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Warmongers Senators Boxer, Schumer, et al
Now that you have figured out Cal Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein is a fascist, it is time you examine the record of the other Cal Democratic Senator, Barbara Boxer.
Now that you have figured out Cal Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein is a fascist, it is time you examine the record of the other Cal Democratic Senator, Barbara Boxer.
Three good Democrats all in a row, Senators Barbara Boxer and Charles Schumer & Rep. Israel, are shown in a NY Times photo in the SF Chronicle, 4/3/03, p. A4, admiring Nazi USA's murder weapon, a Stinger missile.
Senator Barbara Boxer has voted for EVERYTHING Bush has asked for, including his entire military budget, the fascist "Patriot" Act, the Homeland Gestapo, and all resolutions and money supporting Israel. There is absolutely nothing liberal about such a voting record and the best we all can do is never vote for any Democrat or any Republican at any level of government.
This photo is yet another example of why there is not a dime's worth of difference between the Democrats and Republicans. That photo says it all about these three Nazis supporting Nazi USA and its Nazi military, all to maximize the profits of the rich, of whom they are three. Barbara Boxer is a millionaire and cannot and does not represent the workingclass. She represents stinking fascist parasites like herself and George War Bush.
Three good Democrats all in a row, Senators Barbara Boxer and Charles Schumer & Rep. Israel, are shown in a NY Times photo in the SF Chronicle, 4/3/03, p. A4, admiring Nazi USA's murder weapon, a Stinger missile.
Senator Barbara Boxer has voted for EVERYTHING Bush has asked for, including his entire military budget, the fascist "Patriot" Act, the Homeland Gestapo, and all resolutions and money supporting Israel. There is absolutely nothing liberal about such a voting record and the best we all can do is never vote for any Democrat or any Republican at any level of government.
This photo is yet another example of why there is not a dime's worth of difference between the Democrats and Republicans. That photo says it all about these three Nazis supporting Nazi USA and its Nazi military, all to maximize the profits of the rich, of whom they are three. Barbara Boxer is a millionaire and cannot and does not represent the workingclass. She represents stinking fascist parasites like herself and George War Bush.
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Don't give the Nazi a bad name by associating them with this murderous regime
The represnt the people of California, why because the were voted into office. Why did we elect them, because they reflect the will of the people.
So maybe many of us, "Activist of peace", could all move to a small State like New Hampshire and start to make political change in the Country, we would have two Senators, many Congress persons, a Governor and so on. We could create some really cool laws?
This is something that has been proposed, I would do it if I felt like a million others would do it also.
How about you?
Let’s say we announce that this will happen on July 4, 2003, that we will enter the State of New Hampshire! We will be residence and able to vote per law and so on, you get the idea, well, if a big ground swell starts, will you move, it is a big step, would you do it?
I would!
This is something that has been proposed, I would do it if I felt like a million others would do it also.
How about you?
Let’s say we announce that this will happen on July 4, 2003, that we will enter the State of New Hampshire! We will be residence and able to vote per law and so on, you get the idea, well, if a big ground swell starts, will you move, it is a big step, would you do it?
I would!
Geez, I can't believe that I'm stepping in to defend Boxer, who I think is a leftist loon. (So I guess you're really far out there!) She wasn't "admiring" the stinger, she was trying to point that they're a possible threat to air traffic and wants "something" to be done to protect airliners from them.
Get a grip!
Get a grip!
Sounds like a good idea, but are you afraid to move by yourself? You go scout it out and report back, let us know what the natives are like.
You missed the point, maybe on purpose, I do not know.
But the point is that it would, it could happen, if the right things came together, and like, an announcement came forth from a coalition of us to make this real, so as to bring some more needed hope and inspiration into the Country and the World, it would be done as a massive gathering on the date that we all came up with, as an example, July 4, 2003.
No need to send in any scouts. (what a wet blanket, to make such a comment, a real gun-ho type)
Most certainly their would be many who would try and pour jokes and insults on it because that’s just the way they are, get it!
So I hope that puts you to bed, if not, take two asprin and go away and play with your guns, alone.
But the point is that it would, it could happen, if the right things came together, and like, an announcement came forth from a coalition of us to make this real, so as to bring some more needed hope and inspiration into the Country and the World, it would be done as a massive gathering on the date that we all came up with, as an example, July 4, 2003.
No need to send in any scouts. (what a wet blanket, to make such a comment, a real gun-ho type)
Most certainly their would be many who would try and pour jokes and insults on it because that’s just the way they are, get it!
So I hope that puts you to bed, if not, take two asprin and go away and play with your guns, alone.
Wyoming - fewer people, closer to California and much cheaper land. You couldn't afford a doghouse in New Hampshire.
P.S. Bring a coat.
P.S. Bring a coat.
What ever works, THE IDEA, is the same.
New Hampshire or Wyoming, or some other State.
The Question is, if it seemed like a mass movement of a million or so people would agree to this, would you also? This means for at least about 3-5 years.
Well would you?
New Hampshire or Wyoming, or some other State.
The Question is, if it seemed like a mass movement of a million or so people would agree to this, would you also? This means for at least about 3-5 years.
