling Zionist Jews to rape the land of the Palestinians, killing, stealing, lying, plundering, defiling, all for a Jewish supremacist racist state. "

Let's see, it's OK to be racist against Jews, but yet you accuse the US gov't of being racist. I suppose racism is OK if it YOU believe in it ?

by Dena (dec345 [at] yahoo.com)
Rozenman: an obvious zionist supporter. There is NO justification for a DELIBERATE BULLDOZING of ANY HUMAN BEING. Stupid Rozenman. Bulldozing of TRUTH: zionist's FALSE weapon. WE REJECT !!!
by Penny
Ok, now. Rachel and the other young people were in a field next to the Egyptian border. According to most news sources, she and her friends were trying to protect a doctors house. I saw the Palestinian site's photos of the field and none of them showed a house.

I went to the Israeli site for more information -- not much but they claimed the bulldozers were looking for tunnels. No pictures. Now when is a field being bulldozed in search of illegal tunnels (terrorist tunnels? black market?) the sort of thing an activist protecting a doctor's house would be working in? I found that odd. Did those young folks just play chicken with the bulldozers for practice?
by Cherokee
Another self-hating Arab-loving Jew! It's obvious that Adam Shapiro learned how to lie from his Arab friends! Rachel Corrie wasn't photographed being run over so what Adam writes is purely anti-Israeli propaganda. The whole incident was an accident. The "Palestinians" are really Arabs who should go back to Saudi Arabia their real homeland. As an American Indian I support the Jews to live in their homeland that God gave them!
by Darksyde
here go some photos of rachel corrie. AP photos.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1584046.php
by Yomama
BS"D

Penny,

There are many secret tunnels leading from Egypt to the Territories. They are used primarily to smuggle weapons, and sometimes, terrorists. The existence of these tunnels is a fact.
by Fair watch
The "Palestinians" are really Arabs who should go back to Saudi Arabia their real homeland. As an American Indian I support the Jews to live in their homeland that God gave them!

Most Israelis are of german flock. Maybe they should go back to their real home land and let the Palestinians live in the homeland that their Gd gave them too, what's fair is fair>
by Ben Adam
The heads of the ISM knew that the war on Iraq presented a special difficulty for them. By Mid March it was clear the war is about to start, the world attention is focusing on Iraq. The American military promised to bomb Iraq with “Shock and Awe” campaign that the left believed will kill thousands of Iraqi civilians. The American attack on Iraq was taking attention form the ISM accusations of Israel. They needed to do something about it and quickly resume their status as “Headline grabbers” for the Palestinian war effort.

It took time for the correct method of propaganda to be activated, the world heard many times about the “Evil Zionist” who kill Palestinian, to remain in the head line the world of news require something new (“Fresh Blood”) to remain in the headlines. The ISM knew how to provide it.

It is not clear who exactly came up with the idea of how a wounded western peace activist will be used to grab the headline. The idea was to intensify the ISM activity in the Raffah war zone. The ISM heads knew what is going on, there was constant war between Palestinian warlords who operate the explosive smuggling operation (via tunnels under the border) to the Israeli soldier guarding a small narrow border road. Was the activist volunteered or was she sent to Raffah without knowing what could occur to her – we will never know that.

On March 16, just few days before the start of the Iraq war the ISM succeeded in garbing the world attention. It put the ISM and the Palestinian effort back on front page. With this success the ISM need to continue this new trend as long as the war in Iraq wages on. Stories from Iraq were dwarfing the claims on the “Evil Zionist”. Every day the American viewer saw how American soldiers hit with suicide bomber are forced to erect roadblocks in Iraq. For 2 years the ISM have been telling people that the Israeli army is putting these road blocks not as defense against terrorism but the “Ethnically cleanse” the Palestinians and suddenly the American viewer see that American soldiers are forced to do the same. What was even worse for ISM was that unlike the Israeli soldiers who search every Palestinian in the roadblock for explosive the American soldiers just shot whole Iraqi families approaching the roadblock. Suddenly Israel actions are not seen as bad in comparison to America’s own action.

