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Pictures Of The IDF Murdering An American Protester

by IDF Are Murderers
Here are pictures I found on the AP newswire that were probably taken by the ISM activists
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by Arrest Sharon and Bush For War Crimes
The IDF punishs whole communities (through bulldozing of houses and curfews that cause food shortages)for the actions of individuals. This form of collective punishment is a form of ethnic cleansing. It is an attempt to make the lives of Palestinians impossible and encourage Palestinians to move out of the West Bank and Gaza into other refugee camps. While the US is talking of Iraqs war crimes, nobody pays attention to Israel and with thousands of innocent Palestinians killed in the past year even the death of an American college student doesnt get much mention in US headlines.

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/israel3/israel0502-10.htm
by this thing here
terrible. sickening.
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by ?
Why is it a huge incident when a Wall Street Journal reporter is killed in Pakistan but its hardly new when a young woman is killed in Palestine?
by bov
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A witness,Greg Schnabel, 28, from Chicago, said: "[Rachel Corey] waved for the bulldozer to stop. She fell down and the bulldozer kept going. We yelled 'stop, stop,' and the bulldozer didn't stop at all. It had completely run over her and then it reversed and ran back over her."
http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1583440.php
by IDF are murderers
Israelis have been so free to do what they want that they were emboldened enough to kill an American citizen.

What you won't see in any American media is the below quote from an ISM witness (Greg Schnabel) who said that the tank had completely run over her and then backed up over her again.

From the picture above you can see the tracks going all the way over her and then some.

What you will see on CNN is damage control by quoting the IDF who lie through their teeth and you will not see any ISM witnesses whose quotes are corroborated by evidence like the above photos. Importantly, you will also not see the above photos on CNN and they will try to bury this story as soon as possible.

From Ha'aretz:
Greg Schnabel, 28, from Chicago, said the protesters were in the house of Dr. Samir Masri.

"Rachel was alone in front of the house as we were trying to get them to stop," he said. "She waved for bulldozer to stop and waved. She fell down and the bulldozer kept going. We yelled 'stop, stop,' and the bulldozer didn't stop at all. It had completely run over her and then it reversed and ran back over her."
by repost
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Peace activist Rachel Corrie is shown at the Burning Man festival in a photo from September 2002, in Black Rock City, Nev. Corrie, 23, a student at The Evergreen State College in Olympia, Wash., died Sunday, March 16, 2003, in the Gaza Strip
by disgusted with supporters of Israel
I'm totally disgusted with supporters of Israel like "Dan" who defame the memory of this brave young activist by spamming this thread with Zionist lies.
by Activist
When the civil war comes, I'll be more than happy to pump a few rounds into the asshole white guys posting to "Little Green Footballs" who are making light of this brave young woman's death.

You right wing fucks think that activists are a bunch of pushovers. We outnumber you fucks and not all of us push flowers into the barrels of guns.
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Rachel Corrie is on the far right in this photo.

I'm trying to understand how the right wingers/israel supporters posting here can be so insensitive about this.

There is no doubt from the photos above that Rachel was in clear view of the Israeli bulldozer driver who ran her over intentionally crushing her and yet supporters of Israel still have the gall to write in and make horrible remarks against her. I am just absolutely horrified, sickened, and disgusted.
by Agnostic Blunt (roderune [at] hotmail.com)
Israel is ruled by Zionist murderers. They have been murdering Palestinians for the last decades, and now they murdered a young American woman named Rachel Corrie who was brave enough to stand up for an oppressed people, the Palestinians..

Right wing religious fundamentalists in Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are responsible for leading the World's People into World War Three. Let the agnostics/athiests voice finally be heard. We are being drowned out on all ends by delusional religious fanatics, especially the Zionist scum that have taken over our media and refuse to report on Rachel Corrie's murder by Israel's Zionist regime..

The US media remains silent, not wishing to betray their beloved ally, Zionist Israel. We cannot expose Israel's terrorism, just as we cannot expose our own domestic terrorism against the Native Peoples of America. For four hundred years European immigrants whose descendents now refer to themselves as "US citizens" have taken away the lands, rights and cultures of the original Native Peoples. Herding people into reservations and then mining those lands, stealing their water is genocide..

This same pattern of genocide is happening in Israel, with the support of America. Just like how America, with the help of Henry Ford, Prescott Bush, Alcoa Aluminum and Walt Disney helped Hitler gain power so they could stifle the Communist Revolution. All of the above favored eugenics and genocide, which is the same today with George Bush, Ariel Sharon, Saddam Hussein and Tony Blair. All these leaders/powers support genocide and ethnic cleansing..

As a result of these tyrants remaining in power, innocent people are dying..