Well would you?
Boxer/Feinstein don't represent the people of California, they represent the influence of corporate campaign contributions and the democratic party over the will of the people. It is the brash cries of naivity and ignorance that claim there is some sort of legitimate choice in American elections. It is a system established to protect the monied elite, and nothing wil change that but its complete abolition.
Sounds like you assume that the votes were bought and paid for, damn I didn't get my check. Or maybe you were left out of the loop and didn't get paid? The point is votes count, if no viable candidate runs against them then they win. Most of the time we chose the lesser of two evils. Example last governor election here in California.
Voter is right--they are in office cause they were elected. But Mike Burg is also right; it is inaccurate to say that they reflect the will of the people. It is even inaccurate to say that if a "viable candidate" runs against them, they will be unseated. Dianne Feinstein is deeply, deeply entrenched. She does not have to reflect the will of the people. By doing the bidding of the people and groups with the most money, she doesn't have to worry about being unseated. Yes votes count, but she is so well connected to so much money and so is her husband that she can stifle any other candidates. Many people voted for a despicable Republican that they disliked last senatorial election--just so they could cast a vote against Dianne!! If you talk to people who remember the election or look to the press of the time, that was a very dissatisfying "choice;" even mainstream voters were bummed out at basically being forced to vote once again for Dianne Feinstein. I'm not sure she's a fascist, but to say that just because someone holds on to office doesn't mean they reflect the will of the people.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe Boxer voted against giving Bush his war powers last October.
I'm pretty sure of that.
But you ARE right about our 2 party system. The Republican and Democratic parties represent just a narrow range of political ideology for the American voter. Both parties respond more to corporate lobbyists than they do to their electorate. Plus both parties are pro war at this point (except for Howard Dean).
I'm pretty sure of that.
But you ARE right about our 2 party system. The Republican and Democratic parties represent just a narrow range of political ideology for the American voter. Both parties respond more to corporate lobbyists than they do to their electorate. Plus both parties are pro war at this point (except for Howard Dean).
saying that we voted for them because they "reflect the will of the people" is moronic because it ignores the fact that the only real choices people are given is the choice between 2 bulshit corporate millionaires, one called "democrat" and one called" republican". saying that they reflect the whole spectrum of human will is like saying that a choice between pepsi and coke is representative of all bevaerage options. i choose water and autonomy.
Then why don't you come up with a system of government that will keep every single person in this Country happy. Easy to criticize when you have no other argument.
>both parties are pro war at this point
>(except for Howard Dean).
Why do people take their cue from the mainstream media, who for reasons unknown to me want to push the totally unknown Howard Dean as the "acceptable" anti-war Democrat? I haven't voted for a Democrat (or a Republican) in my entire life, but that doesn't keep me from recognizing that both Dennis Kucinich and Al Sharpton, both announced candidates for President, have strong anti-war stands (stronger than Dean as far as I can tell). Kucinich gave a speech in the Congress yesterday calling for "Troops Out Now!". What has Dean had to say on the subject? Just because the media try to ignore Kucinich because of his principles and Sharpton because of his race, doesn't mean people who get their news from indymedia have to do the same.
>(except for Howard Dean).
Why do people take their cue from the mainstream media, who for reasons unknown to me want to push the totally unknown Howard Dean as the "acceptable" anti-war Democrat? I haven't voted for a Democrat (or a Republican) in my entire life, but that doesn't keep me from recognizing that both Dennis Kucinich and Al Sharpton, both announced candidates for President, have strong anti-war stands (stronger than Dean as far as I can tell). Kucinich gave a speech in the Congress yesterday calling for "Troops Out Now!". What has Dean had to say on the subject? Just because the media try to ignore Kucinich because of his principles and Sharpton because of his race, doesn't mean people who get their news from indymedia have to do the same.
"We could create some really cool laws?"
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!
Would, be, (ok ), if you had a real, an intellectually honest point to make, but, “You do not”, ha ha ha!
A law that requires Anarchist to live in another State sounds good to begin with, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Also, law that requires real term limits for all governmental offices, a law that requires each County to have a police oversight board selected the same as a normal Jury is, but to hold office for not more then two years. Laws to enable a more just election system and a law to make cameras in the court room mandatory if the defense so chooses. And yes, to some of us, this would be, cool!
To an, Anarchist, well, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
p.s. If you only could understand, that a real Anarchist is one who is for them self only, but if you want the best for all, then you need law.
Power to the peaceful.
Would, be, (ok ), if you had a real, an intellectually honest point to make, but, “You do not”, ha ha ha!
A law that requires Anarchist to live in another State sounds good to begin with, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Also, law that requires real term limits for all governmental offices, a law that requires each County to have a police oversight board selected the same as a normal Jury is, but to hold office for not more then two years. Laws to enable a more just election system and a law to make cameras in the court room mandatory if the defense so chooses. And yes, to some of us, this would be, cool!
To an, Anarchist, well, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
p.s. If you only could understand, that a real Anarchist is one who is for them self only, but if you want the best for all, then you need law.
Power to the peaceful.