ISM activist started to become more offensive in their attack on Israel – bravely searching to get hit by Israel so that the headline at home would focus on a Western getting hurt by Israel Instead of on Iraqis killed by US soldiers. ISM activists hid Islamic Jihad terrorists in their Jenin office while the IDF (Israel Defense Force) was searching for him. Brian Ivory rushed into a combat between IDF and Islamic Jihad in Jenin to be hit by a Palestinian bullet in the head but the ISM issued PR accusing Israel. This was working so well that The ISM issued a special call for volunteers to come to raffah and indeed it did not took long for Tom H to get shot.

With the war in Iraq over the ISM needed a new fresh idea to remain in the headlines, soon the story of a “Nurve Agent” was used. After all when the world attention is on WMD what better accusation then a Nurve Gas could be leveled against Israel ?

But the ISM is getting exposed: ISM never denounced terrorism, they helped protect the homes of suicide bombers, they incite Palestinians against the US and Israel (remember the Rachel Corrie flag burning photos) ISM accusation that Israel will use the war on Iraq to hurt Palestinians were proven false as are many other ISM claims. Clearly incitement and lies – camouflaged as search for truth and justice – is not a way to bring peace to a troubled region.
by FOX NEWS
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by Riobard
Ben, ISM actions have never been a significant part of the news from Israel. Their main effectiveness has been in thwarting the Israeli army directly by putting themselves between the army and the Palestinians. Thus, explaining what happened in terms of news coverage doesn't wash.

The pictures of Rachel before she was killed are not those of someone who is suicidal, forcing the IDF to harm her. She's standing in front of an unmoving bulldozer. Also, she's wearing a bright orange vest.

If this was a matter of the ISM attempting to score propaganda points against the Israelis, the army could easily have thwarted that plan by placing a spotter with a walky-talkie in communication with the bulldozer operator. If they were really intending to demolish the building without injuring the ISM person, they would have forcibly removed Corrie from where she stood before they started the bulldozer.

Your idea that ISM has become more aggressive is flawed. ISM tactics have not changed. On the other hand, IDF incursions into Palestinian areas and destruction of Palestinian homes and cropland have increased. Just check the numbers. They are hard facts.

A more likely explanation for what happened is that the IDF command changed their strategy to become more aggressive against the ISM, who they view as a nuisance. They may have even planned to deliberately kill an ISM member as a means of frightening other ISM members into quitting and going home.

Because the ISM has continued to put their bodies on the line, Israel has changed its policy again and now advocates expelling them.
by Ben Adam
Sorry, I'm much too stupid to understand your post.
by Ben Adam
I did not make the last comment.

Just check the ISM mailing list and you will se that it is the ISM who changed tactics. On early March they announce they will focus on raffah in a more direct confrontational way than before.

The ISM knows perfectly well what is going in raffah:

There are explosive smuggling tunnels under the border from Egypt into the Palestinian side of raffh. The tunnels entrances are in civilian homes.

Several warlords who charge a lot of money for using the tunnels control the tunnels. The Hammas warlords place armed snipers to shot at any IDF soldier who is getting close to the tunnels.

If a soldier would attempt to get off his armored vhicle to arrest Rachel Corrie the soldier will be shot by the Hammas warlords sniper team.

This is the reality in raffha - a reality well known to the ISM. They also know that the reason the IDF is building wall is to prevent the explosive smugglers to dig the tunnels under the border fence. The wall actually stretches underground more deep than it is above ground.

I understand your logic but just do not accept it. In Europe Rachel Corie death made headlines and replaced the Iraq headlines. It was also on US press. Basically all your arguments are not founded on reality.

Ask yourself one thing: The ISM team is in raffah for months now. Have you ever ONCE in all their reports (mailing list of Kristen Ess radio reports) heard anything about the tunnels under the raffah border? The answer is a resounding NO.