The Volcano of the Middle East:
The Agonising Transformation of the Palestinian Peasants into Proletarians

The creation and evolution of the Israeli state are depicted by the bourgeoisie as one of those idyllic epics for which it has a strong predilection. Haven't the insufficiently praised virtues of this tiny people, its toil, its courage and perseverance, made the deserts bloom? In reality this fairy tale, spread with an aura of self-righteousness, conceals the drama of the expropriation of the rural populace. To be sure, all the zones of this planet which have been opened one after another to the penetration of capital have witnessed this drama. But in Palestine it attained a degree of cynicism and barbarity heretofore unequalled. Everywhere the capitalists attempted to deny the fact of this expropriation outright in order to preserve the philanthropic (!) purity of their deeds. In Palestine they even went so far as to deny the existence of the expropriated population, «a land without people for a people without a land»! Isn't it easier this way? «In actual history», wrote Marx, «it is notorious that conquest, enslavement, robbery, murder, briefly force, play the great part.» For the bourgeoisie, «Right and «labour» were from all time the sole means of enrichment, the present year of course always excepted. As a matter of fact, the methods of primitive accumulation are anything but idyllic.» (1)

The «paradise» in the Negev desert, the flourishing cultivation of citrus fruits and avocados on the coastal plain as well as the industrial boom (even on the scale of a very small country) presuppose the complete despoliation of the Palestinian peasants. The history of their expropriation is similar to that of the English peasants, which Marx said, «is written in the annals of mankind in letters of blood and fire.»


Read it here:

http://www.sinistra.net/lib/upt/compro/liqe/liqemcibue.html
by ...........
A dog who plays in traffic should expect to get hit by a car. Or a bulldozer, as the case might be.
by Brave young Peace Activist
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On 16 March 2003 in Rafah, occupied Gaza, 23-year-old American peace activist Rachel Corrie from Olympia, Washington, was murdered by an Israeli bulldozer driver. Rachel was in Gaza opposing the bulldozing of a Palestinian home as a volunteer with the International Solidarity Movement.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml
by Fuck IDF Murderers and Supporters
Israel supporter writes:
--"What do you expect?"

I expect that a bulldozer will not run over a peace activist in full view. Is that too much to expect from your beloved IDF murderers?
by BOYCOTT
BOYCOTTING ISRAEL...
by Sequence of events in pictures
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At least two of these pictures disappeared from this thread up above. Were they removed by someone at IMC?
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by ......
"In full view"? Actually, no. According to all reports she lay down in front of the bulldozer.

It's is pretty sad, she was probably a really nice person, too bad she decided to throw her life in such a manner.
by ...
that should be "throw her life AWAY in such a manner..."
sorry.
by the real ...
A pro-Israel loser is using my usual handle to post such an insensitive remark. Absolutely disgusting. Go to HELL.
by the actual ...
I'm pro-Israel. And I think that the Palestinians should have a country as well. But they aren't going to get it from American college students throwing themselves in front of moving bulldozers.
by Sean
The account i read, from the AP, said that she fell to her knees as the bulldozer raised a mound of earth beneath her. It also said that the driver made eye contact with her before he rolled over her. Regardless it's obvious that the driver knew she was there, its not like she threw herself under it at the last moment she had been standing there shouting through a bullhorn. This isnt the first time activists have been killed in gaza although i think it may be the first American. Anyone who believes the Israeli military line that this was an accident obviously hasnt been following the story.
by Harbinger
This event is neither Sad nor Wasteful. This girl knew what she was getting into and inso put herself in harms way... this time harm didn't give, she did. If she didn't know then she was stupid, and that means one less stupid person in the world... I'm OK with that too. Either way, she's obviously a martyr now which I'm she she's gloating over in whatever here-after she's in.
by End the Occupation
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Compare and contrast the nonviolent efforts of Rachel Corrie with an Israeli mass murderer laudee as a "hero" in Israel. this is the sort of Israeli state terrorism U.S. tax dollars pays for.

http://www.newkach.org/special/baruch/02.htm

excerpt from site:

"On the Feast of Purim (February 1994), Dr. Baruch Goldstein, dressed as an army officer, entered the Tomb of the Patriarchs, and shot to death 29 Arabs and wounded approximately a hundred more. It is our great misfortune that Dr. Baruch Goldstein may G-D avenge his blood, who was brutally murdered by the Arabs is no longer with us."
by israeli_sympathizer
I don't know if you ever seen D-9 or D-10, up close. Let alone armored one. If you did, you would have known, that it's almost impossible for the driver to hear anything, and he can see relatively very little ahead. (planty of dead zones, where the driver can't see). Where the house was demolished, there is a constant risk of snipers. Making arests is unnecessary risk for the soldiers.

I believe, that a 20 something year old girl, is old enough to be responsible for her own body, and not standing so close to a bulldozer, in the middle of a warzone!!!, because its DANGEROUS!!!!
by relieved
I've been worried that people are being taken in by left wing propaganda. Perhaps there is hope after all. Look, she was part of a group playing cat-and-mouse all day with the bull dozers. The references to her being "murdered" are dishonest. There is good reason to believe that it could have been an accident , easily, and she certainly put herself in harms way. I don't think we can rule out the possibility that the driver did it on purpose but it's far from clear that he did. It sure is clear that this group had spent the day attempting to provoke just such a response.

Have you seen the pictures of her burning an American flag? Seems that she was not such an innocent after all.
by Stop Funding israeli State Terror
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Compare and contrast the nonviolent efforts of Rachel Corrie with an Israeli mass murderer lauded as a "hero" in Israel. This is the sort of Israeli state terrorism U.S. tax dollars pays for.

http://www.newkach.org/special/baruch/02.htm

excerpt from site:

"On the Feast of Purim (February 1994), Dr. Baruch Goldstein, dressed as an army officer, entered the Tomb of the Patriarchs, and shot to death 29 Arabs and wounded approximately a hundred more. It is our great misfortune that Dr. Baruch Goldstein may G-D avenge his blood, who was brutally murdered by the Arabs is no longer with us."
by Chris
If you look at the pictures, its obvious the driver can see she's there. And she certainly did not throw herself in the bulldozers way at the last moment.

