Protesters Demand FOX News be accountable to the public

hi, was there notice, ahead of time of the protest against fox today (thurs) at indymedia or some other site. i would have liked to participate, but i didn't see it. thanks, tanya

Fox News is anti -American!
Over paid puppets dancing for the man.
These people are collaborators and un-American scum!
They shoud be tried for treason!

Check out the Plan as presented at
http://home.nyc.rr.com/jesse64/index.html
These protests are the beginning of a needed refocusing. The media is little more than a mouthpiece for the administration, and must be exposed with vigor.

Fox news belongs in Germany in 1933. Their licence MUST be revoked because they are misusing PUBLIC airwaves to destroy democracy. They are one sided endorsers of absolute fascism. How b'bout we all peasefully bring back a free press. We are many. BOYCOTT FOX NEWS SPONSERS, I know I will.

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Just one little note -- I noticed that someone posted a message using my name with the title of the above story, however, I did not write this comment. Even though I agree with the sentiments of the poster please make sure you attribute your own comments with your own name.


Thanks so much,

Camille Sauve

The only way to reach these presstitutes is by boycotting their tv and radio stations. Hit them where it hurts the most. Ratings = $.

Thank you!!!! Please don't let up on FOX. They deserve more grief than we can possibly give them.

Remember Us????? Weren't we "collateral damage" too??

What was the Middle Easterners doing when they heard the news of our demise???????????

Explain to my family members left behind why Saddam paid MILLIONS to the death squad's family members?????????

CORRECTION: The individuals in the photo discribed as "Fox employees" do not work for Fox news but another company in the building. A reader told me that they were trying to yell this information down to us but they were drowned out by the noise. My apologies for the error.

TV studios should not be used as pro-war propaganda outlets in support of U.S. Establishment military aggression in the Middle East. But in order for mainstream media complicity with the Pentagon to end, anti-war protests will have to mobilize in large numbers to take back tv stations like KQED and Rupert Murdoch's Fox News. End U.S. media complicity with the U.S. war machine now. As long as the U.S. anti-war movement is too timid to non-violently fight the mainstream media gatekeepers for control of the tv studios, this era of U.S. establishment media promotion of "televised U.S. aggression" will likely continue.

It's traditional.

See:

http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/12/1555696_comment.php#1555703

".. tell the truth about the human toll of the Iraq war and not rely solely on offical sources..."
Hell yea! I mean why use offical sources when it suits us to make up the numbers. Heck lets lie about the number of protesters, and the polls, and everything else that suits our needs. Its not the truth that matters, but our desires. The ends justify the means.

World Trade Center Ghost , don't be an idiot. U sound more like a zionist mole than a victim from 9-11. If by this time you don't know the criminals in gov pulled 9-11 as part of their world domination scheme, at the immediate sacrifice of Amercan freedom, then you are a real helpless idiot, and are helping the henchmen in their plans. Otherwise, you are a mole, from tip to toe.

I agree that Fox News is the most dispicable News service I have ever experienced. No wonder. Its chief is Rupert Murdoch, whose other "tabloids" are similarly biassed - but TV tends to be more persuasive than print media, and is therefore more pernicious.
It should be sued for False Advertising, using the slogan "Fair and Balanced".
On the positive side, its position is so obvious, that I occasionally flick to it for a laugh.
However I do believe it is a significant contributor to the current all time low image of the US throughout the world.

Camille why don't you help out Fox News on the Body Count, I don't see any numbers on your thread here. You are perfectly welcome to go To Iraq and do a body count. We will be waiting for Offical body count and expect to see you reporting Live from Iraq, no fake reporting from the California desert.

Keep it up - San Fransisco activists for media accountability are the best!

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

The name is apt. What else could you expect of them. Living up to their name is one thing they certainly do.

Lay off the smokes and buy some stock.

The News Corporation Limited (NYSE: NWS, NWS.A; ASX: NCP, NCPDP; LSE: NEWCP) is one of the world’s largest media companies, with total assets as of December 31, 2002 of approximately US$42 billion and total annual revenues of approximately US$16 billion. News Corporation’s diversified global operations in the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, Latin America and the Pacific Basin include the production and distribution of motion pictures and television programming; television, satellite and cable broadcasting; the publication of newspapers, magazines, books; the production and distribution of promotional and advertising products and services; the development of digital broadcasting; the development of conditional access and subscriber management systems; and the creation and distribution of popular on-line programming.