What are the options?

1. There are no such tunnels

2. The ISM knows about the tunnels but does not want it’s target audience to know what really goes on

3. The ISM is very naïve and know nothing about the tunnels

What do you think ?
by Ben Adam
I did not make the above comment.
by RT
On march 1st ISM reported on:

Events Surrounding the Deaths of 2 Men in Tunnels beneath the Block O area



On 14th February, Rafah activists received word that two men were trapped or possibly killed in tunnels beneath the Block O area on the night of 13th February. After witnessing the continued presence of a large machine drilling holes into the ground on the border strip, witnesses also observed ground-shaking underground explosions. Activists concluded that the tunnels had collapsed due to Israeli occupation force anti-tunnel activity.

On 14th February, the activists received an indirect request from the men's families to act as human shields in order for the bodies to be brought from underground safely. These requests were retracted when it was reported that the Palestinian Authority had negotiated with the Israeli army to allow the family to recover the bodies themselves. That night family members reported that five men entered the tunnels in an unsuccessful attempt to recover the bodies, and that one of these men was arrested by the Israeli occupation forces.

16th February, a team of ten men entered the tunnels from holes created at the surfaceby the Israeli military, and were successful in recovering the bodies. They were subsequently all arrested and transported with the bodies by tank to the Israeli-controlled side of the Rafah-Egypt border checkpoint, according to their testimony to ISM activists on 18th February.

The men involved in the recovery of the bodies report that they were slapped and interrogated by IOF officers during their detention, and forced to sit overnight outside the buildings at the border checkpoint, in a circle surrounding the bodies, which they said was difficult, due to the fact that the bodies were in a state of decay. They report finding fragments of a tear-gas canister in the tunnel near the bodies, which they carried out of the tunnel, and which they report were confiscated by the soldiers who detained them. They report that when they found the bodies their skin was discoloured and bubbled, and that their chests were distended. The detainees were released on 17th February, as were the bodies of the two men killed, Zeyad Al Sha'ar and Mohammed Hamed Kishta. Activists in Rafah continue to seek more information about the cause of death of these two men.

by Was written by Rachel Corie
From the ISM mailing list: Focus on Raffah:

I also hope you'll come here. We've been wavering between five and six internationals. The neighborhoods that have asked us for some form of presence are Yibna, Tel El Sultan, Hi Salam, Brazil, Block J, Zorob, and Block O, as well as the need for constant night-time presence at a well on the outskirts of Rafah

Many of these places have requested internationals to be present at night to attempt to shield houses from further demolition. After about ten pm it is very difficult to move at night because the Israeli army treats anyone in the streets as resistance and shoots at them. So clearly we are too few.



Rachel
011 972 67 857 049
corporatepenguin [at] hotmail.com
by RT
On Feb 21st the ISM had a well publicized coordination meeting. Couple of days later they changed their focus from palestinian to the state of American volunteers from Seatle area.

First it was the Suzan Bercly case on which they reported (see the quote: " do not mention ISM")

" .... Please e-mail any American newspapers that you know of, and ask them why this story is not of any interest to them? Do they wish to be complicit in human rights abuses of their own citizens? At the very least, the story should have appeared in the Washington state press, some of the e-mail addresses of which are:



Seattle Post-Intelligencer citydesk [at] seattlepi.com

Seattle Times jsaul [at] seattletimes.com

The Olympian breakingnews [at] theolympian.com



Make your message short with the subject 'Susan Barclay is free.'

Obviously, don't mention ISM or any media co-ordinator's name.



=======================================
David Watson
Media Co-ordinator
Beit Sahour
Occupied Palestine
Phone: +972-2-2774602
Cell: +972-67-862 439
web: http://www.palsolidarity.org
by gehrig
"Obviously, don't mention ISM or any media co-ordinator's name."

