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PALESTINE SOLIDARITY CONTINGENT -- M15

by pscm15
We will be having another Palestine contingent marching in the rally this Saturday...Please join us...We are meeting at 9:30 am in front of the SF Public Library on the east side of the Civic Center..look for the Palestinian Flags....
PALESTINE SOLIDARITY CONTINGENT

SATURDAY MARCH 15 Anti-War Convergence:
March and Rally in San Francisco

Join the 10 million people marching worldwide this weekend. On Feb. 16, the largest co-ordinated set of anti-war demonstrations in the history of the world stunned the Bush administration and other pro-war leaders worldwide. We need to do it again.

Peace groups from at least 28 countries around the world are calling for another global day of protests on Saturday March 15. The people of the world are against this USA led invasion of Iraq. Every week, global and American pressure is growing against the war. We must continue to make our voices heard and our presence clearly seen. Join us for another day of historic anti-war rallies. Continue the public pressure against this war!

San Francisco
Saturday March 15, 2003
11 AM, Assemble and Rally at Civic Center

Afternoon: six block march to Jefferson Square Park (Turk & Gough) for additional rally.

? Sponsored by Bay Area United Against War, International Answer, Not In Our Name, United for Peace & Justice, Marin Peace & Justice Coalition, many others.

? For more info go to: http://www.internationalANSWER.org or http://www.bauaw.org or http://www.mpjc.org
Or call MPJC at: 721-2844


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by hmm...
that's why 20% of oakland school teachers are being laid off, right? that's why they're raising muni fares in a couple months (which will only affect working-class people significantly), right?

oh yeah, acting civil was how the americans fought off the british in 1976, right?

that's how the algerians kicked the french out, right?

that's how free speech was defended in berkeley in the '60s, right?

that's why bush is readying for war even though millions of people around the world have marched peacefully against it right?

i think its high time to be 'uncivil'.

(i'm not down with the islamism or nationalism of the paletinian movement, but acting 'civil'?! you've got to be fucking kidding me. or you've got to be a fucking idiot.)
by Arial Sharon is a war criminal!
Israel has defied over 70 UN Resolutions. Ariel Sharon will be tried for some of his war crimes like the massacre at Sabra and Shatila. Israel is a rogue state that so far only the Zionist-dominated US supports (in more ways than one) while the rest of the world condemns Israel's ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. Menachin Begin was a terrorist who blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946 (do a google-search for more details on this) killing 92 people, many of them civilians. Later he became a Prime Minister of Israel! How's that for fine leadership? Israeli terrorists in 1948 massacred thousands of Palestinians and chasing off 800,000 from their own homeland, and never allowed one to return even though it is their right according to UN Resolutions, international law and world opinion. For more info, http://www.cactus48.com and http://www.whatreallyhappened.com and http://www.ussliberty.com. The Palestinians are fighting for equal rights against Zionist Jewish supremacists. Any human being has the right to fight to defend their rights.
by Mr
Not to mention, that he is a fat piece of shit, and we all know that fat fucker is a war criminal, and the fucker has been/ or will be charged as a war criminal, and we stupid fucks support that shit hole(not willing that is) called Israel. Politiciansdont dare go againts jew in fear of losing theire jobs
by OhMy
One thing I've learned is that people who rant about "Zionist Jewish supremacists" almost always turn out to be anti-semites who single Israel out, lie and demonize zionism, and always manage to fail to mention the actual root causes in this world that lead for the need for the establishment of a jewish homeland in the first place.

Zionism was/is about a safe jewish homeland, not "jewish supremecy." All sane people know that.





by Also
Hitler used to rant about Jews having too much control of Germany before he decided to "fix the problem" Kind of like how so many of you rant insane crap about "zionists controlling the US." You're blaming "the zionists" for what SOME INDIVIDUAL HUMANS are doing. Zionists are just people who believe that jews have the right to their nation like every other group of people who formed a nation have.