The members of the twin warmongering party of capitalism, the Democratic Party, namely Senators Feinstein and Boxer, and Representatives Mike Thompson of St. Helena, George Miller of Martinez, Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco, Ellen Tauscher of Walnut Creek, Tom Lantos of San Mateo, Pete Stark of Fremont, Anna Eshoo of Atherton, MIke Honda of San Jose, and Zoe Lofgren of San Jose just gave $80 billion for war in Iraq and fascism at home, as announced in the SF Chronicle of 4/4/03, p. A3, which I assume all politically activists read as soon as they get up in the morning, even though we all know it is a capitalist rag. See http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/04/04/national0708EST0540.DTL
The graphic with the listing of the Bay Area representative voters is in the print edition. It is a Chronicle Graphic but I cannot find it on the Chronicle's website.
By the way, the Chronicle's website is updated at 6 a.m. each day if you would rather not pay $.25 for this rag, but one way or another, we all do have to keep up with what is going on and who is saying what, where, when and why.
The vote was 414-12 in the House and 93-0 in the Senate, which means most Democrats voted with the Republicans for war abroad and fascism at home.
See http://thomas.loc.gov for how all of them voted.
The time is up for voting for your oppressor which you do if you are a member of the workingclass (generally those of us who sell our labor for less than $70,000 per year, usually a good deal less. if we can get the work) and you vote for either a Democrat or a Republican at any level of office. The record of these fascist warmongers is very clear for all to see.
As to blaming another party for the fraudulent victory, or even a legitimate victory of a Republican candidate, such scapegoating is a sign of weakness and backwardness. Everyone from any party or no party has a right to run for office and it is long overdue that all voters vote their conscience, that is to say, vote for the program the candidate presents, and if the candidate is an incumbent, the voting record of that incumbent. The program of both the Democrat and Republican Parties is that of the capitalist class they both present, namely war and fascism.
These stinking fascist swine just vote for $80 billion for war and fascism while public schools, public healthcare systems and all social services are being destroyed with massive cutbacks. We are literally paying for war and fascism with our lives and the lives of the future of this country, namely the children. We cannot have both guns and butter.
The graphic with the listing of the Bay Area representative voters is in the print edition. It is a Chronicle Graphic but I cannot find it on the Chronicle's website.
By the way, the Chronicle's website is updated at 6 a.m. each day if you would rather not pay $.25 for this rag, but one way or another, we all do have to keep up with what is going on and who is saying what, where, when and why.
The vote was 414-12 in the House and 93-0 in the Senate, which means most Democrats voted with the Republicans for war abroad and fascism at home.
See http://thomas.loc.gov for how all of them voted.
The time is up for voting for your oppressor which you do if you are a member of the workingclass (generally those of us who sell our labor for less than $70,000 per year, usually a good deal less. if we can get the work) and you vote for either a Democrat or a Republican at any level of office. The record of these fascist warmongers is very clear for all to see.
As to blaming another party for the fraudulent victory, or even a legitimate victory of a Republican candidate, such scapegoating is a sign of weakness and backwardness. Everyone from any party or no party has a right to run for office and it is long overdue that all voters vote their conscience, that is to say, vote for the program the candidate presents, and if the candidate is an incumbent, the voting record of that incumbent. The program of both the Democrat and Republican Parties is that of the capitalist class they both present, namely war and fascism.
These stinking fascist swine just vote for $80 billion for war and fascism while public schools, public healthcare systems and all social services are being destroyed with massive cutbacks. We are literally paying for war and fascism with our lives and the lives of the future of this country, namely the children. We cannot have both guns and butter.
For more information:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...
I have links on my homepage (mandeep.org) that show the rollcall for both the Senate and House votes at that time, on that very crucial vote.
i almost always vote Green, but i do keep careful track of how far rightward each of the Dems do fall.
pax-
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i almost always vote Green, but i do keep careful track of how far rightward each of the Dems do fall.
pax-
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The Demo-rats in American have always had one fundamental political Role--to play the role of Good Cop to the Republican Bad Cop.
Nothing more.
The only difference between these Lying Liberals and Phony Progressives and the Right Wing in American is that the former loves to hide behind its disgusting "kinder, gentler" mask.
There is only One Political Party in America: The Imperialist Party.
Destroy it. And Destroy the American Empire itself.
Nothing more.
The only difference between these Lying Liberals and Phony Progressives and the Right Wing in American is that the former loves to hide behind its disgusting "kinder, gentler" mask.
There is only One Political Party in America: The Imperialist Party.
Destroy it. And Destroy the American Empire itself.
just a thought for all you voters in the 60's we use to say DON'T VOTE ORGANIZE it was a play on the famous words DON'T MOURN ORGANIZE ........BUT WE ALL KNOW NOW THAT IF ALL YOU DO IS VOTE YOU DON'T COUNT
just a thought for all you voters in the 60's we use to say DON'T VOTE ORGANIZE it was a play on the famous words DON'T MOURN ORGANIZE ........BUT WE ALL KNOW NOW THAT IF ALL YOU DO IS VOTE YOU DON'T COUNT
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