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Open letter re: strategy on break-away/Black Bloc marches

by old-skooler
A few thoughts regarding recent breakaway and Black Bloc marches, and how they could be done better
I meant to write this after the March 15 break-away march, but didn't do so, mostly because i didn't want to sound like Old Man Anarchy schooling the kidz, and also because i thought some lessons would have been learned. however, after participating in the Black Bloc for the brief time it lasted before getting busted on March 20, i felt compelled to write this.

first off, i've been a part of mass street actions in SF since the mid-90s, and have been arrested in a few of them, sometimes by choice and sometimes from getting rounded up. i've spent a bunch of time analyzing how the cops operate in these situations, and talked to many others with experience about it as well.

i was very impressed with the organization of the Anti-War Action folks during the break-away march on January 15, it was well-done and street smart and very inspiring. the organizers who were making calls on which way to turn, when to sprint or slow down, and what targets to visit did a great job.

i missed feb. 15, but was there on march 15. first of all, it was really hard to find, the info was not posted well at all, though perhaps there was a security reason for not announcing where it was going to start. early on, the break-away went off market down to mission, which was a mistake. the cops really love to trap people on that side of market, both because of street logistics and because it's much more out of sight than market or the other side of market (i.e., towards the north or west). later in the march, as it was heading up market towards embarcadero (in the street intead of on the sidewalk), people started to lead the march up one of the streets (perhaps powell? i forget exactly, but near there), but then others intervened and persuaded the march to get on the sidewalk and stay on market. shortly thereafter, there was a countdown from 10, at which point a couple people started sprinting across market and down 3rd st. (i believe) toward mission, and then the rest of the crowd followed. why would we want to leave market and head down a deserted street? the cops blocked the march and forced everyone onto the sidewalk about halfway down the block, and began pulling in more cops to trap the folks in front. even though it should have been very obvious to anyone looking around that this was happening, and even though it took the cops a while to complete the trap (the sidewalk heading back to market was wide open), people just hung out and didn't move, even though towards the end people were shouting warnings at them that they were about to be trapped and needed to move. a very belated attempt was made to break out of the trap, but it was too late. as i was leaving the area, i noticed another small group just one block away on mission that was also trapped and being arrested by the cops.

a few lessons from this: 1) be very very careful leaving market and heading towards mission, preferably don't go there at all, the other side of market is better in most every respect. 2) as much as possible, stick together on illegal marches, unless we have the numbers to really occupy a bunch of different places at once like on march 20....or, be prepared to move quickly to avoid traps and stay mobile. 3) because there was no sound system, people tended to follow the awesome flags in front. when that is the case, the flag-bearers have a responsibility i feel to really be on it about what's going on. i think that people could have definitely escaped that trap if the flag bearers would have moved back to market instead of standing around like deer blinded by headlights.

ok, here's what really trips me out. it's march 20 (the big day, day X), and we've succeeded in really tying up the financial district brilliantly. the Blac Bloc starts marching on market, behind us several thousand other marchers, it was a very beautiful moment! about four long blocks ahead on market, there are a bunch of cops, but they are no immediate threat. then for some reason, the march turns off market towards mission, and then hangs a left on mission. before hitting mission, some cop cars have their windows smashed, and there is an altercation with a couple cops who respond. there are a bunch of cops behind us. the march was going very slow up mission, and i didn't see any scouts ahead or really anyone looking concerned. but i was getting concerned, so a buddy and i started running up to the intersection and as we were nearing it, a shitload of riot cops come around the block, sprinting, and seal off the intersection. my friend and i just managed to get out of the trap, and we circled back around, and met up with a couple other comrades who managed to escape the other way before the trap was in place. the rest is history of course: approx. 200 arrested, many of them beaten by the cops. in one fell swoop, the most militant portion of the demonstration was taken out, and taken out hard, which affected what we could accomplish the next couple days.

i don't want to spread paranoia here, or make anyone who was making a call on which way to lead the bloc feel guilty. it's a very difficult thing to make calls like that, and mistakes happen. it's also a really challenging task to try and be anonymous, anti-authoritarian, leaderless, and anarchist, yet have groups be able to think and communicate and move quickly. but i want to know a few things, and i'm hoping that people who read this will ask around as well, because no one i've talked to seems to know: why did someone/some people steer the march off market, and away from the rest of the demonstration? why, when there was such a likely chance of a cop attack (especially on a really militant crowd that was hidden on mission street away from market), were there no scouts ahead? why was the march moving so slowly, given all these factors, down a very long block that could be easily sealed off?