@%<
by No
Most Israelis are sephardic (arab-looking jews), actually. European jews are the founders, but the minority, in Israel.

by No
Also it's funny that you now find it acceptable to judge "where jews should live" based on what color their skin is.



by Ariel Sharon
That's MY job.
by Riobard
What are the options?

1. There are no such tunnels

2. The ISM knows about the tunnels but does not want it’s target audience to know what really goes on

3. The ISM is very naïve and know nothing about the tunnels

What do you think ?

I think there is a fourth option. The ISM is trying to prevent the draconian actions of the IDF in destruction of homes without due cause, just because they are in areas where they could be a terminus for tunnels. Did the Israeli government ever present evidence that there was a tunnel entrance in the doctor's house?

by Ben
Roughly 30 tunnels are found every 2 month.

The Israeli army knows that when they approach a house and get shot at there is a reason why they are being shot at by the warlords.

Every house owner next to the border road is forced to cooerpate with the hammas warlords. The Doctor is no different. The ISM provide the human sheild to the operation. See Rachel Corie e-mail (come to raffha) from mid Feb.
by FOX NEWS
Thanks for watching! Ollie sends his love.
by Ben
I never watch Fox news. My info source are Indy and Yahoo.
by Ariel Sharon
I LOVE you!
by Me
So the owners of houses along the border are caught between Hamas and the IDF and Rachel Corrie was caught between the IDF and the Doctor's house.

The problem with this scenario is the manner in which the IDF treats all ordinary Palestinians as the enemy, inflicts communal punishment and takes no reponsibility for the property they destroy or the land they confiscate.

The IDF treats all Palestinians as if they are vermin. Where in this scenario is there any consideration of the ordinary Palestinian who wants to live in his or her own homeland undisturbed.

You are painfully conscious of the attacks of Palestinian militants on Israelis but are you conscious the lack of security for millions of Palestinians and at the continuous incursions and chipping away of the land and property of non-Jewish natives of the region.
by Ben Adam
I am aware of the suffering of both Israeli and palestinians.

There is grass root movments who work for solutions - I volunteer in one of them ( http://www.mifkad.org.il/eng/ )

The ISM way is not the way to peace it is the way of lying and inciting which brings more violance.

If the explosive smuggling under raffh border will stop there will be less violance. The ISM is doing everything so that this smuggling will continue.
by RioBenNativeLoverHater
Palestinians should definitely call off their hopes for existence. Anyone who's been alive and aware during this fiasco - which is no one involved in this point counterpoint nonsense - knows the Palestinians have no power and therefore will NEVER succeed at negotiations.

We are entering the endgame of the human experiment. The perpetual war on terror will never end. The ruling class needs enemies to justify their control of the remaining populace.

People will exist within strange nations which they will accept as normal. The wealthy will live within their gated, secure, walled communites. Robots will eventually take the place of Palestinians and Mexicans. Who will be allowed to live on their reservations like the Native Americans. Unless they want to sell out to the corporate-capitalist-security state and become trained in the ways of proper behaviour where you put in your time running the systems and spend part of an evening or a morning with other members of your family.

Palestine will be an independent state about the same time as Iraq is a democracy which is timed to coincide with the USA becoming a democracy - which it has never been. Both Rep. Abraham Lincoln and write Henry David Thoreau wrote and spoke strongly in opposition to the Mexican War. A war of aggression. Mexico did nothing, planned to do nothing against the US. The Us power boys simply wanted to expand the empire. And they did. Imagine the US without California and the rest of the southwestern states. Las Vegas, Mexico just don't sound right.

The US government was designed to concentrate power into the hands of the few and only the amount of power available to them has increased over time. As robberbaron Jay Gould said in the 19th century, "I can deceive half the people, and the other half I can buy." The "upper" class has the upperhand and they aren't about to let go. So you should, let it go. Accept it. Forget about it and try to do what you can to live your own decent life. When you reach the end, if you can look back honestly, you might be amazed at how little your views have changed during your life. But, of course, you'll be wondering if those long-suffering Palestinians and determined Israelis will ever settle their disagreement over the failed rapturous transfer which led to Intifada 37.
by larry
the Rachel Corrie myth continues....