Either way, it highlights the fact that a large number of palestinians killed are certainly not 'militants'. Houses have been demolished over deaf people who haven't heard the orders to get out. Old people have been crushed by the bulldozers. The israeli army treats everybody with complete callousness. They even shot two of their own security guards a few days ago, and look at the photos of that incident? The car is completely riddled with bullets. Is that really neccessary? They certainly didn't look before unleashing their murderous barrage.

This incident is another example of the lack of discipline and responsibility of the Israeli army. You can't give a bunch of kids guns and expect them to police a civilian population!!! The only reason these children have compulsory militiary service is because they are so naive, and will believe that they are out in the West Bank for legitimate reasons. And once they have been forced to become murderers, there is no turning back. Either keep going, or face the consequences of your actions.

This is Israel's problem. It has to keep pushiong forward with its terrible offensive. If it stops, it knows that it has a terrible price to pay for its crimes. But you can't push on indefinately!!! One day you will exhaust yourself, and the consequences will roll over you like that bulldozer rolled over the young lady who was killed. Better to stop now, and deal with the consequences in a construcitve manner, than suffer even more later. And at the end of the day, how bad could the consequences be? Even the Germans have risen out of the destruction of their nazi state and become a fairly progressive country. White South Africans survived the end of apartheid. The Israeli's can make a choice between compromise now, or utter loss later. Either way they will survive, as always, but one way will lead to a lot less suffering.
by Mag
It seems to me that your angry response to right wing proponents entirely contradicts the sentiments and objectives of peace activists. Try focuses more on emphasizing good instead of hating the bad. Your anger and haste makes you no better than those you contradict. Also, why didn't any of Rachel's friends push her out of the way. Obviously, they were there and saw that she was going to be crushed by the bulldozer. Why did they all just let her get run over. They should have thrown her out of the way and made sure that she didn't get run over because unfortunately she was not going to do so. I think that this was a tragic incident, but it could have been avoided. She should have realized the far greater goods she could have realized had she lived to achieve them. Instead, she chose to end her life in this manner. I think that it is unfortunate because it could have been prevented. However, I just want to reiterate that those who are angry and spiteful against Israel and right winged conservatives are no better than those directly causing the harm. It is the anger and hate that is the problem, regardless of who is directing it towards whom. Let's follow Mother Theres's advice and preach for peace instead of fighting with anger. More will be achieved through a constant committment to love.
Mag, What the fuck are you talking about? Go away to your fundamentalist friends. Try reading the accounts of the eyewitnesses. They DID try to help her, you moron. Grow a brain, a heart, and some passion.

Read these 2 articles for the facts:
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml and
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1253.shtml
by Joe Schmoe
Truly sad story.
The thing that first strikes me is that she obviously knew she was doing something quite dangerous to begin with. Not that she deserved such a fate, but it's quite intellectually dishonest to blame the driver based on ad hoc descriptions from emotional biased co-participants.
The second is that I don't see any posts by opponents to her activism reacting with glee over her death. This in stark contrast to the posts by dozens of leftist activists when the CIA agent was killed in Afghanistan by a grenade explosion. I am right of center on most political issues, and I certainly don't take any joy in her death.
Maybe some in this movement could take a bit of an example from this.
Just a couple observations.
by Folke Bernadotte of the UN

The driver was in control of the bulldozer.

Rachel wasn't driving the bulldozer.


Why was the driver bulldozing homes?
Why didn't members of Der Judenstaat try to stop the driver?

Why do members of the cult always have an "excuse" for killing goyim?
by gehrig
"Why do members of the cult always have an "excuse" for killing goyim?"

Thanks, "Count", for that revealing summary of how you really think.

@%<
by Folke Bernadotte of the UN
Copy the code below to embed this movie into a web page:

How many examples of a "terrible accident" must I supply before you will answer the question, gehrig?



Watch the attached video of the IDF shooting Huda Hawaja in front of her children while they prevent an ambulance from attending the scene to MAKE SURE the children get to see their mother bleed to death in front of them.

Then listen to the excuses from the chosen ones.

Soldier:
"We're supposed to purify this camp of something dirty."

Army spokeman:
"It's a mistake, honest, terrible mistake"


Ra'annan Gissin (govt spokesman):
"I would have expected a little more, I would call it "self-censorship" on the part of the Israeli media - the same that was displayed during various stages of the operation in Afghanistan by the American media. THAT'S ALL I WANT".

Watch the video to understand how Israel DELIBERATELY creates suicide bombers.

Try to imagine it was YOUR MOTHER that was shot.

Try to imagine HOW YOU WOULD FEEL in the situation.

Demonstrate your human capacity for EMPATHY (theory of mind about others)

Don't pretend that the video doesn't exist.


Answer the question. (expect it to repeat until you do.)