See you at the shareholders meeting.

Bill O'Reilly and the like are nothing more than mouth pieces for the pentagon and this administration. O’Reilly has the propensity to purposely smear the truth with half baked information and bigoted commentary that’s presented to the TV public. While occasionally purporting to present and report fair and balanced news, FOX’s O’Reilly Factor will invite guests with opposing points of view on the issues concerning this illegal invasion and war hungry administration. Only to have O’Reilly lambaste their opinion no matter how concise or well presented their point of view is, while spewing forth his right wing interpretation of patriotism, loudly drowning out his guests and calling them anti-American. O’Reilly recently defended NBC’s hypocritical treatment and firing of reporter Peter Arnett while ever so casually and most stealthily reminding his TV audience that General Electric, who is NBC’s parent company manufactures lightbulbs and appliances, he fails to mention that G.E. is a major primary military contractor providing fighter jet engines and cruise missiles to the pentagon.
( ..What is their slogan?... Oh yeah!.. “ G.E. ..We bring good things to life!”...) The very weapons and arms that are destroying innocent Iraqi women and children.
A poor excuse for true journalism.

I just turn off news or whatever that I don't like.

If enough people do this, it will put Fox out of business.

Encourage your friends, neighbors, etc.. not to watch.

Pick a station you feel gives a more balanced view and watch them.

As long as Fox keeps getting the ratings it is, nothing will change. You have the power to impact their ratings. They will pay more attention to their ratings than they will a protest. Put your efforts into reducing their ratings and you will get what you want.

Nobody Special

Yeah, all the mainstream media lie. So what? We already know that.

It's called freedom of speech.

Wouldn't matter if the American public accepted personal responsibility for their own actions (where they spend, how they vote, what they support). Maybe then they'd bother to find out - like we've all done - what's really going on. Then Fox could lie all day and night, and it wouldn't matter.

Blame Fox for lying, but blame Americans for paying taxes and voting the way they do. American ignorance is where the real problem rests.

But I guess when you've disarmed yourself and rendered yourself powerless with pacifist philosophy, your only recourse is democracy. And it's hard to convince a democracy of spoiled children (which is what most of America is) to accept responsibility for their own ignorance and apathy, when Big Daddy Govt has got them all alternatively cowering behind and from him.

Anyway, the mainstream media is not the real problem - the public is. And as monumental as that problem may be, you'll never get anywhere trying to cure symptoms and kill outside parasites. The root cause is public greed and cowardice, plain and simple.

Amd that's ALL classes - rich, poor, white, brown, elite, peasant, working.. it's everywhere.

-Van

I just wanted to say you forgot to include the worse one of all in your handing out of Pink Slips...How could anyone forget Sean Hannity of Hannity and Combes?....this guy is a menace and a loudmouth moron. Bill O'Reilly pales in comparison to him. I think Sean Hannity should not only be fired, but he should be dressed up like the cheap Bush slut that he is, and dropped in the middle of Baghdad. Let them take care of him. If the Seceret Service would let this guy close enough to Bush, we could start calling him Monica. Just the sound of his voice infuriates me, and makes me want to challenge him, although I know the guy wont shut up long enough to let anyone get a word in edgewise if it challenges his views.This guy has no clue , no human dignity, and no respect for anyone that opposes his views. He is nothing more than a " Plastic Patriot " waving his flag for ratings.
As for Fox news claiming to be " Fair, Balanced, and Unafraid"...not even close !!! They are an embarrasment to jounalism and The United States.
Message to Sean Hannity..." Anytime you wanna go at it, drop me a line.

Hey Spacemonkie,

sounds like you're angry and you want to fight that radio host? How is that peaceful? You are giving us peace loving people a bad name.

Am I the only one who is worried that the war might be over before we can convince the administration to stop the violence?

BODY COUNT WROTE:

> You are perfectly welcome to go To Iraq and do a body count. > We will be waiting for Offical body count and expect to see you reporting Live from Iraq.

ACCOUNTABILITY FOR FOX
Incomprehensible sarcasm probably by a FOX/CIA employee.
Most activists would be happy to quit their job and get paid by
the media or the government to go to Iraq and try and get a body count because we are ethical committed people. A body count was not attempted in Gulf war 1 either.

The real issue is the media's complicity in the the government 911 hoax . We are trying to make it simple for hardcore victims of propaganda like "BODY COUNT" by having these media events that seem to be reaching their target.