Family, friends and colleagues of Rachel Corrie have said she never went to the middle east this story has been created to manipulate the media
and attempt to legitimize Palestinian 'solidarity' organizations who recruit unknowing students to come and participate in the conflict.
by Cough
Terrorism can be defeated. Facism destroys terrorism..
so does comunism (in time).
despotic monarchies have been known to put down terrorism also..
In fact if you read history - in the long run terrorism tends to loose.

The only system that doesnt defeat terrorism seems to be democracy where there are negotiations.
it is the "half and half solution where you are tough enough to stay in the country and try to keep some rights for your people but soft enough to view the other group as "innocent civilians" who must be helped even if it amounts to resuplying your opponants.
§.
by larry
so you not disputing the the Rachel Corrie myth and the manner in which it is presented to manipulate the media (wag the dog )
by jeremy marnham (globalismus [at] yahoo.co.uk)
How can anyone be 'pro-jewish'? How can anyone be 'anti-jewish'? You have anti-semitic, racist, sexist, homophobic people, and you have open, tolerant people. You can be anti-Israeli government or pro-Israeli government, but how on earth can you be pro- or anti-jewish?
It's time people on both sides of the argument made the distinction between jewish and Israeli, just as we should make the distinction between arab and muslim, or 'westerner' and christian.
by jeremy (globalismus [at] yahoo.co.uk)
"Like Jesus Christ, Rachel Corrie died for our country's sins, the sins of enabling Zionist Jews to rape the land of the Palestinians, killing, stealing, lying, plundering, defiling, all for a Jewish supremacist racist state. "

"Let's see, it's OK to be racist against Jews, but yet you accuse the US gov't of being racist. I suppose racism is OK if it YOU believe in it ?"

CFP, if this was what you were alluding to, it was not a racist comment against JEWS. It was an attack on ZIONIST Jews. Whatever anyone thinks about zionism, it is not a race, but an ideology. It is perfectly fair to criticise an ideology. That has nothing to do with racism.
Let's be rational folks.
by jeremy
blame the modrator...
by Shlomo
US faught two wars in the midleeast. In none of them it used Israel as an air base.

You are mixing up between zionism - the home land of the Jews and Saudi Arabia where the US bases are.
by rolanda
nessie has never let the facts constrain her arguments.
( Zionism is about Anglo-American imperialism?)
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha girl you trippin
some one is in dire need of a reality check..
go easy on those recreational pharmaceuticals!
by jeremie (globalismus [at] yahoo.co.uk)
Rolanda, if nessie's comments are so laughable, why don't you tell us why. At the moment, yours are the laughable comment, BECAUSE you offer no argumnets. Sorry.
by debate coach
An ad hominem is not a rebuttal.
by A zionist
No, zionism is still just about supporting the existence of a jewish state, israel. That's it. The goal is a peaceful state with a government run mostly by jews, so that the 1 billion muslims who live around the corner can't take the country over and slaughter the jews there, something that anti-zionists want to happen.

As a zionist, I want israel to be safe. That's it. There are no other goals, contrary to what these crazed israel-hating terrorist-loving nuts have dedicated their lives trying to tell everyone.

by jeremie (globalismus [at] yahoo.co.uk)
" so that the 1 billion muslims who live around the corner can't take the country over and slaughter the jews there, something that anti-zionists want to happen. "
Please clarify where you get this information from.

"contrary to what these crazed israel-hating terrorist-loving nuts have dedicated their lives trying to tell everyone. "
Who are they? People who criticise Israel are Israel-haters and terrorist-lovers?Please tell us how you reach such a conclusion.

by an anti-Zionist
>so that the 1 billion muslims who live around the corner can't take the country over and slaughter the jews there,


Nobody has to "take over the country" to slaughter Jews in Israel. Au contrair, Israel os the only place on the entire planet where Jews are routinely being slaughtered.