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BBC News | MIDDLE EAST | Israel sorry for mistake killing
... mistake killing Palestinians carried the coffin of Atidal Muammer Israel has apologised ... The
shooting was "a terrible mistake", Mr Naveh told a news conference. ...
news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/ newsid_825000/825438.stm - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
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The Hebron News Homepage
... A terrible mistake cost the lives of two innocent individuals ... However, unfortunate
as it is, Israel is presently ... than once soldiers have been killed and injured ...
http://www.hebron.org.il/news.htm - 24k - 16 Mar 2003 - Cached - Similar pages
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Human Rights Watch World Report 2001: Israel, The Occupied West ...
... at least one of whom was killed and twenty ... the IDF saidthe killing was "a terrible
mistake," and stated ... Israeli-occupied territories and in Israel continued, as ...
http://www.hrw.org/wr2k1/mideast/israel.html - 38k - 16 Mar 2003 - Cached - Similar pages
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The Commonwealth Club of California | Event Archive: Michael Oren
... Thirty-four [U.S.S Liberty] American servicemen were killed. ... call in and acknowledge that they've
made a terrible mistake. ... tragedy, a low-point in US-Israel relations certainly ...
http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/02/02-06oren-qa.html - 27k - 16 Mar 2003 - Cached - Similar pages
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Bargarz
... the IDF admission that they made a terrible mistake when they shot and killed a British ... serious
concerns about the killing and accused Israel of delaying ...
bargarz.blogspot.com/2002_11_24_bargarz_archive.html - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
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by drew
im sick of these evil murderous zionist jew parasites,murdering and stealing!
look at what they did to this poor woman!!!
she was a courageous american and a hero in my eyes.
but what sickens me is that the instruments of her death were supplied by american to the israeli dogs for free!!!
evil murderous scum!!!!
her death will be avenged!!!!!!!!!
by Agnostic Blunt (roderune [at] hotmail.com)
From some of the posts it is obvious that the Zionists are mentally sick. There have been several pro-Israel posts that rationalize the murder of Rachel Corrie. Zionists refer to her as a dog and say she deserves what she got. That the bulldozer could not see her standing on a mound of earth directly in front of the murderous machine. Maybe the driver could not see because he was blinded by hatred, like so many other Zionists.

Fuck all your bloody religions..
by Chris
I agree that anger and hatred will not make the situation any better. However, I am an ISM activist. I have been out there, protecting the Palestinians from a murderous occupation, and have seen the callousness of the Israeli soldiers first hand. My first post was angrier than I would normally be, because her death strikes so close to my heart. I didn't know her, but I very easily could have. In fact, that could have been me.
She was so brave, and died for doing something so responsible. And I understand better than many others how her death will not be in vain. She is a martyr of a different kind. A martyr for a movement of peace springing up all around the world. She died trying to stop the oppression of a people she had never met. A response to my last post mentioned Mother Theresa. A lady who sacrificed her whole life to helping people she didn't have to. Rachel sacrificed her whole life to help a people she didn't have to.

I stand by what I said about Israel earlier. That it must quit now, or suffer the consequences. I don't say this with anger anymore, simply as a matter of fact. Spirituality is not about seeing things through rose-tinted spectacles, but about seeing the truth. When an injustice is being committed, call it an injustice, don't use your words to cover it up, and make it 'all-right really'. That is spiritual weakness.
I see the Israeli people going down the path of the Germans last century. I've seen their attitude first hand. If you are concerned with love and peace, you need to be able to call out hatred and oppression when you see it.
by Brent Morris (enjoihawaii [at] hotmail.com)
This is a fucking outrage!!!!
After all the help the US has given Israel for them to kill one of our people is horrendous!
by gehrig
"Count": " Then listen to the excuses from the chosen ones. "

So once again you claim you're protesting the Zionists, not the Jews -- and then you disprove it with your own wording. So pardon me if I neglect to dance to your tune.

@%<
by Folke Bernadotte of the UN
How 90 Peruvians became the latest members of the cult:
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Ben-Haim says that after he finishes the Hebrew course, he may join the army, "because I wasn't in the army in Peru and that is something I lack, and also because I want to defend the country and if there is no choice, I will kill Arabs. But I am sure that Jews kill Arabs only for self-defence and justice, but Arabs do it because they like to kill."

He bases this belief on his scientific view of Judaism: "The Arab has the instinct of murder and killing like all gentiles, and only Jews do not have that instinct - that is a GENETIC FACT."
===================
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/comment/0,10551,770315,00.htm


Why do members of the cult always have an "excuse" for killing goyim, gehrig?

Did you watch the video of your terrorists-in-uniform murdering Huda Hawaja in front of her children?

Was it a "terrible accident"?

Did the soldiers "purify the land of something dirty", in your view?


Where is your human capacity for empathy, gehrig?
by Joe Schmoe
I'm not sure where everyone on this thread is coming from, but it's obvious to most Americans that the actions of both the Israeli Military and the Palestinian Terrorist Suicide Bombers are mostly deliberate. I dare say it does not seem so in the case of the bulldozer and the activist.

If, in your view, the bulldozer driver bears all responsibility for the death and the activist none, you are simply ignoring key facts in this case. Your emotions have gotten the better of you.

By definition: if you offer yourself as a "human shield", you are well aware that the danger you are PLACING YOURSELF in is the VERY THING that will likely cause others to stop their actions. There is no other reason to become a "human shield".

