Police attempt to confine break away

Welcome to San Francisco, tourists! This is how SF treats its guests, especially those who support peace. Freedom of speech? What's that? Freedom to shop for sweatshop goods? That's what SFPD protects best.

Before visiting this fine city, read up on the SFPD's rampant extrajudicial killings, and think twice before spending your money here.

Oh geez. The rhetoric.

The extra police were there for the breakaways.

The people marching for peace who didn't vandalize weren't the target of the police.

You know, you don't help your credibility by lying.

Ah Berkeley, and what vandalism would that be?

Well as screwed up as most of Berkley is, some one must have trashed the minds of the fools that live there.

there was no vandalism or property destruction at all. Every day, the shoppers litter all over Market Street and several people do graffiti, and there was probably less than average today, because there was no vandalism at all by the breakaway march. They kept pressing everyone against the Old Navy and fast food restaurant windows and no one did anything to them.

Yet the police ly arrested many times more people than they did when there was vandalism and property destruction.

What does this teach us about obeying the law?

WTF IS UP WITH THAT GUY GETTING HIT BY A CAR, AND THE PIGS IGNORING PEOPLES PLEAS FOR HELP. SERVE AND PROTECT MY ASS!!

Can anybody tell me why they have to make break away march?
Why don't they want be together in protest against war?
What the people who planned this break away wanted to achieve?.

No risk, no results.

We could have 2 million people march on washington and it wouldn't change foreign policy.

I think this "blue border" it´s a matter of fear! Administrations and companies have shaking knees. Cause they accumulate wealth and power.... but how long will it last?

actually there was vandalism, i saw at least two people spraypainting and tagging. i know its not much, but it does not help to just flat out deny it. i also saw a guy on market steal stuff from outside a store.

Its just a thought but what if people started chaining and locking corprate doors so that people could not go into the stores.....

i dont understand how separating the peace protest solved or would have solved anything? i dont support the actions of the police either, but why provoke them by holding an unpermitted rally when there was already one going on? why not have another one at a later time? vandalism or no vandalism, i wouldnt call that civil disobedience... i would call it a small group of people trying to gain attention for their own cause...so why not leave out the whole guise of peace and just say what you really want?

By "thugs with clubs" you mean "working class professionals who are probably overworked since their department has suffered budget cuts who have families, don't necessarily support the war, and feel just as bad being called a 'pig' as you and I," right?

Police are not working class. They are members of the 'managerial' class, whose purpose (along with labor beauracrats, lawyers, judges, and, ahem, managers) is to control and subjugate the working class.

Being working class is not just a matter of working, it's a matter of what you *do*. The ruling class produces nothing, the working class produces everything, and the management class (socially, politically, and physically) prevents us all from revolting.

Circuit

The class war rhetoric is so painful and outdated it absolutely hurts my hair to read it. What a fatuous, ill-informed, incoherent load of crap! And, is it just my imagination, or can't anyone in the anti-war movement spell or compose a simple, grammatically correct, properly punctuated English sentence? Or has the competent use of the English language become just another construct of the corporate oppressors who rule every aspect of our lives?

On the even of imperialist war which will result in the deaths of thousands of proletarians, only the ignorant and useful idiots will proclaim that class war is dead.

as far as "class struggle" being "outdated" i beg to differ. Bush more than anyone is doing nothing to hide class antagonisms with his policies. everything from tax cuts (43% going to the top 1% of wealth holders in the nation) to corperate bailouts, are blatantly class-antagonist. he knows who pays his bills, he knows his constituents, and his policies are working to disempower the already disenfranchised. from attacking women's rights to minorites' equality, the Bush administration makes class struggle more than the main focus here. this anti war movement is not about anti war(in general) it is anti-caplitalist, imperialist war. the class structure of this american political system depends on people like you swearing that this sort of rhetoric is "outdated" and hegemony like that is very much in favor of this administration, this war, this power structure, this economic system. class antagonism has never been more current, more relevant.

What's risk?
breaking away from main march is the risk?
If 2 million people marching in Washington doesn't change forign policy, how 1000 people marching separately can change it?