Refrences:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/jesse64/index.html
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
http://www.deceptiondollar.com

ACCOUNTABILITY FOR FOX

Wouldn't it be great of some bored teenager were to hack into the Fox News website and post something like "TRUTH NOT FOUND ON THIS SERVER" Then list all the times they lie!

I agree about turning it off or changing the channel, the problem is, that won't make those guys take their job seriously.

This is why need Pirate TV, Pirate Radio, and more resposible use of the internet.

Wouldn't it be great to take over the airwaves and air Free Speech TV durring the Oreally factor? do it like Milo did in the movie "Anti-Trust."

Veteran,

I am angry....and I am challenging Sean Hannity.
Let me make myslef clear here. I am not a peace demonstrator, I am not opposed to war if it is just. I just think there may have been a better way to hanlde this. I do believe that Saddam Hussein is a bad man. I also believe GWB is a bad man. Both in their own ways.


Here's my questions and opinions :

I guess I just dont understand why we had to kill a whole country to take out Saddam and his regime (which I beleive is justified, if everything that we are told about him is true). I mean although assasination is against the law. (If Im not mistaken, wasnt it Jimmy Carter that passed or signed on to that?) Anyway, my point being, obviously it would be more cost effective, and obviously alot less people on both sides military and civilian, would be dead. And we wouldnt have had to just bomb the crap out of the place like it was a practice range.Also, I'm sure less people around the world would hate us so much. ( Which is something I am not real comfortable with.) Wouldnt assasination possibly been a better option?
Not only that, why is this campaign called "Iraqi Freedom"? Wasnt the supposed justification for war to disarm? As far as I know, we have found nothing but a few thousand chemical suits. Not saying Saddam doesnt have those weapons, but not real sure anymore that he does. Wouldnt have "Iraqi Disarm" have been a more suiting name? Or is it that the Government is trying to distort the fact that they may not find any WMD's,and are trying twist the focus to look like hero's by freeing obviously oppressed people? So Bush can get his hands on the oil.
Just a few questions that I am curious about, as I am very skeptical of our ( GWB"s ) motivations. I truely believe that he is trying to turn the U.S.A. in to a government that runs the people, not a government run bye the people...which, if I am not mistaken, is what this country was supposedly built on. Remember " Of the people, by the people, for the people?"
Oh yeah...and Sean Hannity can kiss my white American ass !! I'll even tattoo an american flag on it, so he can feel patriotic.

the Fox News shows are always setting up a 'balanced debate' by asking undergraduates in Berkeley who have the vaguest connection with an issue to represent a side against a much older professional right wing commentator. A random antiwar protesters at UC Berkeley who had been quoted in a news story was called by hannity and Colmes a few days ago and they asked him to go on air to defend a Columbia professor who he said that he hoped that 1000 Mogadishu's arise in Iraq. The student had no connection with this professor, and he didn't do it.

Probably, if you called them and said you're a student from Berkeley, they would let you on the air.

Last year, a right wing editor of the student newspaper, Steve Sexton, had a sort of bogus story about the extra-curricular human sexuality class in which some students hooked up. A student in the class wrote a letter to the paper saying that he thought the class was really great and informative. He got a call from O'Reilly asking him to go on the air saying this - so basically a totally inconsequential extra curricular class at a college is national news, in this country of 280 million. Instead, they got Steve Sexton and Ward Connerly to go on criticizing the university as a cesspool, falsely saying that the class was a regular university credit class.

>Explain to my family members left behind why Saddam paid MILLIONS to the death squad's family members?????????

Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. Neither did anu other Iraqis. The hijackers were Saudis and Egyptians. What's the matter, can't you tell a Saudi from an Egyptian from an Iraqi? If not, you're a racist.

O'Rielly should keep his fucking lying mouth shut. He sounds like a fucking nazi and we kill nazis, all of them.

Pictures of Victims of the Anglo-American Aggression in Iraq.
Please note that some of these pictures are not suitable for small children and those who have weak hearts.

http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.noiraqwar.8k.com

We all say : stop iraq war
Amercan soldiers Pictures
Iraq innocent people pictures
letter to the UN security council

We all say : lets stop this aggressive on Iraq
We all say : we dont want more blood

It is wonderful to see these propagandists targeted and I hope to see a major shift to media outlets in the anti-"war" , anti-fascism movement. I stood alone with my sign in front of our local Fox affiliate here for a short time yesterday, and feel others will soon.