Also by definition, you accept this danger since a lack of your deliberate action will eliminate all risk.

Likewise, if you force someone else into the position of having to act to avoid harming you, and they fail to act, they DO NOT bear the responsibility for your loss. YOU DO.

It is called personal responsibility, and it is perhaps the most fundamental element of justice in any society. If you don't accept the principle, there is no point in discussing this topic any further.
by Fahad
Our friend Rachel Corrie (nee Razal Khouri) is in heaven with Allah now. She now has 72 virgins of her own. This is a big change from her time in Gaza, when she was servicing guys who've been around the block a few times, if you know what I mean.
by gehrig
"Our friend Rachel Corrie (nee Razal Khouri) is in heaven with Allah now. She now has 72 virgins of her own."

That kind of crap (and the worse part that follows) is completely uncalled for. You can debate the wisdom of what she did, but that doesn't make her an open target for slander.

@%<
by Me
Hey idiots! If you stand in the path of an oncoming bulldozer...MOVE!
by Scottie
Human sheilding is based on the premise that they are willing to show disregard for their own life and they expect that you will show a greater regard for their life. In a sort of a immoral game of chicken.
since they dont actually want to get killed this means that one only employs human sheild tactics against those peopel with high morals. Ie one doesnt play chicken with a suicidal maniac.
Then you get an odd situation where they would presumably be silent in the face of real evil as real evil would not care if it crushed a human sheilder.
Either that or they are intentionally killing themselves to prove a point. But I dont find this credible.
by American
There is no reasoning with religious animals: jewish christian or otherwise.
by Barry
Anyone that even dares to blame this activist for being murdered is obscene. She was clearly visible, standing, had a megaphone, and did not pose a threat to anyone.

People that try to blame this activist for being murdered would also blame the victim for being robbed. I am very disappointed in how insensitive and ignorant some of the posted comments are.
by notreally
The proof that is the case has not been made.
by Construction Worker
Ummm...

That there 'dozer is about the size of a UTE and armored to boot. Those things don't go more than a few miles an hour.

If she didn't step out of the way, then she was wanting to die.

I've seen guys in wheelchairs move faster than those size dozers. There's no way that thing ran her down.

She wanted to die.

End of story.
by Joe Schmoe
OK, let's all settle down and not go overboard belittling the human shields. They are passionate about what they believe, right or wrong. They think they are doing something constructive. The problem is they are simply not rational about the risks and who is responsible for taking them. But if you want to be taken seriously, you have to tone down the rhetoric and deal with the facts. That goes for both sides. Ditto on prematurely prosecuting the bulldozer driver. There aren't many people in this world that are capable of knowingly driving over another person with a bulldozer while looking them in the eye. He's not likely to be one of them. She wouldn't be the first to be killed in a bulldozer accident.

To Barry: I understand you are upset, but you offer a false analogy. First, the driver is not the moral equivalent of a robber if he didn't see her (a question that remains unanswered). And a true robbery victim doesn't typically step in front of a robber and offer themselves as a target. If the situation were to meet both criteria, then you'd have a much more valid analogy.
From a common sense perspective, she left herself no way out if something went wrong. It should be obvious to everyone that something did go wrong. I think there's a lesson in there somewhere. Those who choose not to learn it are doomed to relive it.
by JA
Archbishop Desmond Tutu used to declare about the, then, apartheid state of South Africa: "Apartheid is immoral, apartheid is evil, apartheid is wrong." The very same thing is true about the Zionist apartheid state of Israel. Indeed, Desmond Tutu said that if you substituted the words Black for Palestinian and South Africa for the political and physical conditions in Israel, you almost wouldn't know that you weren't reading about, then, Apartheid South Africa. Nelson Mandela, upon his release from prison, proclaimed in his American cities speaking tour before stadium audiences in the tens of thousands (60,000+ in the S.F. Bay Area), that: "The Palestinian cause in my cause!"

Israel is just as racist, evil and immoral as apartheid ("Jim Crow") America was; ISRAEL is just as RACIST, EVIL and VILE as apartheid South Africa was; Israel is just as racist, evil and immoral as Nazi Germany was up until 1942 (long after the Nazi persecution began in the early 1930's, ironically, of the European JEWS, but before the death camps started in the last few years of the war, 1939-1945). Only world public opinion keeps Israeli Jews from commencing "THE FINAL SOLUTION" to "THE PALESTINIAN PROBLEM." The majority of the Israeli public already supports the complete ethnic cleansing--total population transfer--of Palestinians from Palestine.

The Israeli flag belongs in the pantheon of evil flags--right along side to the Confederate flag, the old apartheid South African flag, and the NAZI flag, as well as any other such flags. (I'm sure that Native Americans would put the American flag right up alongside there too.)

For those so-called "liberal/progressive" Zionists who recoil at my bluntness, it is time for you to WAKE UP and realize the fact that Israel IS a RACIST, EVIL, WICKED and IMMORAL state whose RACIST ideology needs to be abolished right along with other racist ideologies.

The courageous Bay Area Jewish-American veteran photojournalist, pro-Palestinian human rights activist, and anti-Zionist public speaker, Jeffrey Blankfort confronted some Zionist Jews at the Saturday anti-war protest rally in Jefferson Park in San Francisco, and told them that the Israeli flag that they had wrapped around themselves is just as "RACIST" as the Nazi flag was in Germany.