As for ARiel Sharon:

Belgium is unfairly singling Ariel Sharon out for killing that a Lebanese Christian militia committed (all parties involved are aware it was the militia, not Sharon or Israel, who did the killing) of 800 or so palestinians back 20 years ago, while ignoring charges people have brought to Belgium's court that are MUCH worse, such as Saddam killing about 50,000 kurds. Belgium is unfairly singling Israel out. But this is the world's favorite hobby.

The massacre of some 800 Palestinians during the Lebanon War was planned and carried out by Lebanese Christian Phalangists. Israel's guilt lay in allowing the Phalangists, its allies, into the Sabra and Shatilla refugee camps: The Kahan Commission, which investigated the affair, said Israel should have foreseen the possibility of a massacre and therefore used Israeli rather than Lebanese troops to put down the armed resistance in the camps.

By any normal legal standard, failing to foresee and therefore prevent a massacre constitutes a much lower level of guilt than actually committing one. Yet Belgium has shown no interest whatsoever in prosecuting the Phalangists who were directly responsible: It is only targeting Israelis.

Numerous suits have so far been filed under Belgium's 1993 "universal competence"law, which authorizes Brussels to try crimes against humanity committed anywhere in the world. The current and former world leaders named in these suits include Yasser Arafat, Saddam Hussein, Fidel Castro and Augusto Pinochet all of whom are directly responsible for hundreds or thousands of deaths, and most of whom stand accused of crimes of far greater magnitude than Sabra and Shatilla such as Saddam's slaughter of more than 50,000 Kurds.

Yet all these suits are languishing in the Belgian prosecutor's office. The only suit the prosecution has seen fit to bring to court is the one against the Israeli defendants, whose responsibility for the crime at issue is at most indirect.

In normal prosecutorial practice, it is the worst offenders who are given top priority.

Sabra and Shatilla is also the only one of the above mentioned cases that has already been subject to legal proceedings. The massacre was investigated by a blue-ribbon judicial commission of inquiry headed by Yitzhak Kahan, then president of Israel's Supreme Court; another of its three members, Aharon Barak, is the current Supreme Court president.

This panel found that Sharon, who was defense minister at the time, bore ministerial but not criminal responsibility; it reached similar conclusions about the officers involved.
Since the ostensible purpose of the Belgian law is to prosecute cases that are being ignored by their own countries' legal systems, there is no legal rationale for giving priority to the one case that already has undergone a thorough judicial examination.

Furthermore, this decision is an unprecedented insult to Israel's legal system. All democratic countries traditionally give full faith and credit to each other's judicial systems: Belgium would never dream of trying a case that France's judiciary had already investigated and dismissed.
For Belgium to decide that Israel alone of all democratic nations is undeserving of this full faith and credit is completely unjustifiable on legal grounds.

When the lower court threw out the case against Sharon on the grounds that Belgium can only try crimes to which it has some connection (the one previous case heard under the 1993 law, which involved the Rwanda massacres, included 10 Belgian peacekeepers among the victims), four senators from different parties promptly introduced an amendment to the "universal competence"law stating that no such connection is necessary.

The amendment also explicitly stated that it would apply retroactively, meaning to the one case already in court. It was backed by Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt and passed by a large majority of parliament's upper house; the lower house is expected to approve it shortly.

The legislative and executive branches thus sent a clear message to their Supreme Court: If you uphold the lower court's ruling now, we will force you to reverse your own ruling later.

Belgium's parliament is certainly entitled to clarify legislation by amendment but under such circumstances, it requires enormous disingenuousness to claim, as Michel did, that this was a purely judicial decision in which the political system played no part.

Indeed, had Belgium not provided such strong grounds for the conclusion that Israel is its main target, the worldwide indifference to the dangerous precedent its high court set last week would be incomprehensible because if Brussels did use its 1993 law to try the entire world, it would wreak havoc on the international legal system.

Belgium, after all, is no different from any other country; if it can claim universal jurisdiction, so can anyone else. The result would be an international legal nightmare in which any country could claim jurisdiction over any serious crime, with no way to decide which jurisdictional claim takes precedence.