My friends have been encouraging me to attend the anti-fox demonstration, but I do not have cable TV and am not familiar with their coverage. You guys say things about the fox people, but I don't know what the message is to which you are opposed. Can you give people like me an example?

Also - I think you are all hurting our efforts with your wishes for violence on others because of their views. How is that peaceful?

This makes me so glad i gave up TV

It really is very liberating, you folks should try it...
...they have these new-fangled things called "books" theyre 10X better than any TV & you dont even have to plug them in or pay a cable bill!

Where the hell did you learn to count? From Sean Hannity? Your just like Hannity, another Republican idiot full of hot air that speaks before he thinks.
I just read your post, and then went back and counted all posts on the page...theres 41...just like it says in the grey box...Either you need to learn to count, or learn to read......DUH...

Where the hell did you learn to count? From Sean Hannity? Your just like Hannity, another Republican idiot full of hot air that speaks before he thinks.
I just read your post, and then went back and counted all posts on the page...theres 41...just like it says in the grey box...Either you need to learn to count, or learn to read......DUH...

FOX NETWORKS EAT SHIT WITH BUSH.

censorship is never a good thing.

Sometimes it is a tolerable thing however.
someone censoring content on a server they own and they maintain and they promote, isnt pretty, but is tolerable.

someone censoring content on airwaves that are owned by the american people and licensed to them by the american people, and trusted by the american people is unforgivable.

The citizens own the airwaves, and it is only through our goodwill and desire to promote freedom that wel are kind enough to rent them OUR airwaves.

When airwaves are abused, all citizens are taken advantage of. When websites are abused, only the few people who actually visit the page are abused.

Besides that, the fact that your comment labelling the people running this site as "stalinists" convinces me that censorship is not happening here.

Fox has single-handedly boosted the U.S. productivity by at least 5% by manufacturing tons of news for the nation! Credits should go to Rupert Murdoch, his manufacturing staff including O'Reilly, Oliver North, Geraldo. Award will be given by Bush and Cheney team at the next annual U.S. National Association of Manufacturers' luncheon. Contact O'Reilly for ticket information.

Thank you for sticking up for the rights of people to censor stuff on their website. This is a property right and property rights are very important and should not be diminished.

my problem with it on this sight is they claim to be so free-spirited but are not. they give their sight a democratic appearance by maintaining a comments section, but they delete views that they oppose. It's the hypocracy of the left to which I point, but I would never challenge them legally over their right to do so.

BTW, I'd love to see a page on this sight denouncing communism, if that's not what they're really about.

First off...I dont know what grey box you are looking at...the one I see now says there are 49 posts... this one would be fifty. Again, if you are able to count the posts on the page, you will see that they coorospond with my grey box figures.
Next, its Spacemonkie with an "ie" not a "ey" on the end...another one of your spelling and/or reading blunders.
Next, you never asked me about Hannity and his Insanity. So how would I know what tell you about him?
Next, from the looks of it...you better quit your posts before you make yourself and your republican nazi's look even more stupid than they already do.
Better yet, keep it going....your a great spokesman for your party. The blind leading the blind...

In response to Van's dismissal of the media's responsibility to the public, you have a few things wrong. First, the first amendmend does not protect lying or misrepresentations of the truth. If a news network consistently lies on issues of public import, it is not protected by the Constitution. Freedom of the press is freedom from gov't censorship, not freedom from libel/slander laws.

Second, you must consider that the public's apathy or cowardice or whatever you accuse them of can be largely attributed to the media's irresponsibility. The public relies on the news media to provide ALL of the information on issues significant to their democracy so that they may properly "self-govern." When the media presents current affairs as if the public has no need and no right to participate in their own democracy, of course American citizens will be passive and apathetic. The marginlization of public dissidents by the media is a perfect example of this. Acts of civil disobedience such as the boston tea party and the lunch counter sit-ins of the 50's are praised as patriotic in our history books, yet the media today labels similar actions as anti-American and even, terrorism.

Thomas Jefferson once said he would rather have a free press and no gov't than a gov't and no free press. He did not say this because he wanted his own version of CNN or FOX news that would propagate gov't views, aiding in his pursuit of absolute power. He said this because he was attempting to create a country that included a system (the press) that would act as watchdog on abuses of power by the gov't and corporations (or at that time, wealthy landowners). Alexis de Tocqueville, author of Democracy in America, which you may have read in high school civics, said, "to suppose that newspapers only serve to protect freedom would be to diminish their importance; they maintain civilization." The press is incredibly important to a functional democracy and it is not doing its job. Thus, protests like the one discussed here are important and necessary.