I am sickened to hear of Rachel's death, and the many more innocent Palestinians who are killed by Israel every day, and my heart goes out to Rachel Corrie's family, as well as to all those Palestinian families whose loved ones are killed by the state of Israel too. Rachel was a courageous person, because she didn't have to be there, bearing witness, trying to protect innocents, and doing Peace.
by Burniating
Ummm...didn't you post this same thing in, like, three other threads?
by gehrig
" The courageous Bay Area Jewish-American veteran photojournalist, pro-Palestinian human rights activist, and anti-Zionist public speaker, Jeffrey Blankfort"

Just to be clear, that is the same Jeffrey Blankfort whose picture now adorns a supposedly "anti-Zionist" site owned by David Duke, thanks to his association with Wendy Campbell?

@%<
by Tengu
The little girl from Evergreen State College, Olympia, WA, has given the ultimate gift. Thank you, Rachel. We understand how much you loved your life, how much you valued the lives of others. Rest assured, your death shall not have been in vain. We will never forget the name of RACHEL CORRIE.

RACHEL CORRIE! shall be the rallying cry against ethnic cleansing. RACHEL CORRIE! shall be the cry against the lies of Zionist fascists and American warmongers alike. RACHEL CORRIE! shall stop the tracks of international corporate robbery and theft. We are with you RACHEL! We will never forget. Long live RACHEL CORRIE!
by Gunter
Rachel Corrie Lied

Die Fahne hoch die Reihen fest geschlossen
S. A. marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt
Kam'raden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen
Marschier'n im Geist in unsern Reihen mit

Die Strasse frei den braunen Batallionen
Die Strasse frei dem Sturmabteilungsmann
Es schau'n auf's Hackenkreuz voll Hoffung schon Millionen
Der Tag fur Freiheit und fur Brot bricht an

Zum letzen Mal wird nun Appell geblasen
Zum Kampfe steh'n wir alle schon bereit
Bald flattern Hitler-fahnen Uber allen Strassen
Die Knechtschaft dauert nur mehr kurze Zeit
by sonsof1984
If these dozers are so slow - then they can stop
by KT (kstani [at] peoplepc.com)
An accident? One might believe that were it not for the ongoing, everyday brutatility of the Israeli occupiers toward the people of Palestine. In other words, based on the observed behavior of the occupying force over a long period of time, this act of murder was business as usual. Rachel Corrie died standing for peace and compassion. She hurt no one. I would be a million times more honored to serve and die alongside the Rachel Corrie's of this world than to stand beside the murderers, warmongers, and hate-filled cowards who condemn her now. Long live the memory of Rachel Corrie.
by JA
Simple-minded, racist Zionist Gehrig says: "that is the same Jeffrey Blankfort whose picture now adorns a supposedly "anti-Zionist" site owned by David Duke"

Gee, ya think that Blankfort sent it too him? David Duke probably has a cross with Jesus on it in his house too -- he probaby mentions God on his website too -- what would that make Jesus or God? A couple of anti-Semites?

What about your association on the same webpage with anti-Zionist people like me? You must be a self-hating Jew, Gehrig!!!

(Yo Gehrig, don't you have some idiot friends to go hang out with?)
by sonsof1984
Religions can be inherited but don't carry a specific gene. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddism, Hinduism, Pagonism, Atheism, Agnostism - you name it - no genes. There are black, white, brown, red, yellow
in all the faiths and non-faiths. There are Caucasian, Black, and yes Arab Jews - there are the same in all faith and non-faith groupings.
The only common "gene" is Human Beings - FACT
by gehrig
Jackass: "Simple-minded, racist Zionist Gehrig says: "that is the same Jeffrey Blankfort whose picture now adorns a supposedly "anti-Zionist" site owned by David Duke" Gee, ya think that Blankfort sent it too him? "

No, I think Wendy sent it, since she's in it too and the notice is hawking her tape, to what she thought was just an anti-Zionist site, not noticing (and ignoring when it was pointed out to her) that the site was run by neo-Nazis.

Now, maybe I'm wrong; maybe they just grabbed the information the same way they grabbed the IMC banner -- that's right folks, if you want to see the IMC banner on a neo-Nazi website, here's your chance.

As to whether or not I'm simple-minded, well, I'll let the readers decide where I compare against you (especially if they can see you fumfuh in that Hitchens video).

Jackass: "What about your association on the same webpage with anti-Zionist people like me? You must be a self-hating Jew, Gehrig!!!"

That really the best you can do, Jackass? This is an open site. (As Windy Wendy would put it, "duh.") To get something posted on the neo-Nazis site I mentioned, you've got to talk to the webmaster -- if you can catch him between sieg heils. Or appeal to his neo-Nazi pseudo-heart ("duh" again).

You're really not very good at this dialectic thing, are ya.

Jackass: "(Yo Gehrig, don't you have some idiot friends to go hang out with?)"

Now _that_ must have gone over really well in fourth grade. Good thing you kept the cue card.

@%<
by Folke Bernadotte of the UN
How 90 Peruvians became the latest members of the cult:
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Ben-Haim says that after he finishes the Hebrew course, he may join the army, "because I wasn't in the army in Peru and that is something I lack, and also because I want to defend the country and if there is no choice, I will kill Arabs. But I am sure that Jews kill Arabs only for self-defence and justice, but Arabs do it because they like to kill."