most likely, the mistakes made on march 15 and 20 were just mistakes. but there are a ton of undercover cops that we've been noticing, including two in black clothes with earpieces (in particular, one enormous fucking dude who had a video camera on one march and was in the front of another march). it would be pretty easy to lead marches in bad directions, you often just need a loud and convincing voice or to start sprinting in a certain direction. so, let's just try and think clearly about how best to do break-away and Black Bloc marches. again, i think the january 15 (and from what i've heard, feb. 15) were good examples of ways to organize them effectively, march 15 less so, and in my opinion, and the one on march 20 was a disaster.

thanks for your time in reading this and hopefully talking it over with your friends and affinity groups. i hope the tone in this was respectful, because i think people have done some positive and effective work, and i really want these tactics to work. the ritualized, official weekend marches just don't cut it.
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by Darksyde888
On march 20th we did the same mistake as march 15th, we got off market st. I was at the front of the march carrying one of the small banners, i noticed a guy in a red shirt and khaki cargo pants with glasses, tell people at the head of the march to go off market because there were cops up ahead on market street. remembering the mistake of m15, i tugged on the banner and got the attention of the guy on the other end, i said stay on market, but no one seemed to listen, I heard a person in front of me say, "let's lose the cops, go this way." at this point i should have pulled out of the march, my instincts and previous experience told me not to but i stuck around and got arrested along with many others. the march was slow in getting started because of the big banner, and because it was unclear as to where the march should head. I think that attacking those squad cars near civic center especially while the march was barely underway, and in plain view of a corporate media camera crew (ktvu), the public, and some police was wreckless and stupid- it was an open invitation for the police to attack us.

As for having runners on bike on the lookout for cops it is a great idea, other direct action groups use this tactic and it has worked for them. i learned to follow my gut instinct and to stay off mission, be careful. in solidarity, Darksyde.


ps. those who were arrested at 7th and mission, or elsewhere, there's a class action lawsuit that will be filed against the city for false arrests. Please consider joining the lawsuit, it is one way of fighting the police repression. there's a link in the indybay front page for those of you who haven't heard about this yet.
by Darksyde888
On march 20th we did the same mistake as march 15th, we got off market st. I was at the front of the march carrying one of the small banners, i noticed a guy in a red shirt and khaki cargo pants with glasses, tell people at the head of the march to go off market because there were cops up ahead on market street. remembering the mistake of m15, i tugged on the banner and got the attention of the guy on the other end, i said stay on market, but no one seemed to listen, I heard a person in front of me say, "let's lose the cops, go this way." at this point i should have pulled out of the march, my instincts and previous experience told me not to but i stuck around and got arrested along with many others. the march was slow in getting started because of the big banner, and because it was unclear as to where the march should head. I think that attacking those squad cars near civic center especially while the march was barely underway, and in plain view of a corporate media camera crew (ktvu), the public, and some police was wreckless and stupid- it was an open invitation for the police to attack us.

As for having runners on bike on the lookout for cops it is a great idea, other direct action groups use this tactic and it has worked for them. i learned to follow my gut instinct and to stay off mission, be careful. in solidarity, Darksyde.


ps. those who were arrested at 7th and mission, or elsewhere, there's a class action lawsuit that will be filed against the city for false arrests. Please consider joining the lawsuit, it is one way of fighting the police repression. there's a link in the indybay front page for those of you who haven't heard about this yet.
by Dave
Your suggestions apply to all marchers, not just the Black Bloc. I saw a similar occurrence last Friday on the Market/Powell 5 pm march, where the cops rounded up 200 or so protestors behind the Civic Center, separating them from the back end of the march. One of the organizers told us to march back to Market, where we were grossly outnumbered by the police and the small crowd gradually dispersed. Of course, the organizers couldn't expect that, but shouldn't the tactic be to circle around the Civic Center to be in solidarity with the Franklin/McAllister folks, rather than just fall back to Market and dwindle in numbers? What upset me more was the attitude of the organizer, who was very nonchalant about it. Ironically, her response to me was that "all we can do is stay together." For Chrissakes, that was my point!
by Darksyde888
On march 20th we did the same mistake as march 15th, we got off market st. I was at the front of the march carrying one of the small banners, i noticed a guy in a red shirt and khaki cargo pants with glasses, tell people at the head of the march to go off market because there were cops up ahead on market street. remembering the mistake of m15, i tugged on the banner and got the attention of the guy on the other end, i said stay on market, but no one seemed to listen, I heard a person in front of me say, "let's lose the cops, go this way." at this point i should have pulled out of the march, my instincts and previous experience told me not to but i stuck around and got arrested along with many others. the march was slow in getting started because of the big banner, and because it was unclear as to where the march should head. I think that attacking those squad cars near civic center especially while the march was barely underway, and in plain view of a corporate media camera crew (ktvu), the public, and some police was wreckless and stupid- it was an open invitation for the police to attack us.