To those still reading, I would like to briefly respond to a few other posts on this page. One, the public owns the airwaves but this does not include cable television. Cable television does not use the airwaves and thus is not governed by the same laws that apply to broadcast stations that have limited bandwidth. VIacom owns the airwaves in this case.

Second, censorship by an independent media source is not tolerable. What is the purpose of censoring dissident views on this site? It serves neither to protect the visitors to Indymedia nor to facilitate the pursuit of truth, which I had figured was the purpose of creating an alternative news source in the first place. Please stop censoring posts.

Dave,

Yeah, I do have a problem with anyone being denied thier freedom of speech, and I do believe everyone has a right to their own views...I am mature enough to agree to disagree.

It is possible that you are being censored Dave, give it a rest. As for the assertion that opposition to this war only matters if it results in a stoppage of the conflict, that is absurd. There is such a thing as a virtuous action, regardless of the ends to which it leads. Read a little Kant. If someone is protesting this war, it is because their conscience does not allow them to support an unnecessary and illegal military action that has led and will lead to the deaths of hundreds of people. The results of this opposition are secondary in importance to the fact that they are not being pushed around by the majority. They will not let their consciences be compromised simply because people like you tell them that they have no power to stop war. Reconsider your comments, please.

"The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think right." -- Henry David Thoreau

Gee! This site says there are 53 posts but it only shows 30.
That means that 23 got deleted for profanity I think.

It looks like this story hit the target folks. The impassioned reponse from...FOX?, FOX's defenders?, freedom fighters? is so foul and impolite that it cannot even be published on funky indy media.

Now that all you foul mouthed but passionate (and well meaning?) HAWKS out there seem to be tuned in. Let's really talk about this but before we do, you should read what we do about the false 911 snow job by the Bush administration. Let's talk.
Follow the links at:
http://www.deceptiondollar.com

Thanks Space Monkie - back at you on the agreeing to disagree.

I'm frustrated by the us vs. them mentality that exists in our society today. I'd like to blame it on the Dick Morris focus group type, but it's probably not limited to them. A cool thing about a forum like this, is the reduction of arguments to bare words. No one currently reading this is swayed by my appearance, for example.

In my attempts to get a debate going on this page, I've begged and begged for anti-war people to explain their side. More often than not, the retaliatory insults are the only result of anti-war proponents discovering that I am on this page. When they post ad hominem attacks against the administration or fox news or whoever, I ask them to elaborate.

Unfortunately, the operators of this sight don't want a debate. They want to win a war themselves and are fighting as much as any party ever fights. The problem with winning the 'war against the war' at all costs, is that it undermines our civilization and ability to self-govern.

If we all agree that we seek to make a better world, why are some here using profanity, calling names, etc?

Thank you for the civilized responses.

I assure you that posts have been deleted for things besides mere profanity.

My controversial position which was deleted is this:
The American majority who supports this effort is concerned about safety and peace. They merely think this war will make the world more safe.

That said - I love the fact that the Pope, and 30% of Americans are not in support of the action. Your opposition serves to keep the govt in check and obviously has led to measures which have minimized civilian casualties. That is the American way and a model for democracies consdiring war and peace.

Nothing was "deleted." They were merely moved to the [hidden] section, which is accessible from the front page. We do this at the request of our friends and allies, for whose benefit we make this site happen. They don’t want to have to look at this crap and neither do we.

Some comments were hidden because they were obscene. Most were merely pro war. No, you cannot preach war here. We refuse to allow our freeloading, parasite enemies to hijack our time, money, energy and talent, to promote their sick, evil agenda. We’re not doing this to provide them with a soapbox. If they want a soapbox, they can provide thier own.

No one has had their right to free speech restricted. The racists, sexists, homophobes, warmongers and other reprobate scum are perfectly free to spout their filth on the rest of the net, just not here. Speech is free. This site is not. We pay for it. It‘s ours. We intend to run it the way we see fit. If this bothers you, leave.

If you wish to criticize our editorial policy, do it here:

http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/12/1548433.php

If you do it anywhere else, it will be hidden as soon as we notice it.