And that, perhaps, is the saddest commentary of all on Belgium's behavior: that its blatantly politicized use of the 1993 law is actually less frightening than the alternative.

As for the United Nations:

As Morris Abram, the late chairman of United Nations Watch, once observed, the UN has held only two special emergency sessions since 1982. No session was ever convened to condemn China's occupation of Tibet, Syria's occupation of Lebanon, the Indonesian occupation of East Timor, or the slaughters in Rwanda, the disappearances in Zaire, or any other global horror. Only Israel was so targeted - twice.


At the UN's urging, only one member state has ever been brought before the Geneva Convention. Not Cambodia for its genocide, Russia for its brutal repression of Chechnya or Sudan for its atrocities. Again, it was Israel.


The UN General Assembly, driven by a coalition of Arab, Muslim and other dictatorships, has passed more resolutions condemning Israel than any other nation on Earth. But it has never censured Israel's assailants for their three wars of aggression in 1948, 1967 and 1973.


The UN Commission on Human Rights (UNCHR) passes at least five resolutions a year condemning Israel (last year it was seven) and spends about 30% of its time solely on the Jewish state. In contrast, as Beichman notes, each of the following countries or regions has been the subject of one resolution - Iraq, Iran, Russia/Chechnya, Afghanistan, Burundi, Congo, Cuba, Myanmar, Sierra Leone, Southeast Europe and Sudan. Manuel Prutschi of the Canadian Jewish Congress notes this double standard is compounded by the fact the UNCHR devotes one agenda item to focusing solely on Israel. All other nations are lumped together under a separate item.


Despite this, Israel, the only Mideast democracy, is not allowed to join the UNCHR, or the Security Council, while many of the world's worst dictatorships - Syria, Libya, Sudan, Saudi Arabia - can and do. As David Goldberg of the Canada-Israel Committee explains, membership on major UN bodies is conditional upon belonging to one of the UN's five regional groups. Israel is the only UN member excluded from this system because it has been prevented from joining its regional group - Asia - by an ongoing Arab boycott. Thus, it cannot even get a delegate appointed to the 53-nation UNCHR to defend itself from unfair attacks. Due to efforts by the U.S. and, to its credit, Canada, Israel now has partial membership in the "Western European and Others Group."


Israel, Beichman notes, is the only country to which the UNCHR assigns a special "rapporteur" to investigate human rights "violations." In other nations, rapporteurs investigate "situations." The reports by Israel's rapporteur are always one-sided because his mandate prohibits investigating Palestinian actions in addition to Israel's, even if they occur in the same area. The Israeli rapporteur's mandate is the only one not periodically reviewed by the UNCHR.


Each year on Nov. 29, the UN holds a United Nations Day of International Solidarity with the Palestinian People. The day is always a vicious diatribe against Israel. There is no UN Day of International Solidarity With the Victims of Palestinian Terrorism. No other "people" on Earth, no matter how brutally oppressed, receive a similar day of UN solidarity.


While the anti-Semitic ravings aimed at Jews at the infamous UN conference ostensibly against racism held in Durban, South Africa in 2001 are well-known, Israel is also the only UN state to have been subjected to two blood libels. In 1991, the Syrian delegate to the UNCHR accused Israel of murdering Christian children to use their blood to make matzo, an ancient anti-Semitic canard. In 1997, the Palestinian delegate accused Israel of injecting 300 Palestinian children with HIV-infected blood. Neither of these lies was immediately denounced by the UN. From 1975-91, in what even UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan has called a "low point" in its history, a General Assembly resolution equating Zionism with racism stayed on the books until it was finally repealed due to a campaign by the U.S. By contrast, in 1997, the mere mention of an allegedly blasphemous reference to Islam by a UN expert from an academic source, was instantly rebuffed by the UNCHR and deleted from the record.