As for having runners on bike on the lookout for cops it is a great idea, other direct action groups use this tactic and it has worked for them. i learned to follow my gut instinct and to stay off mission, be careful. in solidarity, Darksyde.


ps. those who were arrested at 7th and mission, or elsewhere, there's a class action lawsuit that will be filed against the city for false arrests. Please consider joining the lawsuit, it is one way of fighting the police repression. there's a link in the indybay front page for those of you who haven't heard about this yet.
by Dave
Your suggestions apply to all marchers, not just the Black Bloc. I saw a similar occurrence last Friday on the Market/Powell 5 pm march, where the cops rounded up 200 or so protestors behind the Civic Center, separating them from the back end of the march. One of the organizers told us to march back to Market, where we were grossly outnumbered by the police and the small crowd gradually dispersed. Of course, the organizers couldn't expect that, but shouldn't the tactic be to circle around the Civic Center to be in solidarity with the Franklin/McAllister folks, rather than just fall back to Market and dwindle in numbers? What upset me more was the attitude of the organizer, who was very nonchalant about it. Ironically, her response to me was that "all we can do is stay together." For Chrissakes, that was my point!
by LTW
I was at the M21 mass arrest at hayes/franklin. Having a couple people on bikes scout out ahead and behind maybe could have avoided that ugly 200+ people arrest and nightstick beatdown. I think its a combination of naivete on the part of some march organizers, who really don't seem to get what lenths the the SFPD is willing to do to stop protestors, and undercover PD, who will go to those lengths for them. That was a planned move to box people in.
by LTW
I was at the M21 mass arrest at hayes/franklin. Having a couple people on bikes scout out ahead and behind maybe could have avoided that ugly 200+ people arrest and nightstick beatdown. I think its a combination of naivete on the part of some march organizers, who really don't seem to get what lenths the the SFPD is willing to do to stop protestors, and undercover PD, who will go to those lengths for them. That was a planned move to box people in.
by g
i totally agree with you. i'd like to add a couple more points, too. the march 15th protest did get blocked off by cops about two blocks from the spot that we got arrested on thursday. they had us surrounded then for about a half an hour, till everyone just realized that they didn't have enough force to arrest us (i'm assuming - we snuck around the block. i never saw how it was actually defused). mission street is dangerous for us. there are so many alley ways that the police can use to ambush us, but the main danger, it seems, is that there is no pedestrian traffic. market street and the immediate shopping districts are crowded with pedestrians. when we get surrounded, we can duck into the crowd. that's how we made our way back up mission on the sidewalks - by blending in with shoppers and reconverging. mission street doesn't have that sort of diversion.

another thing that i noticed though with the 7th and mission arrest thursday, though, was that the police don't have that many transport busses. did you notice how long it took them to arrest all of us? hours! they had to fill a bus, drive us to the pier, transfer us to muni busses in the parking lot, and take the police busses back for another round of arrests. what if we could have phoned other organizers at the main rally area blocks away at the civic center to get back up? there were thousands of people congregated there, with a huge sound system that could have broadcast a call to get groups to block off the surrounding blocks. each prison bus could fit, what, 30 of us? there were 2 or 3 hundred people with our group being arrested - which means the police would have had to take many trips back and forth to the pier. if we could have got people blocking off the exit routes for those police busses, it would create a huge diversion for the majority of us to have gotten away. just as we can block business traffic, we can block police traffic. just as they can surround and contain our masses, we can surround and contain theirs. regardless of whether they have sticks and shields, our sheer numbers and organization will always give us the advantage.
by t-bird
If we could figure out the route of police transport busses, here's what we could do:

1) Identify an intersection that is approximately one-third of the distance between the mass arrest location and the bus destination. I think that distance is the best because it is probably a good distance from where the arrest is, but not too far for some of the cops to leave the arrest and go to the bus.