He bases this belief on his scientific view of Judaism: "The Arab has the instinct of murder and killing like all gentiles, and only Jews do not have that instinct - that is a GENETIC FACT."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/comment/0,10551,770315,00.htm


Why do members of the cult always have an "excuse" for killing goyim, gehrig?

Did you watch the video of your terrorists-in-uniform murdering Huda Hawaja in front of her children?

Was it a "terrible accident"?

Did the soldiers "purify the land of something dirty", in your view?


Why are members of the zionist cult incapable of demonstrating empathy for goyim?
by JA
poor Jackass tries his darndest
by gehrig Tuesday March 18, 2003 at 10:03 PM:

"blah, blah, blah..."

Response:

Yo Gehrig!: I see you put a lot of work in to it. DO YOU THINK I CARE???

Do you think that I'm going to sit around debating some racist Zionist like you. You *ARE* David Duke -- the *Jewish* David Duke. And "niggers" to you are Palestinians, if not Blacks too (for I don't know anyone who hates Palestinians who--like Sharon--doesn't hate Blacks too).

(I really posted my *short* remark so that your 'logic'/'point' could be humorously laid bare for others to see.)
by Think about it...
The Earth it'self moves comparatively slow in relation to a comet.

40,000+ of metal does not stop on a dime. Just because something is not at high speed, does not mean the inertia of it will not carry it forward.
by Folke Bernadotte of the UN
Why do members of the cult always have an "excuse" for killing goyim?

DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO of your terrorists-in-uniform murdering Huda Hawaja in front of her children?

Was it a "terrible accident"?

Did the soldiers "purify the land of something dirty", in your view?


Why are members of the zionist cult incapable of demonstrating empathy for goyim?


Should we bulldoze Jewish homes in America and then blame any DEAD JEWS who dare to try and stop us?


Think about it...
by gehrig
Jackass: " (I really posted my *short* remark so that your 'logic'/'point' could be humorously laid bare for others to see.) "

Too bad that you made such a hash of it in the process that, like the Pinto of old, your argument exploded on contact with fact.

Thanks for playing.

@%<
by Folke Bernadotte of the UN
DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO of your terrorists-in-uniform murdering Huda Hawaja in front of her children, Gehrig?


WHat does it mean to YOU to be part of the the cult?
by fbun
>Was it a "terrible accident"?

Yes, it was a terrible accident.
by Folke Bernadotte of the UN
see also , the godess Kali, Kundu, Cunti
--> cunt, cunnilingus, cunning, kin, country

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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=accident
ac·ci·dent
n.
1) An **unexpected** and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm: car accidents on icy roads.
2) An **unforeseen** incident: A series of happy accidents led to his promotion.
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I see we have already demolished the credibiblity of Israel's statistically miraculous collection of "terrible accidents":
http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1584487_comment.php#1585185

Deir Yassin

the assassination of Count Folke Bernadotte

the Lavon Affair

the U.S.S. Liberty

the pre-emptive Six Day War

the bombing of Iraq's nuclear power station

the settlement of "occupied territories" by chosen-warriors of deity.

the "Generous" Offer of bantustans.

the deity covenented "birth-right" to "return" for Baruch Goldstein.

the deity covenented "birth-right" to "return" for Peruvian converts

the shooting of Huda Hawaja and witholding ambulances so her children could watch her die

"the stranger in our midst"

the "art students"

the "Odigo warning"

the "Urban Moving Systems"

the Dominik Suter

the JDL

the AIPAC

the JINSA

the "Clean Break"

the Project for the New American Century

the September 11 Perle Harbor


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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cult
cult
n.

1) religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
2) The followers of such a religion or sect.
==========================================


I suggest you stop trying to destroy the meanings ascribed to the units of our native language.

Language is not zionist putty.


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through the looking glass
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'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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by Sean (sdfadfasd [at] yahoo.com)
The arabs who help carry out suicide terrorism against Israel, will continue to lose their homes.
" Palestinians murder for the sake of murder"-- Ariel 'Bulldozer' Sharon
...G-d bless America!
by qupd
because he does not recognize the only demoncracy in the east...
by give me a break
There is no democracy in the Middle East.
by give me a break
There is no moon.

The earth is flat.

Oxygen and hydrogen do not make water.

by Dictionary
In Israel, 100% of Israeli citizens (including the 20% that are muslim Israelis) have an equal vote.

Israel is a democracy. That is a fact.

A perfect democracy? Of course not. But it's a democracy. The conflict between Israel and the people who live outside of Israel and are not Israeli citizens does not in any way negate the fact that Israel is a democracy.

DEMOCRACY:

1. Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained and directly exercised by the people.

2. Government by popular representation; a form of government in which the supreme power is retained by the people, but is indirectly exercised through a system of representation and delegated authority periodically renewed; a constitutional representative government; a republic.