No fair-minded person argues Israel should be above scrutiny by the UN. No fair-minded person dismisses the suffering of the Palestinians in the Disputed Territories and the human rights abuses committed by Israel, albeit in the context of responding to the constant threat of terrorism.

But to pretend, as the UN does, year after year, that Israel is the world's worst human rights violator, is not only sheer nonsense, it is anti-Semitism. And it is the UN's stock in trade.
by Also
The fact that after Israel formed, every single arab country immediately took their anger over israel out on their own jewish citizens, simply because they were the same religion as people forming israel, is pretty much proof that the arab world wasn't safe for jews and woudl have turned on them eventually anyway.

Further proof is now the arab media to this day mixes in jew-hatred with israel-hatred. They don't just criticize politics, they mix in "jewish world domination conspricacy" crap, they mix on "how jews are" and "what the jews tend to do" and stuff that would make hitler proud. Just a month ago the main newspaper in Pakistan printed an article from David Duke about how jews go around ruining everything while trying to take over the world. It's really sick stuff.

It'll be awsome when the world isn't filled with losers who need to scapegoat entire groups of people for their own lameness.

by Also
No one says "two wrongs make a right."

But if person Z comes at person X with a knife and tries to stab him, and person X shoots him, both of those things are "wrong," but I'll side with person X.

Whereas all you would do is yell "person X shoots people who don't even have guns!" while pretending that person Z wasn't doing anything wrong.

That's the problem. Demonizing every aspect of Israel, from 50 years ago to today, while pretending that Israel's enemies were just in the background and not really doing much of anything.
by Also
If you want the problem today to end, Palestinians need "normal, sane" leaders, not Arafat and not someone hand-picked by Arafat, they need to curb Hamas and get Hamas to stop attacking Israel (or else Israel has to keep handling it), they need to call off their intifada, which has done nothing but (1) get ariel sharon elected once and then again, (2) caused israel to go from "occupying" 5% or less of palestinian towns to occupying a lot more while trying to curb the attacks, (3) result in israel having to be 10 times more aggressive than they were.

The intifada is the worst decision anyone has made in a long time.

But if you look at the 50 year history of the palestinians, the history of the PLO and hamas and the PA, and notice how even Jordan and Lebanon and Egypt and Kuwait can't stand the palestinians and had battles with the PLO when the PLO existed, you'd see that making bright decisions aren't what they're all about. Arafat lied to his people and said israel was planning on attacking mosques and innocent people, and rallied support for the intifada around that. I can't imagine a worse leadership than arafat has provided for 50 years now.
by Also
Nessie has just revealed itself to be a liar. Insane distortions of facts has just occured.

You just said "European Jews came at native Palestinians with an army, slaughtered them wholesale and stole their land and water."

That's a lie, and you know it.

European Jews and Middle East Jews bought land and immigrated into palestine/israel for decades in a row, building up their communities. No one was being "slaughtered" and no land was being stolen.

No arabs were refugees from israel until after arab nations declared war on israel in 1948. Arabs who stayed in israel were given citizenship, and are citizens to this day. Unlike jews who got their citizenships taken away in arab countries.

You, nessie, are distorting history in a sick way. I'm sorry you felt the need to do that.
by Also
Ok, this has gotten ugly.

Israel's leaders helped arafat form the PA, tried to support them, urged them to arrest terrorists, made them a land-for-peace offer, and Israel received terrorism and an "intiafada" in response. AFTER the intifada began, Israel saw this and responded by voting ariel sharon into office, to deal with their nutcase neighbors.

By the way, I like how you threw "bloodthursty" in there.

by Also
Just a few years ago, Israel was run by leftists, and Israel was offering to remove the settlements, give palestinians 100% control of gaza, and 98% control of the west bank.

Palestinians responsed by urging their children to strap bombs to themsleves and run into jewish discos to blow up jewish teenagers.

Arafat has run the palestinians all along, and I must say, there probably isn't a worse 40 year leadership than he has provided. He's a corrupt former terrorist who is now a washed up bitter old man who still dreams of running all of israel/palestine, and now he can't stop hamas even if he wanted to, which hamas say he doesn't.