>something that anti-zionists want to happen.

Some anti-Zionists want this to happen. The vast overwhelming majority do not. To say thay they do is no different from saying that all Jews are murderers, simply because Leopold and Loeb were murders.

It's a catagory error. See:

http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/category.htm
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by ...
meantime the Palestinians are being Slaughtered, the Iraqis and Afghanis are being slaughtered and the Iranis, syrians and Lebaneze may be next.

by Scottie
David had a projectile weapon and goliath had a sword. it is really analigous to argencourt where the british defeated the french with archers.
the story is an example of brains (and projectile weapons) over brawn as opposed to the weak defeating the strong.
the israelis still represent david even in the israelis vs palistinians issue.
by Angie
Hi, I'm fucking dumbass Angie, and I have no idea what you guys are talking about, but I think I'll type a fulll paragarph where I say absolutely nothing, yet use lots of words, make no valid points, offer no opinions based on any sort of facts or reality, and then happily wish you all a goodnight!

by mazen sick of arafat, quits
abu mazen wants progression and 2 peaceful states

arafat just wants to murder israel.

thus, the following:

GAZA, Sept. 6 (UPI) -- After more than two weeks of severe disputes, disagreements and differences, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat accepted on the resignation of Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, also known as Abu Mazen, Palestinian Authority officials said.

The officials said that the disputes between Arafat and Abu Mazen mainly concentrated on competences and over who would control the eight PA security agencies as well as nominations of officials and ministers within the PA.

PA minister of Justice in Abu Mazen's cabinet Abdel Kareem Abu Sallah told United Press International that Arafat has finally accepted Abu Mazen's resignation earlier Saturday during a closed-door session of the Palestinian Legislative Council held in Ramallah.

Abu Mazen, the first ever Palestinian prime minister was nominated by Arafat more than 100 days ago. The PLC as well as Fatah central committee and the Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee that Arafat chairs, had approved Abu Mazen to the new post.

Abdel Fatah Hamayel, a PA cabinet minister said that Abu Mazen reached this conclusion (to resign as a premier) "because he didn't find any serious hope to overcome the crisis between him and President Yasser Arafat, therefore he decided to resign."
by Calling All Anti-Zionists
We pray for the peaceful dismantling of the Zionist state of Israel.

We pray for the transformation of Zionist Israel into Palestine-Israel, a secular, democratic country with equal rights, liberty and justice for all, including for all the Palestinian refugees who must be allowed their inalienable right to return to their ancestral homeland.

We honor Saint Rachel Corrie of Rafah.

We pray to God for deliverance from the curse of the Zionists.
by Angie

I did not write that post 'How Dare You" above. It should be obvious from the language used therein.
by gehrig
Hi, I'm fucking dumbass gehrig. I haven't been writing my really long-ass screeds lately (pack a snack and some "No Doze" before you ever start to read one), where I'll type screenfuls after screenfuls and pedantically say absolutely nothing, yet use lots of pseudo-intellectual words that make no valid points, offer no opinions based on any sort of facts or reality, and then happily declare victory. While I'm not up to what I used to be in my younger days, I'm obviously still VERY impressed with myself: *someone* has to be.
by Scottie
Hi, I'm fucking dumass Scottie! NO ONE is a fucking dummerass than I am. Everybody says so! Compared to me, even gehrig is a fucking 'genius'! But saying either is not saying much. I respond to almost every post in every thread and nothing I say can be too trivial and vapid for me. I have absolutely no idea what anyone is talking about, but you can bet that I'll type paragarph after paragraph where I say absolutely nothing, yet use lots of barely comprehensible words in whatever language (like Bush Shrub) I speak, make no valid points, offer no opinions based on any sort of facts or reality, and then happily say, "So there!"