2) As soon as the bus gets to that intersection, a group bursts in front of it and blocks it. Soon after that, other demonstrators block the back and a few block the sides.

3) Have someone phone either in the bus or in the bus blockade make a phone call to a protestor at the mass arrest location and inform them that the bus has been successfully stopped. Imagine the joy and encouragement that the protestors will feel when they hear the good news!

We really need to make a website that contains all sorts of tactics and strategies on simulated city areas (not a city-specific website, but one that will benefit those in SF, LA, NY, DC, Portland, anywhere!).

Possibly Riseup.net wil host us, but they're not accepting more sites as of now.
by puentes
one of the reasons why the march intentionally splits off, besides just organizational mistakes, is that it may be felt that while it's good to have numbers if it stays together, more can be done, in terms of blocking different intersections simultaneously, etc..., if it splits off into autonomous groups.

i wonder however what the scale is for this to be effective? obviously having pods of twenty or so temporarily blocking intersections until the cops come is quite effective, and having these all over in different parts of the financial district becomes a logistical nightmare for the cops. they're are also ever flexible, tightly organized and very mobile, as well as being much less corruptable and infiltratable to cops hijacking.

i'm not so sure however, as the above posting addresses, when its a couple of hundred people breaking off...? its probably right that it is not a good tactic, especially when the group in itself is demonstrating peacefully and not engaging in other tactics of disruption.

would be interested to hear of what tactics folks feel are most effective.
by Xylem (xylem [at] scpj.org)
I actually happened upon this march on my bike (i was mobile all day), but i quickly escaped as i wanted no part of what was about to happen.

my feelings are, and i know i'll get a lot of flak for this:

1. that the Black Bloc is a strong group that does some things very well, like confronting police when they're being unnecessarily violent.

2. random (vs. directed) property destruction (like smashing police car windows), for all the theorizing (and i've read a lot, much of it very intellectually compelling) isn't helping the general cause to make an overall better world.

3. why do you *wear* your costume? of *course* the cops are angrier at you than at any single group -- you destroy things and challenge the status quo the most. why not dress like *Republicans* (in a suit) and then go about your business? do you not think *that* would confuse the authorities the most?

ok, as for the rest, i'm posting something i wrote to an email list i'm on, only semi-applicable, feel free to respond here or by email: xylem [at] scpj.org.

in Solidarity-
X

--------------------------------------------------------------------

i have to so fully agree with this -- though there are various actions of
protesters i strongly disagree with -- taunting and pissing off the police
and media are high among them.

[ Below i give a long critique of how some protesters treat the media and
police at our street protests ]

now i'd like to get back to this issue about how people yell and insult
the police and media. where is *that* getting anyone? it is so entirely
juvenile and silly to vent one's anger at the larger forces at play this
way, i personally find. they are all of them human, and when you have one
to one conversations with them as they stand in their lines or do their
reporting, (as i regularly make an effort to do) doesn't it seem like
talking with them would be the thing that would endear them to your cause
the most, make it most likely that they're less likely to hit you or the
next person harder with their baton the next time they have to use it, or
that the reporter will take a very positive view of the protests, and
report on them that way?

it is one thing to call out "shame" when cops are unnecessarily beating
the crap out of someone, and i do this, or talk to them telling them it
isn't right etc. -- it is another thing to taunt them without provocation,
call them "pigs" etc. when they're just standing in line or marching along
-- why else do they get angry and take it out on unsuspecting innocent
protesters at time, after a day of frustration where they've had to bottle
it all up?

i had so many conversations with the cops throughout the day as they stood
in their lines, often they would be cold and reserved initially, but i
would draw them out, say that i would bet that a lot of the police weren't
for the war, and that how had their day been going, how did these protests
compare to before etc. -- i found it really a very human interaction, i
always do. obviously, when they form rank and draw batons, things become
very militant very quickly, and they *will* hit you if ordered to -- but
you have made it harder for them to do this easily, once you have broken
past the barrier of "us vs. them" and they see *you* as a fellow human
that they can't hate as easily.