That’s how it is around here. Get used to it.

Americans are only 6% of humanity. The rest of the world is overwhelming opposed to this war.

Can not find the post that I posted, was it deleted, if so it should be in the hidden posts, I do not find it there. The post that I posted was, complementary, (hmmm?), maybe the dog ate it?

I hope the baby does not get thrown out with the old bath water, as the expression goes.

Power to the peaceful

"Speech is free. This site is not. We pay for it. It‘s ours. We intend to run it the way we see fit. If this bothers you, leave. "

Hummm!. Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. The same applies to FOX News and all networks. They pay for them, it is theirs, and they will run them as they see fit. If that bothers you -- DON'T WATCH!. By the way, you can delete this, because frankly, I am taking my own advise and leaving.

Fox is part of a near media monopoly. <a href="http://www.corporations.org/media/" target="new">Only six huge corporations control almost all of the "mainstream" media. These are not "liberal" corporations but companies like major "defense" (I would say offense) contractor General Electric. While chanting the battle cry that the "media is liberal" they have been actively buying it up and "deregulating" it over the years in order to acheive this monopoly. As usual the goal of these fascists* is to subvert the process of democracy (Watergate, Iran Contra, Pinochett, Marcos etc etc etc)and the problem isn't that some pin head like Bill O'Reilly can get up, spout all bellicose trash and call it totally unbiased "news" but that they <i>all</i> do it (CBS, ABC etc.), that it is the major portion of a more effective and more evil propaganda machine than Pravda/Soviet Communist Party ever was. And they sic their low IQ brown shirt worshipers on us. Verbal attacks on protestors, here in Eureka at least, have become more viscious, more stupid in their recycled rhetoric and are more likely to contain threats of bodily harm. The good news is that there seem to be less of them.
These propaganda bastards have played a major role in destroying the last semblance of democracy, have already played the major part in making us the <a href="http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/rel/icps/worldbrief/highest_rates(manual).html" iarget="new">most imprisoned people on earth and are are bent on a fascist* world conquest in our name and "God's" on the lie that we are "liberating" them. It is not just that someone lies in the news business but that they <i>all</i> do, and in concert with this fascist dictatorship and want to silence <i>any</i> other voice.

They have as much blood on their hands as Kissinger, daddy Bush and now the little dictator, George the second.

I hope to see <i>huge</i> demonstrations at all these media outlets. Little has been more gratifying to me than to see this relativly small and apparently peaceful demonstration at Fox studios. Thankyou.

*fas-cism (fash-is-em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with a belligerent nationalism. [from-It fascio, bundle, group.} fas-cist n. & adj.

-The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (not a "liberal" dictionary)

I know somebody who works in that building. Fox moved out not too long ago. There were no Fox offices or employees in that building. The organizers should research the new location.

i'm really glad some people out there watching the fox network, i personally am awed by their presence and fear they may turn civil disobediance, (actions which would have stopped movements like the women's sufferace, equality among race and gender) just our whole civil rights movement would be threatened if fucks like orelly can make it look like citzens working for peace and rights at home can expect to be called terrorists. Peacful assembly and terrorists, i just don't see the connection.

> Protesters Demand FOX News be accountable to the public
> by Camille Sauvé Thursday April 03, 2003 at 06:46 PM
> wilput [at] earthlink.net

> Their licence MUST be revoked because they are
> misusing PUBLIC airwaves to destroy democracy.

Why is the freq that Fox uses for broadcast (which has nothing to do with their webcast or cablecast content anyway) "public"? Why is it not their private property?

If the entire RF spectrum is "public property", alright then - so is land, right? Space is space, be it broken down into parcels of land of bands of FM. So all land is public too, right?

So you don't have any private space? The apartment or house that you rent, is in reality public space, right?

If you have the right to tell Fox what they can say on their band of FM space, Fox has the right to tell you what you can say in your piece of physical space.

Make up your mind - you can't be a communist one minute and a capitalist the next. Either you believe in the sanctity of private space - everyone's space, even that of Fox News - or you don't.

-Van

p.s. Before you say it - no, RF space is not different because "it's everywhere". There's this thing called a footprint, which is the geographic space which any signal occupies at a given freq. Broadcasts have spatial boundaries (effectively, WRT the signal/noise ratio) just like your home has spatial boundaries.

p.p.s. You're so in favor of FCC licensing and regulation of public airwaves when you dislike the content (Fox), but no doubt you speak against the same regulations when you like the content (any progressive pirate radio). And you see no hypocrisy in this?