Vote for me as the biggest fucking dumass! Bigger than even gehrig!
by A zionist
Wait! I've GOT TO BE the biggest fucking dumbass here, because I want Jews to think that they can oppress other people - indefinitely - right in the middle of the Arab world - part of those 1 billion Muslims I mentioned above who want to slaughter THE JEWWWWSSS - and piss off those people who never committed any Inquisitions or Holocausts against us or forced us to change our names and pass for Christians! All we Jews want is a "peaceful" state, started by our own terrorists, where we can finally push OTHER people off their land and take THEIR homes! Ahhh, it feels GOOD to be on top! That is the goal of a peaceful state. Then I just expect Israel to be safe - although Israel has thus never given Jews a safe day in all its history. (Personally, I'm posting from the Upper West side, Manhattan.)
by Ben Adam
Hey, I'm the biggest fucking dumass - and I don't even know why! But, I do know that I can explain away ANY of Israel's atrocities! Just watch me!

Vote for Ben Adams: biggest fucking dumass!
by larry the liar
After what I said above...! Is there really any doubt that *I'M* the biggest fucking dumass!
by &quot;Cherokee&quot;
Now *SURELY* no one can be a bigger fucking dumass than a Native American -- really a Zionist Jew *POSING* as a Native American, as NO LIE is too big for a Zionist Jew (having learned quite well from their Nazi oppressors) -- championing the rights of another European people going out to settler-colonize, conquer, ethnically cleanse, and do their best to wipe out, yet another non-European people in their own land! (Hey, we tried it everywhere *else*!)

Vote biggest fucking dumass for the big dum 'Indian'-posing Zionist Jew.
by Yomama
I'm an Ashkenazi Zionist Jew posing as some *CONFUSSSED* black 'hood homie! I'm also championing the right of yet another group of Europeans to go out, setttler-colonize and subjugate a non-European people - just like in apartheid South Africa!

Now, I GOTTA be the biggest fucking dumass!

Vote for ME!!
by Fucking Zionist Dumass
I'm the big fucking dumass Zionist who impersonated Angie.

Now REALLY!: I've got to be the biggest fucking dumass, after all, because I know that I would NEVER be smart enough to impersonate Angie! I'm stupid, I'm a DORK! I have no intelligence, no wit, and, when I can't succeed on expressing any intelligent thought, impersonating others who do is the only way I can childishly strike back - my only resort. Like we mentally disfunctional Zionists on SF-IMC *ALWAYS* do.

I'M THE *BIGGEST* FUCKING DUMASS AFTER ALL!!!
by A concerned Zionist
Dear Zionist,
Keep up the good work, troop. I am exposing the world to the glories of our apartheid Zionist state on other boards, but I dropped by to see how are you doing. You are doing a great job, keep up the good work on this board. I am evangelizing the ignorant humanity oriented anti-Zionist public on http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1584331_comment.php#1615563 .
I don't want to get in your way, this is obviously your zone and you are doing a great job, showing our Zionist ideology for what it really is. Hello to Angie and other antizionists on this board, you are obviously too human to be in our Zionist gang, but hello anyways.
Once again, 'zionist', keep up the good work.

Heil Sharon!
- A concerned Zionist
by anti bullshit
In the face of one provocation, the "anti-Zionists" go all out on an impersonation orgy.
Way to go...it really advances your cause of dismantling Zionism, hah? Banging out your heads like 9 year olds in a pajama party.
by another false accusation
It wasn't anti-Zionists who did that. It was Zionists. They do stuff like that a lot. False flag ops are their specialty. Even as far back as in Mandate times, for example, the King David Hotel bombers dressed up like Arabs bfore they committed their crime.
by anti bullhit
You're not convincing in the least.
by Scottie
there seems to be aproximatly the same amount of impersonation on either side (in total) and its been going on for a long time. much ,longer than this current batch or the people who are involved in it most probably
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