to this end, i want to esp. point out a woman cop A. Calahane that i
talked to at the attempt to retake the bridge around 7.30pm, when it was
clear the police were out in force and there was no way they were going to
let us onto the bridge, and people dispersed away (i had to catch a
Caltrain back to Stanford at 8, for our debriefing meeting about our
cluster's morning action, so couldn't march all nite, though i would've
liked to!), i just talked with her for a good while, and she was really
cool. :>

second -- what the *hell* does yelling at reporters do? many (most?) of
*them* are also on our side. obviously they are under tremendous
editorial and social pressures at times to report things in a certain way,
because of the way that corporate media works (and if anyone hasn't yet
done some learning about the media through e.g. Bagdikian's books or
<fair.org> etc. then it is high time -- media consolidation, and hence,
their lying crap, has gotten only worse in recent years, and i personally
believe they should totally be our next primary targets, because of how
badly they are representing reality to the general public. e.g. like CNN,
which has a downtown SF suite office, but this is for another email..).

but these reporters are human in the same way, and they're *not* going to
take any more of a liking to you or report your story better if you yell
at them. it just hardens the divide, makes them see you as an immature
person who needs to vent your rage somewhere, any pretext will do, and
they happen to be the unlucky target.

after a particularly vituperative tongue-lashing by some protesters of a
hispanic cameraman for KPIX (many people had been doing the same to the
reporter with him, Manny Ramos, and another camerawoman standing on top of
their van), i went up to him and said that not all protesters were like
that, thought like that. and he said he really appreciated me saying
that, pointed out that the "f--- corporate media" graffiti somewhat had
scrawled on their van's hood didn't esp. thrill him either, and that
reporters were out in this melee trying at least to cover it, and that the
media in fact were *what* kept the protesters from being beat up badly at
times, etc. (btw, i'd say it's one thing to deface public or semi-public
property like SFChron newsstands, a whole 'nother to do it to private
property, which no one likes to have done to anything of theirs).

and then we had a long conversation about all these issues, media
censorship and bias (which he agreed with), how much his work had been cut
at times, that he wanted to actually go work for Reuters (i didn't even
know they did TV), etc. he *also* told me that he had been in Palestine
last year (Jenin etc.), had done a really great story on it that he was
proud of, that it wasn't cut, and that he would send me a copy if i
wanted. so i took his # down and will call him and get that.

now which approach is going to endear us and our causes to them more?


i think the elements in our movements who engage in such puerile behavior
have lost their way to the strength and discipline of past movements such
as that led by MLKing, and will need to regain it to grow up slowly, gain
the focussed power those movements had to effectively make *nonviolent
change* actually happen, so that we *can* stop this f'd up war, and all
future ones.

peace friends, thanks for reading through if you did, and thanks for being
in the streets if you were -- and don't stop now -- we are *just*
beginning!!!

power to the peeps, see you in the streets-
-X
by Xylem (xylem [at] scpj.org)
I actually happened upon this march on my bike (i was mobile all day), but i quickly escaped as i wanted no part of what was about to happen.

my feelings are, and i know i'll get a lot of flak for this:

1. that the Black Bloc is a strong group that does some things very well, like confronting police when they're being unnecessarily violent.

2. random (vs. directed) property destruction (like smashing police car windows), for all the theorizing (and i've read a lot, much of it very intellectually compelling) isn't helping the general cause to make an overall better world.

3. why do you *wear* your costume? of *course* the cops are angrier at you than at any single group -- you destroy things and challenge the status quo the most. why not dress like *Republicans* (in a suit) and then go about your business? do you not think *that* would confuse the authorities the most?

ok, as for the rest, i'm posting something i wrote to an email list i'm on, only semi-applicable, feel free to respond here or by email: xylem [at] scpj.org.

in Solidarity-
X

--------------------------------------------------------------------

i have to so fully agree with this -- though there are various actions of
protesters i strongly disagree with -- taunting and pissing off the police
and media are high among them.