>*fas-cism (fash-is-em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with a belligerent nationalism. [from-It fascio, bundle, group.} fas-cist n. & adj.

WRONG!!!!!

From Webster's:

fas-cism (fash' is'm) n. - A system of government characterized by rigid one-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of the opposition, the retention of private ownership as the means of production under centralized governmental control: first instituted in Italy in 1922.

One-Party dictatorships can be right ot left. National Socialism was left, one reason they had such a conflict with communist USSR.

Typically, you'll now get bingo quoting Mussolini regarding what fascism should be "rightly called". Mussolini's government also claimed the trains always ran on time. Mussolini said a lot of things because it fit his own personal agenda, just like the one who uses Mussolini's statement for their own purpose does.

thre just goes your whole argument you jackass

Its good to see (and about time) a more critical anyalisis of news media stations. Although I doubt such a story would be wrote if not for the protesters. That to me is not good enough. There needs to be made a stronger public awarness of these bogus so called 'news' corporations. Good start with Fox News, next stop should be CNN - 'the most onesided nationalistic name in news'. Thankyou for writing these stories and keep up the good work...; )

I thought Fox News was a cable channel. Cable channels are narrowcasted through private cables and satellites.

Why shouldn't they be able to report whatever political flavor they want? They are just appealing to their audience. Just like Indymedia does.

Where is the problem?

Thanks for being one of our most loyal viewers. We distort, you comply.

Sorry, Fox News.

I'm too cheap. I don't subscribe to cable.

Ted

Then please watch the trash that's aired on our broadcast sister, the Fox network. It's basically the same as the "news" that we air.

Mike,

I like the NoTV sight on your website as well. I've had enough foxnewsmsnbccnn to make me swear off tv for at least a week.

Fox news should be brought to court for misleading the American people on so many subjects. Their conservativism not only borders on fascism, but I think they would fit in perfectly well in 1930s Germany.
Of course...fascists don't have the power they had in the 1930s...which is why I look forward to how the people deal with fox news in the future.

"....retention of private ownership as the means of production under centralized governmental control: first instituted in Italy in 1922. "

RETENTION of PRIVATE property.... (this is a pro-RIGHT.. philosophy.., if it is for "retention of private property"..)


centralized governmental control of property, proprietary control of government.

In this issue, PRIVATE OWNERSHIP is sustained. Totalitarian anti-democratic, pro-war propaganda CAN exist in aid to pro-private elite interests, or pro-govt. elite interests.

But in very few instances is it actually the workers (a TRULLY left implementation of theory), who take part in decisions and reap from economic production, when a system IS TOTALITARIAN...... (individual decision making, and active participation by all of the people is inherently contrary to totalitarian ELITE power.....)

Maybe media stories should be decided by vote.
please vote from the following options
A) the israeli soldier kills an innicent civilian
B) tthe israeli solder kills a terrorist
C) the terrorist kills the soldier
D) the "innocent civilian" kills the soldier
vote now!
make the news accountable to the public!!

Arent these demonstrations another way of saying"we dont think you should be allowed to say what you do, we know what you should be saying", that sounds a little scary to me, what about the right of freedom of expression? Surely listeners and viewers have the ultimate control in their hands as to whether they listen to the FOX (or any other) stations. Or are you saying that people should not have the right to choose?

Here's a piece on the Republican Spin Machine that I did a couple of months ago. If you want to see more, go to my site bush-o-grams.com.
Peace
Carl

Well I'm not a Fan of CNN, FOX or any news network for that matter but why protest the Fox news channel?
Are you people against free speach or are you Fachist like the Nazi's and free speach is only applicable when you agree with it?
I know Fox news is a biased news network but so is CNN and any other news networks out there and if you dont like something, YOU have the choice to change the channel.
Anyway Fox news is not targeted towards Liberals Just as indy media is not targeted towards conservatives so wats the problem?

" I know Fox news is a biased news network but so is CNN and any other news networks out there "

CNN glorifies war and simplfies issues to soundbites. Fox openly lies.
Fox has the legal right to lie in the way it does.
People who find it repulsive also hve the right to organize against Fox and organize boycotts of NewsCorp (anyone who watches the Simpsons or goes to NewsCorp produced movies is paying for the agenda Fox promotes).