3. Collectively, the people, regarded as the source of government. --Milton.


by Mike
The fact that you people can even equate the Israelis with Nazis show your utter stupidity, ignorance and even anti-semitism. There is one minor difference between the European Jews who were needlessly slaughtered, and the Palestinian cause. The Palestinian terrorists are killing Israelis. I think that's not a trivial component. These terrorists are monsters, and I have many friends who are in the IDF and you know what... they are some of the kindest gentlest human beings I have ever seen. They tell me the hardest part of their job isn't the training or that they constantly put their lives at risk, but rather it is having to impose restrictions on innocent Palestinians. But they understand the necessity of their job, and realize that as long as these pathetic terrorists kill innocent Israelis (both Jewish and Arab) they must perform their duty. So while you ignorant protesters cry for the dismantling of the greatest army in the world, you are simultaneously calling for the destruction of the State of Israel. Instead of being threatened by this, I can rest calmly knowing that the greatest army in the world will protect the country of my fellow people, and all you ignorant North American pansies can cry all you want, but the IDF will continue to flourish, and so will the State of Israel. P.S. before you make any statements on your website, I suggest you properly research your sources...this is a general piece of advice, because you radicalist whaccos tend to publish improper information at the same rate that you ask your parents for money.
by Mike
The fact that you people can even equate the Israelis with Nazis show your utter stupidity, ignorance and even anti-semitism. There is one minor difference between the European Jews who were needlessly slaughtered, and the Palestinian cause. The Palestinian terrorists are killing Israelis. I think that's not a trivial component. These terrorists are monsters, and I have many friends who are in the IDF and you know what... they are some of the kindest gentlest human beings I have ever seen. They tell me the hardest part of their job isn't the training or that they constantly put their lives at risk, but rather it is having to impose restrictions on innocent Palestinians. But they understand the necessity of their job, and realize that as long as these pathetic terrorists kill innocent Israelis (both Jewish and Arab) they must perform their duty. So while you ignorant protesters cry for the dismantling of the greatest army in the world, you are simultaneously calling for the destruction of the State of Israel. Instead of being threatened by this, I can rest calmly knowing that the greatest army in the world will protect the country of my fellow people, and all you ignorant North American pansies can cry all you want, but the IDF will continue to flourish, and so will the State of Israel. P.S. before you make any statements on your website, I suggest you properly research your sources...this is a general piece of advice, because you radicalist whaccos tend to publish improper information at the same rate that you ask your parents for money.
by IslandCougar
Facts: The Isreali state would not exist as it does if US taxpayers weren't used to sustain it. The Isreali state is the only state in the Middle East with nuclear weapons. The Isreali state is on stolen land. The indigenous Jewish and Arabic people from that region are indistinguishable genetically. The Palestinians are prejudiced against by the Isreali govt. The Palestinians are desperately struggling for their physical survival. Isrealis have killed 4 times as many Palestinians as Palestinians have killed Isrealis. Most Middle Eastern govts are despotic regimes maintainted and/or created by the US. Sharon has publicly stated that Isreal controls the US.

Question: how would Isrealis react if a foreign occupying country imposed curfews on them, and was in their streets with tanks and snipers on their roof tops shooting children and others, foreign journalists and human rights watchers trying to stop the bloodshed?

Question: how would Isrealis react if the Palestinians recieved $Billions in military aid which was used to kill and terrorize Isrealis?

Question: how would Isrealis react if Palestinian bulldozers supplied by the US were destroying their countrymen's homes, and also killed an American human rights observer?

Question: how would Isrealis react if they were forced to go thru constant checkpoints and harrasment simply going to work?

Question: how would Isrealis react if a foreign govt continued to build settlements on their land, breaking their promises not to do so?

Question: how many must be killed, both Isrealis and Palestinians, before everyone on both sides of the fence stops thinking of revenge and starts thinking of reconcilliation and remembering we are all brothers...sharing the same air, water, earth?

Question: Is not killing inhuman, the worst human deed, no matter who does it, because life is precious and sacred?.

Question: how can we call ourselves human beings and live without human compassion for everyone everywhere?

Peace and love to all people, everywhere, whether black, white, isreali or palestinian. Life is too short to waste it being angry and mean.
by non-idiot
Some ignorant person asked: "Why is it a huge incident when a Wall Street Journal reporter is killed in Pakistan but its hardly new when a young woman is killed in Palestine?"

THE ANSWER: The wall street journal reporter was kidnapped, made an example of in front of the entire world, made to "admit" that he is jewish, and slaughtered like cattle specifically because the arabs who are most anti-israel are ALSO, IN FACT, rabid jew-haters who actually lust at the thought of slitting the throat of a jew such as that reporter.

The young woman killed in the palestinian territory CHOSE to go to an area that the US consolete specifically said to avoid, CHOSE to stand in front of a moving bulldozer, and then by some misfortune fell and/or lay down and was run over. Furthermore, israeli bulldozers typically do NOT do that. That was a RARE incident. Terrorist-loving protesters have been doing that type of crap all week that week (and in the past, too), and the fact that they were willing to do that is proof that it was a rare incident. If protesters were run down all the time by bulldozers, rest assured they would stop doing it. But they aren't typically run over, and it is not israeli state policy to run them over, an INDIVIDUAL IDIOT DRIVER ran her over, and such an act does not help israel in any way, which is why it was probably an accident, and if it wasn't an accident then it was just one moronic idiotic driver.

One driver being an idiot is completely different from MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of arabs lusting at the mere thought of murdering any jewish person they can get at, if they get the chance.

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