[ Below i give a long critique of how some protesters treat the media and
police at our street protests ]

now i'd like to get back to this issue about how people yell and insult
the police and media. where is *that* getting anyone? it is so entirely
juvenile and silly to vent one's anger at the larger forces at play this
way, i personally find. they are all of them human, and when you have one
to one conversations with them as they stand in their lines or do their
reporting, (as i regularly make an effort to do) doesn't it seem like
talking with them would be the thing that would endear them to your cause
the most, make it most likely that they're less likely to hit you or the
next person harder with their baton the next time they have to use it, or
that the reporter will take a very positive view of the protests, and
report on them that way?

it is one thing to call out "shame" when cops are unnecessarily beating
the crap out of someone, and i do this, or talk to them telling them it
isn't right etc. -- it is another thing to taunt them without provocation,
call them "pigs" etc. when they're just standing in line or marching along
-- why else do they get angry and take it out on unsuspecting innocent
protesters at time, after a day of frustration where they've had to bottle
it all up?

i had so many conversations with the cops throughout the day as they stood
in their lines, often they would be cold and reserved initially, but i
would draw them out, say that i would bet that a lot of the police weren't
for the war, and that how had their day been going, how did these protests
compare to before etc. -- i found it really a very human interaction, i
always do. obviously, when they form rank and draw batons, things become
very militant very quickly, and they *will* hit you if ordered to -- but
you have made it harder for them to do this easily, once you have broken
past the barrier of "us vs. them" and they see *you* as a fellow human
that they can't hate as easily.

to this end, i want to esp. point out a woman cop A. Calahane that i
talked to at the attempt to retake the bridge around 7.30pm, when it was
clear the police were out in force and there was no way they were going to
let us onto the bridge, and people dispersed away (i had to catch a
Caltrain back to Stanford at 8, for our debriefing meeting about our
cluster's morning action, so couldn't march all nite, though i would've
liked to!), i just talked with her for a good while, and she was really
cool. :>

second -- what the *hell* does yelling at reporters do? many (most?) of
*them* are also on our side. obviously they are under tremendous
editorial and social pressures at times to report things in a certain way,
because of the way that corporate media works (and if anyone hasn't yet
done some learning about the media through e.g. Bagdikian's books or
<fair.org> etc. then it is high time -- media consolidation, and hence,
their lying crap, has gotten only worse in recent years, and i personally
believe they should totally be our next primary targets, because of how
badly they are representing reality to the general public. e.g. like CNN,
which has a downtown SF suite office, but this is for another email..).

but these reporters are human in the same way, and they're *not* going to
take any more of a liking to you or report your story better if you yell
at them. it just hardens the divide, makes them see you as an immature
person who needs to vent your rage somewhere, any pretext will do, and
they happen to be the unlucky target.

after a particularly vituperative tongue-lashing by some protesters of a
hispanic cameraman for KPIX (many people had been doing the same to the
reporter with him, Manny Ramos, and another camerawoman standing on top of
their van), i went up to him and said that not all protesters were like
that, thought like that. and he said he really appreciated me saying
that, pointed out that the "f--- corporate media" graffiti somewhat had
scrawled on their van's hood didn't esp. thrill him either, and that
reporters were out in this melee trying at least to cover it, and that the
media in fact were *what* kept the protesters from being beat up badly at
times, etc. (btw, i'd say it's one thing to deface public or semi-public
property like SFChron newsstands, a whole 'nother to do it to private
property, which no one likes to have done to anything of theirs).

and then we had a long conversation about all these issues, media
censorship and bias (which he agreed with), how much his work had been cut
at times, that he wanted to actually go work for Reuters (i didn't even
know they did TV), etc. he *also* told me that he had been in Palestine
last year (Jenin etc.), had done a really great story on it that he was
proud of, that it wasn't cut, and that he would send me a copy if i
wanted. so i took his # down and will call him and get that.

now which approach is going to endear us and our causes to them more?


i think the elements in our movements who engage in such puerile behavior
have lost their way to the strength and discipline of past movements such
as that led by MLKing, and will need to regain it to grow up slowly, gain
the focussed power those movements had to effectively make *nonviolent
change* actually happen, so that we *can* stop this f'd up war, and all
future ones.

peace friends, thanks for reading through if you did, and thanks for being
in the streets if you were -- and don't stop now -- we are *just*
beginning!!!

