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Earlier AP & Reuters Stories say Bin Laden Denounces Saddam - now called 'mistake'
by repost
Tuesday Feb 11th, 2003 4:15 PM
the links to these stories are on the site. This is crazy . . . this situation is falling apart before our eyes. Oh, and the translations are also not for the public to hear. Just like everything else - national security.
Bin Laden Denounces Saddam
February 11, 2003

MSNBC television report this afternoon that their translation of the latest Osama bin Laden tape being read on Al-Jazeera television contains an appeal to the Iraqi people to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

The online story now claims that this was a mistake, that Osama only denounced Saddam as an 'infidel." The original story contained this sentence in the second paragraph:

At the same time, the message also called on Iraqis to rise up and oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, who is a secular leader.

This AP story mentions that "he denounced Saddam's secular, socialist al-Baath party as 'infidels.'"

This Reuters story says that bin Laden tells Muslims not to support "the ignorant governments that rule all Arab states, including Iraq," and that he urges support for the Iraqi people rather than the Iraqi goverment.

It appears that, for some reason, the media has made a decision to bury this part of the message.

No English news outlet has yet made a translation available.

by repost
Tuesday Feb 11th, 2003 5:00 PM
"To whom it may concern:

While following the breaking Osama Bin Laden tape story, I noticed your website reporting that, among other things, the tape recorded Bin Laden calling for the Iraqi people to *overthrow* Saddam Hussein. The URL for the original story is

http://www.msnbc.com/news/842500.asp?0cv=CA01#BODY

When I first visited, the story contained the following passage:

"At the same time, the message also called on Iraqis to rise up and oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, who is a secular leader."

Now, that sentence is no longer there.

Anyone with any training in journalism MUST be aware that deleting that sentence significantly changes the import of this story. The only possible conclusion to which any reader could come would be that you are deliberately concealing any information revealed on the tape that would complicate or frustrate Bush's efforts to establish a partnership between Osama Bin Ladin and Saddam Hussein.

You will be happy to know that enough people follow MSNBC's coverage of the Iraq crisis that there are many readers who have seen and remember the original version. If you are at all interested in preserving your credibility as a news source, or indeed in serving truth and the public interest, you will restore the FULL text of your initial report."

by Enough already
Tuesday Feb 11th, 2003 5:57 PM
Did y'all notice the MSNBC translator's name? "Jacob".

Just "Jacob".
by Dennis
(dennis [at] witty.com) Tuesday Feb 11th, 2003 7:16 PM
Anyone without even a shred of "training in journalism MUST be aware that deleting that sentence significantly changes the import of this story."
If your news station made a Mistake, please openly in the same news time tomorrow to let people know that on TV - you made mistake like this.

Information resources:
“An initial, extemporaneous translation mistakenly characterized the speaker’s comments about Saddam”

"Earlier AP & Reuters Stories say Bin Laden Denounces Saddam - now called 'mistake'
by repost Tuesday February 11, 2003 at 04:15 PM"
by Jacob
Tuesday Feb 11th, 2003 10:38 PM
Why don't you put the full name there?
I think the responsibility is important.
I like to read and watch your news, I hope you can keep reports truthfully.
Sincerely,

Jane Mair
by mike franklin
(MFranklin [at] tlie.org) Wednesday Feb 12th, 2003 7:13 AM
Further evidence that "The Monkey has gotten a whole of the Keys"