Israel has had left-leaders and right-leaders, israel has made settlements and israel has offered to remove the settlements, israel has occupied land and israel has offered to unoccupy land, israel has tried not responding to attacks, and israel has tried responding to attacks, and the only constant is that arafat/PLO/PA have run the palestinians for 40 years and been a complete ass. And now Hamas and other lunatic groups are in the picture, making it clear to israel that there will be no peace. So, Israel has to smack hamas down, and perhaps make another land for peace offer in the future AFTER (1) palstinians call off their idiotic intifada, (2) hamas are dead or weak or gone, (3) a reasponsible leadership represents the palestinians

by Also
Yes, agreed.

But immigration limitations, and the actual cost of living in various parts of the world, plus various other factors (like zionism), helped dictate where Jews went when they left/fled/(whatever) their countries.


by Mr
All you pro Israeli morons, should go there, or atleast read the real history of that land, then maybe if your brain is not so cloudy, then you will realize that it does not belong to the jew's, it never has nor will it ever be theire land, hell, Israel has violated so many UN resolutions that the Israelis should have blown back into the stone age 20 years ago, if you go by American standards(since Bush is using it for going to war). So before you flap your lips in the wind, and talk about shit you don't know, get the facts, it's out there for all to read, and please don't bore me with, they are evil and all that shit, just ask your self What would you do if some homeless guy came along and took your home then kicked you out.....
by Radian
If you go just don't ride the bus, eat pizza, or try to get hooked up at a club. Some nice man may explode himself all over you. To fight the evil zionists the pali's target civillian non combatants. I guess it gets better press than blowing up millitary targets..
by Well If I
If I was a weak minded person that been feed crap by some lame Iman, I would strap explosives around my waste. For a positive influence on world opinon I would walk into a pizza shop where mothers and their babys are have lunch, well you know the rest of the story.
American woman peace activist killed by IDF
bulldozer in Gaza

By Arnon Regular, Haaretz Correspondent, and Agencies




An American woman peace protester was killed Sunday by an IDF bulldozer, which ran her over during the demolition of a house at the Rafah refugee camp in the southern Gaza Strip.

Another activist was wounded in the incident.

Rachel Corey, 23, from Olympia, Washington, was killed when she ran in front of the bulldozer to try to prevent it from destroying a house, doctors in Gaza said.

"Corey was killed in the al-Salam neighbourhood when an
Israeli bulldozer covered her with sand as she stood in front of a bulldozer," said Dr Ali Musa, a doctor from the al-Najar hospital in the southern Gaza Strip.

He said she died from skull and chest fractures.

The IDF said it was checking the report.

Greg Schnabel, 28, from Chicago, said the protesters were in the house of Dr. Samir Masri.

"Rachel was alone in front of the house as we were trying to get them to stop," he said. "She waved for bulldozer to stop and waved. She fell down and the bulldozer kept going. We yelled 'stop, stop,' and the bulldozer didn't stop at all. It had completely run over her and then it reversed and ran back over her."

Since the start of the Intifada, groups of international protesters have gathered in several locations in territories, setting themselves up as "human shields" to try to stop IDF operations.

Corey was the first member of the groups, called "International Solidarity Movement," to be killed in the conflict. Schnabel said Corey was a student at Evergreen College and was to graduate this year.

He said there were eight protesters at the site, four from the United States and four from Great Britain. "We stay with families whose house is to be demolished," he told the Associated Press by telephone from Rafah after the incident.
by X
I say let the fuckers pay for theire own shit like every body else in the world, and why the hell do I have to support that no good for nothing welfare state with my tax money. Israel has the same population as my state, but has a budget 10 times higher, all tax money from the US, funny how Israel called Belgium an insignificant country because they said Ariel Sharon can be charged with war crimes, but atleast Belgium has an economy that is self sufficient unlike that welfare state called Israel
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