power to the peeps, see you in the streets-
-X
by Darksyde888
Thank you for the criticism, you brought something to my attention that I completely forgot about- does anyone remember the J18- 1999 actions in London's financial district? If you don't recall, these actions cost 1 or was it 10 million dollars in damage to the financial district. Basically what happened in this particular protest was that instead of the protesters dressing up in all black in broad daylight, they dressed as yuppies- nice suits, ties, and sunglasses. Armed with mobile phones and on the look out of police, this yuppie block if you will fucked ths shit out of the London financial district. A problem that occured was that some people were identified after their photos were posted on the internet. since they had no masks it was easier to identify these people. Some were turned in by neighbors and co-workers. This tactic is riskier, but could work if done with speed.
by Lydia (girl [at] lydiw.net)
Thank you Xylem for your comments, it is good to see that people are speaking up against some of the juvenile/unproductive tactics used by many of the protesters. While I am very passionate and involved in the movement against the war and for preserving our rights that have been blatantly trampled in the past three years, I don't think a bunch of 16 year olds in black masks breaking Old Navy windows and taunting drivers stuck in traffic is going to do any good.

Here are some points I want to make:

Dressing in business, or more conservative attire will do wonders for how people view the group. This is unfortunately a country very much consumed in image, lets play their game. On M20th I purposefully wore a "work" outfit and blocked intersections and streets by playing off a dumb business woman stuck in the middle of the chaos role. The cops didn't get it, I didn't get arrested, and I blocked a lot of cars.

Peacefully blocking intersections in strategic points on organized days like M20th worked well for stopping business as usual. I participated for several hours and was pretty happy with it. But it needs to be more clear to some of the people stuck in these demonstrations WHY we want to stop business as usual. They should be treated with respect, given cookies, have demonstrators talk to the individuals in cars. "Sorry for the inconvenience, but this is why we are doing this..."

What is the point in demonstrating at night, when business is shut down?

If and when you are being arrested, go LIMP. It will take multiple cops to haul you off and if the cops are so consumed with trying to pick people up, it may open an opportunity for other people to escape and move to a new location.

At first I have to say I was very sceptical about Civil Disobedience. A few things have changed my mind: Radical actions require a radical response (Bush is very radical right-wing), and history. Obviously change doesn't come about easily, and thoughout history their have been internal struggles over wars and civil rights. I believe this is a movement much bigger then just the war. The war is just a symptom of everything else going on in this country's current state. I was reading about the women's suffrage movement in the late 1800's today and some of the radical means they used to get attention after their peaceful protests and petitions were not heard. One thing they did was send out a small group of women to throw stones at building windows. As these women were getting arrested, a new group was deployed to a different location. As they were arrested, a new group went elsewhere, and on and on for hours. I don't sugget breaking windows, but maybe some tactics like this would help us in other ways.

We need more organization, better leaders. Some kind of code words to intiate a group run to a new location. Was anyone there on February 16th at the breakaway when suddenly hundreds of people ran down the street to escape the cops closing in on us? It was so exhilarating and amazing. We can outsmart them- they are waiting for orders- we are spontaneous.

I agree with Xylem- don't attack the media. Protesters attacking the media has become a new nightly segment on many stations. It doesn't help us. We know they are full of lies and bullshit, lets talk to them about it.

I have so much more to say, but I'll leave it for later. I have a gallery of images online from the massive January protest if anyone is interested:

http://www.flammer.com/lydia/galleries/Protest_1.03/index.htm

Also a flash movie from M15 (may have to reload page after movie has loaded):
http://www.flammer.com/lydia/flash/march15.html

Peace and grease,
Lydia
by fernan
the scouts and the planning against the police busses are great ideas guys.

as for the turning off of market towards mission, i have noticed this several times as well. after getting caught up on those side streets twice, i now let the cops go down those side streets first specifically to avoid getting boxed in again.

during the m22 ANSWER march, two white males in their late 20s kept trying to pull the People of Color Contingent off of Mission down 8th street cuz they always have a tricycle-mounted sound system and they are a lively bunch. the contingent stayed on mission, but when i ventured down 8th to see what was up, there were a shitload of cops laying in wait.

obviously, there are a lot of undas trying to steer crowds into ambushes, so stay alert y'all!

in addition to not getting boxed in, be fluid. when the cops cut off a street, circle around them, so that we can box THEM in. when we surround the cops at an intersection, they can't go anywhere, and we have four different avenues of escape.
stay in motion, the cops can't respond quickly at all. they can only set ambushes at pre-approved spots. if we don't go to those spots, they will constantly be following us around, and we can be way more mobile than them.

i doubt if the cops are even prepared to go north/west of market, so yeah, let's use those streets more.

also, speaking of ambushes, i was observing the riot cops that were waiting for the black bloc in front of the library on m22, and you guys punked the f#@k! out of them with that marching band and the people waving the flags.....you totally took the wind out of the pigs' sails cuz they were ready for a beatdown!
the music also made for a great soundtrack to any video footage of that scene.
epic.

after the black bloc led all the piggies down 7th, the people left on market took over that intersection, and there were no cops left to clear it of all the people that were skankin their asses off in the streets...
by nnk
Yes, if you sit down and talk with the media as humans they will seem really nice. yes, if you talk to the cops as people they will be really cool. Yes, if you talk to GW Bush one on one he'll probably come off as a lovable fellow. And even Hitler had a *girlfriend* so apparently he got along with *some* people.

But the second the conversation ends, everyone re-assumes their societal roles and all of your lovely, stupid, naive humane-ness goes right out the window. Tell me, did any of your litlte interactions with the cops stop any of the incidents of random police brutality against bicyclers, tourists or random passersby?

This is obviously your first protest and you really have no idea what it's like out there. Have you seen the media coverage? They were relatively generous in the sense that they didn't show much of the broken windows or trashed army recruitment offices (bet you didn't hear about that one, did you) but they were still uniformly negative and have done absolutely nothing to help the anti war movement.

Here's something else to chew on: if one of the drivers you inconvenienced with your little sit-in got out and talked to you as a human being and explalined to you how he's just a gardener and is losing customers and money to support his kid, would you have let hiim by?

Yeah, didn't think so.

Look, next time you're out there, don't be so gullible and maybe you'll actually accomplish something lasting and worthwhile, hmmm?
by old-skooler
indymedia is a very handy communications tool, it was really interesting reading the responses to the piece i wrote since it was posted 14 hours ago.

i just wanted to put it out there that my piece was not meant as a critique of the black bloc or tactics in general. not that i think i have any control over the comments or would even want to, but i'd like to suggest that folks who want to complain about how the black bloc or aggressive tactics in general are counterproductive, they may want ot start a separate posting and thread about that. i certainly don't think they are, and i'd rather not spend my time sifting through those comments here, instead, i think it's more effective to address the specifics of what could be done better on black blocs, break-aways, or as some suggested, other demonstrations.

thanks and rock on y'all...
by Adam
Here's what groups that I've been in have used as tactics for organizing march contingents (and it could equally apply to Black Block tactics).

We choose a tactical team of several people (2-4) who are experienced and trusted. They are in charge of directing and making the decision for the group, rotate them for each march/event. In a march contigent they may take each corner of the march or in a tighter formation they should be at the front directing the flag carriers (which everyone is following). THe flag carriers may used the flags to signal things, like to link arms etc.

For BB, you want to create teams of runners who are constanly roving and reporting info to the tactical team so they can make quick informed decisions. You may also want to use a call, like a single word, that signals for people to group together.

On the sides and rear you may have designated people to to make sure the group stays together. You may also designate people to be agitators who have bullhorns, lead the chants, and communicate with the group.
help them see they can be subjects of history.

the one thing that the moralist pacifists and the moralist fuck-shit-uppers agree on is that blocking traffic is really cool. this is a damn good reason to be suspicious of it, as far as i'm concerned.

i suspect i'm waging a losing battle on this one, but I think this whole emphasis on creating traffic jams is, all and all, A BRAIN-DEAD TACTIC. it's one thing to shut down a given intersection and throw a party, but when it's done gratuitously--"we're striking a blow against the system by making you late for your life"--it's just lame and irritating. It pisses people off not only because it causes inconvenience but because it conveys contempt and treats people like props/objects. we need to catalyze actions that make people feel power-full, not power-less.

As far as the media, I disagree totally with Lydia and Xylem. The mass media in this country is a branch of the capitalist state--to think that it will transmit messages that further revolt is ridiculously naive. When you earnestly engage the professional liars you only legitimate their existence. Our critique is best enunciated when we are seen ridiculing, undermining, and attacking them.
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